This isn't like the Lindros draft and trade at all. Kid was drafted and said he was built to be a flyer then ghosted the team like he was on Twitter. No guarantee he shows up for the Ducks either

" I don't know Cutter from a hole in the wall." Torts. Classic Torts.

There's a difference between Philly's hate for Crosby and Philly's hate for someone like Cutter. We hate Crosby cause he's the best player on the rival team. It's a different level of hate when a guy openly refuses to get paid millions of dollars to be the face of your team without taking a single shift in the NHL.

Timing is everything and kudos to the Flyers for putting their foot down, trading him when his value is highest off the WJC, and got a return with a player who wants to play there. Not a Flyers fan, but a Devils fan, but you gotta respect them doing what they gotta do

Lindros situation was totally different as he told Quebec before the draft. Cutter told Flyers he was built to play for Flyers after being drafted. Also, the pieces traded away for Lindros turned out to be better value as Avs won cups.

He’ll be on the LA dodgers soon too

The isn’t the same as the Lindros saga. Eric Lindros went into the draft saying that he will not play for the Nordics. Cutter Gauthier said that he wouldn’t play for the Flyers 3 months after the draft. They aren’t the same… End of.

Get your popcorn ready when he comes to Philly for the first time 😂

Not a Flyers fan, but do want to point out that Lindros made his intention known to both the team and the public. Not some childish ghosting. With this guy and Zegras the ducks will be pretty full of personalities, that begs the question of who's there to actually play hockey except for Terry

This happening isn't as rare as you think. It's happened to the Ducks multiple times, even as recent as last year with Henry Thrun.

I haven’t seen the Flyers fanbase this United in a decade.

Excellent overview, as always. Thank you. Blowing off the Flyers when they went to speak with him in Sweden is pretty disrespectful. I fail to think of any scenario it would be justified. I think he didn't want to play for Torts and I absolutely think fellow Boston College alum Kevin Hayes was a factor in Gauthier changing his mind. As a lifelong Flyers fan, I'm excited to welcome Drysdale to the team. It will all work out in the end.

After all the fans said "I wish players had spoken about Babcock earlier," it's wild that people are criticizing a player for deciding they don't want to play in a particular organization. Pull back the media smokescreen and this is just a new college graduate realizing they don't want to flounder at a company where they're not a fit. Aside from whatever may have happened at world juniors, it's a mature decision.

I have a friend that was a top 10 pick, he said the team that picked him interviewed him 11 times. He said they asked if we play against you childhood fave team what would you do. Even stuff like foods, colors, people he liked and hated. He said it would be really hard to lie and keep it straight. Also lie not knowing who will draft you. So Quitter Gauthier was for sure interviewed many times by many teams and didnt change his mind until after the draft.

Torts response 🤣🤣🤣 guy is gold.

We don't know the understory. May be Cutter and the management already had a strained relationship. IMO, all the managers lining up to throw the kid under the bus going as far as the coach saying he doesn't know him "from a hole in the wall" (whatever that means), gives bad management vibes. Seems like everyone should be happy with the trade.

Torts is always good for a kickass quote.

I watch a lot of hockey content and this channel is 3 years old, I'm kind of pissed it was just today a video from this channel came up on as a recommended video. Great content. Great analysis and breakdowns of the game from the videos I've watched so far.

Are tickets for his Philly debut on sale yet?

Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman reported that on Tuesday that the issue stemmed from the Flyers not signing Gauthier to a contract last year. Supposedly, the team did not want a bonus overage carrying into the 2023-24 season, and that was enough to upset Gauthier ads his camp.

This is one of those things where I agree with both sides. If Gauthier doesn't want to play for Philly, he's fine to do that. Blake Wheeler didn't want to play for the Coyotes, Justin Schultz with the Ducks and Jimmy Vesey with Nashville. Unlike those situations, Philly is actually coming out way ahead because they got an NHL caliber player AND likely top 10 2nd round pick. Gauthier could have just waited till his college career was over and walked, but by making this known, the Flyers got a return. I'm also cool with Philly being mad and agree that yeah they should be happy to ship out anybody who doesn't want to be there. I don't think Torts is serious saying he doesn't know Cutter from "a hole in the wall," but if he is, that's pretty bad on his part and actually reinforces Gauthier's position of not wanting to be in Philly. Cutter's not some UDFA, he's Torts' 5th overall pick from his first year with the team. That's a guy he should be expecting big things from and be in contact with.

Oooh burn, being "Public Enemy #1 in Philly" hasn't really hurt Crosby. He has 54 goals, 71 assists vs Flyers.

Ray Bourque said he was a Habs fan when growing up in Montreal. He went on to say the day the Bruins drafted him was the day he stopped being a Habs fan. I really hope it’s not because he grew up as a Penguins fan. There are tons of players who grew up a fan of one team and go on to play for their arch rivals

Seems like that there is more to this story than him just deciding he didn't want to play for Philly. Friedman recently reported that Philly chose to not sign him two years in a row, and he told them in May of 2023 that he wanted out due to that.

Philly fans are going to love Drysdale. As far as Gauthier goes, I think Ducks fans will be very happy with this trade as well...in time. I have a feeling there is a whole lot missing that the regular fan base may never know about. Looking at any past interviews Cutter seemed genuinely excited to be with the Flyers. Something obviously happened to change that. He didn't seem like a pre-Madana type at all over the past year. Not that I could see anyway. Maybe this will all come out at some point. It would be interesting, that's for sure. Regardless. Philly is going to enjoy every bit of what Drysdale brings once he fills out and gets a little more experience.

i was at the draft in '91 with eric lindros. went to the 1990 and 1991 drafts. awesome times back then, when you could scope out different tables on the phone and figure out which franchise was talking with which etc

I just discovered your channel today and damn your content is rich varied and very insightful keep up the great content 👍

I have got to get tickets to the first game he plays against the Philadelphia Flyers! Definitely on my bucket list.

You should do a “when you piss off an entire league” and put Nick Cousins LMAO

NHL script writers are on point. Crosby on the verge of retiring the flyers fans needed a new villain

Man I never though I’d feel bad for the flyers but i do, I hope drysdale really helps you guys a ton

When this kid eventually signs or demands a trade to the Penguins every game against the Flyers will be must watch

Can I just say that I don't see the issue with this situation? I mean, if he signed and then didn't perform, it would have been worse for him and for the team with the cap and all that. I'd rather trade someone who doesn't want to play with my team rather than trying and force him into it.

Lindros got the Avalanche/Nordiques 2 cups so it all worked out. Flyers are overdue for a cup run.

It sure sounds like it's the fans in Philly who are being the big babies.

I don’t know why Flyers fans or Flyers media would be upset by this. If this young man had made up his mind that playing for Philadelphia would be miserable, for whatever reason, real or imaginary, then it’s a GOOD thing that he’s gone from the Flyers’ organization. Disgruntled employees are bad news in any place of work, especially in a team-oriented workplace. Making Cutter “public enemy #1” is pathetic and childish; Philly fans should be HAPPY that a selfish and unhappy player is gone.

I was at the game last night and missed Tippet’s goal because I was reading the headline.

Lindros let the team know beforehand that he didn’t wanna be drafted. Also lindros was right to not commit there bc they were a failing team and ended up relocating anyway. He wanted something more stable.

Lindros warned Québec not to draft him, because he wouldn't play for them. Cutter told the Flyers brass pre-draft that he was "built to be a Flyer." Then, he refused to show for camp, and ghosted Briere at World Juniors. The situations are not comparable.

Management never looks in the mirror- there is a reason for something like this. Maybe he just doesn’t want to live in Philly?

I like the guy and give the Ducks credit for a fair deal,they are the team taking the risk but I think Both teams come up roses.Philly is doing just Dandy for a team in rebuild,things are looking good there,Be Happy guys,you are doing so well without blowing the team up and that young stud from Ontario is just hitting stride and getting close to a goal a game.

Lets not forget that Peter Forsberg was drafted and traded by the Flyers in the Lindros deal. If the kid doesn't want to player for the orange and black then we don't want him.

Devils fan here. I genuinely don’t see why this is a big deal. I don’t play hockey but if I did and I ended up being drafted by the Rangers, I wouldn’t want to play for them either. So I really don’t see any issues with not wanting to play for a particular team. If anyone would like to (kindly) explain what everyone is so upset about, I’ll gladly listen, but it just really doesn’t seem like a big deal. Thoughts?

I do find it abit mad how they seemingly have no say with which team they actually want to play for anyway.

Crazy to me that Lindros gets criticism for obviously having the moral upper hand in not wanting to play for someone accused of sexual harassment -- more players should take a stance like that to not enable gross behavior in sports and imo we should praise a player for taking a stance based on morals instead of criticize them for some sort of "professionalism".....

Lindros told Quebec he didn't want to go there, this kid said he wanted Philly

Can’t help but feel like Torterella’s comment about not knowing Cutter from a hole in the wall is part of the reason he doesn’t want to join your organization. What player wants to play for a coach that can’t even recognize him as one of their top prospects who just tied for the most points at the world juniors? (Also I’m absolutely loving watching Philly fans cry about this after like 4 teams had to pass on Michkov a few months ago because he refused to play for anyone but the flyers)

Get this kid on the Penguins!

dude your videos are high quality!

i dont think Cutter really cares. he is going to be great. that said lets not try and pretend like the Flyers are some great organization that is know for developing's you players.

Jamie is a great kid, went to the same elementary school. He just always loved hockey and was always stoked to be playing

This is the opposite of Lindros. Lindros told Quebec he was not going to play for them and they took him anyways. Gauthier never said he didn't want to play for the Flyers until way after he was drafted. The comparison isn't there. It's much closer to something like PLD or Drouin being mad at where they're at.

Best explanation I've seen. Thanks!

To be fair to the kid he probably just doesn’t want to be shot in the dangerous streets of Philadelphia.

This isn't the 80s or 90s. The players have more flash and athletic abilities no doubt, but there's no metric that compares today's players to that. The Gretzkys, Lemeiuxs, dare I even say the Crosbys, Malkins and Ovis played through a way tougher physical game, and still be amazing. This will come back, hopefully no one like Scott Stevens who wanted your soul. And don't forget, Lindros was encouraged to destroy players with absolutely no respect. With the advent of harsher rules on players having less code, these kids like Bedard are gonna get hit harder and harder.

Why doesn't this kid want to play for the Flyers, an organization that's universally respected and known for its class!?! Philadelphia fans are thoughtful, loyal and renowned for their sportsmanship. Everyone know that. This franchise is synonymous with excellence as the Anaheim Ducks, Boston Bruins, Calgary Flames, Carolina Hurricanes, Chicago Blackhawks, Colorado Avalanche, Dallas Stars, Detroit Red Wings, Edmonton Oilers, Los Angeles Kings, Montreal Canadiens, New Jersey Devils, New York Islanders, New York Rangers, Pittsburgh Penguins, St Louis Blues, Tampa Bay Lightning, Vegas Golden Knights and Washington Capitals are the only teams to have won the Cup more recently than the Flyers!

There is a differrence between Lindros and Cutter. Lindros told Quebec he did not want to play for them before they drafted him, and they still drafted him. Cutter told the Flyers he wanted to be here pre draft and after draft, then switched up on them with no explantion to offer.

Yo you should make a video about Jim Montgomery’s 41-1-2 season in college and how it connects to the bruins record breaking szn

Tortorella said yesterday “I don’t know Cutter from a hole in the wall.” That says a lot. Eli Manning and John Elway both refused to play for the teams that drafted them and went on to win 4 Super Bowls between them. Gauthier won’t be afraid of the rare DUcks-FLyers game. He’ll be psyched to show he made the right decision.

Gauthier wishes he could rock those frosted tips like Lindros!

I was at the flyers penguins game as this all unfolded, got the notification and everyone and I mean EVERYONE was losing their minds over this trade.

Not sure how this compares. With everything they got for Lindros, the Nordiques/Avalanche became a force for the next ten years and won two Cups. That fanbase should love Lindros in hindsight. This simply won't make any kind of wave like that, and I would be shocked if Gauthier doesn't slow quit on every team he plays for once things get rough. Making Pierre-Luc Dubois vibes.

2 reasons for this: 1. He’s a Gen Z Superstar, and 2. He doesn’t want to get yelled at by Torts (a corollary of 1.) And, as much as you want to hate and blame him for it, it’s just the way he was trained. Most kids of a certain socioeconomic status have never even had to talk on the phone to an adult they don’t know, let alone had to deal with media and team management (both of whom will CERTAINLY have some uncomfortable questions about hanging a team out to dry) in a multi billion dollar global industry. And when you add just enough of the narcissistic entitlement necessary to become a premier talent, this is what you get (btw, it’s the same for all those kids w/o the talent and their crummy jobs in their crummy home towns).

A front office in flux, the Carter Hart situation, an abrasive coach, and a BC alum Kevin Hayes able to provide some insider info, maybe this is not as surprising as most people are realizing

I am new for NHL. Can someone explain me what is a big deal? Dude doesn't want to play with one team so he changed it for another. Nothing bad at first glance.

I'm a Canes fan, I see an Adam Fox situation here.

A big difference between Gauthier and Lindros is that Lindros made it very clear BEFORE the draft he would not play for Quebec. Gauthier said he would play for Philadelphia during the draft but some time after the draft he changes his mind.

People are hating on him for this but he took a little agency and control over his life. Players have to live where they play, if they don't want to live in a certain city then they should supported when they try to move. Lots of players have no trade clauses with lists of teams they don't want to play with, nobody gives them crap.

People making this too big a deal.

Pretty confident this is your best piece yet, and the way you ended it was phenomenal; Will be beyond interesting to watch his first game on the road against Philly.

the trade timing was hilarious though lmao

I have a feeling the Flyers dodged a bullet here.

It started off with the mispronunciation of his name. If you’re gonna draft someone (in this case your first pick!) make sure you know how to say their name properly otherwise you obviously get off on the wrong foot. Secondly, if you actually want to keep your first round draft pick on your team, make sure to put your coach in check and aligned before his first discussion with such a player. Those two things solved for in advance, he would still be a flyer today.

Love the dramatic music in the background !

The Lindros thing was a lot more public though

If he refused to play for Flyers because of Tortorella, that is insanely soft.

It's funny how they do that kind of stuff and they called it protection. Like they're doing you a favor but at the same time they're screwing you the hardest

I remember Erics first game in Quebec. They made a fortune selling Eric BEBE ( baby) sweaters at the game. He showed the end of the I own you era in the NHL. The only player i know of that built two teams when he was traded. I loved the guy and still watch some of the clips from the 90s and enjoy them just as much as then. In all sports you need the protaganist and the antagonist. This will work out too!

He seems to be embracing the villain role. Ducks may have found their next Perry.

Reminds me of the stunt Adam Fox pulled in Carolina

I'm with you with everything, 100%. Well, no. The fact that a prospect of any team mention that he is a dire hard fan of Crosby, or any fame players of that caliber, you mention it as if it was scandalous llol. "you can"t make this stuff up" you said. Like... WHAT? Do you think prospects get their memory erased when they are drafted by any random team? Let's not become stupid ON TOP of an already difficult situation. Lindros happened before social media, keep that in mind before over dramatising the choice made by litteral kids. We don't know enough to judge the decision anyway, so adding drama is just recipe for disaster. You, as someone who does content for a social media should know that more than anyone. Flyers' FANS are right to feel pissed and robbed, whatever the reason this mess happened. But outside that, let's AT LEAST know the facts before forming an informed opinion. We don't know whether Tort is the cause, so why speculate? What I find more irritating is to see the freaking same coach again and again and again and again in rotation around the league for the past decades. We also don't know what so many of them have done or saw or let happen during all those decades, let's keep that in mind; players have inside info we do not have or won't surface for a long time. Plus the way Tort himself replied to the question is so freaking passive aggressive and classless. Just say IDK and wish everyone good luck and period, next question. About a freaking kid lol, it's just pathetic I'm sorry. He knows him as little as a "hole in a wall", about the first round draft pick of the team you're coaching, who just became the MVP for a gold medal... Sure Tort, suuuure. But many love that kind of drama and BS or raging over stuff that we don't even know. Also what does Tort's performance as a coach right now have anything to do with the situation? I REALLY thought after Chicago, people would be more careful to not equate performance with a locker room that isn't a huge problem, etc. You NEVER know what is going on in a locker room. What if an incident happened recently in Philly's locker room that wasn't dealt the proper way, something that strongly force the kid's agent and himself to make such a difficult decision, knowing full well he would be crucified... Is it not more plausible than any other surface reasons you proposed? It's my guess anyway, and if I'm right I think it will be uncovered, and Tort might lose his life membership position as coach of any NHL team. Let's wait either way.

I heard on Canadian Sportscentre that Cutter grew up as a Penguins fan maybe thats why he didnt want to play there? 🤷‍♂

Lindross was a man about it. Gauthier is just a little fan boy at heart.

Damn I love Torts ❤️

Lindros made it public he would never play for the nordiques. Cutter claimed he was born to be a flyer. Big difference

Of course THIS is they Flyers video that I get. Now I'm interested to see if Cutter agrees to play in Anaheim or if he holds out one more year and tries to shop himself around as a FA.

After watching the video, I was wondering: does anyone have a video of the Lindros vs. Quebec match?

Supposedly Kevin Hayes' name was thrown into this story . The story goes that Hayes told him not to play for Torts

As a pens fan, and an avid hater of the Flyers, this is hilarious

He changed his mind about playing for the Flyers at the exact moment the Flyers pronounced his name wrong at the draft :) Ruined a special moment he has worked for all his life ;)

I like how your presenting your videos now feels like watching The Vox documentary

As a member of the Ducks he'll play one game a season in Philly. It won't matter to him at all how mad Flyers fans are at him. LA fans never forgave Rob Blake for demanding to be traded, but he continued to play at All-World level.

Professional hockey is a job. If you don't like the company you work for, you look to make a change. Why should this be any different? The draft only gives teams rights to sign, not ownership of, a player. More players should exercise their rights within the system.

Weird how both situations involve the Flyers

Maybe Adam Fox, but the Lindros situation was much different.

Lindros got crucified and he’s 10x the player this kid is. Not a good look lol

The things I would do to see this kid score 2+ in his first game at Wells Fargo. I hope he’s a stud right away

Glad the thousands of people I saw saying they wanted Bedard to do this weren't rewarded with their wish.

Lindros told Quebec he didn't want to play there before they drafted him, totally different.

Who can blame the kid for not wanting to play in front of Philly sports fans?