You know the pod is gonna be good when the thumbnail is Steve screaming at someone

McKinnon was nowhere near FIVE feet from the bench. He was halfway across the ice when Kadri touched the puck... It was to many men on the ice.

The first 10 mins of this was just a masterclass on carrying two thoughts at once lol

Hey man, Cooper crying or not, I'm celebrating this moment for Naz and I'm sure he and the Avs are too, games done, he got them the win

I remember watching that John Cooper press conference and not having a clue what he was talking about. It wasn't until the 80000 videos explaining the "too many men" started flying out that I was like "Oh ok, I kinda see what you're talking about."

Just love listening to you guys talking about hockey. I used to listen to every single second of your podcast. Now I have to skip those segments of native advertisement. The thing about addiction is, that there is no "responsible gaming". No disclaimer will change that.

This is how Portland, Oregon got its name. Two gentlemen arrived in the area that would become Portland. One from Boston and one from Maine and each wanted to name the new city after where they were from. The guy from Portland won and got to name the city after Portland, Maine.

Adam with the disastrous takes right out of the gate on this one, Jesse has the right of it 100%.

"I shan't get unbent" love that Steve

Speaking of Barry Trotz. After this pod was recorded, Trotz said he's going to decline the Winnipeg job.

Both the Makar and Nichushkin 2 point bets paid out... insane. Hope Jesse actually did put $10 on each.

If this happens to the leafs Jesse and Steve are up in arms like Adam

Hahaha,Jessie being a bigger baby than Cooper while complaining about Cooper

the Landeskog incident was later confirmed to be a wrong call

Dude Eric Young is a amazing wrestler was so sad to hear about the WWE layoff when it happened but been killing it in Impact.

Well I can't wait to see the talk on the next game. Cos' damn these Bolts...

Tampa had 7 players on the ice when the goal was scored lol

Common sense says that it was too many men. When Kadri skated into the play Mackinnon was 20 feet from the bench, and when he received the puck Mackinnon was about 8 feet from the bench. It's a penalty. Under no circumstance should Kadri have started to skate into the play until Mackinnon was only 5 feet away. The right call would be to negate the goal, assess a bench minor to both teams, and continue the game 4 on 4. This problem would be solved if they put a ref between the benches to call all bench minors. That way the refs on the ice can concentrate on the ice and the one on the bench can concentrate on the benches.

Ottawa is such a strange case. The entire reason the team exists is that the first owners had bought that land out in the boonies, it was a terrible deal, and they needed to find a way to make it pay. Not passion for hockey, not anything else. That all came, but it came after the initial impetus to start the team in the 90s. In Ottawa, it is widely understood that Melnyck hired someone to do a deal for the Lebreton site, they got a really good deal, but Melnyck decided to go back for a renegotiation - which you can't do with a really sticky Federal bureaucracy. And that killed that deal instantly. (Sorry don't mean to spam your comments!)

Richardson Ended his career with Ottawa. Played 4 years for the leafs, Edmonton for 6 years, Philly for 5, Columbus for 3 and at the deadline traded back to Toronto for 20 games. Then signed with Tampa, then to Ottawa. played for everyone and some far longer than the leafs. Sounds kinda funny hearing him claimed as a leaf.

I had the same questions but sports science did a thing where they put a Sumo Wrestler in goal with equipment. It’s interesting. Adam had the loudest, fakest, most pretentious laugh ever 😆

I'm so glad I put big money down on Tampa clutching out a win on Friday, thanks sports interaction

Jesse with a rare double sip action from his Boshkung glass 45:55 ✌

Every thumbnail lately has been Steve yelling something at Adam or the camera and I love it

Jesse summarized the rule but if he had read the NEXT PARAGRAPH IN THE RULEBOOK he would’ve seen that Kadri being the man who comes on for Mackinnon is not eligible to PLAY THE PUCK UNTIL MACKINNON HAS BOTH SKATES OFF THE ICE

Hey Guys! Thanks for the amazing show! Getting back on the Habs // French Speaking situation. I think that the head coach and the GM have to be able to speak french and understand the culture of Quebec. Kent Hughes is from Quebec is Anglophone, that speaks French fluently so that's why he was selected. I believe that Julian McKenzie would be eligible too to be GM or Head Coach on the Has (Montrealer / Quebecker who speaks english and french fluently). Anyway :) Thanks again for the amazing show. I'm a french/canadian hockey fan (hasb fan) following from the south of France !!!

I agree with Jesse. It was a cool moment for Kadri; plus an assist from Kuemper with an excellent game after a clunker, plus a really great OT from Colorado who ruled the OT. Wonder if this was Cooper playing the refs for tonight. We'll see!

Kadri will have been, drafted, traded, and win a cup before the maple leafs even win a series lmfao

It was the Landy mishap that got the rule changed to the five foot rule

Jesse the 6ft 5 baby lol

The wild thing about the Landeskog offside against SJ is that it shouldn't have been offside for the same reason as the Makar goal in game 1 against the Oilers. Landeskog was on the ice when the puck went in, but off by the time MacKinnon went in.

Can we get Steve's take on the Vince McMahon situation?

Winnipeg is imploding hard

I know you guys don’t meant it in a bad way but I think it’s important to clarify something. When you say Montreal only hires coaches that are from Quebec it’s false. It’s not about where you from. Its about how you can communicate with the majority of the population in their native language. Claude Julien isnt from Quebec. Bob Gainey isn’t from Quebec. Bowman was an Anglo Montrealer. What do they have in common? They could speak French. What’s wrong with learning french? Sometimes I listen to anglophones and it’s like there’s never that option. Lots of people learn languages in order to get a job around the globe. Francophones in Quebec we all need to learn English to work. Since anglophones speak the most spoken second language on the planet they don’t seem to understand that sometimes an effort is needed to show some respect to other cultures. It’s not because everybody speaks your langage that you won’t have to make an effort. Take exemple on bob Gainey, Paul Byron or pj stock. They show some interest in the French language, learned it, made the effort and that’s a great show of respect. And they are respected for it. Imagine if Toronto had a coach who didn’t speak English? In Barcelona the coach is expected to learn Catalan. Why is French in Canada different? A lot of anglos in Montreal who refuse to speak French and prefer bashing the French Quebecers are unfortunately spreading misinformation about the language situation here in Quebec. It’s not that bad and In fact French is slowly dying in North America.

Ottawa needs to move their arena downtown asap

Was a awesome call from Perry !!!! SEEMS like AVs have that type of strategy !!!! Have 1 more player to get in fast and try to score “ CATCH OFF GUARD “ !!!!!

Steve it was against the Sharks not the Blues 😂

5:02 (they might cover this I paused to type) Steve, Douchane (while on press maybe) also had this happen. He was offside by like 1 pixel while changing and got the goal called back

“Anniversary of Adam’s”…oh no….”favorite trade” oh ok

The rock hogan match is an interesting one, hogan got cheered because he hadn't been in wwe for a long time, if you watch the rematch when rock had been gone for awhile he got all the cheers despite him being the heel 2nd time rou d

Aoooo if Tampa has 7 on the ice and Colorado has 6 Adam, do they cancel each other out?!

My fav part was 54:37

No timestamps?

I love the mind trick Cooper played on the refs and Avs. Avs are more upset about his comments then they are happy about the win and Coop got that too many men on the ice call last night.

Kadri would be right there fighting for the 2nd line center on the leafs rosters since he left

According to the rules as written, its a good goal, as to how it should be its no goal. The simple rule change is that both the player retiring and the player replacing them should BOTH be within the 5ft region next to the bench which is the clear problem here, there's also the problem of there being no time limit that a player could stand in the 5ft region before actually getting on the bench.

If the 5 foot rule is a subsection of the too many men rule section of the rule book then it could be said it only applies to too many men and could mean both calls for the stl/Avs and tbl/avs. If it it a subsection of the description of line changes then the tbl/avs call is correct and stl/avs rule could be wrong. Either way it needs to be clarified.

Maine was there far before Oregon lmao

The difference, Adam, is that Tampa vs. the Islanders had 6 players IN THE PLAY, whereas Colorado had 5 in the play, and 1 at the bench, going off. Standard line change. That call will never get called unless the puck hits MacKinnon in the skate or something. I agree, Jesse, the story is Kadri going into the zone 1 on 3, and scoring against the best goalie in the league when he can barely shoot the puck! Also, Darcy Kuemper, who gets so much flak from nay-sayers, setting a new NHL record as the only goalie to register an assist on an OT winner in a SCF game! And the Raptors shouldn't have won that NBA Championship. They should have been called for 'too many men on the court'! 🤣

Noted Allan Walsh client David Perron played in Lewiston

Cooper did the right thing. He took all the heat off his players. In bringing up this non-troversy because in a 2 minute press conference that is much, much shorter than most of the ones he's done so far which should probably ring alarm bells, he has successfully taken every second of the Lightning getting torched in OT and for most of the third period entirely out of the heads of people, and replaced it with this. Masterclass work on his part. Is his "respect" and "class" in trouble? Yeah, sure, a little. But it's not gonna matter in the long term if you win Game 5.

Nashville Preds LEGEND Peter Forsberg. End of conversation :)

I think everyone needs to stop crying everyday. The lightning have won multiple times the same way and so have so many other teams. I wish people would grow up.

Basically Put Orlando Magic Shaquille O'Neal in net. Its an interesting concept.

Maine and Oregon should sit down and decide which State gets to keep the Portland city name. Shouldn't be hard, it's not like it's written in cement.

As an anglophone raised in Quebec, it’s a pretty crappy time right now. They just passed a very discriminatory bill, and Legault him self said not all cultures are equal.

Toews for Schieffle one for one calling it rn

Past games, and who got away with what, aren’t going to change. It’s another call made on the ice. Looked like a typical change that happens in every game when teams are exhausted. Expecting the changing of the Guard at Buckingham Palace in OT hockey isn’t realistic.

My problem is, while yes there's a debate to be had about the call, it's mostly irrelevant now. It didn't have any affect on the play, no reason to care anymore

*How about Game 5 makar breakaway, clearly hooked by Killorn, not a 2022 hook a 80’s hook. Potentially cost them the game/cup. Tampa has no right to complain about ANY calls.*

No time stamps?

Poor Jesse from Bardown he's probably devastated by all the Winnipeg crap

PDL informing the jets that he wants to leave in 2 years, can't sit well with the other players who are trying to build something something there. I think this puts pressure on the team to trade him now so the other players can build a trusting core. He isn't an elite player, and he's now done this in two cities, doesn't seem like a team player. Send him to Arizona for a couple of their oicks and let them deal with him for 2 years.

Kevy Chevy? Like...the Winnipeg based Indy wrestler?

I could envision Toews going to WPG for Schiefle. Works for both teams.

Adam, your point about the Habs being limited to french coaches is pretty moot, especially when guys like Bruce Boudreau, Peter Deboer and Paul Maurice get hired over and over again.

Wait until Steve find out about Kansas City 😅

LOL at the NHL to get into NFTs as crypto and NFTs are cratering! Purchasing anything digital you get nothing tangible. Give me a photo with a physical autograph, for example, not a digital picture with a digital signature. People are recognizing that a lack of something physical and tangible is a problem now.

As a Mainer still bitter about our AHL team being taken from us after hosting a team for several decades, I’ll speak to this. Portland Maine is not only older than Portland Oregon…. Portland Oregon is actually named after Portland Maine. It was named by a Mainer who travelled west. Also, Go Mariners!

Why is Adam throwing slander on Kuemper?

Not a "little" baby...BIG baby!"

Keith olbermann praise unironically

Just to put things in perspective, the Montreal coach speaks more often on tv than the prime minister. So yeah it's kind of a big deal.

WOW Adam hates the AVS. He is obviously hating and baiting in the first 10 minutes

Alright Adam, I hope you're ready for next season, I will be sending you pictures of every leafs game next season of goals scored with too many men in the same circumstances.

LOL I want to see how a SUMO wrestler would do in net. Some huge 6'8" 400 + pound guy. just fill the whole damn crease with meat-shield.

Is there something wrong with adam? is there a reason that he absolutely hates the avalanche? did he get scared by one of them as a kid and have nightmares or something? Seriously, this dude just cannot put out anything but hate for the avs, its embarrassing.

"PLD under barry trotz" I'm sad now.

The real point is how well ex Leaf players do once they leave Toronto. There is a bit of a record developing. Take note Austin Mathew’s. 🙂

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SDPN 4 LIFE WEOWWWWWWWW

as a 38 yo guy from Rimouski (where Crosby played his junior hockey) id say its not that we want only quebecers here BUT if youre an anglophone who wants to coach here, learn french...thats it....and im not asking you to write a novel but just be able to do the post game interviews and why? it shows you CARE even if deep down you probably dont and ALSO how old is the majority of the fanbase now? yes they are boomers in their 60s and 70s and is there anyone more stubborn than a 60 something boomer??....now that being said if i was the leafs id be worried for game 1 next season against the habs why? St-louis had no chance to win anything when he took over so he could not really get his legendary fire going... we all have memories of St-louis with fire in his eyes when he was still playing and the stakes were high.....now imagine how he will be next season when his team has the same chances as anyone else on day 1 ?? and imagine if he manages to put that feeling into the whole team?? this could be a crazy game

It's Jon Cooper's job to take the glory away from the other team. He's doing a perfect job.

Guys I know you're trying to get this right and show respect, but being a francophone is not at all cultural, it's just speaking French. An Ontario-raised person from Northern Ontario who spoke French would be fine, just as Kent Hughes - an anglo from the West Island - is fine at GM. There are those who are "stricter" and would insist on a francophone Quebecois, that doesn't seem to be the requirement. And the speaking French thing is cultural, but also practical. Imagine that every coach or GM quote in the media covering 75% of your audience had to be translated before putting it into print. It's just not sustainable. Anyhow I'm sad because I played Little League with Luke in Ottawa, and though we haven't had ANY contact since we were 15, it was still cool that he was a coach on my preferred team!

No time stamps

If John cooper raddled Jesse and drew. Maybe it effect other grown men like naz. Smart

jesse, your citing the wrong rule. too many men is one of the most clear rules in the rulebook. i dont understand how this is controversial. the definition at 4:15 is not applicable. as written in the rulebook it says "When a player is retiring from the ice surface and is within the fivefoot (5’) limit of his players’ bench, and his substitute is on the ice, then the retiring player shall be considered off the ice for the purpose of Rule 70 - Leaving Bench." this section jesse read has no relevance. too many men is rule 74, not 70, so this definition doesnt apply. rule 70 says "Leaving the Bench - No player may leave the players’ or penalty bench at any time during an altercation or for the purpose of starting an altercation" the definition jesse read just defines what is on or off the bench to decide if you left the bench to fight, not for too many men. rule 74 states "Too Many Men on the Ice - Players may be changed at any time during the play from the players’ bench provided that the player or players leaving the ice shall be within five feet (5') of his players’ bench and out of the play BEFORE the change is made. Refer also to Rule 71 - Premature Substitution. At the discretion of the on-ice officials, should a substituting player come onto the ice before his teammate is within the five foot (5’) limit of the players’ bench (and therefore clearly causing his team to have too many players on the ice), then a bench minor penalty may be assessed." mackinnon is not within 5 feet of the bench when kadri goes on the ice, therefore it is too many men. further, under rule 74, even if the player is within 5 feet of the bench when the change is made, the player who came on cannot play the puck until the other player is off. kadri recives the pass while mackinnon is still on the ice. "If in the course of making a substitution, either the player entering the game or the player retiring plays the puck or who checks or makes any physical contact with an opposing player while both players involved in the substitution are on the ice, then the infraction of “too many men on the ice” will be called."

NFTs as they are talked about are simple. It's companies wanting more money out of fans. It's them saying something is x value out of artificial scarcity and zero effort and selling that to consumers for said value, which the consumer can then trade on the market that the maker of NFT controls and probably takes fees on said trades. For an example there is a game called Grit. That a NFT bro company either bought or made a deal with. They had a basically $8000 horse in it, that pretty was just a horse with few pieces on it that had changing colors and there ended up being 1000 or so variations. So every one of those were "unique". But in fact it was the same horse, same animation everything. And NFT basically is a reciept of a digital art on a server that can be taken out at anytime, which in this case would be a reciept that you got a digital horse in a game for $8000. So yeah, if anyone promotes an NFT assume they have financial motivations behind it as they are(at least currently) designed for fools to part with their money. Now an NHL nft might be an unique picture of someone celebrating a win or an achievement that nobody else can have. Basically single print hockey cards without them being unique and you owning said "hockey card" just you have an NFT pointing to that picture.

WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTT?!?!?!?!?!?!? Bring back Panago Pizza!

It was too many men on both sides, and it is basically never called.

SAN JOSE!!!!!!!!!!! NOT ST LOUIS!

Mackinnon was way more than 5 ft away

1:03:44 Steve, you cannot beat Jesse up, because you're old and he is not old.

I think it's perfectly fair to say that the Kadri trade was bad back then and even worse now. What the Leafs did was trade a great player for two lesser good players. One that absolutely sucked on our team and another that has heart and has been good, but nothing great. We tend to forget that the for the last 3 years since he was traded we've been trying to get a guy that has tenacity and grit and that was Kadri on the dot. People always seem to look at trading players like trading hockey cards and completely ignore the potential players have to get better. What Dubas did was listen to the so called fans for trading him. And he listened and that trade has bit him in the ass to the max. I also don't think he would've been suspended a 3rd time if he was on the Leafs if he had a talking to and understood the repercussions of his actions. If anything I think with the spotlight of being a Leafs would've made him mature faster. Point is when your organization has talent, it's idiotic to trade it away for lesser players.

Can we get Trent Brown to do a goalie practice? He’s like 6’9 380 with dancer feet… if anyone fits your experiment that’s probably the dude

Hey gambling

MacKinnon was within the "safe zone" when Naz gets possession. Relax Adam you're making this a big deal when it isn't. It's a line change. And Steve that was against San Jose during game 7.

Possibly corrected the mistake tonight and no further discussion is needed.

I hope Naz gets the cup winner tonight 😁😁😁

jets need to trade PLD to Philly.

Okay whose comment got the chapters taken away? I liked being able to pick up where I stop listening in the car :(