My old man has had a 7mm rem for as long as i can remember. Its his favorite gun next to his ppk. Both were gifts to himself.

The .30-06 is legendary. It can do more now with premium ammo, new powders, and bullets than it could WHEN it became legendary. I will stay with it.

In my 20 years living in Alaska, I always used a 30-06, 45-70 or .416 RM depending on the hunt/situation but I had a good friend who used a 7mm RM every year to hunt black bears, grizzlies & Moose and that round worked great. He always bagged them with one shot, I was very impressed.

Lived in Alaska 37 years shot maybe 60 big game animals, these were my 2 favorite calibers. Used strictly the 06 toward the end of my Alaska hunting years..

I LOVE my 7mm Rem Mag!! 30-06 is a great round for sure, I have shot both for over 25 years, but bang for the buck, I can't find anything on planet earth that has the versatility of my muzzle braked Vanguard S1 chambered in 7mm Rem Mag. I hand load and shoot 1/4 MOA groups on a regular basis.

I almost exclusively use a 30.06 for most everything. You can load it up or down depending on what you are hunting or expecting. I almost exclusively use Nosler Partitions sometimes factory and sometimes hand loads. When I have to up the game for say Brown Bear or large Black Bear I upgrade to a .35 Whelen still using Nosler Partitions in the 225/250 range. This has worked for 50 years or so.

As originally loaded by Remington, the 7 mag. offered little improvement over a handloaded .280, .270 or 30-06. Jack O'Connor wrote a insightful article comparing the factory 7 mag., .280, and 7x57 while on safari in Africa. His conclusion was there was little difference in performance on game when hit in a critical area. He also felt the cartridge would prove verypopular.

It just goes to show how successful the 30-06 is when everyone compares other calibers to the 30-06.

Superb briefing. Very thorough and fact-filled. No sale-pitch there. Very objective. Offers options with equally balanced pros and cons. Thank you. Very useful if you wish to decide between the two.

Great video and information.... I'm just getting caught up with yr videos.... And I'm enjoying them greatly.... Thank you. I Highly recommend Both. But the 30 06 has been with me for over 30 years. Has always done a great job with Remington Corlock and Federal Ammo...

Good job. I thought that was one of the most factual, unbiased, professional videos I have ever seen on utube. Keep up the good work. 🖒🖒🖒 Oh, one thing you didn't mention, unless I missed it, the 30-06, in most rifles it is chambered in, has a larger magazine capacity, so if you are in a bind with a grizzly, I don't know if that will actually help you or not, but I know it would make me feel better to know I had an extra round or two, at the ready in the magazine, over the magnum cartridge, just in case I should need it.

Very good review. Nicely done. I don’t think you can go very wrong with either. I live in western Canada and I have had both and used them on deer, moose, elk and bear with no problems using good bullets and rifles. One thing not mentioned when talking about rifles was magazine capacity. Sako, Winchester and Sauer rifles all will hold 5 rounds in the 30-06 magazine. They will hold 4 in the 7Rem. Not a big deal I don’t think but in griz country where I hunt and see them every year, I opt to use my 06 in which I can pop in handloaded 220gr Nosler Part at +2500fps for camp defence or close encounters. It’s more psychological than anything but there is some comfort in a full magazine of those 220s and 5 rounds of firepower.

Both great rounds. I own a rifle in both calibers. I use them both for deer hunting in northern Michigan. I know they are very close in performance inside 300 yds but I cant imagine not owning either one.

My Ruger no1 is 7mm Remington magnum and my Browning blr is 7mm08 and I love them both.

I have hunted most African game up to Eland with my 30 06. Had very good performance with Hornady 165 gr SST Superfomance on plains game at 150 plus meters and PMP 220gr for Bush hunting at less than 150 meters...

I bought the Sako 85 SS in 7mm rem mag. I love it more than my other Sako, .270!

I love how you presented this with more fact than bias. I actually have both of these calibers. Hunting with them for me is more situational/rotational, than it is about which is the best. Two legendary calibers in their own right. I guess it's just preference. Two shoulder surgeries have put me into the softer kicking rounds for whitetail hunts, more often than these two. I put these two calibers on two huge hogs last year though. #Knockdowns Thanks for sharing the overlooked details of these calibers.

Having shot deer with both, I can say that the deer don't know the difference. I've never had a deer shot with a 7RM do anything except drop, a few of my 30-06 deer have run 30-40yds. Recoil seems about the same, give or take a bit, stock design is the important thing. The amount of meat loss can be excessive with either. Since I'm only hunting whitetails, I far prefer my 7x57. It'll match the '06 and 7RM at under 300yds and I never need anything past 250yds anyways so I'm set. Great review of two American favorites!

Great video! Lots of good information.

I had a Remington 700 LSS in 7mm rem mag. When I was looking at it there was an identical rifle in 30-06. I opted for the 7 for the possibility of heading out for elk and wanted the better range. As far as recoil goes my cousin had a 30-06 and said that the 7 was easier to shoot than his was.

I have both .30-06 and 7mm Rem Mag. In my experience and research the 7mm Rem Mag has the advantage. Better ballistics all around in terms of energy, better wind drift and trajectory, faster speeds with same or comparable recoil, and better SD meaning better penetration in theory.

I own and hunted many times with both. Can't tell the difference in killing power on deer size game . Both are much more powerful than needed for deer hunting. As a shooter and hand loader I much prefer tñe 06. Magnum are a waste of gunpowder.but understand their advantage in long range shooting. The 06 gives a hunter everything he needs but we are Americans and use what we want.

Awesome video I subscribed it was so good.

You missed the minor point that 3006 usually has 5 rounds in the magazine vs 3 for the 7mm. Probably only meaningful hunting grizzle or moose. The 06 is cheaper as far as ammo goes. I reccomend you have both, and use one as a backup.

I'm from ND and I own both calibers and if you can't get it done with one of these two, I'd stay home or grab my .308

I hunt with and like both. Forced to pick one I prefer the 06 here’s why… the 06 cost about $ .15 - $ .30 less to reload per round. The 06 kicks a little less. I fit one more 06 in the magazine. The 06 is a little less destructive, I have been hunting with the 06 for 46 years and the 7mm for 32 years. I don’t take game beyond 300 yards ( eyes are getting older) so terminal performance is not as important in fact both are a bit heavy for white tail. It has often been said, the 30/06 works for everting from moose to mouse.

I really wish that they would start making a 30/06+P the 06 tends to not shine as well as it should against others based off the same case because of the lower pressure than the newer cartridges based off the same case. It also is often a bit underloaded. The one thing that often gets missed is that larger bore diameter does offer more power than a small bore if pressure is kept the same. The common trend of necking a cartridge down for a flatter shooting gun is often not understood well. This tends to lead to actual larger drops in power than is realized since unless the barrel is long enough to fully use the powder volume the speed often comes from just large drops in bullet weight. If loaded to the same pressure and loaded with 130 grain bullets with both shot out of 24" barrels or even 22" the results might be surprising. That said I am a fan of 7mm over .30 cal. I feel that 7mm performs best ballistically for a cartridge in these classes. If heavier bullets are needed then it is probably best to move further up bore diameter to give better stopping power.

I myself lean to the 06, but the 7mm rem mag is a very good cartridge also. The 280 AI ranks pretty much right with it though, or close enough, and has the added advantage of extra magazine capacity!! 😉😆

i was reading an online post about an Alaskan guide that actually prefers if the hunters use 7mm rem mag or 3006 spring if they are more accurate with it over a 338 win mag or 375 h &h because they are more accurate and can get a better shot rather than flinching with the higher caliber bullets , i cant remember the article name at the moment ....

Great video! If I was assembling a two gun big game arsenal these cartridges would be it.

I had a 7mmRM but pretty quickly sold it once I realized the extra damage it does to a whitetail kill. It's just way more than is needed and even with my 30-06 I've found using a 125 gr Core-Lokt is more than enough for a one shot take down of even a large buck on the woodlands I hunt (250y and in).

Les Bowman necked down a 338 case to 280, first dies were called 280-338. Les guide 2 people from Remington and they shot this round (Mike Walker) and presented it to Remington and in 1962 Remington sold it as the 7MM Rem Mag.

Can use a 22 accelerator round in 30-06 and shoots at 4000 FPS muzzle velo. Also handloads 30/06 more options

I always have trouble finding 7 mag… Academies in the Dallas area are always out- but recently I was in a Walmart of all places, thought I’d check their selection while I was there, and they just happened to have one box left 😂

My kinda breakdown... technically sound...hope you can do the same with powders and diversify!

It's all about ammo availability. Here in Australia there are 20 different factory loads available off the shelf up to 225gn for the 30-06, but only 10 stopping at 150gn for the 7mm RM. So to get the best hunting load for the 7RM which is a 175gn soft point, you have to hand load. And thats just a pain in the arse here with our gun laws. Heck, there are only a couple of ranges down here that permit magnum cartridges to be fired at all.

My dad always hunted his hole life till he passed away with the 30-06 and he shot lots of game with it

I have no knowledge regarding long range shooting/ targetshooting but i am fortunate enough to have about 40 + years of hunting experience and i have hunted basically everything in afrika exept for elephant , lion and leopard and some antilope that does occur in my part of the world. I dont readily get into conversations about what is the best hunting round because at the end of the day they all do the exact same thing and that is to bring home the meat but i will say this : i personally think that Americans like velocity way too much , for hunting velocity are not your friend it wastes way to much meat end of story. I also think that there is no such a thing as the perfect calibre but in saying that i think that you can get pretty close. In our bushveld ,hunting ranges usually varys from as close as 25 yards to around 150 yards , if for instance you hunt at this distance with a 300 win mag you will end up with a carcass thats basically shot to shit and you will probably end up with only the hind quarters and the front quarters most definately will become dogfood. Slow and heavy is the trick here and one of the best combinations i have ever found for the bushveld was a 308win shooting 200 gr bullets at around 2050 fps. Having said that in our open areas like the karoo or kalahari where shooting distance usually range from 250 yards to maybe 450 yards with 300 yards being probably the average, the fast magnum type calibres are mostly still to fast and still waste to much meat. At the moment my preferred rifle is in 30 -06 loaded at 2650 fps with 180 gr bullets , in the bushveld it does have a tendency to waste a bit of extra meat but i can also go hunt the karoo or kalahari with that same rifle and here it realy shines as a meat preserver. All in all amerikans created a almost perfect cartridge for hunting over 100 years ago in the 30-06 springfield and the germans did the same with the 7x57 mauser even longer back than that. Trajectory is the reason why most people favour fast calibres but i just dont buy it because at the end of the day what does 2 or 3 inches more bullet drop at 300 to 400 yards really matter? I would rather aim that 2 or 3 inches higher and have more edible meat to fill my freezer.

what about 175 grain barnes LRX or 180 grain Barnes TTSX for Grizzly?

I have owned and shot 30-06 for many years. Never had the opportunity to shoot a 7mm mag. Don't know what I'm missing.

A dozen or so years ago I was looking for a basic hunting rifle for use anywhere in North America, and I narrowed it down to a handful: 30-06, 270, 280, 284, & 7mm Rem Mag. I came upon a previously babied A-Bolt Medallion in 7mm Rem Mag, and I bought it. With that in hand, I have no real need for the others. If I had found any of the others first, they would have also rendered the others unnecessary. No NA beast is gonna care which one you use.

I am new to rifle hunting and have recently purchased a 6.5 PRC. I intend to hunt mostly in Colorado, too include elk, and I am looking to purchase a second rifle. What would you recommend? I do not think I want a 300 WinMag. I am also considering a 45-70 for a hunting in the timber. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. Great video!

There is a significant cost to the improved performance of 7mm REM. Mag vs. 30-06: amount of powder used. A quick look at my Hornady manual shows 50-55 grains for a max load of 175-180 bullets but 60-70 grains for 7mm REM Mag. The more I look at cartridge comparisons, the more I ask myself “is the incremental performance worth the cost?” Often the amount of powder used and/or recoil is the cost. A few of the newer cartridges really seem to shine. 7mm PRC hits a sweet spot. So does 6.8 Western. However, for 300 yards and in 270 Winchester and 308 Winchester are real contenders. Rifles and ammo are available, handloads can enhance performance, and improved projectiles make them more effective than ever.

You want longrange? Look at the Weatherby magnum lineup.

I have a Ruger 77 mark 2 7mm rifle. It is incredibly accurate but it kicks like a mule!!! It’s hard to shoot more than 15 rounds in one sit… That being said I wouldn’t trade it for the world!!! A beautiful shooting rifle!!!

I have both, I prefer the 30-06. Although I feel like the 7mm would be better for long range, where I'm from long range of 300 yards so nah,30-06 winner

The 175 gn Rem Mag and the 178 gn 30-06 both have a MV of 2750, yet the bullet drop after 500 yards is less for the 30-06 than for the 7mm Rem Mag? Then surely like-for-like bullets weren’t used. The bullet drop should be more for the 30-06, due to lower BC?

I don't understand these ballistic comparison charts. Why are the same bullet weights not used?

The 3006 never let me down ay love may 3006

That 175 vs 178 is the most interesting comparison…

Hey everyone, my name’s Christian, 22 in NJ but will be hunting w/a center fire rifle in PA eventually. Although I’ve been target shooting all my life, I wanted to start hunting therefore searching for a bolt action hunting rifle that I can pass down to my future generations. I’ve narrowed down my preferences to 1. Ruger American (100% USA made) 2. Winchester Model 70 3. Mauser M18 Reason for these 3 is (budget; sub $1,000) but also heard all three are fairly reliable for the money. As for chamberings, I’ve decided to go with the .270 WSM over 30-06 (even tho can’t go wrong with either, I’m primarily just hunting deer for now). My Question is this: I want a reliable, durable hunting rifle I can pass down each generation that isn’t ridiculously overpriced and chambered in highly available ammo despite the shortage (30-06 might have the .270 beat but I’ve read conflicting reviews) I’ve also heard about this 7mm rem but don’t know much about it compared to the other two cartridges so decided to stick with those. Anyway as for rifles, any suggestions out of the 3 brands I’ve listed above that would be well suited for generational pass downs? As in, would I be better off with old reliable Win Model 70? A more modern Ruger American or Mauser M18? It’s the gun Industry so I e learned everything is a preference but I am curious for anyone’s thoughts on the matter. Thank you for any all suggestions! God Bless

30-06 in stores near you... all that matters

6,5x55 swede, 30-06 and 9,3x62 is my choice

IIHO if you own a 30/06 or 7mm RM the performance of each on game inside 300 yds is equal. To get more performance you need to step up to the 7mm Weatherby Mag or 300 Win Mag. That being said dead isn’t by degrees. A dead Elk from any of the four cartridges are equally dead.

From a physics point of view the longer bullets,cars etc. Can travel faster and be more stable than shorter ones.

what does a belt do on a cartridge?

Those 7mm loads are kind of anemic no? My 160s are 3200fps

7mm rem mag is the best all around cartridge in the world. It actually shoots flatter and holds energy better than 300 win mag at long ranges. Anyways I own a 30-06 too. I’ve shot 1/2 inch thick plate with the 7mm rem mag and it went straight through it like cutting through butter and came out on the other side. I tried the same thing with the 30-06 and it did not make it through the 1/2 inch thick steel plate. That’s just with regular lead hunting loads. Maybe AP bullets in the 30-06 would have made it through. So there’s the difference. Also if a charging grizzly was coming at me I’d prefer the 7mm magnum because of the deeper penetration. The 7mm magnum would actually do more internal tissue damage on a large bear than what the 30-06 would. Not bashing the 30-06 I like it and it will get the job done. I’m just saying the 7mm rem magnum is ahead of the 30-06. Simple as that.

Why are people always comparing the 7mm Remington mag to the 3006 , why not the 300 Winchester mag . Compare the 280 Remington to the 3006 ,you know another standard caliber. 3006 isn't a magnum .

400 yards in I’m taking 30-06 every time, 180 grain Nosler Partition which retains over 85% of its weight cannot be beat, he also forgets to tell you that 30-06 comes in 24 & 26 inch barrels as well in some brands, 30-06 way more versatile & the big thing is 20% more bullet frontal diameter & yes that’s a big FKN deal when it comes to the “killing part” , over 400 yard shots I’m using 300 Weatherby Magnum anyway, would never consider 7mm mag shooting that far. 7mm Mag is a good rifle but it’s overrated & expensive to shoot, when it came out it was supposed be the end of the 30-06, LOL!!! There are more 30-06 rifles sold than any other caliber, with modern powder & bullet variations it’s only gotten better & better.

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For me the best is the 270 not mention here, with a 3006 case and smaller bullet with less recoil and flatter trajectory than the 3006, and a lot less powder than the 7mm Mag , the 270 its the best all around cartridge for the lower 48.

The two cartriges are much closer in energy tham mamy people are aware . Shootimg flatter at distamce doent mean a damn thimg if you kmow your bullet hold over drop dope from 400 yds and beyond.that just means at 400,500 and 600 yds a 7 mag shootsrs hold over marks are only a little closer together than a 30-06 . The 30-06 shootimg the 210 grain nosler accubomd LR bullet has over 1900+ ft lbs of energy at 600 yds at my humtimg elebation of 7000 ft . Stick that in yer pipe and smole it .amd all that from a non magmum cartrige It hangs with 7mm mag very closely . It also has a larger fromtal mushroom diaandd makes bigger holes With heavy high bc accubomds it is now a legitimate 700 yd elk rifle . Nothing agaimst 7mm mag But the old warhorse still shimes

Browning rifles are accurate just so you guys know

Don't forget the most important things that kill big animals. Bullet diameter and weight. 7mm will slightly win the paper ballistics aerodynamics contest. 30-06 will always fire bigger heavier higher sectional density bullets. Both max out even with 3200 ft pounds at the muzzle with top loads but remember the bullet is what actually kills. 300 wsm has all the pros of both its got big 30 bullets but 7mm ballistics. Also 300 wsm is a short action. Beating both out of a shorter lighter rifle. If you want the advantages of both 300 wsm great choice.

Use a 200 gr boatail 30-06

7mm magnum is the best all around cartridge for ALL big game properly loaded. Lite loaded factory loads are made for low recoil and less meat destruction. You can hand load bulky filler gun powder for light loads. Or spherical ball powder to fill the case with heavy bullets. Best all around cartridge.

Out to 300 yards, with modern ammo from same maker with 150 grain bullets, a big game animal won't know the difference.

7mm remmag

You left out the 270 win as a 3006 child and it’s also a faster flatter better 3006

More of a 7mm mag guy

Hard to believe that the 178 grain 30-06 out performs the 7mm Rem Mag in 175 grain..

There is no comparison the 7 mag will run circles around the 30-06 al day every day

10 gr more powder, magnum primers, more felt recoil and shorter barrel life.... had a 7 and unloaded it. Not worth it to me. Made zero difference to deer I hit with them both.

7 Rem Mag, shoots Flat like a 270, Hits like 06! 2 Different Cartridges here. Compare 7 Mag to 300 Mag. Much Better

if you can't kill it with a 270 maybe hunting is not your thing! Any doubt get the H&H. lol or machine gun... I use a 12 gauge for everything..My cousin uses arrows....he doesn't worry about recoil no loud noise lots of sneaking around....and the game gets harvested...

Why does everybody turn their videos into the same ole song and dance history lesson. So to compare these cartridges we must start when Adam and Eve were created Blah blah