8 Sided Swords - LK Chen Review 正楷八面劍評測

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In this video, I review LK Chen's Magnificent Chu Jian and Soaring Sky Jian as well as explore the Chinese bronze age and the history of the 8 sided jian. Bamianjian first emerged early in China's bronze age and saw continued use through the transition from bronze to iron. The iron age in China stands out as unique among many other contemporary societies due to the timeline that it occurred in. Some bronze weapons may have remained in use into the Qin and Han dynasties due to the way that iron was produced in the region as well as some unique properties of bronze weapons in the Warring States period. The 8 sided jian stands out as an ideal model to gain insight into the process of this change.
These blade can be purchased from LK Chen at the link below:
lkchensword.com/magnificent-c...
lkchensword.com/soaring-sky
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:48 China's unique Bronze Age
6:03 Magnificent Chu Details
8:58 Soaring Sky Details
12:47 Handling
14:55 Cutting
16:55 Conclusion
Source Material:
Books:
龔劍. 中國刀劍史. 中華書局, 2021.
皇甫江. 刀剑鉴定. 福建美术出版社, 2011.
馬明達. 說劍叢橋. 中華書局, 2007.
Wagner, Donald B. Iron and Steel in Ancient China. Brill, 1993.
杨宽. 中国古代冶铁技术发展史. 上海人民出版社, 2004.
Articles:
高守雷，张童心，范金辉. "浅议中国古代青铜剑的铸造技术." 铸造技术, vol. 39, no. 4 (2018): 808-811.
Haifeng Liu, Jianli Chen, Jianjun Mei, Jinbiao Jia, Lei Shi. "A view of iron and steel making technology in the Yan region during
theWarring States period and the Han dynasty: scientific study of iron
objects excavated from Dongheishan site, Hebei province, China." Journal of Archaeological Science, vol. 47 (2014): 53-63
Huang Weia, Winfried Kockelmann, Evelyne Godfrey, David A Scott. "The metallography and corrosion of an ancient chinese bimetallic
bronze sword." Journal of Cultural Heritage, vol. 37 (2019): 259-265
Jianjun Mei, Pu Wang, Kunlong Chen, Lu Wang, Yingchen Wang, Yaxiong Liu. "Archaeometallurgical studies in China: some recent developments
and challenging issues." Journal of Archaeological Science, vol. 56 (2015): 221-232.
廉海萍，谭德睿. "东周青铜复合剑制作技术研究." 文物保护与考古科学, 卷14, 12月 (2002): 319-334.
Mengyi Zhang, Yingfu Li, Zhaoming Xiong, Shijia Li, Yuniu Li. "Iron production and trading in Lingnan during the Qin
and Han Dynasties." Antiquity, vol. 94, (2020): 1-6.
于敏，潜伟. "金相分析技术在研究秦汉铁兵器制作技术中的应用." 化工技术与开发, 卷40, 期1 (2011): 31-36.
Theses and Dissertations:
Yaxiong Liu. "Iron production in the state of Qin during the Warring States period." PhD diss. University College London (Institute of Archeology), 2021.
Music
Intro Music Song = 春江花月夜 Artist: 顶斯华 Album: 中国古筝金曲, Vol. 3 (古筝独奏).
Guqin Song = 曲目：倒騎驢（古琴）
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Outro Music = Song: Chinese Thunder Drums Album: World Drums: African, Samba, Taiko, Chinese and Middle Eastern Music.

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@WhatIfBrigade 2 жыл бұрын

As an Anthropology major I love the metallurgy discussed here.

@thescholar-general5975 2 жыл бұрын

I also find this topic to be very interesting!

@nicholasholt6170 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the more in-depth look at the bronze and iron age in China alongside the review of the swords.

@thescholar-general5975 2 жыл бұрын

I am glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!

@thescholar-general5975 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks everyone for watching! I would just like to add that there is still a lot more to say about the rise of iron usage in China. What I discussed here is mostly a tentative hypothesis that will likely change as more archeological studies are conducted and the evidence grows. The field of Chinese archeometallurgy is expanding at a fairly rapid pace and it is my hope that in a few years we may have more answers to questions about the exact timeline of blast furnace usage and iron weapon adoption.

@user-yc2kn6ww7i 2 жыл бұрын

请问有考虑过在哔哩哔哩弹幕网搬运一下吗？

@thescholar-general5975 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-yc2kn6ww7i 我昨天在B站上发布了一个有中文字幕的视频，只要搜索“墨將點兵”就可以找我啦！

@user-yc2kn6ww7i 2 жыл бұрын

感谢感谢，这就去看

@camrendavis6650 2 жыл бұрын

I've heard of swords forged in Longquan county all the way back since the bronze age. I've always wanted to visit Zhejiang Province but there especially. I also heard that they teach Jianfa there, so that would be fun.

@thescholar-general5975 2 жыл бұрын

A visit to longquam is also on my bucket list.

@markd.s.8625 Жыл бұрын

this is the only video that has spoken of and shown composite bronze items and im completely fascinated about them now

@thescholar-general5975 Жыл бұрын

Yeah they are very cool and deserve to be studied in much greater detail.

@markd.s.8625 Жыл бұрын

@@thescholar-general5975 do you know of any other videos that cover this? by the terms ive been searching this might be the only video that spells it out that it's cast in stages in english unless im really bad at looking for this ive had somewhat more luck finding papers tho but not much so far (the one ive found doesnt seem to be translated all that well and it repeats itself a lot which is unfortunate)

@junichiroyamashita 2 жыл бұрын

What i would like from lk chen is a shorter Qin Dinasty jian,like the one one can find under the name Qin Shi Huang sword, with square black and steel fittings,around 60 cm blade. Like the Chu Jian but not stretched. They have a very "imperial palace official " look. I like the ancient chinese fittings style more than the modern Ming or Qing ones.

@dongf2618 2 жыл бұрын

The Ming and Qing dynasty fittings are too influenced by nomadic culture, which in turn was influenced by cultures such as Persia and beyond. Sometimes the fitting can be way too elaborate and loses some of the simplicity and elegance that were on earlier era swords.

@saberserpent1134 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work, Brother, as always!

@ryldauril6379 2 жыл бұрын

i owned a 8 sided Jian.. its a basically a steel baseball bat. Unless if the sides sharpend on the sides without a second bevel i sold mine cuse it was very heavy and i needed to make room. im sure the LK chen one is more light and less of a "baseball bat" of patten welded steel.

@thescholar-general5975 2 жыл бұрын

Many 8 sided jian are a little overbuilt which is easy to do with this type of design which favors toughness over cutting potential. These two blades here from LK Chen are balanced fairly well.

@zedlav6975 Жыл бұрын

Glad I found your channel! Question on these 8-sided jian: It seems, from this and other reviews I've seen, like the 8-sided designs aren't quite as good cutters as some of LK's diamond cross section jian, like the Flying Phoenix. It looks like just a touch more resistance going through bottles. Did you find that to be true? I had a good laugh watching Skall trying to cut pool noodles with the Chu jian.

@owenrussette2119 Жыл бұрын

Looks like the eight sided soaring sky model was designed to out maneuver and take advantage of the magnificent chu and roaring dragon chu style by way of length thickness and agility 🤔

@pinfu7179 2 жыл бұрын

Really love the Chu design on the scabbard. Is that lacquerware or just some synthetic paint?

@Finnv893 2 жыл бұрын

Now I want to know the difference between a well made bronze sword and a poorly made one, is it a consistent material to work with? Was professional bronze sword making better then than it is now?

@thescholar-general5975 2 жыл бұрын

Nearly all the chinese bronze blades that I have seen on the market don't really match the geometry of excavated artifacts. Also, many of them do not list the bronze alloy percentage which makes it impossible to tell if the blades are suitable for actual use. Hopefully this is soon changing. I have seen the bronze swords on Art of Fire and Iron's website and they look much better than most. I would be interested in getting a hold of one at some point for a closer look, but I don't have the time or funds for that at this time.

@jiaruncai1394 2 жыл бұрын

Can we have an episode talk about tang dao

@thescholar-general5975 2 жыл бұрын

I have got one on in the works! It will take a little bit though.

@user-yc2kn6ww7i 2 жыл бұрын

这个视频中的剑柄我看不太清楚。请问您这个剑柄是缑绳缠绕的吗？

@thescholar-general5975 2 жыл бұрын

嗯，是的!

@user-yc2kn6ww7i 2 жыл бұрын

哇！你这个是真的讲究啊！真地道！好复原！

@ryldauril6379 2 жыл бұрын

legit LQ jian with a double fuller for 160 bucks served me well for a 2 years now.. yo just have to cut away the stupid strings and make the handle fit for you avoid the 8 sided jian

@elshebactm6769 2 жыл бұрын

🤠👍🏿

@SouthofSalvation 9 ай бұрын

Whats with White Guys and Swords???

@thescholar-general5975 9 ай бұрын

Lol I blame Tolkien. And for me personally, The Last Airbender was a huge influence.

@user-yc2kn6ww7i 2 жыл бұрын

视频封面应该是越王勾践剑吧。靠谱的中国式青铜剑还是挺难买到的。

@hambone7181 2 жыл бұрын

Viking steel was the best change my mind

@thescholar-general5975 2 жыл бұрын

Migration era Europe had very good steel. However, the fact that some of the best Ulfbert blades used imported crucible steel from the Middle East implies that they were not not the only ones to create higher quality alloys. The true advantage of the blast furnace which China had was a massive increase in the quantity of steel that was available. The cast iron then had to be refined to make good steel.

@g.r.bilyeu4226 Жыл бұрын

When Iron was "invented"? LMAO! Iron is a chemical element with symbol Fe and atomic number 26. Nobody "invented" it.

@thescholar-general5975 Жыл бұрын

By invented I mean the invention of the bloomery furnace which actually allowed iron in raw ore to be extracted and accessible to humanity. Yes, meteoric iron existed before then and its use was limited. And of course, humans did not “invent” the element if iron itself. Though you could argue that we did invent some elements such as Oganesson because it does not exist in nature.

@g.r.bilyeu4226 Жыл бұрын

@The Scholar-General 墨將點兵 What an interesting non sequitur...

@thescholar-general5975 Жыл бұрын

@@g.r.bilyeu4226 If you understand the implication in the video talking about the invention of bloomery iron as opposed to the invention of iron itself, then you may be able to get something out of the video. If not, I apologize for not being precise enough with my language for you to intuit my meaning. I will make sure to avoid that potential misunderstanding on future metallurgy-related videos.

@g.r.bilyeu4226 Жыл бұрын

@The Scholar-General 墨將點兵 You're making videos claiming to be an expert. Accuracy matters. Otherwise, it's not information. It's misinformation.

@thescholar-general5975 Жыл бұрын

@@g.r.bilyeu4226 I never claimed to be an expert on metallurgy. And it is also impossible to be an expert on everything related to china. My training allows me to access secondary and primary sources that many others can’t and provides a historical context and framework to understand those sources. It does not make me infallible. You know as well as I that experts are entirely capable of mistakes. It is why the appeal to authority fallacy exists. My philosophy is to be open about my limitations and mistakes because I trust viewers such as yourself to have the cognitive capacity to evaluate claims based on the context from which they arise and the evidence provided. If you feel that all of this makes my videos unworthy of viewership, than that is entirely your prerogative. Of course, I would appreciate your support if you are genuinely interested in the topic, and I also appreciate any accurate critiques that you can make on any video because I want to know when I am spreading misinformation so that I can stop doing it.