A review of the various popular 7mm Hunting Cartridges.
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@doghousedon13 жыл бұрын
7mm-08, kicks like a 6.5 Creedmoor and hits like a 308. Now how sweet is that!
@nickb86183 жыл бұрын
When my gf started hunting she used my Winchester in 308 throwing 165gr seirra game kings. When she decided she wanted her own rifle we got 6.5 creedmor cause she kinda wanted just a smidge less recoil. I hunt with a 7mm wsm and I regretted immediately not talking her into the 7mm-08. 6.5 creedmor is a sweet little shooter but the 7mm-08 is the better option when we decide to hunt elk in the future. It is the happy medium between the 6.5 and the 308
@John_Redcorn_3 жыл бұрын
@@nickb8618 yeah the new craze with the 6.5 creedmoor has been caused by the 1000yrd crowd, but within hunting ranges (say under 500yrds) the 7mm-08 does everything better. All for just a hair more recoil, if its even noticeable. Love my 308, but the 7 would be my next choice if i couldnt have it (308)
@zander53443 жыл бұрын
Except the creedmoor shoots flatter at longer distances
@JWZelch3 жыл бұрын
@@zander5344 from a hunting perspective, by the time the Creedmore is shooting meaningfully flatter than the 7-08, it doesn’t really matter. The Creedmoor (probably both, really) has lost enough energy by then to not be terminally effective on deer-sized game.
@44240xtp3 жыл бұрын
Match the 7mm-08 with a light compact rifle . That would be all any hunter needs for 98% of the world's game animals.
@fedup35822 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with you on "ethical hunting distances". Personally I feel 300 yds is getting out there a ways, and 400 is a good max range. Watching most people actually shoot and hunt, an awful large percentage of them are having trouble at 200 yds.
@garyh14492 ай бұрын
For me 250 yards scoped and much closer with irons.
@wasimmtwari47694 жыл бұрын
In Australia, I use the 7mm08 for hunting all species. 120 grain for pigs and fallow deer. 140-160 grain bullets for Sambar & Red Stags, great all rounder. Nice video mate enjoyed it heaps, thanks for sharing & keep them coming !
@brettstewart60364 жыл бұрын
Wasim Mtwari totally agree mate I’ve used mine to shoot pigs all over Australia and love it the gun will never be sold it will go to my grandson cheers Yogi 🤙🤙
@matthewknight19102 жыл бұрын
Same here! It’s my ‘go to’ round for hunting State Forests in NSW. That and my .25-06
@RobinRK19624 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your thoughts. In our family my youngest brother uses a 300 RUM, Dad uses a 7mm Rem Mag, Mom uses a 30.06, and I use a 30-30 Marlin... my brother is a roofer, he uses a hammer.
@russellkeeling97123 жыл бұрын
Your roofer brother is a true hunter. That hammer will do the job every time in the hands of someone who knows how to swing it.
@bobbygreen22914 жыл бұрын
I have almost every caliber of rifle ,, when I got ready to give my only son his first hunting rifle , I went straight to the safe and picked up a Remington XHR in 708 Remington , with a 50 / 30 mil tube Leupold on it and took it out , walked up to him and said , son here is one of the best rifles I’ve ever owned , and I want you to have it.
@andrewmacaulay15853 жыл бұрын
Model seven in 7mm-08🤗
@johncreech90853 ай бұрын
I just bought my first 7mm-08 rifle and instantly fell in love. If your a hand loader it's even sweeter.
@johnleahu95033 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THE 280 REM!! It's an amazing cartridge and it does everything I ask it to do, in spades! Thanks for your work!
@a_brit_in_tx96033 жыл бұрын
This video is massively under-rated. Probably one of the best overall 7mm cartridge videos out there.
@Wheelchair-bear7 ай бұрын
But he forgot about the 7mm Weatherby, an American cartridge that came out in 1944, loaded today in factory rifle's, a standard length Magnum with equal ballistics to the STW. Why do Americans ignore or dislike Weatherby cartridges?
@garyh14492 ай бұрын
@@Wheelchair-bear Because usually you have to buy an expensive Weatherby rifle to shoot them.
@Wheelchair-bear2 ай бұрын
@@garyh1449 I realize that Weatherby Mark V's and ammo is expensive, but to not include the first 7mm mag. that has superior ballistics to the 7 Rem mag because of the cost? Maybe he didn't do enough research.
@TakeDeadAim3 жыл бұрын
I've handloaded my .280 Rem for 35 years. Using a 160gr Nosler Partition, 53.5gr IMR4350 I've taken Elk, Mulies, Whitetail and one Moose. I come within about 200fps of the magnum with MOA accuracy out to 300 yds. I always tell people when asked about it; "It does everything a .270 will but 10 grains heavier". It shines with handloads. I did use a 175gr for the Moose as I knew I'd only be shooting at under 150yds and it worked perfectly.
@kirkboswell25754 жыл бұрын
I have long been a "big bore" fan. My first hunting rifle was in 30-06. I still have a life long appreciation of it and the 338 Winchester. Maybe it's like never forgetting your first love? Still, the older I get, the more I appreciate the capabilities of the smaller bores. While I have never liked the 7mm Mag (or the 284, 300, or even the 357), I have appreciated other magnums, but in general a "standard" bore holds much more interest for me. I have been pleased with the performance of both the 7x57 and the 7-08 when given the opportunities to shoot them. Lately I've been looking at the older cartridges, most specifically the 6.5x55 Swedish. This video shows me that I need to broaden my viewpoint to include the "standard" 7's. Good video.
@garyh14492 ай бұрын
My 2 favorites.
@stgraves2604 жыл бұрын
Great review. My pop is in his 70s. He asked me a few years back what caliber rifle would I buy for a long range hunting round with low recoil? I told him 7-08. Just hand load some 140 Berger VLDs and be done. You’d thank he found some magical round. LoL!! My pop is a great shot. He just can’t move around very well. So it is hard for us to get close sometimes. We both love to spot and stock. He has taken deer at 700 yards with his 7-08 with ease. I’m thankful I’m able to enjoy life with my dad and wouldn’t change it for anything in the world.
@calvinlayport31274 жыл бұрын
700 yards is not a good thing in my opinion it owned about ever caliber made at one time or another my go to rifle for shots on white tail deer at 300 yards or less is a modle 110 Savage in 270 cal.all my shots that's gonna be over 300 yards is a Browning abolt 7 mm rem Magnum and the farthest I'll usually shot deer with it is 5-600 yards and then it's gotta be perfect weather calm wind strong scope I shot a 4-12 56 millimeter on the a bolt just a 3-9 by 40 on the 270 I gave the 270 to my daughter because she killed ever deer she shot last year her first year hunting with her dad and her closet shot was 240 yards longest 280 yards but like I said my one inch gun is different from most I draw a ring around a soda cape if my rifle want put every round in side that circal I want keep it long and also my Browning has the boss system on it the don't sell them any more but I was lucky found a old new one and I always thought the boss system but it's not it is the best thing iv ever used one a rifle I can true my rifle in with 150 grn and 180 grain same scope no adjustments to my scope just ajustments to my boss when I bought that Browning I knew it was gonna be loud and it is not the loudest iv shot it doesn't bother me but damn it'll drop them in to a target I tried it in with my scope ajustments to 2 inch group at 175 yards put my caps on and started playing with the boss and had it wallering the hole out I was shocked to say the least more like amazed but I'm glad to hear you hunt with your grandfather that's always a great thing to do and I'm not a kid anymore either if y'all younger men keep your mouths shut a little bit more you will really learn something that you can't get out of any book been there done that and us older men like to show our family what we learned over the years children has always melted my heart I find wounded deer for people with my dog and if it's a deer a child shot I'll do it for free ,and I will find that deer too might take me a couple of days pending on shot placement but I want quit till that child has his first deer and my dog is better then dogs IV seen infact another man has been doing that for people charging a hundred and fifty dollars a buck and the funny thing is I trained the dog he uses and gave the dog to him because he just wasn't gonna be good enough for me but he's a fare dog but mines damn good dog
@baobo674 жыл бұрын
@@calvinlayport3127 I agree on 300 yds/metres max. Both stories are very nice. Him spending quality time with his father and you with your daughter. Will be nice times to reflect on. Cheers
@stgraves2603 жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna knock anybody’s ability. Hunting, shooting, or in my dads case just being able to get around. Would I like to get my dad closer? Sure I would. But it’s hard sometimes to get him up a rocky hill and through some deep ravine threw a river. I’ve taken elk in the 900 yard range with my 260 Remington and 140 grain Berger’s. Do I do it all the time? No sir I don’t. My rifle and I can hold a 2” group at 700 yards all day long. Hit a 5” target at 1,000 yards 3 out of 5 times. A 10” target 5 out of 5 at 1,000 yards. I do believe there are people that are looking for that long shot all the time for bragging rights and I will never agree to that. If you don’t respect the animal that you are about to take its life, I don’t thank you should be hunting anyway no mater how far of a shot it is. I have my limits set on the conditions that are around me. If the wind is blowing over 20 mph than I don’t shoot past 700 yards. Now on a target sure, but not on a live animal. Good luck this hunting season everyone. Get your loved ones out and enjoy the outdoors. Meet new people and seek new adventures. God bless!!!
@buckdown16584 жыл бұрын
I completely agree sir. I personally love the 7MM-08. Fantastic round that drops deer just as fast as a 30-06
@utenteutente95313 жыл бұрын
hunters here in Europe love the 7x64, it can handle everything with many different bullet weights
@trevorgomez33433 жыл бұрын
30-06
@Nick-wn1xw3 жыл бұрын
Despite a comment that has nothing to do with what you said, the 7x64 is a GREAT round. I wish it would catch on in the U.S.
@whatstheproblem66063 жыл бұрын
Same here in US except that would b the infamous 30-06, 125 gr.-225gr.
@NorthwoodsNomad3 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-wn1xw sadly , the metric calibers never really grabbed the attention of most people in the USA, until the 7mm Remington Magnum came about . The 7 * 64 Brenneke is essentially the same cartridge as the .280 Remington ( ballistically speaking / and technically a spin off of the 7*64) a very effective and efficient cartridge , and perhaps the best 7mm cartridge ever designed. It is sad that people can’t see the worth in this fine 7mm cartridge, the Americans cling to their .30 calibers and always will . The only other 7mm caliber that gained a lot of popularity was the 7mm-08 , due to its ability to chamber in short action / compact rifles , and its mild recoil , and ample supply of commercial ammo , it has great capabilities, but still cannot match the versatility of the 7*64 / or .280 Remington to be loaded with the heavier 160-175 grain bullets . I love my .280 Remington, it will take care of any business I need it to do , with the exception of the availability of commercially loaded ammo , it has has great potential for anyone who has the resources and knowledge to custom hand load , it is considered the ‘ handloaders dream’ with so many 7mm projectiles to choose from , and today’s powders and primers which are superior to what was available back when these cartridges were first developed, the .280 Remington ( and 7*64 Brenneke) can achieve velocities that knock on the door of the 7mm Rem Mag .
@daigarreth3 жыл бұрын
That’s my gun in Sauer S202, shoot everything from Impala to Eland
@joebob98424 жыл бұрын
I’ve hunted all over the world and I can’t agree more that the 7 mm 08 is an outstanding cartridge .I also have a 280 Remington that I’ve had it with extensively. I really like that cartridge and it’s my one gun if I can only go anywhere for medium size game. This is a well-thought-out presentation and for the reloader it’s hard to beat the 708. The discussion of long-range shooting for hunting is not hunting most guys can’t find the target if it’s more than 400 yards away after they shoot it and if it doesn’t drop which is usually the case. This is because the energy is out of the bullet by then they’re never gonna find the animal. I’ve seen that happen over and over again. We need more intelligent posts from guys like desert dog I can’t say enough about how much I like this video.
@MTMILITIAMAN7.622 жыл бұрын
I cut rifling for Proof Research, and I for one am tired of the 7mms being ignored. I go months at a time cutting nothing but 6.5mms, then months at a time cutting nothing but .308s, and the whole time, nobody can tell me what these 6.5s and .308s are doing that the 7mms can't do better. I think the American shooting industry is ignoring the most useful caliber, .284. The .284s have higher BCs than either the .264 or the .308, and so chances are whether it is hunting or long range precision, a 6.5 Creedmoor or a .300 PRC, there is a 7mm cartridge that will do it better. The 7mms do best shooting the bullets of about the same weight as the .308s. Most .308s are using bullets in the 150 to 180 gr range. The 7mms dwell within about the same range, from 140 to 175 gr. The difference is that the 7mm will have a higher sectional density and a higher ballistic coefficient than the .308 caliber projectile of similar mass. In fact, even as you get into heavy weight match bullets, you have to get above 230 gr in .308 to get higher BCs than equivalent heavy weight VLD .284 cals. Consider Hornady, for example. Between the 6.5mm, the 7mm, and the .308, there is only one bullet in the entire lineup that beats the 7mm equivalent and that is the 250 gr Atip. If you compare the factory listed G7 BCs, the highest BC ELDX is for the 6.5 the 143 gr with a BC of .315, for the .284 cal the 175 gr gr with a BC of .347, and for the .308 cal, the 212 gr with a BC of .334. The highest BC ELDM is for the .264 cal the 147 gr with a BC of .351, for the .284 cal the 180 gr with a BC of .401, and for the .308 cal the 225 gr with a BC of .391. For the Atips, the .264 has a 153 gr with a BC of .355, the .284 has a 190 gr with a BC of .422, and the .308 has a 230 gr with a BC of .414 and a 250 gr with a BC of .442. So there isn't a single .264 caliber bullet that can beat an equivalent .284 caliber bullet and there is only one .308 caliber bullet. This is only one manufacture, but it is pretty much the same with Berger, with Nosler, ect. Very few .308 caliber bullets can keep up with the 7mms, and when you operate within the realms of commonly available bullets, the 7mm is shooting about the same mass at about the same caliber, it just arrives downrange faster and with more energy. The higher sectional density of the 7mms means that they penetrate exceptionally well. So you combine more retained velocity and energy downrange with good penetration and you end up with rounds that often punch above their weight, even harder than the .308 caliber rounds they are often compared to. The difference is mass usually isn't much, the 7mms will have more velocity because of their higher BCs, and so will expand better, and better penetration because of their higher SDs. The only thing the 7mms lack compared to the .308s is recoil. The 7mms are the true sweet spot between external ballistics, terminal ballistics, and recoil.
@captainklr65084 жыл бұрын
Desert Dog. That was just an amazing review. Your going to be one of the most watched experts on U tube. I’m your new biggest fan. And so refreshing to hear an ethical hunting distance discussion and addressing the trend to long range mortar practice on our wild game.
@j.r.12234 жыл бұрын
7mm-08 gets my vote for the all round cowboy award. 7mm Rem mag loaded with 180 gr eld-M is one of my top picks/builds (26", 1/9, H1000) The 7mm Practical designed by Nathan Foster is an amazing performer. But my favorite cartridge is the 30-06.
@johnkizziah1083 жыл бұрын
For a few years most custom rifles were made in 280 the way that 6.5 creedmore are now..kinda the top dog is a 280Ackley
@adamboylan23073 жыл бұрын
Not hard to endure your videos bud. You always have a great deal of useful information. Especially if someone is getting into different hunting fields.
@OTG4144 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a fan 7mm-08 for years; way before it was cool. I am happy it’s experienced such a surge in popularity though. I think once the 6.5 craze is over, the venerable 7mm-08 will still be standing at the top of the heap when the dust settles.
@randyschaff89394 жыл бұрын
OTG414 l agree
@falba14924 жыл бұрын
The 7mm-08 is a great caliber, but the 6.5 is not a craze. It’s just a really good performing round, with many pluses. Personally I prefer the 280 AI, but it’s a rare bird. Ammo is a huge problem unless you reload.
@whitespacemarines43084 жыл бұрын
I agree, I don't understand the whole 6.5 Creedmoor issue. It is a very good cartridge, but it is not a 7mm-08. And I don't own either one. Just looking at the balance of both.
@borkwoof6964 жыл бұрын
The "6.5 craze" is not going anywhere
@edwardabrahamiii37424 жыл бұрын
Yup i think the 6.5 creed is all hype id rather have what you got the 7-08 been around longer itll probably shoot further then i can and ima hunter to furthest shot ive ever shot at a moose probably 150 yards
@buckjager28974 жыл бұрын
I like how you kept emphasizing The Term "Ethical hunting"!! I am getting sick of the KZfaqr's talking about shooting out to 600+ yard for hunting and MOA and so on. I wish hunter's would get back to good clean hunting, most people do not have a range that extends past 300 yard so why would you want to shoot at a animal at that distance to possible wund it? Our job as a "Hunter" is to promote wildlife conservation and ETHICAL HUNTING!!. Maybe you can put something on about that.
@beardoggin89634 жыл бұрын
Chris F I agree, 300 is my max on live animals. I’ve shot out to 1000 and it is so tricky. If you miss a foot to the left on steel, no big deal. If you shoot a foot to the side on game you may have just crippled that animal
@desertdogoutdoors11134 жыл бұрын
I am perfectly capable of good first shot hits a 1000 yards. But that is not hunting. A deer cant even see or hear you, and doesn't even know it's being shot at from that distance. Hunting is an up close and personal experience.
@beardoggin89634 жыл бұрын
Desert Dog Outdoors exactly. And my issue as well is recovering game from that distance. If you shoot from one ridge top to the next, and the animal runs out of sight, how are you going to be able to figure out where it was standing for the shot? I have a hard enough time finding a blood trail of a deer I shot at 200!
@MuskratOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Half the fun to me is getting as close as possible. I have only shot one deer at 300 yards, the rest have all been more or less 100 yards. Playing sniper at 600 yards would be fun, but at that range the chance of wounding an animal is too great. I don't consider it ethical. At that range a slight breeze, or even the rotation of the Earth can throw you off.
@ericholbrook17334 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you. If you're not a good enough hunter to get within 200 yards, you shouldn't be allowed to hunt
@russellkeeling4387 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your videos. You are logical and speak truth. Years ago when my father was going to gun smith school he wanted to build an antelope hunting rifle. Due to the availability of Mauser actions he used a 93 action and built a 7x57. I own this rifle to this day and it is the reason I am in love with the 7x57. I have harvested the two largest elk I ever killed with that rifle and they were both massive. Due to the strength of the actions of both my 7x57 and my .275 Rigby I am able to load above what most books show as the maximum for the 7x57 without high pressure signs Keep up the good work.
@jfox714 жыл бұрын
I love my 7mm-08. I have shot pronghorn and deer out to about 350yds with 140gr bullets. It is nice to take it to the range compared to my magnum calibers. This gives me more confidence as well.
@Plainsimple672 жыл бұрын
ILIKE THAT CALIBER, BUT WITH TARGET LOADS, MY 7MM MSG IS SO OUT OF THIS WORLD ACCURATE. MY 7X57 RIFLES FROM MILITARY TO COMMERCIAL MODELS ARE ALSO REALLY SMOOTH SHOOTING AND ACCURATE. I GOT A .284 CUSTOM BUILT RIFLE WITH A LEUPOLD ON IT FOR $450.00 BUCKS, CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HOW THAT SHOOTS.
@robertwolfe29712 жыл бұрын
The 280 AI AND 284 WINCHESTER,7MM RUM SHORT HAVE ABOUT THE SAME VOLOSITIES.
@jk-764 жыл бұрын
I never get into discussions about "real hunters shake hands with the elk" or, "got it from a half mile". I will say, I hunt for food. If I can bag him past 300 yards I will. If I can get close I will. I don't care as long as it ends up in the freezer. My Savage model 10 in 7mm Rem Mag is my go-to here in New Mexico.
@cyborg20484 жыл бұрын
Well put I used to shoot 300 rum and can reach out no problem I'm shooting a ruger .308 now and 500 is my limit for deer and 400 for elk but 50 but yards preferred. Ethical hunting distances vary vastly between hunters based on skill and equipment.
@edwardabrahamiii37424 жыл бұрын
You and i are hunters alike i aint about to carry no AK MOOSE past 100 yards my dad showed me that its hard work in the swamps trees grass tundra so i aint about to work my ass off super hard for meat in the freezer
@NorthwoodsNomad3 жыл бұрын
I love New Mexico, I lived in Colorado for over 7 years and did a lot of hunting there with decent success . Now I live in Michigan, sold all of my magnums and just hunt whitetail with a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight chambered in .280 Remington. I would have no problems using this on elk out to 400 yards. I’m actually contemplating moving to New Mexico as it’s a desirable place for me , and I was looking for some input for suggestions for a decent place to settle where hunting and fishing and outdoors sporting activities are abundant.
@whatstheproblem66063 жыл бұрын
Hey you got any elk tags available?
@jk-763 жыл бұрын
@@whatstheproblem6606 Of 12 people I know who put in for the lottery 1 got a tag this year.lol
@jasonbroom71473 жыл бұрын
That's a good review of common 7mm cartridges. As it often does, this really boils down to short action vs. long action, but as you mentioned, the 280 AI is probably the best 7mm cartridge ever created. If you load your own ammunition, it's just as easy to load for as the 7-08, but lets you do more with heavier bullet weights. It's virtually a 7 Rem Mag, without the annoying belted case.
@brianklamer33282 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to buy or re-barrel a Savage 110 into .280 AI except the cost of ammo is ridiculously expensive and I don't reload at this time.
@twolak19722 жыл бұрын
What's annoying about the belt. I like it , the case headspace on the shoulder anyway just like the other 7mm,s.
@jasonbroom71472 жыл бұрын
@@twolak1972 If the round headspaces on the shoulder, and the belt has nothing to do with strength (never has), why do you "like it"? What is there to like? It serves no purpose, even if it doesn't detract in any way.
@twolak19722 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbroom7147 because I do that's why. It makes the round look more badass, not that the 7mag needs it, it the most flat shooting ,quickest killing medium. To big game round out there.For deer to moose it has no peers. For the big bears however I want a 340 weatherby or 375. As much as I love my 7 mag even it has its limits.
@jasonbroom71472 жыл бұрын
@@twolak1972 - It has no peers? Seriously? What about the STW or the 7x64 Brenneke? If you like cases because they "look more badass" then I really have no argument for that kind of logic.
@jasonstone77614 жыл бұрын
Your ballistics are wrong on 7mm-08. You are trying to make it look comparable to the 270. A 140 grain bullet is just under 2800 ft/sec, 150 grain about 2650 ft/sec & 175 grain little over 2500 ft/ sec. It's a very good round up to 350 yards. It can't compete with the 270.
@desertdogoutdoors11134 жыл бұрын
I was wondering when the 270 fan bois were going to show (they constantly troll videos from any cartridge). Like most other youtube channels, I usually just delete them rather than argue, but I will give you an answer since you were the first. FIRSTLY, I never said anything about the 7mm-08 being comparable to the 270; you made that up. Secondly, ANY loader (EVERYONE) can get 2800fps or more from a 150gr bullet easily and safely from the 7mm-08, just like I can easily get 2900fps from a 150gr out of my 270. Every load manual has safe 150gr 2800fps loads for 7mm-08 and safe 2900fps loads for the 270 (I load both, so I understand this). At 300 yards (ethical hunting distance to Jack O'Connor), the difference in drop is 0.50", BUT the 7mm-08 does it with 20% less recoil and way less powder consumption. The 7mm-08 wasn't made to compete with the 270, so stop trying to make it that (270 guys are very insecure). The 7mm-08 was made to be a very soft recoiling round, that is easy to load for, efficient, inherently accurate, fits in a short action, and can ethically kill animals at reasonable hunting distances. Jack O'Connor loved the 7mm-08's twin, the 7x57, just as much as he loves the 270. The only reference I made to the 270 was with the 280, which is indeed a fair comparison.
@patrickgallagher43442 жыл бұрын
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 good for you the Jack O’Connor fan boys love comparing their long action cartridge to a short action cartridge! I shoot a creedmoor believe me I know all about it! lol 😂
@OTG4144 жыл бұрын
To be clear, when I referred to the 6.5cm as a "craze", my intention was not to suggest that the caliber would fade away but rather that the focus on it would fade back. There are many old cartridges that have outstanding reputations and are still very relevant. Hornady has advanced the shooting sports by bringing some great new purpose-built cartridges to market; the 6.5 and 6mm Creedmoors being two of them. This is a great thing for shooting as a whole and I applaud Hornady for their innovation, but the shine will fade and the venerable hunting cartridges that we have all owned and loved for generations, like the 7mm-08, will still be there when that happens. Personally, I believe the 7mm is the most versatile bullet diameter there is. I also believe that the 308 case is one of the most forgiving, pressure-tolerant, and ubiquitous cases ever created. Marrying the two to create the 7mm-08 made such perfect sense. It created a platform that was perfect for seasoned hunters and was quite tolerable for both women and youth hunters as well. It is a platform with which the shooter could load light and fast 120gr screamers that were perfect for varminting and predator hunting, or 140gr pills that are perfect for the majority of light-skinned North American big-game, and still have the option to go even heavier with 160gr sledgehammers for bigger game like elk and moose. All those options can be pushed at very respectable and ethical velocities from the 7mm-08 case, especially when handloading with modern components. Versatility is where the 7mm-08 beats everything else. Lots of cartridges can do some of what the 7mm-08 can do, and some may even do a few things a little better, but the 7mm-08 can pretty much do everything really well. So while I do own lots of rifles in other calibers (including two in 6.5cm), if I had to pick one, it would always be a 7mm-08 and it's the cartridge I recommend to anyone buying a first hunting rifle.
@WILDBILLSOUTDOORS3 жыл бұрын
I always suggest 7mm-08 any time someone asks what to get for a first time hunter, kids included. I own a few rifles, but I don't have a 6.5 and don't want one! I never bought into the hype and all it is in my opinion was some thing to help sell guns and ammo, wich from a business standpoint is perfectly fine with me, my 7mm-08, .308, 30-06, 7mm rem mag and .300 win mag will do everything I need them to do. Getting off the subject a little bit but in the states that have legalized centerfires such as the .35 whelen to be used in their "Primitive Weapon" season, all that is is a chance for gun companies and retailers to sell a gun and some ammo and scopes etc... perfectly fine with me but I call it what it is. I live in Louisiana and i don't call it "Primitive Weapon" season, I call it "Sell A Gun" season :)!
@ericholbrook17334 жыл бұрын
I have a 7x57 in a Ruger No. 1. I absolutely love this rifle, it's a tack driver and very comfortable to shoot and it is a very handsome rifle. I'm a little older now and I have a fair amount of hunting and shooting experience. My 2 favorite rifles are now the 7x57 and a really sweet Kimber 25-06. I have a nephew who has been an avid bow hunter for several years and now wants to start rifle hunting. He's in North Carolina and has been talking to about what .300 Win Mag he should buy. I have a very nice one that he has seen and that he admires. When I started with the.300 Win Mag I lived in the Pacific North West. There I was hunting elk, mule deer and bears. I now live on the east coast and the .300 is too much gun for this area, for that matter it's too much gun for this side of the Rocky Mountains. Now I did get a lot of use for it out west and in Africa. Back to the 7mm. I made him a deal, I will loan you my 7x57 to hunt with in North Carolina this upcoming season. I'll loan it to you now with ammo so you can spend the next several months getting used to it. If you can kill a "Wall Hanger" buck with the single shot 7x57, and still want a .300 Win Mag,I'll give you mine. Do you think I did the right thing? In my opinion the 7x57 is an absolute perfect round for everything east of the Rockies and most things west of them.
@ericrumpel31054 жыл бұрын
7X57 is an incredible caliber,.....then it becomes even mystical when you consider its age....been reloading & shooting that caliber for 47yrs. now & it kicks the 6.5cm's ass.....SO overlooked !!
@MuskratOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Dang good deal! 7 Mauser (7x57) is a great cartridge. I forget his first name, but a guy named Bell hunted and killed a lot of elephants with it. If it works for them, it oughta work for anything! Shot placement and reasonable range is the key.
@ericholbrook17334 жыл бұрын
I'am a fan of the plain old.35 Remington in a Marlin 336. I've had it since I was 16 and now I'm sneaking up on 60. It's just an amped up .30-30...
@MuskratOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
@Art Anson That's the guy! I couldn't recall his first name.
@ericholbrook17334 жыл бұрын
I believe the "Bell" you have mentioned is indeed Walter Matiland Drympold Bell, more commonly known as "Karamoja Bell" because of the region or area that he traditionally hunted. I've read much about him. But that's not why I took up the 7x57. Back in 2004 I went on a plains game safari. I carried a .300 Win Mag. It went smoothly, I took all the game on my package. As I was leaving at the end of 10 days of hunting, my host showed me his rifle... A Malincher 7x57 and he had an amazing trophy room to show.
@christojordaan50183 ай бұрын
First I heard of the 284win cartridge was at F -class matches and it excell at long distance with the 180 berger bullets.This is al custom target 30in heavy bull barrel very accurate rifles.My English is not that great because i am living on a farm in South Africa and hunt for 45years of my life every year and you are the only KZfaq channel that makes sense what I experienced in my hunting time.Great channel for new hunters to learn and experience hunters
@lennybuis91144 жыл бұрын
I have just bought a 7mm08 and I agree I've shot a 7mm mag for the past 30 years im getting older and the mag is kicking my butt. The 7mm08 is a joy to shoot and at 100 yds I can cover a 3 shot group with a quarter. Yeah the 7mag was shooting 162 gr bullets and my 7mm08 is shooting 140 gr bullets but im sure the 08 will do the same on whitetails.
@antitactical4 жыл бұрын
My vote goes for the .284 it's a rebated case that's volume is close to an 06 case. They are big in F-class matches. With long barrels they can run 180s up near 3000fps. 7-08 up to 7 rem mag seems to be the right zone for the 7mm bullet.
@wilhelmvo63993 жыл бұрын
I did a ton of research over the last year or so deciding what is going to be the perfect caliber for hunting and it cam down to 270 and 7mm rem mag. The 7mm-08 was 3rd and .308 4th. For long distance the 7mm rem mag won on that front too .
@TexanUSMC80894 жыл бұрын
If you draw a line up the middle of Texas and go all the way to Canada, you probably have about 80% of all hunters to the east. In that half of the US, probably 90% of all game are shot at less than 150 yards. In most cases, less than 100 yards. For the eastern half of the US, a 7-08, 6.5 CM, or 308 gets the job done. In many areas the old 30-30 is still king. As soon as you go to the other half of the US, the rules change fast though. Instead of deer being 50-100 yards away, they're 150-400 yards away, and the wind is blowing 20+ mph. There may not be much cover to stalk for closer shots. Many of us are getting older and don't want to low crawl 200 yards through cactus and rattlesnakes either. A 308 with 150gr bullet in a 20 mph crosswind at 250 yards is a bad situation. The wind can blow the bullet 15 inches off course. Then you have a miss or a gut shot. Out west, a high BC bullet with higher velocity is what's needed. A 280AI, 6.5PRC, or 7 rem mag are outstanding for longer shots in the very windy western US. It's important to pick the right cartridge and bullet for the game and situation you're hunting in. It makes no sense to me, to go deer hunting in Louisiana or east Texas with a 300 WM. On that same note, going hunting with a 30-30 in the Texas Panhandle would be a challenge.
@nathan84184 жыл бұрын
Lot of folks in Alaska use the 7mm-08 for caribou. Some will use it for moose but I prefer the old 30-06 for the big ones.
@greenboyatgafarms22504 жыл бұрын
You just can't go wrong with the old 3006!
@randyschaff89394 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The old .30/06 with 165 gr. bullets and up. You can shoot close you can shoot far it does it all and easy to shoot it well🇨🇦🤠
@edwardabrahamiii37424 жыл бұрын
30-06 works good on em even beluga whales and bears
@RickNethery4 жыл бұрын
Excellent information, I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video. I really like all the 7MM cartridges, especially the original 7X57. 😁👍
@geddyelmquist96983 жыл бұрын
Thats what i use👍
@billfrederickfrederick27913 жыл бұрын
Me also
@RickNethery3 жыл бұрын
@John Beige 7X57 Mauser and .303 British is the only ammo available at my local store right now. Expensive though, $40 per box.
@Wheelchair-bear7 ай бұрын
@@RickNethery$40 expensive? Don't buy a rifle chamberd in a PRC, Nosler or Weatherby
@RickNethery7 ай бұрын
@Wheelchair-bear I've no use for those cartridges.308 and 30 06 work fine for me.
@andrewwaring35654 жыл бұрын
Just purchased 7mm-08 Thompson center venture So excited this fall to hunt and again thanks so much for another exciting video
@mr.mr.33013 жыл бұрын
They don’t make the 708 in the new venture ii. I wish they did.
@Minoan19774 жыл бұрын
Great video discussing the various 7mm cartridges. My favorite is the 7x57 and I have a CZ ZKK 600 chambered for it. It's an early model with the pop-up peep sight.
@Plainsimple672 жыл бұрын
NICE, JUST BOUGHT ONE IN .30-06 IN AN UNFIRED CONDITION.
@shanemasters8370 Жыл бұрын
I have hunted with a 7x57 since I was 14 now I'm 50 love it
@paulhomsy27514 жыл бұрын
Of all the 7mm magnums, the most efficient, best balanced and most capable without burning barrels fast as some others do is the 7mm Weatherby Magnum. A magnificent unsung hero.
@hawkeye44973 жыл бұрын
7mm Wby will outperform the 7mm Rem, and the 7mm STW (with less powder), is BARELY slower than the 7mm RUM & 28 Nosler, but won't recoil or burn out your barrel like the STW, RUM or 28 Nos.
@nickb86183 жыл бұрын
Love my 7mm wsm it’s my hunting rifle and favorite. Use it for shooting a group before season and hunting with. I got other rifles to shoot targets because it’s a barrel burner.
@russellkeeling97123 жыл бұрын
I don't know any working man that can afford Wheatherby ammunition or find it.
@twolak19722 жыл бұрын
No , that would be the 7mm Rem mag. Its brass are cheap compared to the weatherby and the weatherby has no velocity advantage over the Remington whatsoever.
@ronkay1573 Жыл бұрын
I have both the 7 wea mag and the 7STW. STW faster.
@rickhelms65334 жыл бұрын
WSM has my vote. Backpack elk hunting a 5.5 pound short action is a breeze to carry. Flat shooting and stiff recoil. When only shooting one round for a long hunt, why carry a heavy rifle?
@GoetzFamilyAsia3 ай бұрын
I went hunting in the Czech Republic in the 90s with a Ruger No. 1 with Mannlicher stock and 20" barrel and caliber 7x57mm. I shot a roe buck there at 180 m. 7x57 is a good hunting cartridge. I also had a pre-war Mauser in 7x57 (1937) and an FN Mauser in 9.3x62 caliber. I am a German from Franconia and now live in Thailand.
@TexanUSMC80894 жыл бұрын
280 Ackley is one of my favorites. I've shot several deer with my 7-08 too. DRT.
@paleopete13 жыл бұрын
You are correct about the .284 being probably the best 7mm cartridge of all time but that Winchester badly screwed things up. I am building a custom hunting rifle using a Borden Ridgeline 'Medium' action that allows the full potential of this cartridge to be realized. This was also the most popular version of the Ultralight Arms Hunting rifles......supreme bench level accuracy, speed, flat shooting, light weight and energy without the recoil. I am hoping with the advent of medium actions for mid-length cartridges by Borden and others for the .284, 6.5x.284, 257 Roberts, 6.5x55 Mauser, 6mm Remington etc. the .284 will make a well deserved comeback as a superior hunting cartridge that it is.....as you mention it was way ahead of it's time and poorly managed. I've shot a ton of deer with my Winchester Model 100 in a .284 but am now will take this to another level with this custom build.
@mikespangler983 жыл бұрын
And don't forget the 7-30 Waters on the low end. A Contender carbine with that barrel makes a light and handy package for scrambling around rough country. Easy and economical to handload too.
@gunslinger76474 жыл бұрын
I’ve been shooting the 7-mm cartridges for a pretty long time. Shot most all of them extensively. Excellent video, I couldn’t add much at all to it. You gave each cartridge it’s credit dues and it’s shortcomings. Anyone new to the 7-mm cartridges listen close to this video. It’s pretty much spot on. With the advent of the new supreme bullets for the hand loader and the great factory ammo a new world has opened for the big 7-mm. That in conjunction with the highly accurate rifles being built. Good bullets in a 1-7 or 1-8 twist make the big 7s do their thing way out there. But that’s all kinda new stuff for the 7s. You nailed every cartridge dead on. Great video. Good no bull, to the point information.
@7berger74 жыл бұрын
@ Desert Dog / I inherited my father's Suhler drilling in 7x57r / 16-70 approx 10 years ago, and after years of experience with other calibres such as 9.3x62 mauser, .30-06, .375H & H, I was very surprised by the first results with this caliber . Highly effective when hunting red deer and wild boar at the usual distances of up to 150 m in Germany - but: there is no getting around the .30-06. This is truly the egg-laying wool milk sow for every hunt in Europe, maybe even worldwide. Greetings from Germany, stay healthy and keep your powder dry!
@terrymcclendon22774 жыл бұрын
another great vid Desert Dog , I was a big advocate of the 7mm rem mag for year's and I still have a soft spot for this cartridge, however after going back to the tried and true 30 06 I've come to realize that it does nothing more or anything better at ethical hunting ranges than the old 06 .long live the 30 06 Springfield !! great work !!
@shortrailer27404 жыл бұрын
I own one rifle, a 30-06. It served me well through most of my adult life. Now that I'm getting a bit older, I just don't like the kick anymore. I've decided to change it for a 7mm-08. During all my years of hunting, there was nothing I have shot in the past with the 30-06, that could not have been shot just as well by the 7mm-08.
@MrZonacat14 жыл бұрын
I have a 7mm-08, two 280Remington's and a 7mm STW and love them all. I am a shooter and not a hunter. I always enjoy your videos.
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@loganhefner9063 жыл бұрын
Desert dog, as you love the .308 cal bullets and cartridges I am equally as fond of the .284 stuff. I'm a eastern whitetail hunter and my 7mm/08 , 280 ai, 7mm rem mag and 7stw have never let me down... one thing I think to keep in mind is that most reloaders favorite round right now is whatever they can find components for. Thanks for another great video!
@tonybird46334 жыл бұрын
I really like your emphasis on hunting ethics. Plenty of people here in New Zealand use 708 it's good from goats up to wapiti. My rifle is a Sako 75 in 7x64 can be a mission to find ammo for otherwise a lovely gun and calibre.
@leeprimeroessler32773 жыл бұрын
tony bird Do you reload? .270 win brass is very easily formed to 7x64.
@tonybird46333 жыл бұрын
@@leeprimeroessler3277 yep I reload, stick to 7x64 head stamped ammo though because lots of my friends use 270 and a mix up would be easy.
@leeprimeroessler32773 жыл бұрын
tony bird That is smart. I have also used .30-06 cases. But then I use .338 expander first for the neck, and make a false shoulder. The headspace differs too much otherwise. I have a friend who also have used .280 rem brass, but I never tried that my self.
@tonybird46333 жыл бұрын
@@leeprimeroessler3277 I suspect 280 is as rare as 7x64 here. It's nice to know if factory ammo dries up there is always an option.
@kieranh20053 жыл бұрын
Second this. My main is a .270, I have a new 7mm08 sitting in the cabinet waiting for me to develop a load.
@timholmes12684 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of your very informative cartridge videos! I look forward to getting a Model 7 in 7mm-08 one day... Looking forward to see what's next on the cartridge menu :)
@Maximus-sm4ue Жыл бұрын
This video helped me solve my shopping choices, thank you.
@cjr44973 жыл бұрын
I will take my .280 Remington over a .270 or 30-06 day. We have a few .280's in the family. I will add. Most .280's out there are in lite rifles. Mine is a Model 700 mountain rifle. I have a friend that has it in a Model 700 BDL and the recoil is much less in his gun. The kick in mine has never bothered me though.
@VitoBb19784 жыл бұрын
Desert Dog thank you very for taking the time to discuss the .284 caliber. Owning a Weatherby Vanguard in 7MM Remington Mag for 30 years, there are a few things i would like to add, the case is a necked down 375 H&H, 1962 Remington brought it out with the model 700 with a 26 inch barrel. The original load was a 160 Gr softpoint@ 3150 FPS, It was designed to be a 500 yard Elk round.
@mytmouse573 жыл бұрын
Lots of interesting information. I was particularly fascinated by the .280 Remington.
@christianzale5054 жыл бұрын
My favorite 7s will always be the 7mm-08 and 7mm Remington magnum. I don’t shoot passed 500 yards at game and don’t have the need for anything flatter shooting.
@earlyetman55883 жыл бұрын
I have both of those and many others! The 7mm Remington Mag. is a one and done cartridge if you can handle the recoil...
@randyschaff89394 жыл бұрын
300 yds is a long ways never mind 400. Very Very good vid. Well done 👍🇨🇦🤠
@terrymurphy72203 жыл бұрын
I have all of them and the Rem 7mmmag is the one me and my boys each pick when we go hunting
@margieest74243 жыл бұрын
What bullet is that? I'm new at this
@loganhefner9063 жыл бұрын
It's a .284 caliber bullet also known as 7mm but it actually doesn't measure 7mm so it can be confusing. 7mm rem mag is my favorite as well. It will do it all
@darinmartin7113 жыл бұрын
All though you have listed a lot of great information and I really enjoyed your video.Great information great video, Although I believe the STW Is one of the best long range out west rifles ever designed. Very flat with high velocities and extremely accurate. If loaded properly. 140 grain TTSX Barns with Reloader 22
@reloaderlen99573 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I want to thank you for your reviews and your thoughts. With today’s Tv shows pushing $5000 dollar rifles and $3000 dollar scopes to shoot or maybe wound a animal at extreme range It’s nice to hear someone step up and say basically it takes more skill to get closer and less fire power. After all this is hunting. Keep the reviews coming and God Bless !
@desertdogoutdoors11133 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words.
@andrewnovelle11454 жыл бұрын
Andy (NZ) The .270 is a true 7mm, do the conversion 0.277 * 25.4 = 7.03. I have always wondered why heavier bullets are generally not available for the .270. I have shot .270 for nearly 30 years and reload, my pet load is 140 gr sierra game kings and even after 30 years this gives me slightly less than 0.75 moa in a Remington 700, deadly out to at least 340 yds. There are still times when I wonder what a 165gr or 180 gr would do. I hunt both our bush for Red deer and mountains (for tahr).
@desertdogoutdoors11134 жыл бұрын
This is because initially, it was named for the groove diameter (.284) , not the bore diameter (.275). Notice that the 275 rigby, which is the 7x57, was given the bore diameter name. the 308 for instance, is also the groove diameter, rather than the bore diameter. Many cartridges are not named after actual bullet, bore, or groove diameter for several reasons.
@boredboiseboy4 жыл бұрын
You don't see heavy bullets in the .270 because the twist rates on factory rifles are too slow to stabilize them The .280 Rem does heavy bullets better anyways.
@randyschaff89394 жыл бұрын
The “skinny seven” it’s a good one! I like it with 140 gr. bullets. The .270 has become so well established and so readily available anywhere that hunters don’t see any point in going with the .280 The .280 is a real “sleeper”🇨🇦🤠
@jasonw94236 ай бұрын
According to Berger’s twist calculation, a 1-10 twist .270 will stabilize a 170gn bullet at 2650 fps. I think 26” Weatherby could do that.
@ronkay1573 Жыл бұрын
I’ll keep my 7STW because it always works short or long range with very flat trajectory. My STW shoots very small groups at 500+yds. I’ve use the 7-08, 7weatherby mag, and a 300 win mag and only one I keep was the STW.
@hardball1074 жыл бұрын
Here in the North East where the woods are stupidly thick and the hills and ravines are high and steep and a long shot is under 200 yards the 7mm/08 serves as IMHO, the perfect deer cartridge for the reasons you mentioned. As an old National Match shooter, the most fun I've had on a hunt is when I bring out my M1 Garand in 7mm/08, peering down the irons at lunch or dinner and bringing it home. I especially like the expressions when I tell people that the old battle rifle is a 7mm.
@desertdogoutdoors11134 жыл бұрын
Yep; in most hunting situations, especially with deer, speed and excessive recoil just aren't the answer.
@robertsmith6164 жыл бұрын
Was an amateur gun builder used Turkish Mauser action mauser military stock cut down scoped rebarreled in 7/08 it was uggggly my buddies made fun of me at camp I was the butt of all of the jokes killed my deer on second day my buddy fell and broke his scope on his rifle told him he could use mine he said no it was to ugly next morning he slipped it out with anyone seeing him killed his deer at about 200 hundred yards liked it so well he would never give it back he said I was like his wife ugly but sweet 25 years he still has both ain't never ben paid for my ugly gun
@anthonywithem22723 жыл бұрын
My Browning blr is chambered in 7mm08 and my Ruger no1 is chambered in 7mm Remington magnum I love em both.
@davewinter26882 жыл бұрын
A fine video Sir Desert Dog. I think today is the third time I've watched it. The one advantage the 7x57 Mauser has over the 7mm-08 is that in a standard length action with good hand loads you can seat the bullet farther out to take advantage of the 7x57's larger case capacity. Otherwise they're two peas in a pod.
@desertdogoutdoors11132 жыл бұрын
Actually, you'll find that the 7mm-08 will easily handle really long bullets. The actions were meant to handle heavy 180-190 target loads for the 308.
@leeadams59413 жыл бұрын
My first center fire hunting rifle was a Argentine Mauser in 7mm, great gun and got me started. Having said that, I now love the .30 rifles and dont use the 7mm. When I go out of the .30s I go up to a .35 Whelen and IMHO that will take anything in North America...Im 73 now and have been seriously hunting since about 14 or so and cant remember ever taking a shot on a game animal much over 400 yards and most much closer. I suppose if I lived out West it might be different but it is what it is and if it aint broke dont fix it. Great review on the 7mm and I learned something, thanks.
@johnkaraphillis7543 жыл бұрын
Great reviews when bias is not present. In 4 decades of hunting, the vast majority has been with 7mm cartridges. The .280 for most, 7 mag, .280 Ackley, and ‘08. I agree with you the 7mm-08 is my choice for the best 7mm cartridge for me especially where the majority of my hunting is whitetails in the southeast. Hand loads take the cartridge to another level. Thanks
@beestoe9932 жыл бұрын
I have over a dozen rifles from .22 caliber up to .358 and the 7mm has become hands down my favorite caliber. As someone who primarily hunts Deer I consider it the perfect balance. I like my .257 a lot, .264 is also good for deer, .277 is so close to .284 that it is almost negligible. But I feel that the 270 is kind of a one trick pony as are the other lighter calibers. The bullets at the heavy end of the 7mm spectrum to me are more well suited for Elk sized game and yet you still get great performance on critters as big as Elk with minimal recoil. Does it get any better than that? Paul Mauser nailed it over 100 years ago.
@dannytaliaferro97272 жыл бұрын
I like the 7/08 for most hunting situations here in Texas for deer and hogs. When hunting from box stands with long shots I prefer the 7mag 26 in barrel And high magnification scope. The weight of that rig will tame the recoil and make long shots easier . .
@rancidpitts82434 жыл бұрын
A 7X57 in a light weight rifle is a dream to carry all day and not punishing to shoot when loaded hot.
@NordicRifleman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! And it’s ok to be biased when you have such sound ideas 🤘🏻 Funny for a European (Swede) to see an American cartridge video where the “weakest” cartridge wins. Who would have thought? 😁 Randy Newberg seems to be of a similar opinion and likes the 7-08. Keep ‘em coming 👍🏻
@drunknnirish4 жыл бұрын
Before I even watch the video I just want to say I very much enjoy the content you are putting out.
@jeffcopenhaver22174 жыл бұрын
While I have a soft spot for the 7x57 and the 280 Remington, more often than not, they’re not the rounds I reach for the majority of the time. I’m a dyed in the wool 30-06 fan and have been for over 35 years. That being said I could probably live happily ever after with the 280 Rem for 90% of my hunting.
@desertdogoutdoors11134 жыл бұрын
same here
@MarAgt3 жыл бұрын
I switched from my 7mm WSM to a 7mm-08 a few years ago. After one season with the 7mm-08, I sold the 7mm WSM. After doing a significant amount of research, I found that the 7mm-08 ballistics are very similar to the 308 w/a noticeable difference in felt recoil over the 308 and my previous 7mm WSM. On the rare occasion I will get to hunt elk or mule deer out west, the 7mm-08 will still perform that function as well.
@williesumlin78924 жыл бұрын
Always an outstanding video. I agree with Ethical Hunting. Because I feel the average person hunting may shoot up to 150 yards and every once and a while out pass that unless your in the mountains or flat areas. But many people believe they have to be able to shoot a spot on the moon for some reason. I've hunted for years and have taken many deer and hogs but must of my shots are below 120 yards. I have many rifle calibers and the 4 I use most are 243, 270, 308 and 45-70. Meanwhile my 30 06, 7mm mag and 300 win mag are resting in the safe. Thanks again for another great no bull jive video.
@Tekdvr9114 жыл бұрын
Yep, another good vid - I've been very interested in the 280 AI, but gonna take a harder look - I don't usually buy into hype, but very well could be in this case. Thanks for the time and effort you put into these videos, it's much appreciated!
@nolanrandolph45744 жыл бұрын
280 Ackley equals 7mm Remington, sweet round.
@jamesmcneil33543 жыл бұрын
280 !!!!!
@cody1820054 жыл бұрын
Love the 7-08, I had one built in a custom competition rifle. Less recoil and better BC's than the 308s(in bullets suitable for a short action) and better ballistics than the 6.5 creed. 2750 fps with 162 Gr ELD-X. The thing is an absolute pleasure to target shoot all day long and hold its own to well beyond 1km. But going along with what you said, my 308 is what I take more often then not when heading out hunting with 180 class bullets. When I think of a magnum cartridge for hunting I'm going with a 30, or even 338 calibre. Cheers
@alanblackburn41014 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video I've always underestimate the 7mm calibers, now I can see that there are some serious cartridge in the 7mm family. I would also love to see a 30 Cal complete review as I am a 300wsm shooter. My belief is that a 30 Cal is a better hunting cartridge for big game (big wild boar and elk deer). But I must concede that some 7mm shoot flatter and has less recoil than some popular 30 Cal. Thanks again for those great videos.
@LRRPFco523 жыл бұрын
In a multinational Scandinavian Moose-Hunting Survey across Norway, Sweden, and Finland, they studied all the calibers used to see if there were noticeable differences. They had over 14,000 samples to evaluate, using animal distance traveled after the shot as the metric. Out of all cartridges, the .458 Win Mag and .45-70 had the best performance, but were the smallest sample sizes. The .30 bores had the longest travel distances, and accounted for 50% of all bore diameters. The 6.5mm and 7mm bores had the next-shortest distances to the .45s. All animals were obviously killed, but why do the 6.5s and 7mms do better? Less recoil allows more consistent and precise shot placement, and doesn't dislodge optics as much. You can get more shots in a practice session with a 6.5x54M-S, 6.5x55 Mauser, or 7x57 Mauser than you can with a .30-06 or .300 Win Mag. As you gain experience through practice, your chances of putting a bullet through the vital zone increases. You also will encounter internal scope damage and base/rings coming loose less often, especially with the lower-chamber pressures.
@onthebowoftheship444 жыл бұрын
Great video. You have a gift for describing these things very clearly and succinctly. I'd love to see a similar video for the common .30 caliber cartridges if you ever decide to do that. Cheers!
@MrPlecemanvpd4 жыл бұрын
The 7mm Remington Magnum is by far the most popular. Sales of reloading dies confirm this. It’s a great round in my opinion along with the 270 Winchester. Great video and informative
@johnnylovely883 жыл бұрын
So the 7mm RM is good for all of these cartridges?
@texastomsshavingtips63593 жыл бұрын
@@johnnylovely88 The 7mm Rem Mag is the cartridge, the 7mm(.284 cal.) is the bore size(bullet diameter) of at least 15 to 20(or more) different 7mm chamberings. I hope that this helps.
@mikewyd534 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments on ""ethical hunting" distances. I couldn't agree more. As a former guide and packer, I saw way too many instances of hunters shooting at anything they could see, just because they had the latest super boomer magnum rifle. If they animal did not go down, immediately, they didn't even bother to go check for blood. Just sickened me, wish companies would quit marketing "long range rifles". Learn to stalk, for god's sake.
@ericrumpel31054 жыл бұрын
I would NOT allow it...you shoot at it - no matter the outcome, your hunt is over !! that was my policy !!
@mikewyd534 жыл бұрын
@@ericrumpel3105 wasn't a fully guided camp. Hunters dropped off, and then picked up later. Tracked several wounded animals, after hearing their stories. Give them hell, they wuold pack up and go home. Not a good look for hunters, in general.
@olovikka4 жыл бұрын
True. We also have .375HH guys hunting elks and surprisingly they usually have more than one hole at the animal even they so much talk about how good the caliber is as it have tons of power and big bullet. Then .308win or 6.5x55se guys have only one hole. It's not about caliber it's about shot placement and good bullet choice. Too big cartridge gives bad shooter too much confidence.
@DSMattitude3 жыл бұрын
I love my 284 win. I have a 7-08 and a couple of a 7 rem mags, but my 284 is my go to for long range. For now..
@toddvandyke87372 жыл бұрын
Roy Weatherby’s 7mm Weatherby Mag solved this issue in the 40’s.
@brentanderson43044 жыл бұрын
I've been obsessed with the 7mm since I was a kid
@grantisnotmyname4 жыл бұрын
No mention of 28 Nosler? That is my top pick for a 7mm. Although I really like 7mm-08.
@cjb50033 жыл бұрын
I have a Musgrave 7 x 57 .Parts was bought from Germany so all the components are Mauser.Still has the Swastika on the side and also on the inside of the magazine.
@robertweimer23963 жыл бұрын
I have 2 280s and love both of them I use my encore for deer with 140 grain ballistic tips makes a small entrance hole and does a lot of damage inside...
@YouSydneyTube4 жыл бұрын
How does the .270 compare/fit amongst? It’s got a .277 bullet diameter > essentially a 7mm.
@aaronsabin88684 жыл бұрын
7-08 is the jam. It checks all the boxes for me right now. If I ever go out west and need a really looong range cartridge, I guess I'd have to re-evaluate, but east of the Mississippi, it's all I need. I still hunt with all sorts of other things, but the 7-08 is top shelf as far as I' concerned.
@desertdogoutdoors11134 жыл бұрын
I do 90% of my hunting in the west. 270, 7x57, 7mm-08, 280, 308, 30-06 will all do the job. I almost never shoot over 200 yards anywhere, and my freezer is always full of meat.
@aaronsabin88684 жыл бұрын
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 Good to know. A lot of people seem to regularly emphasize the long range shots @ 350+ yards out west. They tend to make the case for a 270 or 7mm mag or a similarly "extra flat" shooting cartridge. Looks like I don't need to upgrade then, which is great.
@hunterlucas95523 жыл бұрын
I hunt with a 7mm -08 Savage. I have been for a good amount of years and it’s a great deer rifle, event dropped a Coyote with it once and my dad has all of the 7mm rifles and i want to try new ones and other rifles like a 30-06 and stuff 👍🏻
@user-eg8hb8xt3j8 ай бұрын
I love the short mags . My favourite by far is the 325 . It cycles smooth and hits hard . I have a 7 rem mag that is a great cartridge too. I don’t find it recoils bad at all
@emeryhersh87023 жыл бұрын
7mm rem mag is my top cartridge for big game!
@Cloudstrife1122334 жыл бұрын
If you build a custom Mauser with an intermediate length Mauser action, the 7x57 fits perfectly.
@desertdogoutdoors11134 жыл бұрын
Great, classic combination!
@seventhmonkey4583 ай бұрын
I'm in agreement that the 7-08 is the all around best 7mm at ethical distances. I live in Oregon where we have a forrested jungle on the west side and the rest is high open desert. The 7-08 is perfect for the "wet" side up to Roosevelt Elk, but on the dry east side I prefer my 280 AI for elk hunting where longer shots are the rule (still ethical distances) and I want more authority to go along with the flatter shooting. Hammers rule!
@laughingdog1854 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, the 7mm is awesome and perhaps I’ll get one in 7/08. Thank you for a most excellent video.
@jusnuts14434 жыл бұрын
I was gonna buy a Remington 7mm mag back in 1986. But, I wanted may Dad's opinion on this, since it was an expensive purchase. After he had me compare 7mm mag ammo compared to .270 Remington, the choice became very clear. I still have my .270 today! Many deer have been taken. My freezer stays full.
@Me2Lancer4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the overview of the 7mm cartridges. I'm a big fan of 7mm Mauser and others. I have read the 7mm 08 compares favorably with the 308.
@benjaminhaas46343 жыл бұрын
The 284 could be considered dead in hunting circles, but in the 1000yd target game it's the king.
@ingvarkristjansson7664 жыл бұрын
Another great video from you especially the ethical hunting distances. Regarding your conclusion I would choose the venerable 7x64 though but the 7mm-08 is a great cartridge no doubt about that
@Me2Lancer3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your recommendations of 7mm cartridges I have a surplus 7x57 Mauser and have owned a 7mm Magnum in the past but now have a 7mm 08 rifle on order. I like 7mm ballistics.