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670cc Harbor Freight motor strikes again ENGINE SWAP!

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Today, we put some more laps in on the newly installed 670cc predator motor purchased from you're local Harbor Freight store. Out of the box the som gun had some issues. In this video we discuss what those issues are and how we fixed them. We are a little up in the air on the swap in terms of "is it worth it". The 420cc motor just fits and runs in carts so well. What do you think? Please leave a comment and subscribe. It really does help.
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@TaylorMadejdm1975
@TaylorMadejdm1975 Жыл бұрын
Now take that motor over to "Redbeards" and let him rebuild it for you (with the billet rod/ converter etc) and you'll really be flying! 👍
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
That's Fair! We love RedBeard!
@JDfromtheFEE
@JDfromtheFEE 22 күн бұрын
I like how you don’t spend 4 hours blabbing and do some random action shots in between it makes the videos so much more watchable than other people
@ratfinkron5793
@ratfinkron5793 3 ай бұрын
did my cart moons ago with a 24hp honda with 6 to1 gears no loss of torque hitting top around 45 to 49 cart still runs strong I have a upgraded clutch to
@davidreasons9730
@davidreasons9730 3 ай бұрын
I I have the Honda 670 GX. What kind of clutch did you put on yours?
@ratfinkron5793
@ratfinkron5793 3 ай бұрын
it was so long ago i cant remember but its the best drive clutch ever, i can put a vid of the cart on my channel if you want i will show you all the stuff
@learnworshipguitar
@learnworshipguitar Ай бұрын
Hey curious, did you remove the governor inside the motor on this? I have a stock 670 in a txt, stock rear end, 23 inch tires and I get about 32 mph top speed and was able to tune the stock carb pretty well.
@fleamine
@fleamine Жыл бұрын
Cars and Cameras channel has videos on this engine you used for the golf cart. They modded their engine for top speed. It might help you or give some new ideas with any issues you might have. I believe in 1 video they changed the engine pully to snowmobile pully for better performance as well. Interesting video, Thx) for sharing.
@FoxtrotUniformCharlieKilo774
@FoxtrotUniformCharlieKilo774 11 ай бұрын
You have to tune the clutching. Without changing that you could LS swap it and it wouldn't be faster.
@chriscadman5715
@chriscadman5715 4 ай бұрын
How do you do that on a Comet driver clutch or a ClubCar driven clutch?
@Matt1exp
@Matt1exp Жыл бұрын
0:27 its funny how thats right by my house, that coney island and the corner store
@1620GarageAndFarm
@1620GarageAndFarm Жыл бұрын
Nice build.. I swapped a Harbor Freight Predator 459cc into my bristers (American land masters ) UTV ... I may go back and 670 swap it ...
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
How does the 459cc run? I have been wondering about that motor i seen a few swaps into carts.
@patmoloney2788
@patmoloney2788 Жыл бұрын
Time for some billet 670cc upgrades
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
Fair assessment my good friend!
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
Nah thinking like 600cc next.
@JamesRoberts-hu5ft
@JamesRoberts-hu5ft 2 ай бұрын
Can a starter be added so when I step on the pedal it starts?
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Ай бұрын
Its possible. We have not put one on a 670cc. We have put them on the 420/459 engines.
@bazinga4202
@bazinga4202 10 ай бұрын
Remove the governor and tune the carb they're going to go a lot faster I've got a 212 predator that does 50
@mattfreimark5248
@mattfreimark5248 Жыл бұрын
I've got an EZGO I picked up not running (feels like the engine is seized) that I was planning on doing a 670 swap on but then noticed how much cheaper the 420 is. Now that I've watched this I'm really on the fence. Granted if I'm doing the swap there will likely be some performance 670 parts and a gearing change so that has to be factored in. With the 670 it seems you can make it better but with the 420 there aren't really performance parts available. Also a note on the Mikuni, the round slide is probably a better choice for this application, the flat slides are really a "racing" carb that are hard to tune down low. Round slide sacrifices some top end but are more of a street carb, and like you said, the gears are really the limiting factor on top speed, so what are you really sacrificing with a round slide. (This is just my experience with Mikuni carbs in motorcycles.)
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
Really depends on what your overall goal is. The 420 is the better all around replacement if you are just cruising. You will not get the same power out of it of course. The 670 is fun and has a lot of torque. The carb swap we just used what performance 670 has available. I assume with them doing everything for this engine they have done the testing to see what performs best on the engine.
@standurst8762
@standurst8762 9 ай бұрын
The 420 allows you to keel the gas pedal starter and our old G2 Yamaha with the 420 will run 30mph
@brocco5107
@brocco5107 7 ай бұрын
My favorite part is around 8:47. I have heard that sound a thousand times. He just does it better.
@JOHNWMZICK
@JOHNWMZICK 3 ай бұрын
I'm in the process of putting in a 670 in my ezgo "dump" cart. What size belt did you use? In my other life I build drag cars and some local fabrication. So far this has been a real P.I.A., but we use the cart for everything around the shop, and that P.O.S. Robbin just pissed me off, it's so complicated for a putt putt. But I will finish this but I am going to try to put on a car 2bbl carb. Any ideas? Thanks' for your videos! Jack & Oleta, Von ZICK RACING ENTERPRIZES, Winter Haven, FL.
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Ай бұрын
Jack watch this video for carb ideas for the 670. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i5l6nKp_q5PaqJc.html Belts can be purchased at vegas carts. I would get the motor in there and measurer for right belt length. Make sure you try to find something with the same width for the ezgo. They have a wider secondary clutch.
@blackscreenstories3704
@blackscreenstories3704 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the motorcycle inside cheech and chong's house😂😂❤❤❤❤
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
Bro i just looked this up. and laughed too hard. You win
@sharptoothtrex4486
@sharptoothtrex4486 Жыл бұрын
Great one having 22 horsepower in a homemade golf cart like car. Even greater on my cruiser bike or custom homemade single gear, key ignition motorcycle is a must option.
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@Bevenstoomer
@Bevenstoomer Жыл бұрын
Dude this is awesome I wanna do this to my Yamaha
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
You can do it!
@Bevenstoomer
@Bevenstoomer Жыл бұрын
@@CartPerformance idk I have a 2018 drive 2 looks like it’s gonna be tricky but I’m gonna try it lol
@davidreasons9730
@davidreasons9730 3 ай бұрын
Same problems carburetor oh my gosh, this carburetor I got the Honda gx670 pretty much the same thing as the predator except it's made in Japan. So better made better product. But I'm still having the same issues with the carburetor constantly. Either it's too lean or too rich. It's not I don't have. I have it in a golf cart. It's not a generator so same problem
@MickeyBelanger-ve3rl
@MickeyBelanger-ve3rl 5 ай бұрын
Take out oil sensor
@c3ns0r3d5
@c3ns0r3d5 Жыл бұрын
Put a liter bike motor in one, with a quick shifter. 😀
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
What cc? How did it run?
@michaelcarrier103
@michaelcarrier103 Жыл бұрын
​@@CartPerformancehe's saying you should. And Cletus McFarland did it and it ran like a bat out of hell
@Edmonchuck
@Edmonchuck 11 ай бұрын
Interesting summary. I was looking at this 670 conversion for a Carryall 272, but was worried about the ass pain of such a conversion. After listening to you two, I am not going to do it. I was afraid of all the mod this, tweak that, fuck with this, add to that, law of diminishing returns issues you get with a lot of engine swaps. My bad place is that the Kawasaki FE400D engine in this cart is such a unicorn. There seems to be no performance parts for it at all.
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance 11 ай бұрын
What year is your carryall? We just completed a 459 swap and are working on the video. The 459 did pretty much everything it needed to do. It has the torque for a working cart. Top speed was the same as the 670 with a stock geared rear end.
@codemaster3696
@codemaster3696 25 күн бұрын
Of course it's the same top speed the motor is not turning any faster RPM. With the increased power you can now change your gear ratio
@tommerrow7006
@tommerrow7006 Жыл бұрын
Having the same problem with carb. So performance 670 here we come
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
There is no other way lol. Night and day difference.
@stownsend-1965
@stownsend-1965 9 күн бұрын
I have the 670 on a yamaha cart. Keeps shredding belts. Any idea on why
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance 5 күн бұрын
How is the alignment from the secondary to the primary!? The belt should not be to TIGHT!
@stownsend-1965
@stownsend-1965 5 күн бұрын
It was lose when I bought it, guy seemed mechanically inclined, had a nice shop and good tools. Test drove, fine, got home rode around block and it shredded the new belt. Alignment seems off, 1/2" don't see how to adjust
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance 2 күн бұрын
@@stownsend-1965 If you have the correct engine mounting plate it should have adjustability. Go to 29:14 in this video we talk about belt alignment. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ga12mtRjzdi9fYE.html&lc=UgzKST_FF5X3H6wMM6J4AaABAg
@davidvandermost5219
@davidvandermost5219 Жыл бұрын
What is the carb. Number you bought from performance?
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 Жыл бұрын
BADASS !
@codywhelchel
@codywhelchel 5 ай бұрын
What is the upgraded motor you guys suggested going with?
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance 4 ай бұрын
459 or 420
@codywhelchel
@codywhelchel 4 ай бұрын
@@CartPerformanceI thought y’all were saying that it would be better to just go with the upgraded motor to start meaning there was another option from someone.
@chriscadman5715
@chriscadman5715 4 ай бұрын
How do you get it to go slow for giving the kids a ride around the block?
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance 4 ай бұрын
Its hard with the 670cc. Doesn't like to run at low throttle. Also tuning was really hard on this engine. I would suggest a 459 or 420 if you have not done the swap already. If you have the easiest way i can think of is a throttle stop by the pedal.
@chriscadman5715
@chriscadman5715 4 ай бұрын
@@CartPerformance Thanks for the good advice!
@monteagudojonathan
@monteagudojonathan 6 ай бұрын
What wheels and tires are those
@fryloc359
@fryloc359 3 ай бұрын
What year is this cart?
@deannawoods4654
@deannawoods4654 7 ай бұрын
What did you do to have it charge the battery?
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance 7 ай бұрын
Motor puts out a small charge to keep the battery charge. If you are running accessories alternator is the best route.
@miguelescalante6436
@miguelescalante6436 Жыл бұрын
What gear box was used for the reverse???
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
Stock club car rear end
@miguelescalante6436
@miguelescalante6436 Жыл бұрын
Picture or link?
@zakvoges6995
@zakvoges6995 3 ай бұрын
So it's technically in reverse to go forward? I'm dropping a kohler ch18s with the front pto shaft 4 bolt flange into a 2004 Clubcar DS. Pto shaft will make it spin the clutch the right direction because the kawasaki engines spin CW.
@MrBootre1989
@MrBootre1989 Жыл бұрын
Needs an air filter too, too much air and not enough fuel causing it to cough on initial hit.
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
We did order one it did help on the initial hit. That's when it pulled the wheelie still has some issues on take offs sometimes you have to pedal it.
@bamabanshee736
@bamabanshee736 3 ай бұрын
Needs a carb with an accelerator pump
@zakvoges6995
@zakvoges6995 3 ай бұрын
Kohler ch18s has a pumper in the stock carb and rips off the line from idle to full throttle.
@bobbycuesroadhouse2204
@bobbycuesroadhouse2204 Жыл бұрын
Small engines need the air filter restrictions to run right
@nagadsby9413
@nagadsby9413 Жыл бұрын
Jet it properly, and you can run any air filter you would like.
@willpittman1662
@willpittman1662 Жыл бұрын
Old Harley golf cart to a 750 Honda mud bug 4 carbs to much lol
@CartPerformance
@CartPerformance Жыл бұрын
Send us a video we would love to see it! Bmcgolfcarts@gmail.com
@johnguerrero280
@johnguerrero280 Жыл бұрын
I’m Sold!!
THIS ENGINE SWAP WAS INSANEIER! 459cc INSTALL!!!
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