Finally getting around to watching this. Holy cow! That’s insane performance! Great job. 👍🏻

Great video G!!! Excellent results!!! Thanks for sharing brother!!!

Thanks a lot for the effort. Appreciated very much.

Wow!! That is a huge difference and backs up the hype of M390! Thanks for sharing buddy!

Great result mate it must be nice when theory becomes reality. Well done. Atb paddy. 👍😊☘️

Wow really amazing knife!!! ^w^

So glad you’re doing these tests ! I haven’t actually ever had a knife in M390 over 60 HRC. All mine tested at or well below 60 HRC.

Great video Gerald! Just confirms what we've all been saying. That result falls right in line with the Bradford Guardian I tested in m390 that's supposedly 60-61. That did mid 300s.

Yes!! Maybe my Spyderco delica sprint run in m390 will be similar. I’m praying they did a good heat treat on it 🙏🏻🤞

Fuckin yeah!!!! Finally some damn good m390!!!!!

Great results! Has the BBS Para 3 in M390 been tested? Probably not 62 but could be close. Thank you for that impressive demo!👍

Awesome results. M390, 20CV, and 204P, when done right, should be close to, or better than S90V in overall edge retention. Your test added further proof to that claim. I know my 204P PM2 holds an edge for much longer than I expected. I hope we see more like this from Spyderco.

I have that same Sanmanru. Great little knife! Steel sux but it sharpens easy.

Is there any hardness data available on the 204P PM2s? It sounds like the 20CV PM2s are definitely on the softer side. Nice testing, thanks for the efforts!

That’s great news. Now I’m missing that knife. Haha!!!

Bento box pm2 m390 was my first spyderco. But I got the dlc coating which I regret a little but it's still beautiful.

Amazing performance! I have been fishing for something that performs like this for a while now. Just don't know where my money is worth the most. Thanks so much for upcoming budget 12c27 test! I got land 9103 for 15$.. the knife is amazing for the price.. and steel feels nice.. before I dish out for top end steel I'm really excited I got to see ganzo d2 performance and will get to see srm 12c27.. as far as I know two best steel options in sub 25$ budget range. I personally consider them as gateway steels for fresh steel entusiasts like myself, and therefore a measuring "stick" for the rest of the higher end bunch. I feel knowing their performance gives more insight into how high end steels perform. Sorry, long comment, but I have two more things to say. First, did you experience as a rule better performance from 15dps than 18dps in other steels tested so far? And second, what is the best price to performance steel you tested so far? Thanks for sharing all of these exciting results with us, it's an interesting journey! God bless.

Im back watching this after ordering the knifeworks exclusive shaman in 204p with a listed hardness of 62-63hrc. I hope it's a performer like this m390

That’s freaking awesome bro😳 wish it was on a Manix, don’t you buddy Hahahaha dude, imagine at 15 dps 🤷🏽‍♂️ I need to get my hands on some 62+

Yeah, you hit the lottery G, whatever step of the HT that is getting left out as a cost cutting measure has put a real taint on the M390 family in production knives.

Is a 61-62hrc typical for the Bento Box M390 exclusives? Looking at pulling the trigger on one.

M390 hits a sweet spot at HRC 62 and all knife companies offering M390 should run it HRC62. I have 4 Reate's and am really anticipating seeing your results, hope they live up to the expectation.

So basically what your saying is I should buy this right now

Question: Is this Para 2 in M390 the only Spyderco M390 that was tested for Rockwell hardness?

Did you have to use diamond stones. Its amazing how much difference 2 on the scale makes.

Cool. I wonder if the hrc is similar for the knifeworks 204p pm2.

keep the higher angle going,should last you forever-btw super job

My olny question would be is.. How much of a variation will you get on heat treat for "Production" knives? I would expect custom knives to be closer to the desired targets than a mass produced knife... I own a Cultroteck knife and its rated at 63HRC.. But the price difference between that and a production knife is like chalk and cheese.

Wow I didn't know spyderco would produce such a hard 62 hrc knife

Wondering how consistent the hrc is on these m390 pm2's. I have the DLT trading red g10 version.

Could you test twosuns m390 next? Great test BTW

👍s up.

@outpost76 hey man great vids. Any chance you know what the Hrc of the 20cv pm2 models?

A unicorn 🦄... Shame that we all paid for the 62HRC steele. Thanks again for the video 😎👍

I would be really interested in how they HT it. Like cryo and tempering. How exactly did they do it but probably nobody knows and I don't think spyderco would tell anybody

Damn...that's some pretty impressive m390 stuff for a huge change G, thank you for that!!! Oddly enough, you mentioned Reate. I will mention to you that KMEbrian has been telling me for awhile now that I need to check their stuff out. He's very impressed by them, so I wanted to mention that. Rock on Mr G!! 👍👍🙏🙏🙌🙌👊👊

Cut test ends at the 11:14 mark. Your welcome.

are all PM2's in M390 from bento box 62HRC?

Could you touch this up on sharpmaker ceramic stones?

You should put on the microscope. I'd like to see what the transition point looks under magnification

So, it's starting to look like Spyderco has better HRC consistency in their M390 steel then most other brands I've reviewed. Would you disagree?

Is it safe to asume that the DLT Co. M390 PM2 versión would have a similar HRC? And if the metal sheets that are sold to the production companies that are coming from the steel manufacturer are the same. Why is there such a difference in HRC between all the different knife companies? Is it because the heat treat sucks? Is the M390 steel sourced from different companies?

Imagine at 64rc haha

I dont think they are still available?) Next run?

I was told by envy is 61 or 62 idk if it really is i also have the ace biblio on the way in m390, makes me wonder. Im gonna hitu on a dm later tonight so i can send your knife back.

That’s awesome! I would like to see someone else have that m390 Rockwell tested and see what they get. Did you win the lottery or is Spyderco m390 all pretty good! Goodnight Gerald 😂

I have a 20cv DLT pm2, i wonder what hardness would be.

if the companies are running it at 57-59rc then they are probably opting for the temper which maximizes the Stainless properties of the steel. problem is that the steel has too many tempering options and unless you know what the company did.. ie specific tempering temperature to attain the hardness, then you will never know what you are getting from each company without testing. you can temper low in the 59rc for high stainresistance, or you can temper 1050f to get the highest wear, but that wear is designed for wear as a plastic die, and doesn't necessarily translate to edge holding wear... but if you dont know if they went 60rc high wear, or 60rc at 350f (nothing great) or 59rc 390f for high corrosion, then you just dont know what you are buying.. the companies need to publish their tempering cycles if you want a clue as to how the steel is going to behave. i guess once you find a company that does it how you want it, then stick with that company.. you might not want to tarnish your knives, but it would be interesting to test the 59rc product against the 62rc in a corrosion test with a drop some acidic fluid of some kind

I would be interested to see how the 20CV endela performs for you. Unfortunately for these high edge wear resistance steels spyderco seems to be the only game in town for proper HT.

Do you think the para 3 in m390 from bento is the same hardness?

So this did better than k390?!

Looking to test the 20CV from the DLT trading Manix 2?

who is this kurt fellow you always speak of ? lol. and can anyone send him stuff to test?

Good D2 is just as hard

maserin m390 good?

Talking to the manager of Saint Nick's yesterday he told me dealer can choose Rockwell as long as it's within range of the steels capabilities. I'm guessing your knife may be a result of this being an exclusive to Bento Box.

I prefer the Tenacious from Walmart

This is just misinformation man, you are only testing hrc and not steel properties. Once you get past manufacturer burnt edge and geometry hrc is king in fine edge, which is all you test. A working edge goes much more than cutting paper. An edge is a working edge until it turns into a wedge. You are glossing over toughness, stability, chipping, etc.. essentially you are just testing what holds a razor edge the longest.