7mm-08, kicks like a 6.5 Creedmoor and hits like a 308. Now how sweet is that!

I fully agree with you on "ethical hunting distances". Personally I feel 300 yds is getting out there a ways, and 400 is a good max range. Watching most people actually shoot and hunt, an awful large percentage of them are having trouble at 200 yds.

In Australia, I use the 7mm08 for hunting all species. 120 grain for pigs and fallow deer. 140-160 grain bullets for Sambar & Red Stags, great all rounder. Nice video mate enjoyed it heaps, thanks for sharing & keep them coming !

I appreciate your thoughts. In our family my youngest brother uses a 300 RUM, Dad uses a 7mm Rem Mag, Mom uses a 30.06, and I use a 30-30 Marlin... my brother is a roofer, he uses a hammer.

I have almost every caliber of rifle ,, when I got ready to give my only son his first hunting rifle , I went straight to the safe and picked up a Remington XHR in 708 Remington , with a 50 / 30 mil tube Leupold on it and took it out , walked up to him and said , son here is one of the best rifles I’ve ever owned , and I want you to have it.

I just bought my first 7mm-08 rifle and instantly fell in love. If your a hand loader it's even sweeter.

I LOVE THE 280 REM!! It's an amazing cartridge and it does everything I ask it to do, in spades! Thanks for your work!

This video is massively under-rated. Probably one of the best overall 7mm cartridge videos out there.

I've handloaded my .280 Rem for 35 years. Using a 160gr Nosler Partition, 53.5gr IMR4350 I've taken Elk, Mulies, Whitetail and one Moose. I come within about 200fps of the magnum with MOA accuracy out to 300 yds. I always tell people when asked about it; "It does everything a .270 will but 10 grains heavier". It shines with handloads. I did use a 175gr for the Moose as I knew I'd only be shooting at under 150yds and it worked perfectly.

I have long been a "big bore" fan. My first hunting rifle was in 30-06. I still have a life long appreciation of it and the 338 Winchester. Maybe it's like never forgetting your first love? Still, the older I get, the more I appreciate the capabilities of the smaller bores. While I have never liked the 7mm Mag (or the 284, 300, or even the 357), I have appreciated other magnums, but in general a "standard" bore holds much more interest for me. I have been pleased with the performance of both the 7x57 and the 7-08 when given the opportunities to shoot them. Lately I've been looking at the older cartridges, most specifically the 6.5x55 Swedish. This video shows me that I need to broaden my viewpoint to include the "standard" 7's. Good video.

Great review. My pop is in his 70s. He asked me a few years back what caliber rifle would I buy for a long range hunting round with low recoil? I told him 7-08. Just hand load some 140 Berger VLDs and be done. You’d thank he found some magical round. LoL!! My pop is a great shot. He just can’t move around very well. So it is hard for us to get close sometimes. We both love to spot and stock. He has taken deer at 700 yards with his 7-08 with ease. I’m thankful I’m able to enjoy life with my dad and wouldn’t change it for anything in the world.

I completely agree sir. I personally love the 7MM-08. Fantastic round that drops deer just as fast as a 30-06

hunters here in Europe love the 7x64, it can handle everything with many different bullet weights

I’ve hunted all over the world and I can’t agree more that the 7 mm 08 is an outstanding cartridge .I also have a 280 Remington that I’ve had it with extensively. I really like that cartridge and it’s my one gun if I can only go anywhere for medium size game. This is a well-thought-out presentation and for the reloader it’s hard to beat the 708. The discussion of long-range shooting for hunting is not hunting most guys can’t find the target if it’s more than 400 yards away after they shoot it and if it doesn’t drop which is usually the case. This is because the energy is out of the bullet by then they’re never gonna find the animal. I’ve seen that happen over and over again. We need more intelligent posts from guys like desert dog I can’t say enough about how much I like this video.

I cut rifling for Proof Research, and I for one am tired of the 7mms being ignored. I go months at a time cutting nothing but 6.5mms, then months at a time cutting nothing but .308s, and the whole time, nobody can tell me what these 6.5s and .308s are doing that the 7mms can't do better. I think the American shooting industry is ignoring the most useful caliber, .284. The .284s have higher BCs than either the .264 or the .308, and so chances are whether it is hunting or long range precision, a 6.5 Creedmoor or a .300 PRC, there is a 7mm cartridge that will do it better. The 7mms do best shooting the bullets of about the same weight as the .308s. Most .308s are using bullets in the 150 to 180 gr range. The 7mms dwell within about the same range, from 140 to 175 gr. The difference is that the 7mm will have a higher sectional density and a higher ballistic coefficient than the .308 caliber projectile of similar mass. In fact, even as you get into heavy weight match bullets, you have to get above 230 gr in .308 to get higher BCs than equivalent heavy weight VLD .284 cals. Consider Hornady, for example. Between the 6.5mm, the 7mm, and the .308, there is only one bullet in the entire lineup that beats the 7mm equivalent and that is the 250 gr Atip. If you compare the factory listed G7 BCs, the highest BC ELDX is for the 6.5 the 143 gr with a BC of .315, for the .284 cal the 175 gr gr with a BC of .347, and for the .308 cal, the 212 gr with a BC of .334. The highest BC ELDM is for the .264 cal the 147 gr with a BC of .351, for the .284 cal the 180 gr with a BC of .401, and for the .308 cal the 225 gr with a BC of .391. For the Atips, the .264 has a 153 gr with a BC of .355, the .284 has a 190 gr with a BC of .422, and the .308 has a 230 gr with a BC of .414 and a 250 gr with a BC of .442. So there isn't a single .264 caliber bullet that can beat an equivalent .284 caliber bullet and there is only one .308 caliber bullet. This is only one manufacture, but it is pretty much the same with Berger, with Nosler, ect. Very few .308 caliber bullets can keep up with the 7mms, and when you operate within the realms of commonly available bullets, the 7mm is shooting about the same mass at about the same caliber, it just arrives downrange faster and with more energy. The higher sectional density of the 7mms means that they penetrate exceptionally well. So you combine more retained velocity and energy downrange with good penetration and you end up with rounds that often punch above their weight, even harder than the .308 caliber rounds they are often compared to. The difference is mass usually isn't much, the 7mms will have more velocity because of their higher BCs, and so will expand better, and better penetration because of their higher SDs. The only thing the 7mms lack compared to the .308s is recoil. The 7mms are the true sweet spot between external ballistics, terminal ballistics, and recoil.

Desert Dog. That was just an amazing review. Your going to be one of the most watched experts on U tube. I’m your new biggest fan. And so refreshing to hear an ethical hunting distance discussion and addressing the trend to long range mortar practice on our wild game.

7mm-08 gets my vote for the all round cowboy award. 7mm Rem mag loaded with 180 gr eld-M is one of my top picks/builds (26", 1/9, H1000) The 7mm Practical designed by Nathan Foster is an amazing performer. But my favorite cartridge is the 30-06.

For a few years most custom rifles were made in 280 the way that 6.5 creedmore are now..kinda the top dog is a 280Ackley

Not hard to endure your videos bud. You always have a great deal of useful information. Especially if someone is getting into different hunting fields.

I’ve been a fan 7mm-08 for years; way before it was cool. I am happy it’s experienced such a surge in popularity though. I think once the 6.5 craze is over, the venerable 7mm-08 will still be standing at the top of the heap when the dust settles.

I like how you kept emphasizing The Term "Ethical hunting"!! I am getting sick of the KZfaqr's talking about shooting out to 600+ yard for hunting and MOA and so on. I wish hunter's would get back to good clean hunting, most people do not have a range that extends past 300 yard so why would you want to shoot at a animal at that distance to possible wund it? Our job as a "Hunter" is to promote wildlife conservation and ETHICAL HUNTING!!. Maybe you can put something on about that.

I appreciate your videos. You are logical and speak truth. Years ago when my father was going to gun smith school he wanted to build an antelope hunting rifle. Due to the availability of Mauser actions he used a 93 action and built a 7x57. I own this rifle to this day and it is the reason I am in love with the 7x57. I have harvested the two largest elk I ever killed with that rifle and they were both massive. Due to the strength of the actions of both my 7x57 and my .275 Rigby I am able to load above what most books show as the maximum for the 7x57 without high pressure signs Keep up the good work.

I love my 7mm-08. I have shot pronghorn and deer out to about 350yds with 140gr bullets. It is nice to take it to the range compared to my magnum calibers. This gives me more confidence as well.

I never get into discussions about "real hunters shake hands with the elk" or, "got it from a half mile". I will say, I hunt for food. If I can bag him past 300 yards I will. If I can get close I will. I don't care as long as it ends up in the freezer. My Savage model 10 in 7mm Rem Mag is my go-to here in New Mexico.

That's a good review of common 7mm cartridges. As it often does, this really boils down to short action vs. long action, but as you mentioned, the 280 AI is probably the best 7mm cartridge ever created. If you load your own ammunition, it's just as easy to load for as the 7-08, but lets you do more with heavier bullet weights. It's virtually a 7 Rem Mag, without the annoying belted case.

Your ballistics are wrong on 7mm-08. You are trying to make it look comparable to the 270. A 140 grain bullet is just under 2800 ft/sec, 150 grain about 2650 ft/sec & 175 grain little over 2500 ft/ sec. It's a very good round up to 350 yards. It can't compete with the 270.

To be clear, when I referred to the 6.5cm as a "craze", my intention was not to suggest that the caliber would fade away but rather that the focus on it would fade back. There are many old cartridges that have outstanding reputations and are still very relevant. Hornady has advanced the shooting sports by bringing some great new purpose-built cartridges to market; the 6.5 and 6mm Creedmoors being two of them. This is a great thing for shooting as a whole and I applaud Hornady for their innovation, but the shine will fade and the venerable hunting cartridges that we have all owned and loved for generations, like the 7mm-08, will still be there when that happens. Personally, I believe the 7mm is the most versatile bullet diameter there is. I also believe that the 308 case is one of the most forgiving, pressure-tolerant, and ubiquitous cases ever created. Marrying the two to create the 7mm-08 made such perfect sense. It created a platform that was perfect for seasoned hunters and was quite tolerable for both women and youth hunters as well. It is a platform with which the shooter could load light and fast 120gr screamers that were perfect for varminting and predator hunting, or 140gr pills that are perfect for the majority of light-skinned North American big-game, and still have the option to go even heavier with 160gr sledgehammers for bigger game like elk and moose. All those options can be pushed at very respectable and ethical velocities from the 7mm-08 case, especially when handloading with modern components. Versatility is where the 7mm-08 beats everything else. Lots of cartridges can do some of what the 7mm-08 can do, and some may even do a few things a little better, but the 7mm-08 can pretty much do everything really well. So while I do own lots of rifles in other calibers (including two in 6.5cm), if I had to pick one, it would always be a 7mm-08 and it's the cartridge I recommend to anyone buying a first hunting rifle.

I have a 7x57 in a Ruger No. 1. I absolutely love this rifle, it's a tack driver and very comfortable to shoot and it is a very handsome rifle. I'm a little older now and I have a fair amount of hunting and shooting experience. My 2 favorite rifles are now the 7x57 and a really sweet Kimber 25-06. I have a nephew who has been an avid bow hunter for several years and now wants to start rifle hunting. He's in North Carolina and has been talking to about what .300 Win Mag he should buy. I have a very nice one that he has seen and that he admires. When I started with the.300 Win Mag I lived in the Pacific North West. There I was hunting elk, mule deer and bears. I now live on the east coast and the .300 is too much gun for this area, for that matter it's too much gun for this side of the Rocky Mountains. Now I did get a lot of use for it out west and in Africa. Back to the 7mm. I made him a deal, I will loan you my 7x57 to hunt with in North Carolina this upcoming season. I'll loan it to you now with ammo so you can spend the next several months getting used to it. If you can kill a "Wall Hanger" buck with the single shot 7x57, and still want a .300 Win Mag,I'll give you mine. Do you think I did the right thing? In my opinion the 7x57 is an absolute perfect round for everything east of the Rockies and most things west of them.

First I heard of the 284win cartridge was at F -class matches and it excell at long distance with the 180 berger bullets.This is al custom target 30in heavy bull barrel very accurate rifles.My English is not that great because i am living on a farm in South Africa and hunt for 45years of my life every year and you are the only KZfaq channel that makes sense what I experienced in my hunting time.Great channel for new hunters to learn and experience hunters

I have just bought a 7mm08 and I agree I've shot a 7mm mag for the past 30 years im getting older and the mag is kicking my butt. The 7mm08 is a joy to shoot and at 100 yds I can cover a 3 shot group with a quarter. Yeah the 7mag was shooting 162 gr bullets and my 7mm08 is shooting 140 gr bullets but im sure the 08 will do the same on whitetails.

My vote goes for the .284 it's a rebated case that's volume is close to an 06 case. They are big in F-class matches. With long barrels they can run 180s up near 3000fps. 7-08 up to 7 rem mag seems to be the right zone for the 7mm bullet.

I did a ton of research over the last year or so deciding what is going to be the perfect caliber for hunting and it cam down to 270 and 7mm rem mag. The 7mm-08 was 3rd and .308 4th. For long distance the 7mm rem mag won on that front too .

If you draw a line up the middle of Texas and go all the way to Canada, you probably have about 80% of all hunters to the east. In that half of the US, probably 90% of all game are shot at less than 150 yards. In most cases, less than 100 yards. For the eastern half of the US, a 7-08, 6.5 CM, or 308 gets the job done. In many areas the old 30-30 is still king. As soon as you go to the other half of the US, the rules change fast though. Instead of deer being 50-100 yards away, they're 150-400 yards away, and the wind is blowing 20+ mph. There may not be much cover to stalk for closer shots. Many of us are getting older and don't want to low crawl 200 yards through cactus and rattlesnakes either. A 308 with 150gr bullet in a 20 mph crosswind at 250 yards is a bad situation. The wind can blow the bullet 15 inches off course. Then you have a miss or a gut shot. Out west, a high BC bullet with higher velocity is what's needed. A 280AI, 6.5PRC, or 7 rem mag are outstanding for longer shots in the very windy western US. It's important to pick the right cartridge and bullet for the game and situation you're hunting in. It makes no sense to me, to go deer hunting in Louisiana or east Texas with a 300 WM. On that same note, going hunting with a 30-30 in the Texas Panhandle would be a challenge.

Lot of folks in Alaska use the 7mm-08 for caribou. Some will use it for moose but I prefer the old 30-06 for the big ones.

Excellent information, I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video. I really like all the 7MM cartridges, especially the original 7X57. 😁👍

Just purchased 7mm-08 Thompson center venture So excited this fall to hunt and again thanks so much for another exciting video

Great video discussing the various 7mm cartridges. My favorite is the 7x57 and I have a CZ ZKK 600 chambered for it. It's an early model with the pop-up peep sight.

Of all the 7mm magnums, the most efficient, best balanced and most capable without burning barrels fast as some others do is the 7mm Weatherby Magnum. A magnificent unsung hero.

WSM has my vote. Backpack elk hunting a 5.5 pound short action is a breeze to carry. Flat shooting and stiff recoil. When only shooting one round for a long hunt, why carry a heavy rifle?

I went hunting in the Czech Republic in the 90s with a Ruger No. 1 with Mannlicher stock and 20" barrel and caliber 7x57mm. I shot a roe buck there at 180 m. 7x57 is a good hunting cartridge. I also had a pre-war Mauser in 7x57 (1937) and an FN Mauser in 9.3x62 caliber. I am a German from Franconia and now live in Thailand.

280 Ackley is one of my favorites. I've shot several deer with my 7-08 too. DRT.

You are correct about the .284 being probably the best 7mm cartridge of all time but that Winchester badly screwed things up. I am building a custom hunting rifle using a Borden Ridgeline 'Medium' action that allows the full potential of this cartridge to be realized. This was also the most popular version of the Ultralight Arms Hunting rifles......supreme bench level accuracy, speed, flat shooting, light weight and energy without the recoil. I am hoping with the advent of medium actions for mid-length cartridges by Borden and others for the .284, 6.5x.284, 257 Roberts, 6.5x55 Mauser, 6mm Remington etc. the .284 will make a well deserved comeback as a superior hunting cartridge that it is.....as you mention it was way ahead of it's time and poorly managed. I've shot a ton of deer with my Winchester Model 100 in a .284 but am now will take this to another level with this custom build.

And don't forget the 7-30 Waters on the low end. A Contender carbine with that barrel makes a light and handy package for scrambling around rough country. Easy and economical to handload too.

I’ve been shooting the 7-mm cartridges for a pretty long time. Shot most all of them extensively. Excellent video, I couldn’t add much at all to it. You gave each cartridge it’s credit dues and it’s shortcomings. Anyone new to the 7-mm cartridges listen close to this video. It’s pretty much spot on. With the advent of the new supreme bullets for the hand loader and the great factory ammo a new world has opened for the big 7-mm. That in conjunction with the highly accurate rifles being built. Good bullets in a 1-7 or 1-8 twist make the big 7s do their thing way out there. But that’s all kinda new stuff for the 7s. You nailed every cartridge dead on. Great video. Good no bull, to the point information.

@ Desert Dog / I inherited my father's Suhler drilling in 7x57r / 16-70 approx 10 years ago, and after years of experience with other calibres such as 9.3x62 mauser, .30-06, .375H & H, I was very surprised by the first results with this caliber . Highly effective when hunting red deer and wild boar at the usual distances of up to 150 m in Germany - but: there is no getting around the .30-06. This is truly the egg-laying wool milk sow for every hunt in Europe, maybe even worldwide. Greetings from Germany, stay healthy and keep your powder dry!

another great vid Desert Dog , I was a big advocate of the 7mm rem mag for year's and I still have a soft spot for this cartridge, however after going back to the tried and true 30 06 I've come to realize that it does nothing more or anything better at ethical hunting ranges than the old 06 .long live the 30 06 Springfield !! great work !!

I own one rifle, a 30-06. It served me well through most of my adult life. Now that I'm getting a bit older, I just don't like the kick anymore. I've decided to change it for a 7mm-08. During all my years of hunting, there was nothing I have shot in the past with the 30-06, that could not have been shot just as well by the 7mm-08.

I have a 7mm-08, two 280Remington's and a 7mm STW and love them all. I am a shooter and not a hunter. I always enjoy your videos.

Desert dog, as you love the .308 cal bullets and cartridges I am equally as fond of the .284 stuff. I'm a eastern whitetail hunter and my 7mm/08 , 280 ai, 7mm rem mag and 7stw have never let me down... one thing I think to keep in mind is that most reloaders favorite round right now is whatever they can find components for. Thanks for another great video!

I really like your emphasis on hunting ethics. Plenty of people here in New Zealand use 708 it's good from goats up to wapiti. My rifle is a Sako 75 in 7x64 can be a mission to find ammo for otherwise a lovely gun and calibre.

I can't get enough of your very informative cartridge videos! I look forward to getting a Model 7 in 7mm-08 one day... Looking forward to see what's next on the cartridge menu :)

This video helped me solve my shopping choices, thank you.

I will take my .280 Remington over a .270 or 30-06 day. We have a few .280's in the family. I will add. Most .280's out there are in lite rifles. Mine is a Model 700 mountain rifle. I have a friend that has it in a Model 700 BDL and the recoil is much less in his gun. The kick in mine has never bothered me though.

Desert Dog thank you very for taking the time to discuss the .284 caliber. Owning a Weatherby Vanguard in 7MM Remington Mag for 30 years, there are a few things i would like to add, the case is a necked down 375 H&H, 1962 Remington brought it out with the model 700 with a 26 inch barrel. The original load was a 160 Gr softpoint@ 3150 FPS, It was designed to be a 500 yard Elk round.

Lots of interesting information. I was particularly fascinated by the .280 Remington.

My favorite 7s will always be the 7mm-08 and 7mm Remington magnum. I don’t shoot passed 500 yards at game and don’t have the need for anything flatter shooting.

300 yds is a long ways never mind 400. Very Very good vid. Well done 👍🇨🇦🤠

I have all of them and the Rem 7mmmag is the one me and my boys each pick when we go hunting

All though you have listed a lot of great information and I really enjoyed your video.Great information great video, Although I believe the STW Is one of the best long range out west rifles ever designed. Very flat with high velocities and extremely accurate. If loaded properly. 140 grain TTSX Barns with Reloader 22

I totally agree. I want to thank you for your reviews and your thoughts. With today’s Tv shows pushing $5000 dollar rifles and $3000 dollar scopes to shoot or maybe wound a animal at extreme range It’s nice to hear someone step up and say basically it takes more skill to get closer and less fire power. After all this is hunting. Keep the reviews coming and God Bless !

Andy (NZ) The .270 is a true 7mm, do the conversion 0.277 * 25.4 = 7.03. I have always wondered why heavier bullets are generally not available for the .270. I have shot .270 for nearly 30 years and reload, my pet load is 140 gr sierra game kings and even after 30 years this gives me slightly less than 0.75 moa in a Remington 700, deadly out to at least 340 yds. There are still times when I wonder what a 165gr or 180 gr would do. I hunt both our bush for Red deer and mountains (for tahr).

I’ll keep my 7STW because it always works short or long range with very flat trajectory. My STW shoots very small groups at 500+yds. I’ve use the 7-08, 7weatherby mag, and a 300 win mag and only one I keep was the STW.

Here in the North East where the woods are stupidly thick and the hills and ravines are high and steep and a long shot is under 200 yards the 7mm/08 serves as IMHO, the perfect deer cartridge for the reasons you mentioned. As an old National Match shooter, the most fun I've had on a hunt is when I bring out my M1 Garand in 7mm/08, peering down the irons at lunch or dinner and bringing it home. I especially like the expressions when I tell people that the old battle rifle is a 7mm.

My Browning blr is chambered in 7mm08 and my Ruger no1 is chambered in 7mm Remington magnum I love em both.

A fine video Sir Desert Dog. I think today is the third time I've watched it. The one advantage the 7x57 Mauser has over the 7mm-08 is that in a standard length action with good hand loads you can seat the bullet farther out to take advantage of the 7x57's larger case capacity. Otherwise they're two peas in a pod.

My first center fire hunting rifle was a Argentine Mauser in 7mm, great gun and got me started. Having said that, I now love the .30 rifles and dont use the 7mm. When I go out of the .30s I go up to a .35 Whelen and IMHO that will take anything in North America...Im 73 now and have been seriously hunting since about 14 or so and cant remember ever taking a shot on a game animal much over 400 yards and most much closer. I suppose if I lived out West it might be different but it is what it is and if it aint broke dont fix it. Great review on the 7mm and I learned something, thanks.

Great reviews when bias is not present. In 4 decades of hunting, the vast majority has been with 7mm cartridges. The .280 for most, 7 mag, .280 Ackley, and ‘08. I agree with you the 7mm-08 is my choice for the best 7mm cartridge for me especially where the majority of my hunting is whitetails in the southeast. Hand loads take the cartridge to another level. Thanks

I have over a dozen rifles from .22 caliber up to .358 and the 7mm has become hands down my favorite caliber. As someone who primarily hunts Deer I consider it the perfect balance. I like my .257 a lot, .264 is also good for deer, .277 is so close to .284 that it is almost negligible. But I feel that the 270 is kind of a one trick pony as are the other lighter calibers. The bullets at the heavy end of the 7mm spectrum to me are more well suited for Elk sized game and yet you still get great performance on critters as big as Elk with minimal recoil. Does it get any better than that? Paul Mauser nailed it over 100 years ago.

I like the 7/08 for most hunting situations here in Texas for deer and hogs. When hunting from box stands with long shots I prefer the 7mag 26 in barrel And high magnification scope. The weight of that rig will tame the recoil and make long shots easier . .

A 7X57 in a light weight rifle is a dream to carry all day and not punishing to shoot when loaded hot.

Thanks for the video! And it’s ok to be biased when you have such sound ideas 🤘🏻 Funny for a European (Swede) to see an American cartridge video where the “weakest” cartridge wins. Who would have thought? 😁 Randy Newberg seems to be of a similar opinion and likes the 7-08. Keep ‘em coming 👍🏻

Before I even watch the video I just want to say I very much enjoy the content you are putting out.

While I have a soft spot for the 7x57 and the 280 Remington, more often than not, they’re not the rounds I reach for the majority of the time. I’m a dyed in the wool 30-06 fan and have been for over 35 years. That being said I could probably live happily ever after with the 280 Rem for 90% of my hunting.

I switched from my 7mm WSM to a 7mm-08 a few years ago. After one season with the 7mm-08, I sold the 7mm WSM. After doing a significant amount of research, I found that the 7mm-08 ballistics are very similar to the 308 w/a noticeable difference in felt recoil over the 308 and my previous 7mm WSM. On the rare occasion I will get to hunt elk or mule deer out west, the 7mm-08 will still perform that function as well.

Always an outstanding video. I agree with Ethical Hunting. Because I feel the average person hunting may shoot up to 150 yards and every once and a while out pass that unless your in the mountains or flat areas. But many people believe they have to be able to shoot a spot on the moon for some reason. I've hunted for years and have taken many deer and hogs but must of my shots are below 120 yards. I have many rifle calibers and the 4 I use most are 243, 270, 308 and 45-70. Meanwhile my 30 06, 7mm mag and 300 win mag are resting in the safe. Thanks again for another great no bull jive video.

Yep, another good vid - I've been very interested in the 280 AI, but gonna take a harder look - I don't usually buy into hype, but very well could be in this case. Thanks for the time and effort you put into these videos, it's much appreciated!

Love the 7-08, I had one built in a custom competition rifle. Less recoil and better BC's than the 308s(in bullets suitable for a short action) and better ballistics than the 6.5 creed. 2750 fps with 162 Gr ELD-X. The thing is an absolute pleasure to target shoot all day long and hold its own to well beyond 1km. But going along with what you said, my 308 is what I take more often then not when heading out hunting with 180 class bullets. When I think of a magnum cartridge for hunting I'm going with a 30, or even 338 calibre. Cheers

Thanks for the video I've always underestimate the 7mm calibers, now I can see that there are some serious cartridge in the 7mm family. I would also love to see a 30 Cal complete review as I am a 300wsm shooter. My belief is that a 30 Cal is a better hunting cartridge for big game (big wild boar and elk deer). But I must concede that some 7mm shoot flatter and has less recoil than some popular 30 Cal. Thanks again for those great videos.

Great video. You have a gift for describing these things very clearly and succinctly. I'd love to see a similar video for the common .30 caliber cartridges if you ever decide to do that. Cheers!

The 7mm Remington Magnum is by far the most popular. Sales of reloading dies confirm this. It’s a great round in my opinion along with the 270 Winchester. Great video and informative

Thanks for your comments on ""ethical hunting" distances. I couldn't agree more. As a former guide and packer, I saw way too many instances of hunters shooting at anything they could see, just because they had the latest super boomer magnum rifle. If they animal did not go down, immediately, they didn't even bother to go check for blood. Just sickened me, wish companies would quit marketing "long range rifles". Learn to stalk, for god's sake.

I love my 284 win. I have a 7-08 and a couple of a 7 rem mags, but my 284 is my go to for long range. For now..

Roy Weatherby’s 7mm Weatherby Mag solved this issue in the 40’s.

I've been obsessed with the 7mm since I was a kid

No mention of 28 Nosler? That is my top pick for a 7mm. Although I really like 7mm-08.

I have a Musgrave 7 x 57 .Parts was bought from Germany so all the components are Mauser.Still has the Swastika on the side and also on the inside of the magazine.

I have 2 280s and love both of them I use my encore for deer with 140 grain ballistic tips makes a small entrance hole and does a lot of damage inside...

How does the .270 compare/fit amongst? It’s got a .277 bullet diameter > essentially a 7mm.

7-08 is the jam. It checks all the boxes for me right now. If I ever go out west and need a really looong range cartridge, I guess I'd have to re-evaluate, but east of the Mississippi, it's all I need. I still hunt with all sorts of other things, but the 7-08 is top shelf as far as I' concerned.

I hunt with a 7mm -08 Savage. I have been for a good amount of years and it’s a great deer rifle, event dropped a Coyote with it once and my dad has all of the 7mm rifles and i want to try new ones and other rifles like a 30-06 and stuff 👍🏻

I love the short mags . My favourite by far is the 325 . It cycles smooth and hits hard . I have a 7 rem mag that is a great cartridge too. I don’t find it recoils bad at all

7mm rem mag is my top cartridge for big game!

If you build a custom Mauser with an intermediate length Mauser action, the 7x57 fits perfectly.

I'm in agreement that the 7-08 is the all around best 7mm at ethical distances. I live in Oregon where we have a forrested jungle on the west side and the rest is high open desert. The 7-08 is perfect for the "wet" side up to Roosevelt Elk, but on the dry east side I prefer my 280 AI for elk hunting where longer shots are the rule (still ethical distances) and I want more authority to go along with the flatter shooting. Hammers rule!

Yes sir, the 7mm is awesome and perhaps I’ll get one in 7/08. Thank you for a most excellent video.

I was gonna buy a Remington 7mm mag back in 1986. But, I wanted may Dad's opinion on this, since it was an expensive purchase. After he had me compare 7mm mag ammo compared to .270 Remington, the choice became very clear. I still have my .270 today! Many deer have been taken. My freezer stays full.

Thanks for the overview of the 7mm cartridges. I'm a big fan of 7mm Mauser and others. I have read the 7mm 08 compares favorably with the 308.

The 284 could be considered dead in hunting circles, but in the 1000yd target game it's the king.

Another great video from you especially the ethical hunting distances. Regarding your conclusion I would choose the venerable 7x64 though but the 7mm-08 is a great cartridge no doubt about that

Thanks for your recommendations of 7mm cartridges I have a surplus 7x57 Mauser and have owned a 7mm Magnum in the past but now have a 7mm 08 rifle on order. I like 7mm ballistics.