Totally agree with you on the steering! Besides the rev hang, and maybe tied to it, is the dead zone in the 1st CM of gas pedal ... The steering + rev hang + dead zone in the pedal make the 2nd gen feel less like a go kart. The only reason for me to upgrade from 1st to 2nd gen is really the added power and novelty aspect.

Also discovered you this month, you are probably going to be the top authority on this platform for advise and solutions to builds and problems, you know what you are talking about and you do good research.

I've watched these reviews and decided I'm keeping my 2016 BRZ that within two months of buying it new I put in an Edelbrock eForce supercharger and that bumped the HP up to 284 and made it a great track AND daily driver. Wider wheels and tires and adjusting camber for tracking made it nimble on the street. Changed out the exhaust for a 2" cat back so it sounds good. So definitely, I don't want the issues you've covered and again wonder why Toyota / Subaru doesn't significantly increase the HP because it just awakens the car into an awesome experience.

I hate the ordering system. as well. I came from the 2016 FRS and I agree with most of these, I do like the ride quality better on the new one cause I daily it.

Question about your wheels. You said that you 9 X 17 35 offset is that positive or negative? I'm looking at some 9X18 +47 wheels and some guy was running them saying they where fine. Thoughts?

went down from a og m2 to the same neptune blue premium manual. So far everything is nice, one thing i missed from my old m2 was the exthaust and the thin steering wheels.

I own a 22 BRZ and it’s funny that he mentions the very soft centering, because I installed an LED steering wheel on mines and it’s slightly off center, which I have to get re-aligned at the tie-rods since the bolt teeth weren’t perfect (way to overlook a “small” detail 😒); so it makes it more noticeable when the wheel is off-center, and I thought it was just that the bigger heavier wheel had more mass 🤣 (yeah it don’t make sense). The wheel should have more “weight” to center the rack like most cars.

Great video. Have you tried Perrin Steering Rack Lockdown? I would like to hear your thoughts.

As a true sports car driver, I don’t care about storage or cup holds. Honestly, really?!? Use the glove box for stuff. Maybe keep less crap in the car, might save weight. Lol. I have both, 2018 brz and GR86. The 86 is my touring. The brz is my 2490lbs track car. Rev hangs are in the 1gen too. But if you shift quicker, there are no hangs. I dig the new interior space. Tighter, more like a cockpit of a fighter jet. You are a new owner. You’ll get use to it. Oh, about details. Notice they did 3 windshield sprayers? That’s a cool touch. Why is it “what I hate” with owners of this car. It’s a $28,900+tax economical sports car and it works just fine for me, no issues.

I too have the 22 gr86, my steering wheel is very responsive. When I first got it, I inspected little to big things in and on the car. Slight turn on my wheel and it moves to the direction right away without any delays. I have 5 cup holders… Heated seats, and feels way more roomy. Also not sure about other Toyota’s but I was able to place an order for mine.. I’ve had the car for 5 months now and I have 0 complaints.

Coming out of a 2019 civic base I felt like the steering was a downgrade. I was so excited to feel this amazing steering all the reviewers were raving about and when I got in it it reminded me of the steering on my 2000 Toyota Corolla

Yeah I’m in the reserved list waiting on premium 2022 or 2023 cuz there coming out already 86 in mt and black.dealership told me 5-7 months im on month 7 and they still said I ain’t close to getting mine yet

the digital gauges are a downgrade from the 1st gen's analogue. the 6spd manual also needs taller gearing, the thing revs way too high at 75-80mph, nevermind faster speeds (i wouldn't want the automatic either but at least it's geared taller..).

I'm no engineer but is there a way to fix the steering? Like could you computer tune it? Change bushings or any hardware to help it? What about a straight swap to the 2013-2021 eps module? Would that fit even fit

The Toyota 'ordering' process is horrible. About a month ago i checked in with a dealer where I had put in a request back in May. His update was "a year, give or take". ??? Give or take what? Fortunately, I placed an order for a BRZ in May (MGM LImited 6MT) and just received the VIN. Car is due at the dealer at the end of August. With the suspension differences between the GR86 and BRZ I think the BRZ may be the better choice for me. But what was Subaru thinking with the front license plate bracket? Keep the videos coming.

I still have a hard time choosing between the first gen or 350z hr.... not only the fa20 is gutless, the reliability seem to be a hit or miss, wish i could afford the second gen

Great video I agree .... steering feeling and initial turning on the 2021 car is much better than my 2022 BRZ. Anyone got any new ideas (other than the comments below)on how to improve these issues?

Is the steering issue exclusive with the GR86 or does the new BRZ have it too?

they added that because they knew people would be throwing bigger wheels and tires on so that way you can remove the tab and cut underneath it and put it back as if nothing happened lol

Thankfully i don't plan to daily mine. Strictly for the twistys (if it ever arrives lol) . Sold my M2 comp and ordered a special edition gr86 and picked up an 18 Fiesta ST for my daily.

6:57 iirc it has something to do with the law? I'm not sure but it seems like that piece is added so the tire width is < than wheel arc

Hopefully your car doesn’t suffer from silicone getting in the oil pickup tube

How about excessive RTV on the oil pan, it’s not bothering you?

Interesting. Multiple people say they have no rubbing with 17x9 +35 and 18x8.5 +40. Hmmm.

Your 86 doesn’t have the 5th cup holder? I have the premium model and there is a 5th holder below the seat warmer buttons

Currently, trying to get one too... What a nightmare, this Toyota allocation system is 🗑️🗑️... Also ulnar nerve 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Do you think these problems can be fixed? What I had in mind was: Supercharger, Lighter flywheel/clutch, cold air intake to help with revhang and throttle response upgraded coilovers for better ride replace clutch spring and replace shifter with 30% shorter throw for better shift changes there's nothing I can do about the steering maybe get a new wheel and see how that goes. was also considering getting some alcantara interior done later on Are any of these dealbreakers to you when using the GR86? I feel like it's an amazing value for what you get

Is the cabin noise worse than the fr-s? quieter or the same? I've heard mixed stories.

toyotas allocation system is garbage, i had to call everywhere looking for a premium. finally found one in Missouri and drove it back to vegas. took 3.5 months

PLEASE get Toyota/Subaru to release a Corrective Action on the RTV silicone clogging up the oil pickup tube strainer. There is way too much RTV silicone being applied from the factory and pieces are breaking off and clogging up the oil pickup tube strainer enough to damage engines. PLEASE get Toyota/Subaru corporate to fix this issue and use simple gaskets!!

Its august and apart from airports there are still places that require you to wear masks? Anyways, good video. This made me decide to try and buy a supra over this car.

Dang I would’ve kept the 1st gen for sure.

Didn't you test drive it before you bought it?

I want to buy this car Soo bad but not dealing with the rtv issue big recall coming

I'm going from an Elise to a GR86. It sounds like I'm really going to miss the responsiveness and accuracy of my last car.

I don’t understand the allocation process I went to a dealership n ordered a base six spd raven black gr in January n it took thirty five days to get here from Japan for just a few thousand above the msrp pre markups

My gr86 is very impressive. I want more torque. The horsepower is fine, it needs it equally or more,,,.

People are talking about it

have one, love mine. I've switched over from Mustangs. I went with base. why. The seats in the Premium is a maintenance nightmare, the Alcantara looks good until it starts to wear. The duck taill rear spoiler is over the top. The wheels on the base have such a nicer look. As far as sound goes, lol a bunch of youngsters trying to get sound out of a boxer straight four, turning into a either a giant bee sound or a nasty fart can. Leave the car alone, and enjoy it as it is. putting over priced exhuasts on these is a money pit attempting to get a sound that fails on all grounds. A stock base is the way to go. Automatic as well. My last Mustang was a 6 speed manual. Forget it, get stuck in traffic and the enjoyment turns into an annoying place to be. Really less than a half second difference in a car that dose 6 seconds 0 to 60 isn't worth it. Most don't even know how to properly shift to squeeze out the half second difference. The GR 86 is a really nice looking car, that needs to be forgiven and appreciated for what it is. Respect it and enjoy it. If you want more performance, speed, sound don't get one, go buy a Porsche or a Jaguar F type. I split the difference with the dealership on the 5 grand mark up, fees tax, interest, and other over priced items like window tint, pinstripes, Matt's ate up half my down payment. sucks, it is what it is. From what you said about the car, sounds like you need to sell it and get happy. Not good to pay this much for a vehicle and be this unhappy.

Complaint about space in a coupe 😔

negative camber