Brad, I know you don't have your diesel anymore but thought I would post my experiences for the others. I have a 2021 Wrangler JL Sport with the EcoDiesel engine with 32,600 miles on it. Mine is completely stock except I have Goodyear Wrangler Ultraterrain AT 265 70R17 tires. The are the same size as the original but beefier. I do have a roof rack which creates drag. I averaged 23.5 mpg for 2022 up to December 19th. That is for city, highway and off road driving of 18,969 miles. That includes 5,154 miles of pulling a 5X8 UHaul trailer that was pretty well loaded from Arizona to Virginia and back. I added 6 DEF 2.5 gallon containers this year. I have had ZERO problems with it except for the time I tried to POWER WASH a woodrat out from under the hood after camping in the White Mountains of Arizona. DON"T DO THAT!!!! (Power wash under the hood I mean). I had 17 codes that caused the engine to run rough at first and then barely run the next day as I was driving to the dealer for service. The dealer diagnosed the problem as a sensor in the DEF tank. That meant the DEF tank had to be replaced because the sensor was not separate from the tank. The dealer had the Wrangler for two weeks before coming up with that diagnosis. I asked if I could take it home while I waited for parts. They said yes but expect to have warning codes. I didn't have a single code during the several days I waited for parts but I had the tank replaced anyway. I haven't had any problems since. I love this Jeep. It sounds cool. It runs strong. I never slow down on hills. It keeps on trucking. I can put it in 4Low and 1st gear (Automatic Transmission but manual mode) and it climbs steep hills with hardly any throttle and virtually no tire spinning. I have had no D rating even though I live in Arizona and have been to Death Valley and Moab in the summer. I am not pulling a trailer(except that one trip) but many times have a fairly full roof rack because of too much gear in the Jeep when I go camping. I hope this information is helpful to your 515,000 subscribers and the others who surf your channel.

DEF: Saving the environment one plastic container at a time.

I live in Hurricane country. There is one thing that I have always noticed, there was never a long line for fuel at the diesel pump. I remember people yelling at me that the end of the gas line is way back there to which I replied as I drove by “that’s why I drive a diesel!” Definitely a BIG PRO vs con.

The noise of the diesel is the most intoxicating, addicting, and enjoyable engine note that I have ever experienced. I crave to drive my wrangler everyday because of it

Thanks for passing your thoughts on to us about yoke ride!! Much appreciated and always keep being cool!!!! Love your stuff. Worth my time.

Thanks Brad, really enjoy this portion of your experience with Diesel-powered Wranglers, Very informative, no sugarcoating, just telling it like it is.

Every time I need a solid review to help with some decision making I always land on TrailRecon video and it helps every damn time. Thank you!

Great Channel Brad, always full of great info! 1700 miles on my ecodiesel so far, runs like a champ. Moab and Alpine Loop coming up this summer!

I know this video is a year old now but I just recently ran across your channel and have been pretty much binge watching your videos. First off, thank you for not saying "DEEZUL" like so many other people do... I don't know why but it drives me nuts. Second, thank you for all your well put together videos with excellent commentary, tips, and opinions on all aspects of overlannding, including this DIESEL review.

Thanks for this review and all this info!!! I've been waiting for the 6th gen 4runner for YEARS and ended up with an Outback, lifted it with a 2" spacer lift and I'm around 24 city now with the 3.6. I've been seriously considering the ecodiesel and this is awesome! I've never owned a diesel so this info is great.

Fantastic information! Many people overlook the maintenance cost and this adds up quick. Thank you for this information!

Thanks Brad! I’ve been waiting for the honest review for the diesel!

Thanks for taking the time to do a review of the Diesel. Good information.

Awesome Video Brad!!! We are loving are eco diesel too... Can't wait to put some more miles on her. Thanks for making the review because you answered some of our questions.

Thanks Bro, I'm waiting for my new Rubicon Eco Diesel. Hope to have it this week. Then the build to come down the line. You reaffirmed what I thought about the diesel.

Excellent information as always! Thank you, and Happy Father's Day!

I have been lurking for years now and I just want to thank you for your vid’s. You are welcome in our camp any time You review of diesels hits my go button. All diesels for that matter. I really dislike them for all the reasons and some you don’t mention. The benefits by no means outweigh the liability. I am currently running a 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 SLT w/5.3. I had the cash for a HD and the sales staff said “Oh you need all that torque” . I have been off roading for my entire adult life. (45 years). Jeeps, Tacomas, Work trucks, quads, equipment, etc. I run what I run because it works. You have me excited about Jeeping again with your 392 projects keep up the good work

Thank you. I have been looking forward to this video! Happy Father’s Day.

Great insights as always Brad, thanks for taking the time to share, this is very helpful in giving me confidence that the premium I paid for my 392 may be worth it, time will inevitably have to tell with respect to my particular experience and use case. I’m already thinking of swapping out the dual mode exhaust for an auxiliary fuel tank.

Ive been waiting for this!! Happy Father's Day!

This is a great and informative video about the EcoDiesel. Thanks for this video. I absolutely love my 2020 Wrangler EcoDiesel. So I got mine March 14th of 2020, and I currently have 30,500 miles on it. It takes me to and from work daily. I've taken it to Moab UT, the San Juan mountains in Colorado, and even the Holy Cross trail. Most of these miles where on 38 Patagonia's, and those stock 3.73 gears handled wonderfully. I was nervous about going to 40's with those stock gears, and I decided to run 39 inch KM3's. Well, I'm here to tell you, after about 3k miles on the KM3's I'm no longer concerned about regearing. That torque handles the 39's just as well as the 38's! I think 40's will be the same. BTW I'm at 20.5 mpg average on my 39's.

Thanks for the review Brad. I ordered my JLUR Diesel on 6/1. Looked at the 392 but couldn't justify the added cost over the diesel and I would imagine not so great mpg. I just got home from a 6000 mile trip from NC to AZ, UT, CO and back. My 2018 JL with a 3.6 struggled over some of the mountain passes. I do have a gobi rack and rooftop tent so that turns the JL into a bigger aerodynamic brick. I'm looking for the torque and I am a diesel guy.

Brad, I want to thank you for all your videos! This specific video helped me to choose both the JT and the EcoDiesel! When I went to test drive the only EcoDiesel in a 50 mile radius, it happened to be a Rubicon... and was told there'd be at least a 3 month wait for a custom order. So, we bought her! I joke with my wife that it was her Valentine's present to me, because we got it on Feb 14th! I've noticed a HUGE difference in fuel economy between the cheaper fuel and top tier fuel. ($3.86/g vs $4.05/g) I was getting about 19mpg with the cheap stuff, and 24+ with top tier. Admittedly, I've put less than 1k miles on it, and none of that was highway. We bought it for 2 main uses: She'll be my daily driver, which includes running errands, picking up lumber, going to work, etc, and because these are all mostly short trips, I'll be taking long Sunday drives And she'll be towing our A-frame camper up from Florida to the mountains, a few times a year. Just... not necessarily during summer... I've had her for a couple weeks and absolutely love driving (and owning!) her! She's going to be the last truck I own, going to make her last another 20-30 years! So far, no regrets!

I have a ecodiesel gladiator with the Mopar lift with 37s and loving this thing.

"Should I have just waited for the 392?" That look!!!😆

Great feed back!!! Looking to get my Rubicon Eco diesel this year.

I bought an Eco-Diesel Gladiator Rubi in March and I just love it. Mine is on 37's and a 5.5" lift, the nearly instant torque right off idle when running trails is a game changer. I don't need a regear currently, but will be moving up to40s next spring. It's a mixed purpose rig, and I agree with Brad that it's Rocklanding, sort of a mix of rock crawling and remote/desolate camping with my wife and kids. We are in NorCal near the Rubicon Trail and Fordyce, each being less than 40mins from my front door. Shortly after buying it, we ran Death Valley and never saw a paved road for 6 days and 200miles. My last Jeep was a TJ and the Gladiator/JT felt a bit big at first, but we've adapted.

i drove a diesel gladiator a couple weeks ago and was really impressed with it. that's a solid power plant for the jeep line up for sure.

Diesel Pump PSA: Do not leave your vehicle sitting at a diesel pump. Don’t be lazy. Park your dang car! 😆

Thanks for your content Brad.

Great video Brad! Lots of very useful info.

Having owned the 1st gen eco diesel in a ram 1500, I loved everything about it and really loved the fuel mileage. Yes the initial shock of the first oil change was a wholly hell shock. But being your able to go twice the distance between oil changes, it isn’t to bad being able to go 9000 miles before changing the oil. Plus the oil still looks great at 9000 miles of use compared to engines of old at 5000 miles. Love your honesty of reviews, keeps me watching

Just a great review. I'm thinking of getting either a diesel Gladiator or Rubicon. You are really thoughtful and thorough. Thank you

You don’t buy a Diesel to save money. You buy it for what it can do. I have the eco-diesel in my 2020 Willys and I love it. On the DEF i always just let it get past half and I add 2.5gal. At that point it will not spill over. I have been getting about 3,000 miles to 2.5gal. Great video, keep the videos and adventures coming…..

I had a gladiator ecodiesel, i loved it compared to the gutless 3.6, i used 3 boxes of def in 10000 miles, short trips definitely you notice the regen cycles, would love to delete the emissions garbage. Volcanoes put out more emissions than all of the engines ever made in the history of the world! I am going to put a 12 valve cummins in a 90s suburban for my next adventure vehicle. peace

I enjoy watching every video on trail recon..👍

Just saw Marcos 392!! It’s exactly like the one I ordered!!

Hey Brad, here's a tip for you! When you need DEF go to a TRUCK STOP! It's pretty much ALWAYS cheaper and just like a gas pump. You just fill the tank off the pump and move on. Great vid too!

Great review, B-man: As usual, honest and comprehensive. As a guy who's owned nothing but diesels (Ram Cummins) for thirty years -- and been there/done that with engine "upgrades" ("chips," exhaust, egr-delete, injectors, fuel-pumps, etc.) I'd counsel you to reconsider the Banks install. First thing that happens, as you know, is you become "your own warranty station." Regens happen WAY more frequently because you're burning more fuel; can't cheat the basic laws of thermodynamics. Don't buy the "more power AND better mileage" B.S. Turbos -- especially variable-geometry -- soot up much faster. Check out the price of a new turbo, for giggles. I've replaced a few. Your boost is waste-gated at about 30 psi, so you'll need to address that with further upgrades. Even before Covid, there's a serious shortage of diesel techs -- especially at Jeep dealerships -- so failed injectors (etc.) can leave you driving a rental for weeks. Diesel engine parts are back-ordered forever (see: Covid). The "upgrade the diesel for more fun" journey is a trip down Alice's rabbit hole, and there are more downsides than upsides. In summary: Don't do it. PS. CA is probably the most hostile state in the USA for emissions "mods." Consider local laws and penalties. Also, "enhanced" diesels (more torque) find the weakest link in drivelines VERY fast. They eat transmissions, torque-converters, input shafts, drive-shafts, etc. at inopportune times. As a guy who's installed a few billet input shafts (after the fact), plus R&R'd a few trannies, forget trailside bandaids. Trade that beautiful Jeep for the 392. :)

I am running a diesel JL as well & Love Love Love it... It is like a bulldozer... It crawls up anything with little or no effort. At the same time, that is my biggest complaint.... It is so crazy easy to crawl anything, it almost takes the fun out of wheelin, Rock, Trail makes no difference, It is effortless. Best Jeep I have ever owned...

Very helpful Brad! Thanks!

Happy-Fathers Day sir! Did I just hear Marco “just got a 392” ?!?!?!? Cheers to him! I can’t wait until mine comes

Very helpful info and content Brad. Don't forget about fuel filter replacement cost, I would recommend Mopar def while vehicle is under still under warranty. have seen issues were codes and component failure caused by contaminated DEF fluid

Great video, Brad; very interesting and informative. 😎

I have had my Diesel Wrangler for 4 months/7,000 miles with absolutely no problems. I got it for the torque and see the improved as bonus. I am very happy with my choice. DEF is just part of living with a Diesel

Eyeing that Banks system myself. Anxious for your review.

Great content Brad! Brandon Hanline has very interesting and cool videos on the 4Xe. He even jerry-rigged his Jeep 4xe to power his house in case of a power outage, however, that is not easy and he has some strong electrical skills to accomplish this, but, still very interesting content on the 4xe.

First off love, your channel i have been watching for years your content is awesome! So I have been driving ram trucks for about five years with a 6.7 L turbo diesel and one thing that you should know is that the DEF system is only warranted if you use the Mopar DEF now the Mopar is more expensive but it has a two-year shelflife if kept between I believe it’s 45 and 75°F IN Aclimate controlled environment. If you buy in bulk from the dealership normally you can get a pretty good discount for buying 24 or more gallons at a time and you tend to get better fuel economy, and it last longer than the other off brand. Another benefit that I like in buying it in 1 gallon jugs is that it’s easier to keep your tank topped off and it’s easy to throw a couple spare gallons if you’re going to go on a long trip in the back of your truck

Love that diesel rig!!

As a fellow JLU Diesel owner, this video helped a lot. I kind of figured oil changes for this jeep weren't going to be cheap. That's ok with me. The purpose of my diesel JLU is to travel and explore the world, and I will be putting it to the test.

Shell Rotella T6 full synthetic should be readily available in San Diego for less than $60 2.5 gallons. Up in Northern CA we can find it at WalMart, Tractor Supply, Sam's Club and Costco. $14.80 Qt is crazy expensive compared to the cost for 2.5 gallons. We love your channel, high quality video and content, keep up the great work Brad!.

Regarding DEF, on my Ram I add a jug when it gets below 1/2 tank. Never anxiety about running out and never overflow. Also I never buy the DEF at the pump - it’s often contaminated and that will cause way more issues than the little bit of inconvenience. I buy the Super Tech DEF at Walmart - it’s about 1/2 the price and have never had an issue with it. All that said, I wish the pumps were more reliable. The containers are single use and that’s a lot of extra trash in the landfill.

Love it!! Now we just need to get some of our new Diesel Front Inner Fender Liners on that JL and some Axle Armor as well!

Great informative video. Thank you.

TR, great review. I love my diesel Jeep. It is so much fun to drive. The giddy up is just so unlike Jeep. I hope it sticks around. I am moving up to a Gladiator Diesel for the towing capacity next. Quick note, everything is cheaper if you move out of CA. Dang sunshine tax. Thank you for your service.

Owned my 2021 diesel JT for 6 months now, and I'd say I got very lucky with my purchase. Being part of the jeep wave program, I get 3 free oil/filter changes which is like saving $600+. I only had to add DEF once at 4k miles but I'm already at 8k now and only used 1/4 of the DEF tank so I think that'll get better over time.

Good video I love diesels I've got a VW diesel with over half a million miles on it still runs perfect 60 MPG on the highway another nice thing about diesel is it is not explosive like gasoline so you can always carry a couple of cans in the back no problem you never run out

Brad I agree with everything you said. I got my diesel gladiator last October and love it. I just had my first oil change and didn’t pay a thing. I got 4 free oil changes from the dealer. Three are though Jeep Wave program. The only complaint no way to tell exact amount of DEF.

Just watching this now, but I have a 2021 Rubicon Ecodiesel since new. almost 15k miles. Running 35s and a 2" Mopar/FOX lift. Bank's Derringer tuner. Not a single problem with the Jeep or any parts. Love the torque!

Hold up! Marco got a 392?! Ima need a video!

I own the ecodiesel jeep wrangler and have the AFE tune and pedal commander- it performs amazing!

Great review, I was seriously considering the diesel but now I'm not so sure. Maybe the less expensive turbo 4 which has more torque than the V6 and has lower overall maintenance cost is the better option for me. Also, there are 49 state legal tunes that add more torque and power if needed. Thanks for this info.

8:56 I see two album covers on the wall --- 1984 & Pyromania! Two of my favorite albums of all time. And that's a nice Jeep that you have there :)

You do an amazing job of answering everyone's questions. Obviously, I am big on on diesel, as I run a MB Sprinter, so no, I don't rock a lot of rock crawling. That said, you have one of the be channels out there. DEF is is a PIA but I don't find it that big a deal. Proper planning prevents piss poor performance....

Brad, Interesting here in the UK every fuel staton always has a diesel on each pump some times a diesel only pump but always slightly more expensive that petrol. We dont have that def tank not come across that before, just fill up and go. Drive a 3ltr Nissan Patrol also takes 9 ltrs oil which about £95 or 130$ Love the channel.

DEF is what keeps me from wanting to ever buy a newer diesel vehicle.

Banks is a very good name in Diesel tuning and they do clean tunes. You’ll like the tune plus you might get increased MPG’s.

G'day mate I liked your review Over 95% Australians love Diesel Motor in our 4wd Looking forward to seeing the chip on your Motor You'll love it Cheers Asha 👍

Excellent review!

One good thing I recently noticed about diesel is that during the recent fuel shortages every station had diesel and half of those were out of gasoline.

What...!! Marco got a 392...!! Can’t wait to see it.!!

Please do the Banks tuner asap, I am waiting on purchasing one until I hear your feedback! keep the videos coming, thank you.

Great review Brad👍

Wow been following for a while and the last year I've been on the fence- ecodiesel or 2.0 turbo-pulled the trigger this past Monday and got the 2.0 turbo-too many horror stories about the ecodiesel. Thanks great info.

This was the video I was waiting for on the eco diesel. I have been feeling a bit of buyers remorse on getting the till gas engine. I’m a diesel fan. It sounds like your dislikes are supply side/emissions related. I still need to test drive one.

Are you still running factory D44’s ? Thank you !!! Love the channel.

A year ago I was in the market for a vehicle that I could park easier than my lifted '16 Ram 1500 Quadcab 4wd Ecodiesel. My wife has an '18 Ram 2500 Crewcab 4wd Cummins. We love our diesels for all the reasons Brad likes the Wrangler with the Ecodiesel. The problem was my local dealer did not have a configuration that interested me on the lot. So I settled on a Dodge Durango GT AWD with the Tow-N-Go package. With the 3.6L, I get 22 -34mpg, depending on the weather, the road, and the velocity traveled. I figured that once the Durango was paid for. I would find a Ecodiesel Wrangler. But I agree that the 4xe just complicates the plan. If they made an Ecodiesel Power Wagon. My Ram 1500 Ecodiesel would be replaced in a heartbeat.

Trailrecon ,Bank programmer are good and they are California emissions compliance certified, have few of their programmers on my Jeep for 5 years and no check engine light problem, I had other major big brand and they always caused the check engine light to come once awhile.

Great to watch this and definitely confirmed that I won’t get the diesel. For me all the cost involved just doesn’t make sense for me personally. Totally get why some people would get it but just not what I need for the big cost difference involved.

Great review! I considered the diesel but ended up with the 4XE and I have no regrets. That 470-ft pounds of torque definitely outperforms my 2013 Wrangler. Just got back from Colorado and went over my usual backcountry passes and it performed better than I was expecting. Back home in Austin Texas, with the daily commute and driving around I rarely use gasoline so I'm going about a month per tank unless I'm going on a trip. So far so good and I would buy it again.

Still driving my 07 jku...modded and going strong at 149k miles. But family is growing and we're outgrowing our wrangler...Would love the diesel wrangler for our long overland trips...been eyeing the ram 2500 Turbo diesel or the Silverado HD Duramax.

Great video thank you!

Thanks for the info.

DEF is a PITA. Thanks for the heads up on this, but I am a diesel fan and all about swapping out the JK motor someday for one

Most all truckstops and "travel centers" have def at the pump. Maverick, Kum&Go, Quiktrip, Pilot, Flying J, Petro, T/A, Love's, etc, etc.... Just remember to keep an eye on your def levels as you travel. ALSO - VERY IMPORTANT! ---> If you live in COLD climates - during the winter when Temps drop below 10-15° - keep your def tank only half full. The def tank heater will work much better when their isn't a 5 gallon block of iced-over def to thaw. AND - if your engine requires a def "dosing" and your fluid is frozen you will get a check engine - def system warning ⚠️. You don't want that. That equals tows and $$$$ Also - you need to run Lucas Diesel Deep Clean on a regular basis. Especially in the winter or if you constantly run short trips to the store or whatever. The def dosing system will get coked up because it isn't allowed to run a full regen because it doesn't get hot enough. So get the Lucas and run a few 1-hour trips to wherever on the highway every now and then. Retired oilfield contractor with many years of newer diesel and def experience. And a ecodiesel owner myself!

Hey i don’t know if your close to any but most truck stops have DEF on pump. And it is usually cheaper that way too. Makes it a lot easier and cleaner.

This is a good option if you have a diesel pusher RV. You can fill both up at the same time. Using a TSD fuel card for both would be a great option.

I live in South Africa and have 2.8 diesel jk. Love it! Diesel is very common in SA and the jk doesn’t need def. Has lots of torque and is good on fuel on 35s. Didn’t need to regear. Love it

good video as always on this channel. Powertrain maintenance cost another tough one to swallow unless the owner does trade-ins every few years.

You should get an electric feul pump for the def tank it'll stop once it's full and its battery powered so you don't have to worry about plugging it in

Hey Master Chief, I've enjoyed your video's over the past couple of years. With the weight differential, on the diesel, ( 400lbs, ) did you put a leveling kit in? If so, what size of leveling kit did you use? Indialantic Beach, Fl.

In Australia, we call DEF AdBlue, and just to let you know if you really get stuck just add water, I hauled for a company that made this stuff one day and all they did was add some type of compound to water. The owner of the company told me if ever I fall short of a Petrol (gas) station just put a couple of liter in and you should be right, and I can tell you I have done this with no problems

Man I was really hoping to want a diesel until you got to two things: the DEF and the oil change. I currently drive an 07 Duramax (no DEF). I love the torque. Oil changes are less than $100.00. Can't imagine $250 for the oil change. Thanks for the review!

Hi Brad, from Malaysia here. All our 4x4 Trucks here are diesel, the hiluxs, Mitsubishi Triton, Isuzu Dmax etc. Our diesel here is cheaper then gas. Also we are already using the Euro 5 diesel which is much cleaner.

Many truck stops have DEF at the pump. I would recommend that. Usually cheaper too.

Bought my diesel wrangler March 2020. Oil changes free at the dealerships in Colorado. Diesel less expensive than gas currently. Also have never been to a station that does not have diesel. Must be a Cali thing. Anyhow loving my diesel as well. Cheers!

Turbo Diesel tuner usually fair very well with gains. Hoping it’s the same in this case! 🤞🏼

Thanks for a great review. I am debating on a brand new 2023 diesel wrangler. They are $8,000 off sticker. I don't drive a lot though. I've had my current vehicle 22 months and it only has 6,800 miles on it.

Brad, the DEF adds $.05 to the gallon and the oil change is 4 more qts than a 3.6 ( all approx) and the fuel consumption is 10 mpg better. The added cost for the engine pays for itself pretty quickly. I have one in a 2021 JLU Sport and its very stripped. Hard to find.

Very informative videos, keep it up. I have a 2020 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited with the 2.0 turbocharged engine and I'm very impressed. I'm hearing you say you paid $250 for an oil change. With the Jeep Wave program, my first 3 oil changes are free. Is it different for diesels?