2020 S1000RR vs 2017 S1000RR rider review

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2020 S1000RR vs 2017 S1000RR rider review

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6Tdegrees

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@Braselton21 5 жыл бұрын

The "0ld"BMW S1000RR & Lambo Aventador will always be the definition of a Superbike/Supercar :D

@sanskar6639 4 жыл бұрын

Not lambo ...supra

@hdahir545 4 жыл бұрын

No lambo No supra It will be 458 italia

@wanderer54796 3 жыл бұрын

Each to their own 👍

@tyoyusuf8501 3 жыл бұрын

Yes supra with v12 cylinder engine

@zodiac8786 3 жыл бұрын

@@sanskar6639 supra is not a supercar it's a sportscar I love supras but stock they are slow

@prashan_1hakuri 5 жыл бұрын

The old one looks good in my opinion

@zillboy 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, totally agree.

@prashan_1hakuri 4 жыл бұрын

zillBoy the newer one looks awkward

@oaksoldier45 4 жыл бұрын

The new one "looks" Japanese- and not BMW IMO-

@TinkleAssify 4 жыл бұрын

Wish they kept that asymmetrical design. It's quite unique to BMW.

@PynkPwny 4 жыл бұрын

This was the biggest mistake the asymmetrical design was the best part of the bike.

@mrBIGego 5 жыл бұрын

Nice to see some regular riders doing the review

@christopheralonge7758 4 жыл бұрын

The 2015/2016 model is still the best out of ALL of the generations of the S 1000 rr. Especially for. Reliability

@MrGaz555 3 жыл бұрын

and its the only years to have no big CAT on the exhaust, just nice little sport ones with very little restriction

@gj8128 3 жыл бұрын

I just bought a 2016!! In love

@christopheralonge7758 3 жыл бұрын

@@gj8128 bro I have owned a 2015 and two 2016 bmw s 1000rr. I should NEVER ever got rid of them. To this day this model is still the best all around sportbike. No contest . And I have owned all gixxers zx10s R1 s and Hondas. The 2016 s 1000rr dominates them all in HP and torque and comfort

@YaHsServent 6 ай бұрын

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@eddiet204 4 жыл бұрын

I think it’s safe to say that 99% of the buyers of these bikes lack the skill set to be able to appreciate the differences between the two of these bikes. I own the 2017, mostly on the track and an occasional road ride, and I think it’s beyond the majority of riders.

@Tomygfender 4 жыл бұрын

I can confirm that the cruise control doesn’t switch off when you lift your hand off. So it must of been a thing with the bike you tested. Oh by the way great review

@NathanHolritz 5 жыл бұрын

Props for mixing up the review game, and bringing in everyday folk to ride. Love the format! Cheers!

@AntashDhiman 4 жыл бұрын

The asymmetric design was what made it looked so good but now its gone ,so is its one of the best highlights

@grungysquash1 5 жыл бұрын

As a 16 RR owner in Sydney great to see an Ausi comparison, surprised about the cruise control never heard of that in any other review? The bikes are awesome and lethal to licenses but brilliant on the track, fantastic on the Oxley while enjoyable on a normal cruise. Great video well done.

@raymadani270 3 жыл бұрын

Don't fall for the badge, I regret selling my CBR1000rr 2017 and purchasing a 2020 S1000RR race edition. The bike is jerky in the first gear, shitty clutch with no gradual friction range, gets super hot at every traffic light, turning radius is too large, seat height is not what you think, won't start before you try it a few times (software issue), paint varnish is too thin so it needs further treatment if you don't want scratches, the engine is vibrating like shit (numb hands after a couple of hours is guaranteed), mirrors are useless duo the bike vibration, bulky and wide fuel tank, navigation app sucks (always lagging so good luck finding your exact turn), the front brake has a savage bite KZfaq is full of crap which results in losing the hard-earned money . be careful, please It is only a good bike for the track and not for commuting or weekend joyride PLUS, YOU DON'T GET TO RIDE IT BEFORE YOU PAY IT IN FULL

@ayowser01 4 күн бұрын

Sweet sweet music to a Honda afficionado's ears 😊

@farshidchinwalla3718 5 жыл бұрын

Hi guys I'm from Mumbai - India.... great review..... However iv had a good test ride experience on the 2020 s1000rr M sport version and especially the cruise control... Infact after setting it to the desired speed iv left the throttle bar and it went on at the same set speed.... Probably some glitch in the software of the Motorcycle you'll had.... Another feature was the cruise control memory where firing the cruise control mode of you increase the speed and let go of the throttle it comes back to the cruise control speed that it was originally set at... So a really great feature... Once again good review and safe riding

@sunnyGsss 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys! Im glad ive found fellow down to earth aussie’s that talk about bikes with a realistic no bullshit aproach. good onya’s keep up the good content!

@rogase68 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve had my M for a few months and done 3000 km. The cruise on your test bike is faulty. It works just fine. The clutch uptake is very fussy but it is something you get used to after a while. The bike is viby especially compared to my old cbr which was super smooth. I put a set of Evotech bar ends on which helped quite a bit. Dynamically the bike is outstanding and the level of grip is awesome. I’ve been riding in Victoria in cold conditions mainly but it still feels like it will just stick. Awesome machine.

@raymadani270 4 жыл бұрын

Hey mate, do you reckon it is worth trading my 2017 fireblade for the new s1000rr ? I mainly go to reefton for a ride

@rogase68 4 жыл бұрын

@@raymadani270 ha of course it is. I remember riding a s1000rr 17 and was blown away how much better is was than my 08 Blade, then this review shows you how much better the new model is again. When I got the new bike I cant tell you how different it felt. So light and agile. It just wants to dive into corners. The other thing I like about is its versatile. Pro race modes allow you to dial in what you want. I have one mode set up where I have no wheelie control so I can power wheelie out of cnrs yet you still have traction control to keep things safe mid cnr. Feeling tired just put it in rain mode and is nice and supple with a soft throttle and cruise control to boot. At the stiffer end of the spectrum in Race Pro it feels as sharp as my old race bikes. I put a full system on it and it is now as light or lighter than a 600. The top end of this bike is something else. Scary fast and not usable on the road. You need to be at Phillip Island

@raymadani270 4 жыл бұрын

@@rogase68 It is very kind of you to take time and answer my question. I'm visiting Doncaster BMW this weekend to see what are my option. Do you mind if I ask one more question? is the engine and mirror vibration too bad ? (compared to 2017-2019 cbr1000rr) Cheers

@rogase68 4 жыл бұрын

@@raymadani270 it does vibrate more than a CBR but bar ends made a big difference. Day to day its okay as it only gets higher above 9000 rpm and when you start getting up that high vibration is the last think you are really thinking about!!

@raymadani270 4 жыл бұрын

@@rogase68 well said mate at that rev range, life is already on the line

@robtno1 4 жыл бұрын

The 19/2020 is night and day far more precise on throttle it’s lethal but fun! To me the bike looks unfinished it needs a belly pan and the swing up looks like not much design went into it. It’s still a good looking bike but the riding position is far different to the older version ! Personally I found the 15/16’a where the best so comfy you could tour on it ! I have one on order but now the v2 has come out I’m considering that, only issue is how reliable will the Ducati be I’ve heard some stories but I guess every brand has issues .

@tysoncott7402 4 жыл бұрын

Great review guys & gals, its nice to see normal folks doing these type of tests & not some mark marquez sized fella. With that said i will take the older gen S1000RR anyday over the new gen, the looks just dont do it for me on the 2020

@myworldnews7648 4 жыл бұрын

Mix of Ducati and honda . Old pretty awesome

@brettbubbles3732 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I had the 2012 model and loved it. the indicators did turn off after 10 sec. question is do i get a 2020 or 2018? as my next bike.

@badass1g 4 жыл бұрын

The way she was rolling her helmet around on the tank of the 2020 omg man 😤 teach that girl some respect

@hfr8343 4 жыл бұрын

Her gloves were between the tank and her helmet

@trevorgroeneveld1355 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen on a bmw letterhead a dealership memo explaining the delay in deliveries of the 2020 is due to a halt in production due to a third party supplied component issue. I guess at some stage we will find out more. Looks like they’ll be back on track in a few months time and start clearing the backlog. There’s still issues with the US delivered bikes due to emission driven detuning of the bike in the low range rpm. My plan is to wait until the 2nd gen bike comes out and they’ve sorted the gremlins out of it. I figure that’s 12 months away. Hopefully not that long.

@raffez2270 4 жыл бұрын

the cruise control is designed like that for safety reasons. its so you are only holding the bar not twisting and gripping for long periods.

@vince2037 4 жыл бұрын

"Old is gold" I love old look😍😍😘

@samh3467 5 жыл бұрын

I test rode the M version a few weeks back and never had that problem with the cruise control shutting off when removing my hand off the throttle. Just wish they would hurry up and deliver mine 10 months and counting!!!!

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

Sam H thank god! I was hoping that wasn’t the case otherwise why would be point of having it in the first place.

@q801979 5 жыл бұрын

My 2020 dose not have this issue

@TheShahir362 4 жыл бұрын

Awesom. This is not a review, this is Reviews. One video for a lot

@jeanpauljansen7329 4 жыл бұрын

Have ridden the old 2017 in same configuration and new 2020 in M and normal version with HP wheels only the M with carbon wheels make a difference. Specifically regarding the steering. It is way more light. Powerwise the old with a full akra is as fast as the new one. Also in the midrange when mapped. But indeed standard vs standard the 2020 has more midrange grunt. Also some 500 rpm more on the top end. Very negative re the 2020 is that it has a lot more vibrations and the engine makes more noise. Still in my opinion the old one looks more special.

@rogase68 5 жыл бұрын

Stumbled across your channel. Fun review with lots of opinions. Good work

@rzu7120 5 жыл бұрын

They've screwed up the tuning on the U.S. version of the bike, giving it a big flat spot in power in the mid-range in the lower gears.

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

R Zu yeah I heard about that! What gives? Is it due to emissions or?

@rzu7120 5 жыл бұрын

@@6tdegrees I don't know, but I saw a KZfaq video where they reflash the bike, and it gains up to 40 hp(!) mid-range power.

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

That’s crazy!! 40hp difference 🤦‍♂️

@BlueRage 4 жыл бұрын

To keep the decibels below 97 in the lower gears. Only way to get the bike into the US market.

@philroy818 3 жыл бұрын

Love my 2016 RR - love it marry it. Brilliant bike

@simotofoto 5 жыл бұрын

The old ones do have self canceling indicators they just take an age to cancel

@Aussie445 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video guys, highly entertaining and informative!

@drewmartinez2578 3 жыл бұрын

Old model looks like a shark new model looks like a lady bug you pick

@elmapaxe Жыл бұрын

this is like watching the grown up version of kids next door

@1Quick6 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid as always guys keep up the good work

@anw7669 Жыл бұрын

Even tho it's old the 1st gen s1000rr will always be my favourite sbk

@AutoManuals 4 жыл бұрын

Love the channel.. Love the test/review. Subbed, Liked and shared on our social media.

@staticage 4 жыл бұрын

2017 does have self cancelling indicators...

@aao331 4 жыл бұрын

Yes it does have them. Mine self cancels them after about 250m.

@Largoww 5 жыл бұрын

Great vid guys! Funny and informative. Being a tall guy myself, can you tell me how tall Adam is? Thanks!

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

I believe Adam is 6 foot 2

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry 6.4

@Largoww 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks !

@Bredaxe 5 жыл бұрын

Those Hayes brakes are still pretty good. I think they're a little more forgiving than the Brembo badged brakes.

@ThamjithThaha 4 жыл бұрын

old is gold

@EZLANI 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a great review! Greetings from cold Sweden!

@DragosNicolaeRadoi 4 жыл бұрын

Regarding the cruise control, I have the 2020 M model and it stays on when I take my right hand off the handle bar.

@stevealperstein8836 4 жыл бұрын

I have the 2019 M, the cruise control doesn't require one to keep one's right hand on the bar, not sure why your bike seemed to require it.

@Luckky-13 4 жыл бұрын

2020 AMAZING! MY DREAM BIKE!

@bhargabdhali8852 4 жыл бұрын

Same

@mohammadnadeemasifmohammad399 4 жыл бұрын

New model BMW S1000RR 2020 best design and good looking bike

@andreaswoehlms2783 4 жыл бұрын

I am from Germany..... here we say..... vielen Dank für den geilen Vergleich.

@6tdegrees 4 жыл бұрын

Andreas Woehlms Vielen Dank 😊

@suspensefulness Жыл бұрын

man i really gotta chance to grab either a 2016 s1000rr or 2020 s1000rr ,i dont know which way to go😩

@ThrottleJunkie31415 5 жыл бұрын

I have the 2017 MY. If the 2020 MY cruise control requires constant pressure on the throttle then pass...I travel 20 miles each way on freeways to get to the twisties hands free CRUISING! Nuff said!

@karmabrothercat 4 жыл бұрын

Great review guys. Thanks for sharing.

@mahamza86 5 жыл бұрын

Just seeing that intro made me subscribe to your channel. Good job.

@sheslop888 4 жыл бұрын

Had that 2020 been through it's first service? How do the seat heights compare? The 2020 looked lower to me. As far as looks go, I think the 2017 looked better, but I think that red on the 2020 is not the best colour scheme.

@92RB20Monster 4 жыл бұрын

Did you not pay attention? They did a full side by side measurement comparison,the 2020 has a slightly higher seat.

@aeror115 5 жыл бұрын

Cool test guys! I like the new design 🏁 Cheers

@wallacemiranda373 Жыл бұрын

Old is gold 🥇

@gw4717 Жыл бұрын

I'd take my 2020 zx10r any day of the week such a great bike

@ivymash940 4 жыл бұрын

Which version of BMW is faster?

@OMAR-gl9cp 4 жыл бұрын

I love those bike wow bmw s1000rr world class motorcycle

@mohammadnadeemasifmohammad399 4 жыл бұрын

BMW S1000RR 2020 Original silencer is best sound but other so bad design and sound

@carlous8186 4 жыл бұрын

What’s that at 0:14 ? Is it a tank gear indicator?

@Kurlach 5 жыл бұрын

Love my M Sport. You also get the BMW racing colours and rider pro modes. As for the clutch, you get used to it. I have the M Sport levers and it helps a lot. Also never had a single problem with the cruise control, mine doesn’t do that 🤷🏻‍♂️

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

Kurlach just keep an eye on it 😉

@simotofoto 4 жыл бұрын

Hi you get the rider pro modes on the Sport also :)

@jhongadlaon906 4 жыл бұрын

great job guys... entertaining and informative...

@shouldicallyoumista1167 4 жыл бұрын

This was a fkn awesome video! How come u guys have so few subs?

@Dranreb865 Ай бұрын

Because they're corny

@Kneedragon1962 5 жыл бұрын

Subscription added. That's one of my favourite pieces of road in the world.... Go up and down there a bit for high speed handling and cornering, then ride up the hill to the top, to test gradually tighter & steeper stuff. Then turn around and go back down, to test closed throttle and tightening radius and downhill off camber and... All that takes maybe an hour, but by the end, you will know most of what there is to know about the way that bike handles. Throw in a track day, let's say Qld Raceway or Morgan Pk would be better, and you have really done a test. This one is also very nice... www.google.com/maps/dir/-27.1944627,152.8260692/-26.7583428,152.852757/Montville/@-26.9808232,152.6144229,10.5z/data=!4m10!4m9!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x6b9381071bd89629:0x502a35af3deabf0!2m2!1d152.883333!2d-26.683333!3e0?hl=en

@labmalin9786 2 жыл бұрын

My Dream BMW s1000rr 2018❤️❤️

@alafsialpha1738 3 жыл бұрын

Wao beautiful bike bmw Is very expensive in malaysia.

@somborn 4 жыл бұрын

Result: 2017 amazing. 2020 super duper amazing.

@amiruddinirfan789 5 жыл бұрын

for me the best design is 2013 bike

@jamesSmith-bn3ud 2 жыл бұрын

Older one the best looking and I think it's a better bike ... granted nee one has all the tech and a.tft screen which youl never look at whilst riding I might add and also ohhhh I looks like a ducati... so its the older one for me .

@MrPninja 5 жыл бұрын

That was awesome, I just wish the M version I ordered would hurry up, but I’ve been told by dealership not until February next year, though I ordered it back in May

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

MrPninja wwwwwhat!! That’s crazy!

@MrPninja 5 жыл бұрын

6Tdegrees I know basically I’m buying a year old model for 33grand not happy

@samh3467 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting 10 months so far but should be getting my M version in November but I’m not holding my breath as I’ve been let down 3 time already

@MrPninja 5 жыл бұрын

Sam H it’s bullshit

@TSRR-zs6pf 4 жыл бұрын

I put my deposit down in March and I've been told December or January. I knew I wouldn't get the 1st bike, but thought I would have it by now. Just had to do another service and new back tyre on my current bike. Expenses that I thought I wouldn't have by now.

@macstheking 5 жыл бұрын

Was that a bud light the camera man pounded before riding?!

@AlexRamirez-gs1de 5 жыл бұрын

Red bull

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

Maybe haha

@Paledaddy 5 жыл бұрын

Did it have any of the limits on the ECU? Like the ones all the ppl in the states complained about?

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

Pipes beards & guns You mean power restrictions?

@Paledaddy 5 жыл бұрын

6Tdegrees yes sir!

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

Pipes beards & guns in the US they do have a heavy restriction placed in the ECU mapping, however you can get the restriction removed and re-mapped. Although I’m not sure if by doing so it will void the warranty.

@Paledaddy 5 жыл бұрын

6Tdegrees very good question, you would think the original programming would not void any warranty, only the emission/sound requirement for the US?!

@StormCentre88 4 жыл бұрын

2005 Turbo Busa (in QLD now) still better than the BMW everywhere but the track.

@jamiep2318 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video. I want them both...

@King88_8 8 ай бұрын

How do you know its "so much lighter" by just sitting on it??😮

@6tdegrees 8 ай бұрын

Weight distribution plus we all got to ride the new and old s1000rr

@King88_8 8 ай бұрын

@@6tdegrees yeah that's a given but when she simply sat on it for the first time she said so.... 7:00

@nadeem1689 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome review guys 👏👏👏

@davidelizabeth4933 5 жыл бұрын

Nice to get the fairer gender's input.👍 Much love from Northern California.

@jvmachine1466 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful video BMW double RR BMW is the best

@sickofalldabscensorship721 4 жыл бұрын

I'm just glad that they finally decided to go with symmetrical headlights. Looks so much better but that's about the only thing that looks better.

@sampatsudesh5680 4 жыл бұрын

Old one is better for me and can i win one pls .

@petermoygannon698 4 жыл бұрын

I just brought a second hand 18 model and think it looks better...and I really don't think it will make allot of difference considering the speed limit in Australia is 110 ..so I'll win if my licence is worth nothing to me ..or if you have no points on your license. the winner is the biggest wrist.

@maksummohammed6672 4 жыл бұрын

Put the TFT display on the 2017 S1000RR and i will be ok with it.

@abitofmymind 3 жыл бұрын

2014 hp4 still number 1. Who wants smooth? I want angry

@SICSLIPKNUT 5 жыл бұрын

New s1k looks so good! Must resist haha

@6tdegrees 5 жыл бұрын

Know them feels

@IMG-Photography 5 жыл бұрын

@@6tdegrees Resistance is futile

@mohammadnadeemasifmohammad399 4 жыл бұрын

BMW S1000RR 2020 best design

@madmaxfury6332 4 жыл бұрын

Old one

@robbyc4417 4 жыл бұрын

Bmw should pay you guys a commission, y’all just sold a bike. Going to look tomorrow 😂

@Dranreb865 Ай бұрын

The other one should be riding a cruiser or an adv

@sadniqqa 4 жыл бұрын

Where are the subs man?!

@6tdegrees 4 жыл бұрын

Arswole Schwarzdogger I know right! Hopefully our channel really kicks off with subscribers this year... we are so close to hitting 10k subs.

@DeruginizCLS 4 жыл бұрын

Old one sounds soo much better..

@TSRR-zs6pf 4 жыл бұрын

Your video makes me sad😥😥 Still sitting on my deposit. When will the production delays end? Pretty embarrassing for BMW. Here is a great new bike, can't buy it.

@DeruginizCLS 4 жыл бұрын

U ever get ur bike?