6.5 Creedmoor vs. 243 Winchester

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Alaskan Ballistics

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4 жыл бұрын

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Today we're comparing two light recoiling calibers for hunting purposes. Which do you like better? Sound off in the comments below!
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@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
If you are calling this test unfair or not "apples to apples" then you're showing how little you know about bullets. This is a fair test because... 1) There is no factory loaded 100gr for 6.5 and no 120gr for the .243 2) These bullets are of the same bullet construction, a bullet construction I'd use on anything in Alaska except the biggest brown bears in these calibers. 3) The sectional densities are similar. 4) The Ballistic coefficients are similar 5) They're both shot out of 22" barrels. 6) They're both mid range bullets for their caliber. If you comment that this test isn't fair, you're showing how little you know about bullets and calibers and ammo.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
@keith johnson
@couespursuit7350
@couespursuit7350 3 жыл бұрын
AB you exactly correct. You used similar weight bullets for caliber as demonstrated by the same BC and SD.
@repairfreak
@repairfreak 3 жыл бұрын
How can you say this test is fair, you didn’t shoot through the same density pieces of meat, nor did you hit the water bottle the same. I would suggest a more controlled test for penetration if that’s what your after. Thanks for the video.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Got the meat as close as possible
@repairfreak
@repairfreak 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I understand, no big deal. Keep up with the nice videos, much appreciated. ✌️😎👍🇺🇸
@stuartmarkman769
@stuartmarkman769 3 жыл бұрын
I like 243 and it is a fast accurate round that works for me. It is less expensive tp load as well. There are many loads for 243.
@boomerisadog3899
@boomerisadog3899 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a little H&R break action .243 that I use to hunt whitetail out of a tree stand. Excellent cartridge for small to medium game. Plus the lighter stuff will zip right through all level 3 and most level 4 plates. I want to build an ar10 around the .243.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I've not seen a video of .243 stuff going through a level 4 plate.
@zakattack467
@zakattack467 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics sounds like a good idea for a video.. maybe "common hunting calibers vs level 4 plates"
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
I tried a solid copper 7mm Rem Mag 120gr at 3570 fps at a level 4 plate
@JESSEPAVON
@JESSEPAVON 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics i have a 7mm, did you load 120gr cause I’ve never seen it at stores
@seaskoot1957
@seaskoot1957 3 жыл бұрын
Nice test. I'll stick with my 243
@Loganj873
@Loganj873 3 жыл бұрын
I shoot 143 grain for 6.5 and i like it but 243 is a great rifle might buy one for my mom some day
@scotterinsam
@scotterinsam 3 жыл бұрын
Pains me that people call it a youth or ladies gun. Love my .243 semi
@tn_bluestem
@tn_bluestem 3 жыл бұрын
Those people have small PPs
@MrBarlien
@MrBarlien 3 жыл бұрын
@@tn_bluestem can't judge when it's just a semi
@davidpallin772
@davidpallin772 3 жыл бұрын
Ladies gun? Hardly.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
@David Pallin my wife prefers my .338win mag
@franko3006
@franko3006 3 жыл бұрын
The 243 was actually made for woman and youth look up the history. also for those that flinched on recoil
@johnagen3688
@johnagen3688 3 жыл бұрын
Call me crazy or just a traditional caliber kinda guy but the way I see it the wheel wasn't broke, so I'll stick with the 243!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. They'll both with fine. .243 certainly is faster.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
@Jake Berry yet is crushed by the 6.5 prc
@leshemby9430
@leshemby9430 2 жыл бұрын
I've never had a deer take another step not one with a 243. I don't own a 6.5 Creedmoor but I can tell ya texas gun trader is full of them. I'll keep my little ol 243 so I can laugh when someone says not a ģood enough blood trail.lol no because it stops where you pull the trigger and shoot cheap 100gr remington core lol. And this is based on way over 50 deer on high fence doe çulls
@SkellyWaggs
@SkellyWaggs 2 жыл бұрын
@@leshemby9430 you must not have been hunting very much, if you shoot often every year, you could be shooting a 300 win mag and you’ll still have a few deer “take one step” at the very least.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Not if you neck shoot them. .223 Rem in Georgia was the only caliber I never had a deer run off from. But i shot does over foodplots and put it at base of the brain stem.
@sueannjefferds9247
@sueannjefferds9247 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful test. Thank you. My husband has a Remington model 700 chambered in 243 that he is going to give our Grandson. It was his Grandfathers from the early 70's and only fired a handful of times. He is taking him white tail hunting next year. Again, thank you.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I'd recommend this ammunition
@robjones8733
@robjones8733 3 жыл бұрын
That's cool! Pass em along!
@arturovizcaino1934
@arturovizcaino1934 3 жыл бұрын
“My first rifle was a .243 papa gave daddy and daddy gave to me.”
@mot0rhe4d40
@mot0rhe4d40 2 жыл бұрын
@@arturovizcaino1934 Those are the best of family traditions. My wife took her first deer with her Dad's 30-30, I took our oldest out last season and she shot her first with Grandpa's 30-30. Hope to do the same for my grandkids some day. 😉
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. A 243 or 7-08 brackets the 6.5 nicely. I have always been a 243 fan. With 100gr ammo it is a beast👍🇺🇸
@jacob-webber-outdoors
@jacob-webber-outdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Love my. 243 with 100 grain. Super accurate and easy to shoot!!
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacob-webber-outdoors yes sir👍🇺🇸
@RegularGunGuy
@RegularGunGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I dopped multiple deer with either 100 gr or 95 gr in 243 win. But I have both. 6.5 creedmoor better for elk or beer out to 400 to 500 yards. Past that doing 300 Win Mag.
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 3 жыл бұрын
@@RegularGunGuy yes sir, I like the way you think👍🇺🇸
@hedge7743
@hedge7743 3 жыл бұрын
The .243 can do a lot with a little. I'm not selling mine anytime soon... The 6.5, to me at least, can do a little more given the circumstances. I just have to find a sticker that says "Ladies gun" for mine now...Ouch guys....Much Love! - Hedge
@CallOFDutyMVP666
@CallOFDutyMVP666 3 жыл бұрын
I am a simple man. I wake up, have my coffee, jump on YT, see a new Alaskan Ballistics video, I Click. Greetings from Nevada. Great content as always.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother!!!
@mario90030
@mario90030 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jayklink851
@jayklink851 3 жыл бұрын
"that's just something they dont understand"
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
@Jay Klink
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 3 жыл бұрын
I never saw the big deal about the 6.5 Creed, now an experienced reloader working with 25/06, that is another story altogether.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@andyanaoutdoors2487
@andyanaoutdoors2487 3 жыл бұрын
Love the .243 and will stick to the old school.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
To each their own
@mopesrus7266
@mopesrus7266 2 жыл бұрын
No disrespect to 6.5 or it's devotees but, I've had many years of success with .243. I haven't seen any videos, printed or anecdotal information to make me buy one.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
@mopesrus no offense taken, if you had been able to buy a 6.5 back then, you would probably say the same thing about .243 Both good cartridges
@mopesrus7266
@mopesrus7266 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics You have a very valid point. I just might buy a 6.5 to see for myself what it's all about after the current silliness settles down. Never can have too many toys.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
@mopesrus thanks for watching and the commenting. Godspeed and good hunting
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not interested in switching. Here in the Southeast the .243 is an excellent dual purpose caliber. Light bullets for coyotes and heavy bullets for hogs & whitetail.
@Jeff_Seely
@Jeff_Seely Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison. My wife wanted a 243 ultralight hunting rifle . So I bought one with a 1:8.5 twist. And then I throated the barrel out .100" so that she could shoot a Berger 115gr VLD Hunter. That gun shoots single digit ES and SDs as well and is an absolute joy for accuracy. The work cost me about 100 bucks, to throat, the gun out myself with a reamer. It is now a very much different. 243. Cheers!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
That's awesome. Good hunting to both of you!
@babyhulk5977
@babyhulk5977 3 жыл бұрын
i've never used anything lighter than 100 grain in 243 as my old remington 788 shoots lights out with it.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't change it then, though these 80gr are as long as a 100gr being a copper
@mbw65
@mbw65 3 жыл бұрын
Barnes 85 gr TSX shoots very well for deer and pronghorn.
@rogergoodwin374
@rogergoodwin374 3 жыл бұрын
Roger that.
@msgmatt2674
@msgmatt2674 3 жыл бұрын
My longest shot with a 243 was 225 yds. Drop the whitetail in his tracks. All my deer were taken between 175 and 225 yards with Cord-lokt 100 grain only one shot. Great video but I'm staying with what I'm comfortable with.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I don't blame you there
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
But not legal in most states and has the same kinetic energy as a 9mm round from a pistol. @Harry Dick Just because you can doesn't mean you should
@johnshields9110
@johnshields9110 3 жыл бұрын
I started out hunting with a 243 forty years ago. Used it for varmints and deer. Preferred 87 grain spire point for deer; 80 grain HP for groundhogs. Every deer hit in the right place, which ever way they turned, if they didn't just fall over, the were never more than 50 foot from where shot! These were big well fed country deer too.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
It'll certainly do the job! Thanks for watching!!!
@thomashoward9806
@thomashoward9806 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Bought my mod. 700 in 1968. BDL for $150 at a western auto store. 243. Bought a RCBS Jr press and with 87 gr. Hornady fur saver, 42 grains of Dupont IMR 4350 I've had good all around game taking. Super accurate out 400 yards. Love it.
@johnshields9110
@johnshields9110 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomashoward9806 That's a great all around load you mentioned with the IMR 4350. I stepped on my load for 80 grain's a bit, though not necessary, to challenge the 22-250 guys. As you said, it's a 400 yard gun. Happy shooting, brother!
@MrJones-xw8mn
@MrJones-xw8mn 2 жыл бұрын
My experience on whitetail deer is that the 6.5 Creedmoor doesn't deliver the goods like the .243. It is a great hole puncher but it seems to just cut through where the .243 dumps all into the animal, when considering comparable bullet construction. I guess the 6.5 would be better for larger, heavier game.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I'm thinking you used the wrong bullet. You want an exit wound to drop the blood pressure.
@naturestrail2296
@naturestrail2296 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics My experience is .270 absolutely blows a .243 away hands down without any doubt in the world if the little extra kick is acceptable. Don't notice it that much myself although it is a little more kick. Same brand and series of ammo used in both.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Well yeah it's got way more case capacity, not even the same category of cartridge
@naturestrail2296
@naturestrail2296 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I know lol. I don't see that the kick feels that much worse. Is it really that much different to some? I see it on the specs to be a lot different but just doesn't feel that much different I guess. Maybe I'm crazy? The .223 is way lighter kick though. I've been wandering how the .308 & 6.5 cm compare to the .270 for deer at 400 yds though. The .270 that much better than .308 too? I have a .270 but keep considering a .308 or 6.5 cm to replace it. But hate to be disappointed in the end as many of my shots are in an open field at 300 to 500 yd.
@dnnyshdy5189
@dnnyshdy5189 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Jones,that’s absolute crazy talk
@thefounding5879
@thefounding5879 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Some of the comments are pretty intense. I personally went with the .243 caliber over the 6.5 Creedmore when I purchased my Henry Long Ranger because of ammo availability. Performance does not matter if the shelves don’t have 6.5 on them. Not to mention I wanted the .243 to fill a gap in my toolbox going from varmint to deer. From deer on up I have other choices for ammo that make more sense for me than 6.5 Cr. Great video by Alaskan Ballistics and great job on the comparison!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. As a handloader i didn't really think about ammo availability. Godspeed and good hunting.
@brookslide4692
@brookslide4692 2 жыл бұрын
Founding hit the nail on head. Thanks 🙂
@SandMDOTCOM1
@SandMDOTCOM1 2 жыл бұрын
Great rounds.... I have yet to buy a 6.5 CM mainly because I am tooled up for reloading 243 and 308. I don't see the gain that I would get dropping money on a caliber change. Both of the old cartridges drop animals just fine.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they do...
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
For hunting there not really a reason to change over to 6.5 creedmoor... but long range paper shooting is where the creedmoor shines
@MochaZilla
@MochaZilla 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics and if you want a dual purpose hunting rifle/sniper rifle "just in case"
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed by caribou went down like she got hit with a meteorite in the head with my 6.5 @Yew Dude Syde
@MochaZilla
@MochaZilla 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics ohh very nice!
@dangerousfreedom4965
@dangerousfreedom4965 3 жыл бұрын
After watching this video the conclusion I’ve come to is that 270 wins
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
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@paulaustin29
@paulaustin29 3 жыл бұрын
I invite you to research the 2506
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
@Paul Austin I invite you to watch my whole .25-06 playlist .25-06: kzfaq.info/sun/PLgyCOrlBEzeBxEh6q6wNbolqRl_G368BD
@evanrumbold5452
@evanrumbold5452 3 жыл бұрын
I have an H and R .280 shoots flat just hard to find rounds. I live in northern Michigan
@Bubblyhiccups
@Bubblyhiccups 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck reaching a mile with a .270. Come back when your powder weighs are in the 40s 🤣
@nathanmanley4203
@nathanmanley4203 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great comparison video
@gavinrogers6992
@gavinrogers6992 3 жыл бұрын
The 6.5 Creedmoor didn’t hit the bottles as square as the 243 did, and it did not retain its weight as well, it also didn’t expand as much. So I would have to go with the 243. I’ve used it for hogs and for deer, it’s an all-around fantastic cartridge.
@jacstocker7257
@jacstocker7257 2 жыл бұрын
243 has been around a lot longer, ammo is probably more easily available. And it's no doubt effective
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Until the ammo shortage I'd say it's the other way around. 6.5 is better in more energy, better long range Ballistics, heavier bullets.
@PileofBrass
@PileofBrass 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the numbers, the Creed is a K.O. As good a round as the .243 is, the Creed out does it.
@dalanwanbdiska6542
@dalanwanbdiska6542 2 жыл бұрын
I see more 243 than 6.5 at shops.
@jeremymead8546
@jeremymead8546 2 жыл бұрын
Comparing the recovered bullets , i suggest the 6.5 expanded more but penetrated much further which ( for want of a better way of putting it ) folded the expanded part of the projectile back against itself. The extra weight shed can be directly attributed to the much greater penetration. Not to say that the 243 is not a good cartridge, just that 6.5cm is a more capable one. By the way , i have neither, i do have and handload 6.5 x 55, which can out perform 6.5 cm.
@kellyfreeman6275
@kellyfreeman6275 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have had the pleasure of shooting and hunting with both calibers. I am a fan of each of them. If I was looking to buy my first rifle. I would get the 6.5 Creedmor. Since I already have a 243. With all the bells and whistles that I want. In 1990s money. The ballistics gain of switching, couldn't justify the cost. At least for my hunting situation.
@InSightFreedom
@InSightFreedom 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason the .243 Win gets lost in the vast ammo mix. I have one that I purchased for my son to use to hunt with a few years ago. It’s a great round and available at a lot of stores.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
That's good. Even 3006, 270. And 300 win mag are running low here. Happens during hunting season but happening worse this year
@johnwallace1729
@johnwallace1729 3 жыл бұрын
i have no prob with .243 , last stop at the ammo spot 2 days ago all they had was 6.5 creedmore , .300 win Mag and .300 Ultramag , ,all the shelves were bare , it took me a week to find 2 boxes of .30-30 for the winchester levergun , its crazy out here right now .
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnwallace1729 wow. Yeah 6.5 is really available here too
@InSightFreedom
@InSightFreedom 3 жыл бұрын
Alaskan Ballistics availability was a big reason for me deciding to pick up the Tikka in 6.5.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
@@InSightFreedom how do you like it? What model did you get?
@saskcop416
@saskcop416 3 жыл бұрын
.243 is popular in my household. 100 grain Nosler Partition loaded to 3000 fps. Shoots through both sides of just about anything.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Cool what powder do you use?
@chucker625
@chucker625 2 жыл бұрын
I took my first whitetail with my dad's 243. Fast forward 24 years (almost to the day) and I just harvested my latest whitetail with the same rifle. I've been looking at retiring it and going with something newer. Been debating between 243 and 6.5. The rapid energy dump and expansion of the 243 makes it an ideal whitetail cartridge. I don't think I will be switching.
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. I'm a fan of both cartridges. They are in the sweet spot of my collection with the .243, 25-06. 6.5 x 55 Swede and 6.5 Creedmoor. My 7mm Mauser is close to the rest. All shoot flat and hit hard.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to shoot the 6.5x55 Swede
@cbwelch4
@cbwelch4 10 ай бұрын
How does the 6.5x55 compare to 6.5 CM in your experience? Waaay before it's time.
@ChitFromChinola
@ChitFromChinola 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, good video, man - the Creedmoor did great!! The 243 is a terrific round, but I love that the 6.5 Creedmoor is getting so much attention. Directs the ammo guys to do a ton of work on sub-7 mm rounds. I feel like the big recoil “tough guy”rounds have held the spotlight for a long time, so it’s good to see these lighter-recoil-but-hard-hitting hunting rounds get some love. Gives us more choices and more fun stuff to talk about. :-)
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 6.5s thanks for watching and the comments
@nielrossouw7831
@nielrossouw7831 3 жыл бұрын
I have shot a lot of antelope with a 243 ranging from Springbuck to Blue Wildebeest. We had to cull a herd of Springbuck on a cattle farm during a drought. We shot 79 in 3 days. The 243 running 95gr Balistic Tips did a great job. We shot a lot at night as we rarely got shots inside 450m during the day. We used exactly 82 rounds and did not lose a single animal. It shoots flat enough to be forgiving if you get the range wrong and hammers animals. I will stick to my 243 and 30-06 for everything in Africa besides the big5.
@luketilley9137
@luketilley9137 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brother. The 6.5 surprised me. I still choose the 7mm-08 over the 6.5. I wouldn't want to get shot with a 22 short. Stay Safe and GOD Bless 🙏🕊🇺🇸🦅
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
7mm-08 is a great caliber
@jasonsliger5430
@jasonsliger5430 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with the 6.5 but we already had the 7mm-08 and other calibers. They needed a new caliber to make more money imo. Lol
@jasonsliger5430
@jasonsliger5430 3 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket I've never fired the 6.5 so I'm admittingly not knowledgeable about it. I just know that for what I do and not shooting competition that the 7mm-08 would suffice. I'm not knocking the 6.5 and are sure that it's good for competition shooting. I need to see some results from people that have taken game with it.
@jasonsliger5430
@jasonsliger5430 3 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket k, I'll do some further research.
@thekraken4548
@thekraken4548 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonsliger5430 Everybody has different results, but my buddy who is a great shot picked up a 6.5 and downed two whitetails in their tracks at 100 yards on back to back days. Both deer didn't take 1 step but also both shots were perfect heart shots as well.
@adamcuneo7189
@adamcuneo7189 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my Ruger M77 in .243, it's hard to beat such a nice cartridge. I don't have a 6.5 Creedmoor, and neither have I shot one, but I would love to shoot one, and see the difference between the two cartridges. I don't really think there will be a huge difference though, they are pretty close to being the same cartridge.
@mikeparker2520
@mikeparker2520 3 жыл бұрын
Ive always used the 100 gr bthp in my .243, a consistent tack driver, great on mule deer and smaller. The 80gr is designed to be a long range coyote/rock chuck round, of course it will penetrate less (as designed).
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
But i bet this copper bullet will penetrate well as well a bthp in things like deer
@ckim6400
@ckim6400 3 жыл бұрын
.243 Winchester has a LOOOOOONG history! Mine was made in 1955 and has performed everytime. I know .243 Winchester is available almost everywhere. Can't give you an opinion on 6.5 Creedmoor. Don't own one, haven't shot one. I'm happy with my .243 Winchester Model 70 featherlight!! No It's not For Sale........
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Great man. I'd definitely keep that feather light
@jonnytimerider
@jonnytimerider 3 жыл бұрын
I also have the model 70 Featherweight classic in .243, and i`m in the uk, they`re difficult to get over here, and mine`s not for sale either ;)
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you have a great .243 over there brother! @jonnytimerider
@stuckcase7775
@stuckcase7775 3 жыл бұрын
Heavy versus heavy-the difference is conversational. The 243 and a 100gr soft point equals poison on whitetail.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
True, 120gr soft point from a 6.5 would do the dange thing
@stuckcase7775
@stuckcase7775 3 жыл бұрын
Alaskan Ballistics most differences are purely conversational. I have said this many times-Winchester has it right in 1963: 220 swift, 243, 257 Roberts, 270, 30.06, 35 Whelen, 264 win, 300 win, 308, 375 h and h, 458 win. Not much has been improved on since
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I agree... I've said caliber debates are dumb, but people like watching it on KZfaq
@mattjubie
@mattjubie 3 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket and before 30-30 spears and arrows dominated white tail
@skyforge
@skyforge 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattjubie and they were way better at hunting.
@369motoman
@369motoman 3 жыл бұрын
My Tikka 243 w 58 grain superformance varmint is my go to for coyotes, wicked little pills! Furthest so far is 495yds and had a exit hole the size of a tennis ball... not fur friendly. 100 grain soft points for deer size game makes it a super versatile caliber!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a fun load to shoot
@369motoman
@369motoman 3 жыл бұрын
Over 3800 fps of fun!
@jude.v25
@jude.v25 3 жыл бұрын
I've become a big fan of the .243 due to it's versatility and easy to reload for accuracy. I tell folks I'm shooting a 6mm08 and let them figure out what it is. If I was shooting out to 1000 yards, I might invest in the 6.5 but I'm sticking with my old friend. :)
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that
@thomashoward9806
@thomashoward9806 2 жыл бұрын
No 243 ammo in Mo. But, snicker snicker, got plenty of reloads. 87 gr. Hornady fur savers, IMR 4350. Bad to the bone.
@BuckFoeJiden
@BuckFoeJiden Жыл бұрын
The ELD bullets in 243 will easily touch 1k yds. A lot of long range competition guys have gone over to 6mm Creedmoor, which is effectively the same round as the 243.
@DavidHernandez-zm7cg
@DavidHernandez-zm7cg 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video since I havd both caliber Thank you
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@zayacz123
@zayacz123 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sayin versus instead of verse. I hear many KZfaqrs say this verse that. Fun video!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
A verse is part of a song lol
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 3 жыл бұрын
They both had great expansion👍🇺🇸
@peterhert9350
@peterhert9350 3 жыл бұрын
I shoot and reload a lot of calibers (22,222,223, 243,6.5, 270,280,308,3006,300,338,...). Leadfree for hunting. The 243 (Twist for light bullets) ist one of my favourites. Easy to reload, super accuracy, very good for smaller Deer.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
What bullet do you use?
@peterhert9350
@peterhert9350 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Barnes ttsx, tsx, xlc (discontinued)
@007travelbug
@007travelbug 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterhert9350 Peter what twist are you talking for the .243 and is it an off the shelf gun or custom? looking for a new .243 recommendation and I heard there are different twist rates available and wondering what makes sense for light rounds (coyote, fox, rabbit, chucks, etc)
@garyevans3421
@garyevans3421 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you have your bald eagle looking on with interest at the ballistic testing!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks i got lucky with that photo.
@mitchellnelms7572
@mitchellnelms7572 3 жыл бұрын
I've always been a huge fan of the 243. I carried winchester 90gr(?) for years hunting blacktail in Western Washington near Ranier. The deer would go into shock on impact, their legs would stiffen and they'd slump over onto their sides.
@AlphaRomeoOneFive
@AlphaRomeoOneFive 3 жыл бұрын
Both performed great but the 6.5 Creedmoor is really impressive for sure even with it being a heavier round than the .243. I've always wanted to make an AR in .308 but with the gaining popularity and performance of 6.5 Creedmoor I'll probably end up going that route when I'm able to. Excellent as always Chuck, you and the family have a blessed weekend!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm thinking of building an 18" 6.5 Battle rifle
@mrf5347
@mrf5347 3 жыл бұрын
AR 10, fun I've had dpms, 2 diamond back, pof, chambered in 308's. All were Good! Then pof in 6.5C. amazing! Fast, accurate, consistent!
@jimf1964
@jimf1964 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you think the heavier round is a bad thing? You get a better BC, plus way better terminal ballistics at longer ranges, which means better penetration. Yes, there will be a little more bullet drop, but as a trade off, with the BC, less drift from wind.
@cpprcrk1833
@cpprcrk1833 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually most impressed with the fact that the 6.5 was that close to advertised velocities as it was ! I like Hornady ammo , but they are notorious for not meeting published velocities on their products .
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@oceannavagator
@oceannavagator 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, but no surprise. The 243 always seems to need a longer barrel to perform with light bullets. As to why that is, I have no clue, my Sako with a 26 inch barrel tosses them very well. The 6.5 is a great round, wish I had one.
@thetriode
@thetriode 3 жыл бұрын
@@oceannavagator easy, for a set burn rate powder the barrel spends less time in the barrel. If you are reloading and have not try a faster powder.
@oceannavagator
@oceannavagator 3 жыл бұрын
@@thetriode Yeah well, just look at the ballistic tables for yourself, a faster burning powder makes for higher pressures in the chamber. All this can screw with your accurateness of the rifle.
@cubehubwacky9003
@cubehubwacky9003 8 ай бұрын
I like them both i will never hate on another gun they are both beast in there leage
@mixasid2464
@mixasid2464 5 ай бұрын
Great show! Man, keep up a great thing of yours!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 3 жыл бұрын
I may be behind on this but I really think a comparison or dual review on these 2 guns as budget friendly hunting rifled would be a real help to our hunting community. From you guys, your opinion has alot of weight. Thanks Chuck.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 3 жыл бұрын
I would be very interested to know which you would chose and why if you could only have one in any given caliber.
@russellsamson1828
@russellsamson1828 2 жыл бұрын
Got 243 and love it, not changing
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. Godspeed and good hunting
@ratedredneck96
@ratedredneck96 3 жыл бұрын
I love these comparison videos! I shot a box of superformance through my 6.5 and they have some nice stank behind them but never got a chance to group them and see how they stack. I did catch one first shot though and it did expand very well into milk jugs. My buddy has a .243win that i have yet to catch a bullet for him. I guess i'll ask him to borrow it and see how it does in the jugs.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah let me know how it does!!! If you've hit a video leave a link here
@ratedredneck96
@ratedredneck96 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics i dont have the superformance bullet catch on video because i was shooting with the family and its awkward to film in front of people for me still yet but i did catch the 140gr remington core lokt in 6.5 and i believe it was 150gr in .30-06 on camera. I got a lot of crap on that video for my yard being a mess but i had lost my grandfather and had to get all of his belongings off his property because trash scumbags were stealing his stuff for scrap. So in a couple videos the yard is a mess but i think i lined them out pretty good in the comments haha i have several bullet catch videos from 22mag to 12 gauge that seem to do pretty good. I really appreciate you letting me post my video links to your comments, it means a lot for the support of another fellow youtuber. I will post a link to the playlist pew pew shenanigans that should have all the videos on it but just in case they dont i will go through and make sure they are all added to the playlist. Again, thank you.
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. I noticed the lower velocity on the .243. That round was designed for a 24" barrel vs. the 22" barrel used. Having said that, I'm a big fan of the 6.5 Creedmoor.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
yeah that .243 is a bit over bored
@barrett50cal.30
@barrett50cal.30 3 жыл бұрын
I would call the .243 the winner for hunting because it seemed to dump a lot of energy quickly. Also because I feel like the penetration of the 6.5 is good for some things, but I’d rather have the round go in and, as I said, dump a lot of energy to have more area to shatter bones, rather than go through them.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Usually when it dumps a lot of energy , it doesn't cause enough blood loss. For whitetail hunting you might be fine. Anything else you'd want more penetration
@barrett50cal.30
@barrett50cal.30 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics well that’s exactly what I use it for is whitetail. And I’ve gotten a couple of spine shots that end up making a hole in the spine about 3 inches wide. Drops em pretty quick. But from my experience the .243 is a good all purpose round as long as you can get proper shot placement. But that’s just my opinion.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Proper shot placement and bullet construction are 99% of the battle. Caliber and power is only 1%
@barrett50cal.30
@barrett50cal.30 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics exactly
@miketreen7403
@miketreen7403 3 жыл бұрын
Another great test!! Came out about like I figured. 243 is a smoking little round for whitetail here in PA. Plus does double duty for woodchuck/varmints. Be really cool to see the 120 gr creedmoor and 100gr 243. Be a little closer in weights.
@Chris-uv8hq
@Chris-uv8hq 3 жыл бұрын
LOL hear in south Western Pennsylvania we use 300 win mags for 🦌 .
@miketreen7403
@miketreen7403 3 жыл бұрын
Chris I’m up in north/west. Lucky if I get a shot past 50-75 yards. Around here it’s mostly 30-30’s. The old timers think my.308 is excessive 🤣
@Chris-uv8hq
@Chris-uv8hq 3 жыл бұрын
@@miketreen7403 yeah down here cornfields and pastures easy 300 to 400 yard shots, we site in two and a half inches high at 100.🤣
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Are you shooting them at 600 yd?
@heathadams1274
@heathadams1274 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! I think 80 vs 120 gr is a terribly misleading comparison. If you are going for a true 🍎 to 🍏 comparison, the old reliable needed alittle more weight to it. I'll take me 243 any day over the fan boy round.
@jeremykrueger6434
@jeremykrueger6434 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Chuck. The problem with the .243 is it's twist is usually too slow to shoot mono metal bullets of decent sectional density. The fast twist of the 6.5's doesn't have the same issue.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense sir... Godspeed tip you and yours!
@visiter127
@visiter127 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how 243 gets a bad name from some pl, and it's just not knowing that a 243 was a varmint cartridge that pl started shooting deer with, ps love the 243 with the right twist its a beast,
@visiter127
@visiter127 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nanooky don't knowif there's an optimum, but keep the weights to 80g unless u ha e a 1n8 twist, then u can go heavier, not to say some 1n10 will shoot the 100 g hunting bullets, just not the longer target stuff
@cjberan
@cjberan 2 жыл бұрын
They are both great calibers for the majority of hunters hunting most game. Nice video to compare the differences between them.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris. Godspeed and good hunting!
@richwilcox9564
@richwilcox9564 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this test. Great info. I have both calibers. Both drop deer with well placed shots. God bless.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Rich!
@joshuamagill4342
@joshuamagill4342 3 жыл бұрын
I've killed several elk with my 243 here in New Mexico. Always does a good job of wrecking the boiler room. You can't go wrong with either one.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! What load do you use?
@supergreatairgunreviews
@supergreatairgunreviews 2 ай бұрын
This is a great video and great comparison. Both great rounds.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly.
@hedge7743
@hedge7743 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual guys, on a hot topic in my neck in the woods (TN). Keep it up, stay safe, stay healthy, shoot straight! Much love - Hedge
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
What part of Tennessee? My family is from Athens/ Cleveland
@hedge7743
@hedge7743 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I know it well Brother! We live just outside of Knoxville! Small world ain't it??
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
@@hedge7743 yes sir Go Vols
@hedge7743
@hedge7743 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Hahaha! We'll see, My Man! I'm really worried that the season will happen at all. Of course, the health of the "kids" is the most important thing, but they have already cut the allowed attendance by 75k at Neyland. Just got word that ECU just sent everyone home. Every student! God help us brother.. You ever need a place to crash in Knoxville, say the word. We've got room and we'll feed you proper food again!
@brentigo
@brentigo 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love seeing these tests. Would love to see 6.5 creed vs 6.5 swedish.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Me too but I don't have access to a 6.5x55 swede... if I get one, I'll definitely do the video.
@brentigo
@brentigo 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics That would be Great. Keep the videos coming. Big thumbs up from New Zealand.
@cbwelch4
@cbwelch4 10 ай бұрын
By the numbers the 6.5 CM is a little hotter, but they are close.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 10 ай бұрын
I do have a 6.5 creedmoor vs. 6.5x284 Norma. And a 6.5x284 Norma vs 6.5 prc video.
@cbwelch4
@cbwelch4 10 ай бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I've never seen the Norma in stores. There's lots of really great calibers you don't see a lot. I'm on the fence with 7mm-08. I like the idea a lot. Short action, flies well, has power, not that pricey. Harder to find than .308.
@mlindsay527
@mlindsay527 3 жыл бұрын
If you like to shoot thousands of rounds at the range, the 6.5 barrel (specifically the throat) will last quite a bit longer.
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 3 жыл бұрын
Well said, and the 6.5 Creedmoor has a good selection of high BC bullets for accurate long range shooting.
@ericstrabel4365
@ericstrabel4365 3 жыл бұрын
Nice videos and thanks for your comparisons! Just a little thought to make the slides better . . . round the calculated numbers off. If the chrono or scale only gives 3-4 digits, any calculation on those should also use the same number of digits.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@pine0981
@pine0981 Жыл бұрын
I've got to hand it to you. That was an awesome test. Real meat, real distance. Plenty of data. A+
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly. I appreciate it more than you know. Godspeed and good hunting to you
@commoguy25q
@commoguy25q 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I know. Between calibers weight will never be identical, but the brand and bullet type are. I have a T/C Compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and it always hits exactly where I aim.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 3 жыл бұрын
Both are great small to medium deer out to 400 yards IMO. 6.5 beats 243 in every area. But 243 is still excellent deer chambering. Even Elk & Caribou within reason. Shot placement is always critical. I choose 7mm-08 in these comparisons. Thanks Chuck.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah for hunting 7mm-08 is best low recoiling hunting round
@vernonmiller3883
@vernonmiller3883 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't checked into it, but are the rifle barrels equal length on both rifles? Seems to me if there is a variance of length, twist rate, bullet weight, powder charge there will be a significant difference. With that being said, thank you for taking the time to spur conversation, and this is great info for any and everyone. Keep them coming.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Both barrels were 22"
@garrettfobes1091
@garrettfobes1091 3 жыл бұрын
I am borrowing someone’s youth w43 it has a very short barrel and for regular deer season I need to give it back. I have been looking at getting a 6.5 creedmoor and this video gave me an idea of what it will do thanks
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome. They're both good for deer, but the 6.5 is just a bit better. Thanks for watching. Godspeed
@MrBarlien
@MrBarlien 3 жыл бұрын
6.5 for a do everything caliber, kinda like the 7mm-08. But the .243 would seem a excellent companion to a .308 or larger caliber rifle. Thinking whitetail and smaller for the .243 and 30-06 or 300 magnum for the occasional elk/moose, hog, or bear. But a 6.5 creedmoor/swedish or a 7mm08 would be a fantastic first rifle as a gift to a child or grandchild, much more so than the .243 since it's so versatile it could be the only gun they would ever need. Great video, thumbs up!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly.
@G5Hohn
@G5Hohn 3 жыл бұрын
IMO, these are the two top general purpose cartridge around for anyone looking at deer or smaller. They're just so good at so much, you could make out pretty well with either as your only rifle for a LOT of uses. The .243 with a monolithic of high sectional density can penetrate like a much larger round.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Very true sir. Thanks for watching and the comments
@dansherwood1043
@dansherwood1043 3 жыл бұрын
Deer or smaller? Nah, I've used .243 for several elk out to 400 yards. Shot placement is key!
@jacstocker7257
@jacstocker7257 3 жыл бұрын
I know a guy that hunts elk with a 243 and it works fine for him
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
With the right shot placement and bullet construction it will work.
@BornGaming32
@BornGaming32 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. These are the loads I'm looking at for my son's first deer rifle. I'm considering the Ruger American Go Wild Compact with 16.1" barrels. What should I expect for velocity and energy decrease given the barrel length? Considering bullet penetration from your 22" barrel, looks like the 6.5CM will be his gun.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I get about 75 fps more in the 6.5 in my 24" bergara than my 22" savage featured in this video. So if that holds true it's 450 fps loss. If you handload you can negate by faster burning powders and a magnum primer, just don't load to more than 80% of max with a magnum primer.
@TheSouthpawSharpshooter
@TheSouthpawSharpshooter 3 жыл бұрын
Great video brother. Love the bald eagle transitions. Lol 🇺🇸 🦅 Lots of good info!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I was very lucky to take that photo of the eagle. Thanks for watching, Godspeed!
@michaelh7527
@michaelh7527 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the .243. It's extremely effective against deer and hogs. The best part is the very light recoil. My daughter and wife absolutely hated the 30-06. But both of them have 0 issues with a .243..... For those reasons, I pick the .243. But on a side note, I don't care about recoil. My universal round is the 30-06. In my opinion, it works for any game being hunted.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Love the .30-06 killed my first caribou with one.
@michaelh7527
@michaelh7527 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I have shot plenty of deer and pig. But a Caribou? I am envious!
@randyberetta6277
@randyberetta6277 3 жыл бұрын
The Two Forty Three is in "My Opinion" absolutely the best rifle caliber of all time. Simply I Love it.!!! 🤔
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it
@robertbingham8243
@robertbingham8243 3 жыл бұрын
YES YES
@jasongonzalez8910
@jasongonzalez8910 3 жыл бұрын
It’s one of my favorites, that’s for sure!
@jdsalinger73
@jdsalinger73 7 ай бұрын
Wow. That's saying a lot. (I bet a lot of folks would disagree. Some call it barely adequate). I already have a Savage 110 in .243 and an old Winchester 30-30. Looking to buy a new rifle and I think I'll stick with .243. The comments here are about 10:1 in favor of .243. I never realized how popular and well-regarded it was. I bought it because I knew about Savage accuracy and .243 flat-shooting characteristics. But I always felt like it was a child/woman's rifle until I started researching it. I never believed the child/woman thing was legit.
@jcarry5214
@jcarry5214 3 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. It's also a really good demonstration of how critical velocity is to the success of copper bullets.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
It definitely is, though tipped ones usually perform better
@jcarry5214
@jcarry5214 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics That makes sense. I've been curious about copper bullets in 25-06 for a long time for this reason. Anything on the menu?
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
No sir, I'm gave that away in my 10k giveaway.
@ITHINKUREALESUK
@ITHINKUREALESUK 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work on this video.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 3 жыл бұрын
Don't have a 6.5 but do have a .260 Remington that I have been using for 22 yrs and it is deadly on deer. I guess I never could get into the 6.5 because the 260 has always performed so well. The 243 is a excellent deer cartridge also. Thanks for the video.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I'd live to do a 6.5 vs 260 video. Thanks for watching bro
@samgreninger6567
@samgreninger6567 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics that is a video I would like to see!
@patrickgriffitt6551
@patrickgriffitt6551 3 жыл бұрын
I guess no one remembers the 25-06. Mine did fabulously on both white tails and Julie's with either 110gr accubond or 117 gr8 factory.
@viktormogilin307
@viktormogilin307 2 жыл бұрын
26 cal is 6.5mm, the 260 rem is a 6.5/308, comparing the 2 I would go with the 260, to use the full potential of the 243 (6mm/308) you need a faster twist rate barrel & heavier projectiles, I prefer the 26 cal over the 24 cal if your game is becoming larger & ethical distances, enjoy the vids 🍻😊
@cbwelch4
@cbwelch4 10 ай бұрын
.260 is good just not as available these days and Hornady got the twist rate right out of the gate.
@lrac7751
@lrac7751 Жыл бұрын
Now that the 6 creedmoor is available, you can do an apples to apples comparison. Would be interesting to see if the faster twist rate makes a difference in penetration, or deflection
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Got one i can borrow?
@austinwaage7663
@austinwaage7663 Жыл бұрын
I just bought the 6mm Creedmoor shoots amazing and really great groups
@mikhailsiderman2191
@mikhailsiderman2191 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. I've got a part 2 with other ammo. Godspeed and Good Hunting. Merry Christmas to you and yours
@bubba7626
@bubba7626 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted a fast handleing bolt gun for the Truck so I bought a youth 243 Rem 700 18" barrel (was super cheap) . I Put a magpul hunter stock with 10 round magwell and love it. Its a great shooter from jack rabbits(70 grain) to Hogs (100 grain). That is impressive penetration though for the 6.5
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good set up!
@mholman9711
@mholman9711 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always blown away by what the indigenous people use... 243 is a very popular... just recently I was talking to a buddy from Kodiak trying to decide between a 308 and a 30- O6 and he told me to get the 30-30...... I shit you not this guy goes brown bear hunting with a 30-30 on Kodiak where he grew up.....
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Use what you have
@mholman9711
@mholman9711 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics yeah man... this guy had quite the collection of pre 64 Winchester all in 30 30.... another guy who married a native woman and lives out in one of those villages his hunting rifle is a break action 243.... both the above guys have plenty of money,,,they chose to stick with what they knew I guess... it ain't none of my business and I'd never tell somebody what to do.... it's just interesting
@johnwallace1729
@johnwallace1729 3 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket Not so , i have a .300 Rem Ultramag , A .300 Win mag , and i still cherish my reliable winchester 30-30 ! ,the grandson is getting it and i made him promise to never let it go , it stays in the family .
@MarcosCaminante
@MarcosCaminante 3 жыл бұрын
6.5 Creedmoor is the greatest cartridge no one ever needed. What does it do that the 260 Remington or 6.5x55 does not do. None of them can do anything the 7mm-08 cannot do.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed... but i have two of them and it's here to stay.
@MarcosCaminante
@MarcosCaminante 3 жыл бұрын
Alaskan Ballistics Understand completely. The Creedmoor is an excellent round. It was just a little confusing for some of us why the development was done other than it was a new shiny toy to market. I wish Remington would have been this aggressive with the 260 back in the day. Great channel. Thanks for the work!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@G5Hohn
@G5Hohn 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Walker the Creedmoor has specific advantages over the .260- it’s not just marketing. First, Remington gave the .260 a 3 degree throat, while the modern convention is now 1.5. The .260 has a standard 9 twist; creedmoor is 8tw. You can’t shoot the highest bc bullets in the SAAMI.260. The twist is too slow and the oal is too long for a standard 2.8” oal as the bullets will be seated too deeply. If one does his homework, he learns that clever marketing isn’t the reason the 6.5 succeeded where the .260 didn’t, but rather Remington screwed up the .260 the way they screwed up the .280 and 7-08.- obsolete reamer design and twist too slow. The 7-08 with a 8.5tw in a long throat could have been the single greatest all around short action cartridge ever, doing everything the .308 could do better.
@thetriode
@thetriode 3 жыл бұрын
overall probably use heavy for caliber bullets in a 308 length action. It was a niche round that broke through and became popular. 6 creed has a 40ish fps gain over 243, slightly less powder use and may have better barrel life due to the shoulder angle. The creed rounds also tend to have more modern factory loads than 243 which really needs a face lift imo
@bradh74
@bradh74 3 жыл бұрын
Did you guys do a 6 cm vs. 243 Winchester? Great videos by the way!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
No don't have a 6mm cm
@jmgates09
@jmgates09 4 ай бұрын
Binge watching all your older comparison vids at work
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 4 ай бұрын
Sweet man thanks. Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours.
@bryceletcher5326
@bryceletcher5326 3 жыл бұрын
I used to run a 85 grain boat tail hollow point at 3900 fps with my 243. I wasn't interested in penetration, I was interested in making sure that all the energy from the round was expended on the target and it was.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Up here where we have moose that will stomp you and bears that will eat you, Penetration is a factor. What load were you using for 3900 fps? That's smoking?
@bryceletcher5326
@bryceletcher5326 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Sierra 85 gn boat tail hollow point, IMR 4350 powder but I don't remember the weight. I know it was a bit over the top of the loading table but there was no sign of the bolt binding and the empty cartridges were fine for size and shape. In my Tikka it would shoot 1/2m at 100.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
That's a really deadly combo for sure
@robertbingham8243
@robertbingham8243 3 жыл бұрын
Smart make the 1 shot kill.
@RandyBeretta-db5bg
@RandyBeretta-db5bg 9 ай бұрын
💥⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐💥
@mgsharnhorst
@mgsharnhorst 3 жыл бұрын
The 6.5 CM is a fine round, but its like reinventing the wheel to me. Its sandwiched in between rounds that have been around for decades, with tiny little differences in performance. Whatever floats your boat I guess. Great marketing by the 6.5CM guys
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
It does allow for high b.c. bullets in a short action with short burning powders
@johnrafferty5266
@johnrafferty5266 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, should have shown us a 3 shoot grouping. I know the guns are different but that would be part of the debate for over one over the other, thanks for sharing.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
No because diffefent guns like different ammo. My Savage for example likes the Winchester deer season eventhough it's a terrible bullet.
@keithgregory7937
@keithgregory7937 3 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother
@Jaygorski
@Jaygorski 3 жыл бұрын
Heavier slower 6.5 will not expand as much as a faster 243., so it(the 243) won't penetrate as far.
@haroldconner2645
@haroldconner2645 3 жыл бұрын
100 grain 243 cartridge would have been a fairer comparison, in my opinion.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
But not the same kind of bullet... I'm assuming you would like see it go against a 140gr 6.5 Creedmoor... that way they both have their heaviest bullet and similar sectional density
@mdhunter1998
@mdhunter1998 Жыл бұрын
Between my children and I, we've killed close to 30 deer with the "good ole 243" and my last 6 bucks were taken with a 6.5 creedmoor here in WV / MD. I couldn't tell which one killed them more! Lol.....in my opinion both are great whitetail calibers. Great review, keep them coming!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Yeah put a well constructed bullet in the right place, and it doesn't matter what caliber you use.
@carba8606
@carba8606 3 жыл бұрын
Well done mate....from Australia
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother. I hope y'all succeed in getting your gun laws to be less restrictive
@greenyonline
@greenyonline 3 жыл бұрын
243 is the best SHTF round. 6.5 rounds/components could be hard to find while 243 has been around a long time and is relatively plentiful. If your life depends on the choice the 243 makes more sense.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
How would 6.5 be hard to find? Makes ZERO sense. It's popular but you can still find components and ammo all over the place. .243 is available too but that's because no one wants it in Alaska
@wemcal
@wemcal 3 жыл бұрын
Great video... the 6.5 is a great round, to me the .243 is a Li’l better
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Godspeed to you and yours
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Tell me what you think of episode II kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJh-Z9Wg1srenWg.html
@clovismeaux9532
@clovismeaux9532 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know. what do you think is a better bullet for close to mid range whitetail hunting? I dont want something that will just zip on through at 50 yards. I use a .243 win. Max maybe 200 yards
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
95gr federal fusion
@chadmcswain5389
@chadmcswain5389 2 жыл бұрын
The 243 was designed to be ran in 24+ inch barrels. It takes at least that much barrel length to burn all the powder. A lot of the lost game nightmare stories you here about a 243 is because they weren't running a long enough barrel. Do that same crono test with a standard 24" barrel and watch how much faster that bullet travels with just the 2 extra inches. The secret to a 243 is speed. Once you get the speed up it is extremely devestating 👍
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
And a 24" Barrel helps the 6.5 creedmoor too
@rogergoodwin374
@rogergoodwin374 3 жыл бұрын
Hey let's neck down Creed case to 243, new wild cat, or wait there's a 6 mm Creed available.
@CyborgNation83
@CyborgNation83 3 жыл бұрын
Dude check out the 6mm mongoose, basically a reshaped 223 cartridge for max case capacity and sends 243 projectiles. About as hotrod as you can safely get out of an ar15 with standard AR mags.
@pink_love_cat4928
@pink_love_cat4928 3 жыл бұрын
Im a fan of the 6.5 because it out performs my beloved 308 at longer range. but theres way more cheap ammo for the 308 thats why i have chosen it
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
That is very true sir. I think normal hunting ranges the 308 will really out perform the 6.5cm
@gsxr1189
@gsxr1189 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say there's cheap ammo for 308 or pretty anything else anymore.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
@Dino Nucci #Truth
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
@Reel-Lentless out to 300 yards absolutely does. Plus more loadings available for it, more bullet choices
@gsxr1189
@gsxr1189 3 жыл бұрын
@Reel-Lentless If you think an animal is going to notice a couple of hundred ft/lbs of energy difference at closer ranges you're on dope. 308 only has a 10% energy advantage at the muzzle and both calibers produce more than enough energy to harvest game at close ranges. However at longer ranges when the energy begins to diminish and thus is needed most 308 fails to deliver. 308 pays for that 10% energy advantage at the muzzle by being 30% behind by 1000 yards because if you think hunting is only valid reason to own a rifle then you're a fudd. But what 6.5cm does best is chap the asses of 308 owners because envy is a fickled little bitch which brings me to the nature of your comment.
@SamofCR
@SamofCR 3 жыл бұрын
I have always used 100 gn. soft point, 85gn. hollow point for coyotes. When the 6.5 is as easy to find, I will consider it. But I already have .243.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
6.5 Creedmoor way easier to find than .243 here. I'd imagine because .243 isn't great for Alaska. That's when ammo is at normal stock of course.
@kagepeterson3473
@kagepeterson3473 2 жыл бұрын
for the 243 I use Hornady American Whitetail. It has worked very well for me. It is my go to ammunition
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
I plan on testing some sometime
@johnkendall6962
@johnkendall6962 3 жыл бұрын
The room mate that used a 243 on brown bear 2 questions. Is he still with us and what bullet did he use. I can't see using the round you just shot being used on bears.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
1 yes... 2 i have no idea.... 3. This .243 round would do for in a central nervous system hit. Through the body heat shot, it'd be questionable
@cjheer6686
@cjheer6686 3 жыл бұрын
You know there are a lot of people out there that says that the bigger the better and I'm not that way lol the smaller calibers are ok in my book it's no different then using a bow it's all in the shot placement if you are not confident in ether one your not going to do well and anyone can start bitching at this statement that's fine I'm no pro by any means it's just little ol me and my opinion happy hunting guys
@johnkendall6962
@johnkendall6962 3 жыл бұрын
@@cjheer6686 But even with a bow you are going to use proper equipment. Some .243 rounds are made for varmits and almost explode in groundhogs. Not what you would want for hunting big game. I was questioning the load because of how fast the bullet opened up. While I'm sure a .243 would kill a bear, after all almost every animal on earth has been killed with a .22 long rifle at some point. PS Have your ever hunted Brown bear with a .243 because most outfitters wouldn't allow it.
@cjheer6686
@cjheer6686 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnkendall6962 oh believe me I get that I do it's for safety reasons but all I'm saying is that it's all in shot placement you even said it yourself I'm sure there isn't an animal around here that has not been killed with a 22 lol but it can be done lol that's all I'm saying ?!
@BigMerkGee
@BigMerkGee 2 жыл бұрын
That 6.5 creedmoor is a harder hitting bullet. The three deer I shot this year with it have all broke down at the exact spot they were shot at. I have two 243's that kill real good too. But as far as breaking one down; I'll give it to the 6.5!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Good shooting and good hunting to you
@BigMerkGee
@BigMerkGee 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I appreciate it, thanks!
@obbyjep7597
@obbyjep7597 3 жыл бұрын
Im intreged by the 6.5 300wby, i knowits in a differnt leage from 243, 6.5cm but have you any experiance with it?
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I've had no experience. Im sorry
@mattjubie
@mattjubie 3 жыл бұрын
I am guessing a deer would be more dead if shot with a 6.5 300wby
@davidlippert5736
@davidlippert5736 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what I enjoy more, the comparison videos or the comments! I wonder if you compared the 6.5cm to the .458 win mag, how many people would say the .458 is the better cartridge, just to spite the 6.5! Personally, I have a ton a favorite calibers, including some that I still own and shoot. Not much overlap except between the .30-06 & .270, and I am usually loathe to consider new cartridges but recently picked up a 6.5cm Bergara B-14 Hunter as my light recoil "fun" rifle. Having previously had a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle in .260rem (loved it but sold it regrettably), I wanted something similar. This previous deer season I promised to outfit a female first time hunter/rifle shooter friend and even the recoil and muzzle blast of my .270 was uncomfortable for her, so I ended up lending her the '06 with Remington low recoil ammo. I think this is one area the 6.5cm will shine. I don't compete and if I ever make it out west to hunt elk and there's a possibility of needing to make a long follow up shot, I would be toting my .300RUM model 70. Use what you like and can shoot well, choose good bullets, shot placement is everything and if you develop a flinch, shoot a brick of .22lr!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. My 6.5 creedmoor bergara took a caribou at 282 yards. 127gr barnes LRX. Good bullet, good shot placement, good eating
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