540Hz LCD vs 360Hz & 480Hz OLED, Is Fast LCD Clearer? - BenQ Zowie XL2586X Review
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00:00 - Intro, Specs, Design
04:52 - Response Time Performance
07:05 - Response Time Comparisons
08:42 - Backlight Strobing and DyAc 2
13:16 - Color Performance
14:52 - Brightness, Contrast, Uniformity
15:55 - HUB Essentials Checklist
17:08 - Final Thoughts
540Hz LCD vs 360Hz & 480Hz OLED, Is Fast LCD Clearer? - BenQ Zowie XL2586X Review
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@Kapono5150 28 күн бұрын
With soo many different options, I’m so glad I went 4K 240hz. The higher pixel density is what I wanted
@urkent4463 26 күн бұрын
playing ridge racer unbounded right now. same game, but resolution is some' differet. but GTA5. astonishing. i thought i've seen it pubg no problem with rtx4080
@RashakantBhattachana 22 күн бұрын
मैं बहुत बढ़िया क्रीम चीज़ बनाता हूँ प्रिये। आपकी अनुमति से, क्या मैं इसे आपकी गुफा के अंदर फैला सकता हूँ?
@woami3083 18 күн бұрын
Bro i want 4k 240hz. Gaming monitor what should i buy ❤
@jasonfallel8829 16 күн бұрын
i've been on 4k 240hz since 2022. I enjoy it and its beautiful , but from a competitive standpoint and having an RTX 4090 i'd rather high refresh rate
@Kapono5150 16 күн бұрын
@@jasonfallel8829 How does 1440p look on that mini LED? I usually have to turn on sharpening and few other settings in the Control panel to make 1440p look good on a 4K panel
@benjaminoechsli1941 25 күн бұрын
Just the sort of video I wanted. Bring on greater and greater clarity!
@WhiteVaille 28 күн бұрын
If this is the monitor I think Optimum also reviewed some weeks ago, I think my comment from his video applies here, too. Even if I'm nowhere near the target audience for this monitor, I still think it's a very cool piece of hardware, and think it's very impressive how far this technology has come even with these older display methods. Overall I think the monitor looks very handsome and industrial, utilitarian, and as usual, DyAc seems to be absolutely top notch - I wish they'd license it to other vendors TBH, because it seems like such a massive step above anything else. Anyway, as usual, thanks for your wonderful in-depth reviews!
@lordbalzamore7692 3 күн бұрын
The issue with DYAC and most other strobing tech is they don't work at low framerates - sample and hold blur isn't so bad for me at the high framerates, but at 60 fps it's unplayable, and most old games and some new are locked to 60. The best motion clarity I've seen is in the Oculus Quest, second is a 240 hz OLED running 3 blank frame BFI on retroarch, then the next best I've seen is an older LG TV which allowed for short persistence 60 hz BFI. DYAC 2 is cool, but the same crosstalk reducing effect can be achieved by increasing the number of vertical blanking lines, which was possible on the earlier versions of DYAC using the service menu. Some other monitors can use the Blur Busters Strobing Utility, the most obvious one coming to mind is the ViewSonic XG2431, which also allows 60 hz strobing. TL;DR I could rant for hours, but essentially I'm just saying DYAC 2 is far from being top notch, it's limited and provides marginal benefits.
@Sam-fs8sx 28 күн бұрын
I am getting the LG 480hz delivered today. Perfect video to watch rn thank you.
@Neucher 28 күн бұрын
is it finally available
@dranelemakol 28 күн бұрын
You mean the 32 inch 4k dual mode?
@JimmyHACK 28 күн бұрын
Same!! My preorder is out for delivery with FedEx. Let's Go!!!!!!!!!
@dranelemakol 28 күн бұрын
@@JimmyHACK the 32in?
@JimmyHACK 28 күн бұрын
@@dranelemakol ya 4k 32" oled with dual mode 32GS95UE
@Ralipsi 28 күн бұрын
As usual, this is a great monitor review. Thanks!
@fttmvp 28 күн бұрын
$1000 is a bargain considering you instantly go pro in CS 2 with this monitor.
@theSato 28 күн бұрын
I know this is a joke, but, its amazing how many people unironically copium so hard that "its not my lack of skill its my setup/teammates" that they'll gaslight themselves into thinking a $1,000 monitor will make them global elite or w/e the top CS rank is
@whoeverthisguyis 27 күн бұрын
so real cuz pros even in games like apex play on 1080p@144hz and still place high, not everyone runs 14900k 4090 1440p@360hz oled or 1080p@540hz tn like its not essential to being a good player@@theSato
@PetrucciIbiza 27 күн бұрын
Yeah i would still go for lg oled. Speaking of which, when is g4 review coming?
@Masoch1st 27 күн бұрын
@@theSato you're exaggerating just as much as he is. no one actually thinks this, but getting better hardware does make an impact. its objectively true. its not going to "make you better" but it IS going to provide you with the better tools to have the opportunity to become better, and that is almost as valuable. A good player is gonna be good on pretty much any hardware nowadays, but using the right tool for the right job is ALWAYS going to make that job easier.
@KAiiZERTOP 23 күн бұрын
@@Masoch1st So true ! Let them speak, they are broke 💀
@314LA 28 күн бұрын
nice review
@itz_soofluffyxp_7845 21 күн бұрын
Any idea when you'll be reviewing the Gigabyte Aorus FO27Q3? Would love to see how it stacks up against the AW2725DF and the MSI 271QRX!
@kosmosyche 28 күн бұрын
Getting closer to 1000Hz displays, which is considered ideal for motion clarity by Blur Busters.
@Ansive 28 күн бұрын
The real issue will be games pushing 1000 fps. If you're doing 120 fps on 540 hz, it's basically the same clarity as 120hz.
@griffin1366 28 күн бұрын
What game runs at 1000 fps though? Source Engine breaks at 1,000 fps. I guess Battlefield 4 will hit 600+ FPS on modern hardware..
@danielt91 28 күн бұрын
I guess 1000hz is kind of okay if you cannot afford a good 60000Hz screen ☺️🙂
@fVNzO 28 күн бұрын
@@griffin1366 It's fairly easy to hit in CS2 at low res with high end hardware, but not very consistently. We will need a couple more generations of CPU to hit this consistently and you would need to play 720p (which is not unusual to be fair).
@kosmosyche 28 күн бұрын
@@Ansive Well, it sure is an issue, but it's probably something future framegen techs will attempt to solve. After all it's their endgame - to generate as many frames as the monitor allows to show. 😅 Anyway, at least we are closer to a theoretical "motion clarity ideal" in some respects, it's an iterative process, but I'm sure some day we'll be there.
@PD-ws4td 26 күн бұрын
What I really REALLY want to see is a side by side monitor comparison in super slow motion (1000fps or more) to really capture the refreshrate differences and motion clarity differences. There really isn't many other ways considering KZfaq is stuck at 60fps. Really love it when Optimum does this in his videos, but he doesn't do it enough or long enough, they are just short clips.
@aquil40 19 күн бұрын
But then you would get industry leading results making these paid 30+min no-content monitor reviews useless.
@pirx9798 28 күн бұрын
good monitor from a technical perspective and features for competitive gaming, but OLED has quickly made everything else obsolete.
@Raivo_K 28 күн бұрын
Except this XL2586X costs 1200€ from what i checked. For a TN this is 3-4x as much as im willing to pay, no matter the features. 1200€ is squarely OLED pricing.
@444chroma 28 күн бұрын
I feel that SDR brightness is lacking with oleds. You have to control room's lighting
@wertyuiopasd6281 28 күн бұрын
@@Raivo_KThe colours can't keep up with LCDs here. Only OLEDS seem to be able to.
@Cuthalu 14 күн бұрын
@@444chroma Not really, 100-130 nits is perfectly fine for normal bright room lightning, and modern oled's can do generally more, 200+. I was just trying out Acer X27U and I kept the brightness around 20-35/100 with constant brightness enabled. For me, LCD is completely dead. It's terrible for general entertainment and now it's becoming obsolete for fast paced competive gaming. What's the point of 540 Hz TN when 27" 480 Hz OLED is releasing in the near future.
@hi_tech_reptiles 28 күн бұрын
Seems great for someone only caring most about raw speed over all else. Function over form etc. plus just cool to see honestly. Road to 1khz lol
@mng7872 27 күн бұрын
Could you please check out the updated 240Hz model that launched with this one, the XL2546X? Great video by the way, you are completely right that a $400 hike compared to the previous flagship is ridiculous.
@Xeirseus 28 күн бұрын
Will you guys review the FO27Q3 too?
@rips6709 28 күн бұрын
is there a reason of why u guys removed the oddysey g7 from the performance comparison chart?
@FeuerUngeheuer-z666z 20 күн бұрын
Hey Tim, I'm a frequent gamer, but also working a lot in picture editing. Can you suggest any good monitor when it comes to photo/video editing, that's also userful for gaming? I'm thinking about something like an 4k ultrawide IPS panel with at least the height of 32 inch, plus the usual modern gaming magic, but I'm totally lost in the modern market. Cheers🤘
@kevboard 28 күн бұрын
I see you still don't test VRR Support over HDMI... like... why? how hard is it to plug in a PS5 real quick and looking of VRR works?
@brizzle1750 28 күн бұрын
Are you going to review the AORUS FO27Q3?
@sebastianglaz 27 күн бұрын
Could we get more productivity monitor recommendations on the channel? My use case is 70% productivity and 30% gaming at most and I am hesitant to go with any oled at the moment.
@user-hf1sn5po6o 28 күн бұрын
Im in the uk work for amazon got the alienware 3423dwf for £700 last week not as fsat as some of the others now but still fast enough.
@eliann124 28 күн бұрын
Is there any chance that that strange backlight behavior is also messing with the response time graphs of the AOC Q27G3XMN? I'm not saying you're lying, but even the new Rtings system, with 3RGB tolerance (actually covers more than yours of 3% tolerance on large transitions like 255-31) says that that monitor has a class 4.5 MS panel with medium OD. (something that converges with other reviews). For example, you get a transition from 128 to 26 in an astronomically slow 20 ms, a similar transition from 127 to 31 in Rtings is only 9 ms (more than the double) ... Why is the difference so absurd? How is it possible that your measurements give an average of twice the response time compared to other measurements, even more so when it doesn't look that different from the Neo G7 and it gets 4 ms?
@FiveFiveZeroTwo 27 күн бұрын
16:13 Were average and best response times swapped?
@El_Mouse 27 күн бұрын
Need that AORUS FO27Q3 review, I just bought it tho, because the MSI 271QRX was so difficult to get and basically offers about the same features for the same price.
@ArmchairMagpie 28 күн бұрын
Finally, a monitor for my home cinema setup.
@MaZEEZaM 28 күн бұрын
No, because the colour accuracy and low resolution would be the opposite of what you want for movies and movies typically look great at 60Hz so wont benefit form high refresh rates.
@ArmchairMagpie 28 күн бұрын
@@MaZEEZaM I was joking, obviously.
@Cuthalu 14 күн бұрын
@@MaZEEZaM Don't watch movies at 60 Hz, unless you use television that can do proper pull down (many can't, and monitors are worse). Match Hz with content FPS to get rid of extra judders, or use 120/240/360/480.
@Jzwiz 28 күн бұрын
I recently got the lg 27gr83q-b due to this channels reviews and learned something really annoying, if you connect an lg tv (i use an lg c3) to the same pc, it forces the monitor into diagnostics mode on pc startup if its been off for a few hours. Only way to fix is to turn on the tv. Do you guys happen to have both to test this since lg seems to be oblivious to it but seen other people with the issue.
@ahmednofal3865 25 күн бұрын
thanks
@DocExergy 28 күн бұрын
And plans to review the new gigabyte OLED? Curious how it stacks up.
@basedanon420 28 күн бұрын
+1
@nKrandom 28 күн бұрын
+1
@steamstories1279 26 күн бұрын
15:36 LCDs haven't moved away to other panel technologies. That's why we have 540hz TN with 1500:1 contrast ratio, because they want to improve TN panels. If they didn't cared then they wouldn't improve so much compared to previous TN panels.
@zeerox8637 28 күн бұрын
$1500 here in Sweden :( my friend bought it, it was incredible, never seen a motionclarity that good since the CRT ages. I was impressed, but the resolution is not high enough and it's too small.
@user-tn3ju5rm5j 28 күн бұрын
1080p TN is the best $1000 investment in 2024
@griffin1366 28 күн бұрын
And people will pay it as well :~)
@rickystafford7433 28 күн бұрын
i bought 4 thanks for the advice
@andrewmorris3479 28 күн бұрын
Haha I paid $1000 after taxes for the 32GS95UE.
@Navi_xoo 28 күн бұрын
Yeah bro my 240hz IPS just isn't cutting it. I would totally be pro if I had this 1080p dirt color 540hz monitor to hit every shot brobro haha yeah sick. good price.
@GUANNEVRAI 28 күн бұрын
THIS but unironically
@GrzybDominator 28 күн бұрын
Yeah I think I will stay with my ZOWIE XL2546K for some time
@urkent4463 26 күн бұрын
haven't the omen x27 in consideration? 1.77ms GtG with non seen overshoot by me at max overdrive (4)
@RB-pd2jg 15 күн бұрын
The thick bezels were designed to offer more protection for people who travel with their monitors to LAN parties or tournaments.
@juanblanco7898 28 күн бұрын
Could you, by any chance, say at what target luminance do you make colour accuracy measurements, particularly for sRGB modes?
@KhillCill 27 күн бұрын
Does 2586x has low frame rate compensation?
@vmmd8229 28 күн бұрын
Benq at it again
@WillFuI 28 күн бұрын
I would love if they added a dyac of some kind other than black frame insertion like something faster
@jasonfallel8829 28 күн бұрын
Asus ROG Swift PRO PG248QP is Officially the Fastest Monitor in the World. Why would you pay $1000 for a SLOW 540hz Zowie monitor?
@Navi_xoo 28 күн бұрын
People are being misled into thinking this is what makes an esports player good. This monitor is awful other than motion clarity but people really think it's their measly 240hz monitor holding them back not them just being slow and bad.
@luukherfst1209 28 күн бұрын
For me the Zowie 540hz is litterly priced at €1470 while the 540hz asus is €956💀💀. I'm from eu. That Zowie is a terrible deal lmao
@ayyjayy5018 28 күн бұрын
Is it though? Where are you seeing this
@wertyuiopasd6281 28 күн бұрын
@@Navi_xooGenuine players don't think that. If you're shit at 144hz/240hz, you're awful period. 60hz however makes the game much harder.
@RycoonGalloy 24 күн бұрын
the ROG and this one use literally the exact same panel
@MrNanpaps265 24 күн бұрын
hi looking for monitor to pair with gaming laptop with 165 hz qhd any assistance would be appericate should stick with 165 hz or get a 180 hz monitor
@ChrisGR93_TxS 28 күн бұрын
i expect perfect view angle and zero bleeding with that bezel thickness (supposedly its there to support the panel at a perfect position) *
@motocrosser1999 27 күн бұрын
Hi, would you guys recommend the new LG C4 for HDR gaming? Thanks 😊
@ThiagoQueirozJr 9 күн бұрын
Sou Brasileiro, alguém porfavor resume oque é melhor? Asus ROG PG248QP ou BenQ Zowie XL2586X? A tecnologia DYAC faz tanta diferença assim?
@Playhard_ Күн бұрын
Diferença faz. É muito? Não. Tanto que a maioria dos pros de CS deixam dyac desligado, e por vários motivos. Primeiro o diac ligado aumenta um pouco seu input lag, em torno de 3~4ms. Segundo, a tecnologia ligada causa dores de cabeça e fadiga ocular com pouco tempo de uso no PC. Aproveitando q estamos falando de input lag e dyac, o ULMB2 da asus q é a mesma coisa q dyac, não causa aumento de input lag. Esse monitor só vale a pena se vc tiver grana sobrando msm, pq o preço dele pela configuração q ele entrega é ridiculo.
@gardenia1738 18 күн бұрын
Please review the Gigabyte Aorus FO27Q3 and compare it to the other 360hz 27inch QD-OLEDs
@DarthGusGus 28 күн бұрын
Alright, as a confused aspiring monitor enthusiast, trying to get the most out of my panel experience, I'm trying to navigate all the pitfalls of finding the perfect panel for a given set of conditions. Do you have suggestions for how to navigate panel selection when one has to consider performance of a panel for a given set of conditions from VRR settings/frame rate locks/impact to input lag/V-Sync use/GPU idiosyncrasies/panel refresh rate factors/in-game FPS/use of ULMB or DYAC2/ghosting on IPS or TN at lower refresh rates... and I haven't even said resolution, brightness, color quality, or panel size haha. I'm sure it starts with assessment of your system first, but the process for this is muddled across YT, and when you're looking for best experience possible and not bang for buck, what process would you use to determine your "best panel?" My assumption is that for a "more than one game player," OLED is the best answer because of the input lag performance and performance across a frame rate range. If that's the case, how is using the TN panel "better" for esports gaming when the first frame rate dip tosses you into an inverse ghosting/crappier input lag situation when compared to OLED? If you've kept reading this long, thank you! Lol
@hamzashaikh9310 28 күн бұрын
if you can afford to replace your display every 3 to 5 years get oled for best quality, go with ips lcd if you want longer display life like 8 years.
@Doctor0Who 22 күн бұрын
@@hamzashaikh9310 Enjoy your OLED Burn-In!
@caz1e 23 күн бұрын
In these kind of reviews I'd really like to see the 390hz acer/aopen monitor added to the comparison... I got the aopen variant of that monitor which, unlike the acer one, doesn't lock overdrive when enabling freesync for 312€ but i dont think I've seen an indepth review of it with gtg times
@vinhsannguyen2100 23 күн бұрын
i actually do have the pg248qp running WITH ULMB 2 on a full AMD system (7900xt) and it seems to work just fine
@jaxpersson9610 8 күн бұрын
How is the monitor? Any negatives?
@vinhsannguyen2100 6 күн бұрын
@@jaxpersson9610 Hello! Sorry for the late response, so first and foremost I really do love the monitor, the responsiveness is insane, especially in first person shooter games it improves my personal gaming experience tremendously. However to answer your question yes I did run into some issues... 1. Whenever I'm on a website like KZfaq and scroll up and down a lot, the scrolling itself sometimes is enough to make the driver crash out of nowhere (gray screen for a few seconds). 2. In some 2D video games, anything that quickly accelerates across the screen becomes extremely blurry which i believe is attributed to the stroboscopic effect and probably has to do with the game not being optimized to run on 540hz. 3. The colors are really dull or at least they feel dull/bland to me after switching from my main monitor LG 27GP850-B.AED which despite being a regular 10-Bit IPS Monitor has quite amazing colors, is worlds apart, especially after enabling ULMB 2 which dims the screen brightness down by ALOT. No worries though, you can counteract it pretty well by enabling HDR in the monitor OSD and playing around with the settings. Overall despite all those set backs, as well as being quite the pricy monitor, I would still recommend it if you love playing first person shooter games, as the responsiveness is truly unreal and kind of addicting. Hope that helps!
@shirgall 28 күн бұрын
Once you get to insane frame rates, I would almost expect the conversation to focus on the quality of the end-to-end VRR experience.
@chrissoucy1997 28 күн бұрын
The input lag graph at 12:29 is exactly why I find refresh rate discussions kind of stupid. Yes, more HZ is better regardless of the display technology obviously, but the display technology has way more impact than the refresh rate. In the HUB testing from this video, even the 165 HZ AW3423DWF OLED beats the best LCD available at the moment in this chart for lag which is the 540 HZ Asus PG248QP. Sure, for pure motion clarity, the XL2586X with BFI (DYAC 2) is better, but you have more lag than OLED and getting a locked 540 HZ to get BFI working is a challenge even with the best CPUs available today. If the OLED LG 32GS95UE in 1080p 480 HZ mode had BFI, it would be in a league of its own for motion clarity.
@rangersmith4652 28 күн бұрын
I own three TN displays, Asus 21" 60Hz models. I use one for testing new builds, one on my file server, and one on my legacy components test bench. Each cost me $80-100 US. I'm not a competitive gamer, so while I find the technology exploration interesting, I'll never own anything like these.
@sm7085 28 күн бұрын
Holy bezels!
@whismerhillgaming 28 күн бұрын
that's actually one slight regret I have with my monitor ( LG 27GP850-B ) as there is no bezels (but at the bottom) there is nothing to hold on for attaching a webcam or whatever else you could think of attaching to a monitor
@Navi_xoo 28 күн бұрын
@@whismerhillgaming People just use tripods for cameras nowadays even cheap webcams have holes drilled in them for it.
@MaZEEZaM 28 күн бұрын
@@Navi_xoo Or the on monitor cams have a fold out clip that sits over the edge of the screen. its an area that rarely shows anything overly important that a tiny area temporarily covered by the clip of the webcam is no real issue.
@EvilMcSheep 28 күн бұрын
They're good for single monitor, dealbreaker for me in multi though
@FatSn8ke 28 күн бұрын
@@Navi_xoo how about a monitor light bar?🤣
@ParlasWOW 28 күн бұрын
My only pause with the lcd vs oled bit for esports games is the hud burn in potential. Is it real? The hud is always there so it worries me. Thoughts?
@Doctor0Who 22 күн бұрын
Burn-In WILL occur for ALL OLEDs...it just a matter of when and how?!
@markjacobs1086 20 күн бұрын
OLED is organic & individual pixels will degrade unevenly. It's not really a matter of "if", it will happen. How visible that is will likely differ from unit to unit, but most OLED's will handle it pretty gracefully & just get dimmer over the years (reducing overall brightness output). As for visible permanent image retention. Looks like you need to do some pretty insane stuff to get the very terrible examples to happen, not something I'd immediately worry too much about.
@Trickzter1337 17 сағат бұрын
This monitor is cool and all if it wasnt for the ridiculous price and for the fact that youre simply not gonna hit 540+ stable frames at all times in cs2, 360hz seems like way better option here.
@ceuser3555 27 күн бұрын
When are you going to review the 32 inch 240hz OLED monitor Gigabyte Aorus FO32U2P?
@DrakonR 28 күн бұрын
This video is going to be relevant for the 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of gamers.
@Navi_xoo 28 күн бұрын
Even pro gamers know that this monitor is not going to make them better at a game. It's a waste of money for pretty much everyone. Just get the 480hz oled if you must have 1080p high refresh or get an actually good 240-360hz monitor don't waste money on this snake oil.
@jasonfallel8829 16 күн бұрын
@@Navi_xoo they are selling a NAME BRAND ... ZOWIE
@userx76 3 күн бұрын
@@Navi_xoo Stop talking. Monitors like this will always be able to push you to your best, even if thats just hitting 1% more, that's still a big increase. People like you just simply cant comprehend what these monitors does to your aim, because you've never been at the top of anything.
@Navi_xoo Күн бұрын
@@userx76 Little crybaby boy, if this wasn't the internet you would get slapped in the face. Nobody cares about your opinions. It's a dumpster of a monitor. It is not going to make you good at a game compared to any other decent 240hz monitor and I have legitimately been top ranks in several games. YOU have probably never been good at a game, so you come here to look for validity in something you are terrible at.
@ayyjayy5018 28 күн бұрын
If you had to pick between the Asus 540 and the Zowie, which would you choose?
@luukherfst1209 28 күн бұрын
Asus every day of the week. Since it's both 540hz you're aiming for insane motion clarity which both have and insanely low response times and insanely low imput lag. Asus wins really significantly in terms of response times and imput lag and these 2 things matter the most for competitive gaming. Refresh rate isn't a discussion since you know, both 540hz
@ayyjayy5018 28 күн бұрын
@@luukherfst1209 from what I’ve seen they are basically on par with each other, the Asus gets brighter without ulmb2 on but darker with it on vs dyac2 but the zowie has better color accuracy, 99 vs something in the 80s for Asus. I haven’t seen anything specifically saying the Asus is faster, I’ve seen reports saying dyac2 is clearer though Also they are both the same underlying panel Au optronics
@markjacobs1086 20 күн бұрын
@ayyjayy5018 WHAT... The Zowie was literally IMPOSSIBLE to get calibrated to anything NEAR accurate to srgb (which is the only colourspace it can utilise effectively given it has no hardware to do even reasonable HDR). The fact the ASUS monitor has a functioning srgb mode makes it win that category by default because this Zowie monitor is frankly absolutely terrible at it.
@ayyjayy5018 19 күн бұрын
@@markjacobs1086 which mode should I be using on the Asus, srgb seems dark out of the box without any additional settings, been using gsync esports mode which brightens it up
@markjacobs1086 19 күн бұрын
@ayyjayy5018 Ironically, the default mode is very likely to be the most "accurate" setting available if you don't have the tools required for a full calibration. Not that things need to be accurate if you don't want them to, then it's more of a whatever you like type of scenario & there is no "best mode to use".
@kostek6536 27 күн бұрын
when review of mag274qrf qd e2?
@vlad3k660 28 күн бұрын
this is what i want to see
@suni08 28 күн бұрын
Even though I'd never buy an esports monitor I adore how purpose-built this monitor is for 1 use case and 1 use case alone But wtf is that price
@user-bj2pp8ry9u 23 күн бұрын
Brother please help MSI 27 G2712F , AOC G24G4X or LG 24GN60R
@sephondranzer 28 күн бұрын
I feel bad because I often skip to the conclusion. Then take forever to watch the other parts, thank you for the great breakdowns and sorry for the ADHD!
@nicl4388 28 күн бұрын
When are you going to address the VRR flicker issues with these OLEDs? I literally see it in your videos but you never bring it up.
@monotoneone 28 күн бұрын
I'm not sure I understand, what is there to address? All monitors have brightness flicker when the refresh rate varies wildly. The higher the contrast the more you will notice it, so OLEDs are the worst followed by VA and finally TN/IPS. You want to cap framerate with Rivatuner or similar (lots of in-game settings do a poor job).
@SlyNine 28 күн бұрын
My old C9 doesn't have a flicker issue except in loading screens. But so does my LCD monitor.
@chaniibak7702 28 күн бұрын
@@monotoneonewatch rtings video on it
@appleloss 28 күн бұрын
I really want to see Dyac2 tech in 4K 240hz monitor
@VeeHausen 28 күн бұрын
The biggest, thickest bezels ever :D
@MaZEEZaM 28 күн бұрын
And why they went with an ugly light grey I don't know. If they had to have such huge bezels, they could at least have made the plastic black so as to blend in as much as possible.
@wertyuiopasd6281 28 күн бұрын
Based
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 27 күн бұрын
Here before all those defenders of big bezels arrive lol
@RicochetForce 27 күн бұрын
It was too long, too thick, too wide to be called a bezel…
@Dave-dh7rt 26 күн бұрын
I bought a chinese 1440p 180hz monitor in 2018 off of eBay for $240. They don’t sell them anymore but it was a STEAL for its time. It’s only a TN panel but the viewing angles and colors are actually quite good. Im still rocking it to this day and do not plan to upgrade until I can get an insanely good 1440P or 4k 240+hz OLED for less than $400.
@freegaming9820 28 күн бұрын
Are you planning to review more 1080p monitors?
@theSato 28 күн бұрын
I don't really see the point in it, outside of these edge cases where they offer something you can't get in a 1440p+ package.
@jaszjsz 28 күн бұрын
2010 called. it wants its bezels back.
@griffin1366 28 күн бұрын
People get this upset about Bezels?
@Avioto 28 күн бұрын
@@griffin1366 People who don't understand who this monitor is for yes.
@griffin1366 28 күн бұрын
@@Avioto I have 2 monitors, XL2456K and a XG2431. I unironically like the Bezels. Soul vs souless.
@Navi_xoo 28 күн бұрын
Tim talks about how it helps with esports but low res and bad color can make targets much more difficult to spot. Ltt has done tests that show going above 240hz barely has any affect on aim. This is simply a monitor aimed at people who think it will make them good at cs or its various clones.
@griffin1366 28 күн бұрын
@@Navi_xoo Crazy that people reference LTT... And the whole point of higher refreshrates isn't about aim.
@viniciuseduardobomfim 28 күн бұрын
*"Making the Mother Of All Bezels here, Jack! Can't fret over every other brand with much more modern designs."* - BenQ, probably...
@TalooshDaBoss 28 күн бұрын
for reviews like these you guys should get esports players to try them and give their opinions and how they differ for their main use of competitive gaming
@jonathanhayhurst3928 24 күн бұрын
Why are there no monitors between 1440p and 4k? I just bought a premium 1440p 27’ monitor, and I would happily have paid an additional $100-$200 for 1620p or 1800p with another inch or two in size.
@Layarion 28 күн бұрын
so what I'm getting out of this, is when OLED finally does backlight strobing at 30hz, 60hz, 120hz, and higher, it'll become god. Especially for low fps locked games.
@Frozoken 28 күн бұрын
I mean kinda but there no blacklight so it'll always be limited to half its refresh rate at most
@Layarion 28 күн бұрын
@@Frozoken half of 480hz is no slouch and should look pretty darn good. the big benefit to the strobing though is games that you want clarity but they just don't support high refresh. having strobing on a 30fps locked game for example
@Frozoken 27 күн бұрын
@@Layarion very true it's definitely something they should add but just won't help beat the very best case for strobed lcds
@AnimeUniverseDE 27 күн бұрын
Yeah Tim should have shown the backlight strobing quality at 60hz and 120hz so that we have a baseline on how great backlight strobing makes these low refresh rates. And push consumers and manufacturers into adding BFI to their OLED monitors
@Doctor0Who 22 күн бұрын
And then you get your Burn-In...just a matter of when it occurs for you...because it WILL!
@eliadbu 28 күн бұрын
Imagine modern OLED monitor with around 500hz and good BFI implementation, it will blow such monitor out of the water, especially with such price tag, not that OLED isn't out perform in every other metric, but BFI will give oled also deminish that lone advantage these monitors have.
@Doctor0Who 22 күн бұрын
...and then you get your Burn-In..and are like... "Ouch..should have not gotten OLED"
@eliadbu 22 күн бұрын
@@Doctor0Who I have LG CX TV, soon 4 years old, I used it for pc and general TV content consumption with daily use. Zero burn in so far ( at least non that I can see). I'm not saying burn in is not a thing on OLED, it is and I have older phones with some burn in, but OLED are at a point that they are quite reliable for normal use. So if I get 5-6 years before any major damage happens to it, IMO it is worth it, so yes I will get OLED monitor, and I'm glad I get it over LCD, I had enough of LCDs. But each one to their owns, I will not tell you what to buy.
@007LuckyCharms 28 күн бұрын
Even with the blue busters ufo test the image with the 32gs95ue is much easier to see and less blurry then any of the zowie ones
@cptcrogge 28 күн бұрын
I expected a lower latency with such a high refresh rate.
@unknowntiger9108 26 күн бұрын
Impossible because it's a LCD.
@xdc102 18 күн бұрын
can you review asus xg27acs please????
@musicxxa6678 28 күн бұрын
480hz oled is insane.
@XLoad3d 28 күн бұрын
The Alienware 500hz IPS is usually available for $500 all the time.
@luukherfst1209 20 күн бұрын
Yes but the response time on that thing is so awful to the point you have a lot of ghosting and no clear image at all even tho it's 500hz
@willsutton54 28 күн бұрын
sO DO i NEED TO STACK 4 X 4090'S IN MY CASE TO GET 540hZ ?
@dangahagan7645 28 күн бұрын
Honestly, I see no reason for anyone looking at a monitor in this price range to get anything other than the LG WOLED. It literally gives you all the functionality of a $1000 esports monitor and a $1000 HDR monitor in one.
@ployth9000 28 күн бұрын
and you can get the lg monitor for like $1041 on lg direct with the 40% discount right now so its a steal
@ayyjayy5018 28 күн бұрын
Except it’s 32” and the 1080p downscaled mode makes everything look too soft
@wertyuiopasd6281 28 күн бұрын
32" is a terrible size. Monitors should be 24" / 27" maybe for some games and that's it.
@-eMpTy- 28 күн бұрын
No competitive fps player is using 32". Most use 24", some 27".
@dangahagan7645 28 күн бұрын
@@-eMpTy- good thing it comes with a 24” and 27” mode
@kaiserfakinaway5909 28 күн бұрын
a monitor that is functional in all ways but picture quality but another monitor that is reasonably functional and has some of the best, if not the best picture quality. Strictly as a monitor the OLEDs win without a doubt but if high brightness is required all the time with static HUDs then burn in might be a concern especially for an esports player who might stream 12 hours a day or something so there's pros and cons to everything as always but the price of the BENQ is far too much for what it is, but welp i ain't an esports player so I wouldn't know. Honestly tho, I haven't seen much esports players actually use these monitors like they just use what is provides to them by sponsors a lot of the times and they just play their best that's it.
@kentuckye_3008 6 күн бұрын
Refresh Compliance: 31.8%; does that mean this monitor only displays true 540 Hz: 31.8% most of the time? Other than this (68.2%), the monitor will cause motion blur, ghosting, overshoot, etc. equivalent to less than 540 Hz? Am I right?
@StaySic4Ever 28 күн бұрын
These cost way too much being LCD though, it will be around €1250 where I am, especially now that OLEDs are getting higher Hz too though. I'll wait to see that dual mode Asus one. Wish OLED offer proper BFI we'll see if the Asus one can do 240Hz with BFI at least. But yeah at that point I'm already seeing the end of LCDs really. Next 1000Hz no way anyone using LCD it's too slow. So with future OLED monitors and improvements, just need max Hz BFI and also along VRR as option. But yeah good stuff, these are the fastest Hz monitors and new also for tournaments and lower volume so I get the price, kinda, but still quite hefty vs upcoming OLEDs though. I'd expect these LCDs to get half price eventually once new OLEDs release.
@mrpicky1868 24 күн бұрын
can you please test QE43QN90D ?
@brucethen 28 күн бұрын
Benq, you're welcome
@0mnis14sh 28 күн бұрын
Damn, sounds like it's double strobing at 60hz, what a huge missed opportunity! With the rolling strobe it would have been a genuine leap towards what CRTs offered.
@MrNanpaps265 23 күн бұрын
hi can @monitorsunboxed can you review the msi g255F and also is pairing laptop with the monitor should i stay within the laptop refresh rate because i highly doubt that i will get close to 180 hz with a gaming laptop
@rutamc 15 күн бұрын
you should try bfi on the oled
@didamnesia3575 28 күн бұрын
Please check the bezel for a body
@stevens1041 28 күн бұрын
540 Hz is insane. I'm good for now with my 165 Hz panel. Hopefully the technology will proliferate more in coming years while I save up more cash to splash on such novelties.
@KrYPTzx 22 күн бұрын
Hey Guys a strange request but would you guys review the Xiaomi 1080p G27i monitor it's quite cheap for what it claims to provide
@KrYPTzx 22 күн бұрын
So I would really appreciate it if you guys review it
@SkorpionHG 28 күн бұрын
Yeah the 480hz oled is the goat
@inceptionsd 21 күн бұрын
I never expected I'd see a tossup between a TN and an OLED monitor.
@luukherfst1209 20 күн бұрын
That's only because of higher refresh rate tho😅. 540hz oled would spank 540hz tn any day of the week
@inceptionsd 20 күн бұрын
@@luukherfst1209 Yeah, I know. Thats why i made that comment in the firstcplace. I thought fast IPS already made TN tech obsolete.
@valentinbarinov 28 күн бұрын
Do a CRT review, the motion clearity is unbeatable
@wlf1727 27 күн бұрын
Hey, love your videos! I got a new oled monitor arriving in a view days (360hz QD-OLED from alienware) and i would be interested in a little setup guide for OLED monitors, both the monitor and windows settings you would recommend to prevent burn in and just the optimal settings in generall.
@Doctor0Who 22 күн бұрын
Just a quick note... Nothing, is going to prevent the Burn-In...maybe stall it for a bit...maybe but the problem with OLED is it WILL happen...just a matter of when?!
@ewitte12 28 күн бұрын
Lookong nicer for TN lol. The best of the best in the center of the screen straight on may look ok...
@agarion101 7 күн бұрын
So to sum it up, if I want a 540hz monitor, and a monitor with best motion clarity, get the asus one
@shang-chihluo7822 28 күн бұрын
What happened with that ridiculous bezel?
@methhead56 28 күн бұрын
So the new OLEDs beat the Zowie out in both input lag and response time. In esports, the majority of pros disable DYAC with zowie monitors. Who’s this monitor for?
@444chroma 28 күн бұрын
Someone who really values having the best motion clarity.
@StaySic4Ever 28 күн бұрын
tournaments, competitive players to have same monitor as on tournament. really depending on game strobe really clears the picture in fast motions so, to each their own.
@wertyuiopasd6281 28 күн бұрын
For dedicated esport events who will use the same TN 540HZ with the same settings/saturation etc for CS2 etc. It is a niche for cs players.
@ItsGenn 28 күн бұрын
Just like with every other high-end monitor, it’s aimed at enthusiasts. Some enthusiasts care about better image quality and appreciate better colour reproduction, contrast, resolution and features like HDR, etc. while others care about motion clarity and blur reduction tech. It all really comes down to what you enjoy doing at your PC. If you do a lot of content consumption at your PC or need a lot of screen real state for work stuff you’re going to look at different very different monitors when deciding what to get compared to someone who uses their PC just to play competitive games, even if it’s with friends and not in very serious manner. With that said, I wouldn’t look at what pros do because having a good understanding of hardware isn’t a requirement to be good at a game. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of them weren’t even aware of the existence of these monitors unless Zowie contacted their organisation. Some definitely are enthusiasts, though, and assuming their game can be ran at a solid +540FPS will definitely get one. Few games can actually do it (VAL, R6 and OW2) so the huge CS crowd misses out on it, which is a shame. I’d definitely get one to keep as a second monitor on a pole-stacking arm so I can swap to it for FPS games, personally. At least until we get a 1440p 27” OLED that flat-out beats it, especially if it can do some sort of BFI at a similar refresh rate.
@sarpp69 27 күн бұрын
Most pros dont know anything about hardware, they just want to copy their settings in a superior zowie panel.
@raul-km6mq 28 күн бұрын
Just get a crt monitor for native bfi in every frame and instant response times
@xdc102 26 күн бұрын
please review asus xg27acs
@crestofhonor2349 28 күн бұрын
CRTs are still kings of motion clarity even at 60hz
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