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83 | The Relationship Between the Narcissistic Woman Child and Empathic Man

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Understanding Narcissism | Islamic Psychology

Understanding Narcissism | Islamic Psychology

3 ай бұрын

Following on from last week’s podcast, I will address the strange and troubled relationship between narcissistic women children and empathic men who suffer from codependency. This is the longest podcast yet, due to the multiple complexities found within these relationships that need to be explained properly for you to be able to understand, heal, help you make a decision (whether to stay or leave) and move on.
There are many factors that draw both of them to each other that most people don’t see on a conscious level. The paternal energy that many empath women have attracts the inner wounded child of many of these women who don’t want to grow up.
This podcast will give you a closer insight into the spiritual and psychological world of the woman child and how she becomes one. It also explains why it is important for young men and women to be aware of the woman child personality before they get married and why it is very important to be aware of their disorder.
If you are a parent, it will help you to either prevent your daughters from growing up with this disorder or will help you make sense of the behaviour of other women in your lives, such as your mothers, sisters and friends.
Please note that this podcast comes with a trigger warning!
This one is going to be a difficult pill to swallow for men (and many women I’m sure), but trust me, you’re going to want to hear it to the end. You’ll be glad you did. I advise that you listen to it in parts, so it’s easier to process.
Don’t forget to like the podcast if it helped you and kindly share it with others who would benefit from it.
Note: I dive into deeper detail into other subjects such as the woman child’s Qareen, smear campaign, back burner/new supply and manipulations in other podcasts, so you need to go through them too to understand this podcast in more depth. I didn’t want to repeat the same info in this podcast to not make it longer than it already is!.
If you'd like more details about this subject and more information about similar issues, subscribe to the channel for more podcasts. You can also check out my book 'The Muslim Narcissist' that provides 522 pages of education, counselling and guidance for everyone 📖
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This self-help book is the perfect gift for anyone who is suffering from their own narcissism or is a victim of a Muslim narcissist(s) who is using misinterpreted Islamic teachings to inflict harm on others. This book will help you to understand yourself, your spouses, family members and people in general.
I offer 1-1 counselling and coaching and group coaching for whoever needs it, please visit my website www.themuslimnarcissist.com/counsellingandcoaching for more information.
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@sarahkhawaja9617
@sarahkhawaja9617 2 ай бұрын
I cleaned my kitchen, cooked dinner AND i picked my son up whilst listening to this whole podcast in one go 😂
@Hajarlovesislam
@Hajarlovesislam 2 ай бұрын
Sister mona, you are not boring at all! ☺️ Alhamdoellilah for this blessing that you took the initiative to record this educational podcast. So that you can help the ummah. May Allah SWT reward you with Jannat ul Firdaus.
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Jazaki Allah khair ♥️
@slickperspective2745
@slickperspective2745 Ай бұрын
23:50 This is essentially what Western culture promotes. Sometimes even songs like "Unstoppable" by Sia indirectly encourage narcissistic and feminist attitudes. Songs like that advocate pushing beyond boundaries, saying things like, "Go further! You can do more! Forget what people say, forget faith, you're unstoppable!"
@lionofsouthasia
@lionofsouthasia 2 ай бұрын
When you look at a happy couple or a happy family and you feel down because you are dealing with a narcassist than you should look at those who had a harder time with a narc. And be thankful Allah SWT gave you a easier time and didn't abandon you.
@rahimamalik2080
@rahimamalik2080 2 ай бұрын
My parents relationship was described. Subhanallah. I really hope i can cure my childhood wounds successfully as I'm currently in my late 20s
@familyandfriendsfuntimes
@familyandfriendsfuntimes 2 ай бұрын
Your opening remarks about the covert narcissist are so true. My ex was very sweet and caring but over time she gave me nothing, like I didn’t matter. I was pouring myself into a black hole and becoming so drained and frustrated. A clinical psychologist described it as like “a country with no natural resources taking all the natural resources from you until there’s nothing left”. When I eventually started reacting badly, my ex would point at this and say that this was proof of my badness. Either way, I was wrong. Whatever I did was wrong. Any anger or frustration on my part showed I was wrong. I still have that voice that I am wrong in my head. It’s always there.
@imaanhussain5198
@imaanhussain5198 2 ай бұрын
Please try to educate yourself about gaslighting. She has gaslit you to the max. Don’t overthink or question reality, they rewire your brain deliberately. Over time you will heal, slowly everything will piece together like a jigsaw puzzle & you will see everything in its reality
@maryamk2407
@maryamk2407 2 ай бұрын
It didn't even feel like a 3 hour long podcast. For all the listeners out there, this amount of information is pure gold and much needed to learn and teach our minds and hearts how to be, basically, human. Thank you for this comprehensive teaching podcast. Honestly, at times, I don't know what i am, a narcissist, an empath, or a co-dependent! Seems like I have a lot of complicated traits. I'm certain that I'm not a psycho. But I love praying and learning about religion so I must not be a crazy narcissist but i do look 20 years younger than my age so I must have an empatic side to me which I cherish and would like to build on. Thank you for bringing enlightenment to our hearts. I was in such darkness about the self.
@Riirii-jz6de
@Riirii-jz6de 2 ай бұрын
Clarification for so many things Alhamdulillah, jazakallah khayrun
@MadinaA-di3kh
@MadinaA-di3kh 2 ай бұрын
May Allah bless you in the dünya and akirah. You have no idea how much you have helped in my life. You woke me up from deep sleep that I was in.😭
@Safestreet
@Safestreet 2 ай бұрын
I always listen to Dr Mona's podcasts more than once. This one will be heard at least 3 x. My sisters are narcs - one is a woman-child. Now, I know which type. Thank you Dr Mona x
@Hajarlovesislam
@Hajarlovesislam 2 ай бұрын
I do the same thing always listen it a few times again. Alhamdoellilah. Jazaka allahu khayr sister Mona.
@norhishambashir5495
@norhishambashir5495 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I'm going through...😢. I only realised her condition after 18 years of roller coasters
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
It’s a rough ride isn’t it.
@fredo2517
@fredo2517 2 ай бұрын
Thabk you Dr Mona! Allahumabarik. This along with your counselling sessions are very insightful. Will have to listen to this in bite sizes
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
You’re welcome ♥️
@shaistanaz6368
@shaistanaz6368 2 ай бұрын
Amazing podcast as usual ❤
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Glad to know x
@Hijabi_renegade
@Hijabi_renegade 2 ай бұрын
Good lord Mona. Am shooketh
@nonameone1665
@nonameone1665 2 ай бұрын
Hello Mona. Can you talk in detail about the role of the scapegoat in a psychopathic/narcissistic family and HOW to come out of a chronic freeze response after repeated trauma, especially if chronic and autoimmune diseases have already appeared? Thanks in advance.
@miahsazali
@miahsazali 2 ай бұрын
As salam Dr Mona and all. but some narc behaviours also may cause from neurodivergence brain 🥺 like adhd. appreciate for your advice. thank you! may Allaah bless you and everyone ❤
@An_Gha_
@An_Gha_ 2 ай бұрын
Why it's so hard and uncommon for emphath to marry each other..? I started thinking it's just test from Allah and to prevent to have jannah on Earth, because really an emphath couple would feel really amazing and great things could be achieved together to help humanity.
@nabulsiya
@nabulsiya 2 ай бұрын
I think so too.
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
It’s hard to find these empath couples because most people aren’t healed from their childhood traumas and they take their wounds into their adult relationships.
@imaanhussain5198
@imaanhussain5198 2 ай бұрын
I’m responding to you to give you hope. I believe that I’m am married to a man who has become empathetic. He had difficult traits to begin with but over the years he has developed, changed and grown massively. So 2 empathy may not come together initially but over time, with love and genuine feminine energy, some men can really benefit and become incredible alhamdulillah over time
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
@@imaanhussain5198 I believe this can happen when a man is alpha. Narc men can soften when being married to an empath woman who has firm boundaries so he doesn’t disrespect her. A man child can change but it’s more rare because he’s so beta and it’s much harder work.
@durranaybachey4555
@durranaybachey4555 2 ай бұрын
@2:48 They struggle to acknowledge their own mistakes they struggle in repentence. In Surah Tawba verses 80 thats why Allah say their tawba repent is not accepted even if the Prophet ask on their behalf forgiveness. Allah, dont forgive them. Even if they repent in front of you, they dont mean it by heart their repent is fake. They just do it to look good in front of others. Just like they treat others they treat God the same. Nauzoubillah!! Their thinking is very far beyond they think they can deceive Allah too.. They want to take Allah place too. Narcissist can be Jealous of Allah too try to take his place be in his place.
@Notmytoe
@Notmytoe 2 ай бұрын
I've noticed that most empath/empath marriages around me are either: 1. Arranged marriages that were planned by healthy muslim families. The older relatives use their wisdom to match a good couple. 2. Non muslim relationships that started with zina, but the two empaths dated around beforehand and learned through their bad experiences, then eventually settled with another empath. Obviously the second one is not an option for us. But thank you for providing all this information to bridge that gap in knowledge. I've been relying on my instincts a lot, but it's hard to know for sure without the experience.
@durranaybachey4555
@durranaybachey4555 2 ай бұрын
@2:26, 27. Ya Narcissist like money wealth and they do achieve it. They do get what they want in this world.Thats why prophet Muhammad never want to live wealth and live a luxurious life when he was offered when Allah offer him i can give you the best of best of All.
@RedBerrySky7
@RedBerrySky7 2 ай бұрын
after my divorce with my ex wife (she did the reverse discard and to keep my self respect and dignity I walked away from the marriage) she married 4 months later with another men. Does it mean that she is now married to a narc men? because since the day she got married to him she is not allowed to see her mother or to travel to her even though she lives 3 hours away with train. And a few weeks back she saw a video of me getting engaged and out of a sudden she blocked the instagram of my mom and sister even though my mom and sister never had her on instagram like what does this mean and doing this after 3 years? can you please explain this behaviour dr Mona? (her child houd house situation was that her mom and dad always were fighting from waking up till sleeping eveyday)
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Salam brother, yes the new supply they go to after a reverse discard is always a narcissist or toxic codependent. You can’t reverse discard someone after you’re “done with them” and get a better person. Both men and women end up with someone like them after they do this to someone good. Their misery causes them to constantly stalk you afterwards (because they are ashamed and too embarrassed to ask you to take them back) so when they find out you’re engaged they go into a rage and hate everyone who is happy for you. They know what they lost and it kills them. They will stalk all your family members for a long time too after you walk away. They always think you’ll come back begging and when you don’t they have no choice but to live with the narc they are now stuck with.
@imaanhussain5198
@imaanhussain5198 2 ай бұрын
I really like how you took the time to answer this brothers question. May Allah swt help him heal him, I could feel his pain through his words
@RedBerrySky7
@RedBerrySky7 2 ай бұрын
@@imaanhussain5198 thank you. May Allah his mercy be upon you .
@hussainsharmin661
@hussainsharmin661 2 ай бұрын
Can it be same for a narcissistic man where he gets you pregnant as soon as you get married he ask you to have a child as soon as you get married because so then he can manipulate you so the women don't get out of the marriage she feels trap because she has kids
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Yes this is very common unfortunately.
@aliceashlyn3135
@aliceashlyn3135 2 ай бұрын
It sounds like everyone I know, including me, will fall into either one of these terms. "Covert" " overt" " npd" " woman child" "man child" .... I am curious to know what is the normal person? I am new to this podcast, is there a previous episode that talks about what is normal?
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Normality is subjective. Everyone will see “normal” in their own way. For example, it’s normal to be an angry narc after sexual abuse and normal for codependents to be the way they are when they don’t understand what happened to them. The real question is, what makes you a good person? Check out podcast 25 :)
@aliceashlyn3135
@aliceashlyn3135 2 ай бұрын
@themuslimnarcissistbook Thank you, Dr. Mona! I will look into 25. I did also just completed your personality quiz and submitted an application for counselling.
@safina2022
@safina2022 2 ай бұрын
Salam Dr Mona. KZfaq have put ads in every 6 minutes. Please can you look into this. JazakAllahu khair
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Wsalaam I have KZfaq premium so I don’t get ads in any videos I watch
@fishno15
@fishno15 2 ай бұрын
You can download and watch so you won't get any ads
@SarahPearl-rm6gp
@SarahPearl-rm6gp 2 ай бұрын
Salamalaikum Dr. Mona. My mom’s a narscissist.
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Wsalaam.. I’m sorry to know that. May Allah help you and guide her 🤲🏻
@SarahPearl-rm6gp
@SarahPearl-rm6gp 2 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@imaanhanif8863
@imaanhanif8863 2 ай бұрын
Assalaamu alaikum Dr Mona. I was having a conversation with my brother and he mentioned that dark empath are the worst? I hadn't heard of this term. I looked it up and it says that a dark empath is an empath who cannot feel empathy. Is this true?
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Wsalaam, there’s no such thing as a dark empath in the spiritual sense, as the Nafs of an empath is high, so you can’t be both empath and narc at the same time, you’re either one or the other with a sprinkle of each others traits. This is the name narcs gave to empaths who know their game and can’t be fooled :) it’s when narcs believe an empath is more of a powerful narc than they are because they can’t defeat them. Take Omar (ra) as an example. Many people would have perceived him as a narc during his life as a Muslim, due to his toughness, but he wasn’t. He was a supernova empath (one who knows how to deal with all people effectively and is a leader people felt safe with). Narcs didn’t like him because he was undefeatable, including Iblis, who was terrified of him. So if you look at it that way you’ll see where the term “dark empath” comes from, it’s the empaths who show no empathy for abusers, corrupters, hypocrites and people who need to be punished etc. We all have narc traits but smart people use them for the greater good like Omar (ra) did. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have been able to eliminate crime and poverty in his time. He was my favourite Sahabi and Khalifah and this type of empath is the rarest. All humans and jinn don’t want to cross this person, because he or she is at the spiritual level of prophets and has a very deep love for Allah. Everything they do is for Allah. The Prophet saw said (with all the toughness Omar (ra) had to the point even good people feared him) that if there was to be a prophet after him it would have been Omar (ra). Hope that answers it for you and makes sense.
@hajira5013
@hajira5013 2 ай бұрын
Man child woman child what does that mean
@An_Gha_
@An_Gha_ 2 ай бұрын
Also another question sister Dr Mona: many psychotherapists failed to recognise narc abuse, inflicting in us double pain and trauma. What can be done to report them? They ask for proof but how can we prove all the wrong things they said during the video call sessions..
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Then they aren’t the right psychotherapists to be speaking to if they ask you for proof and don’t understand narc abuse. Only a court judge would ask you for that.
@An_Gha_
@An_Gha_ 2 ай бұрын
Sorry, by "They" I meant the people where you are supposed to sent the complain about the abuse you received from a licensed therapist. They want proof of the abuse or wrong they did. But of course we don't have as the sessions are just talking. How can one report the wrong they did?
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
@@An_Gha_ ok, in this case you would just need to file a complaint with the board that issues licenses to psychotherapists and take it from there.
@An_Gha_
@An_Gha_ 2 ай бұрын
Thank you dear. X
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
@@An_Gha_you’re welcome, please check my answer above again, I amended it.
@Hadmarzter
@Hadmarzter 2 ай бұрын
Buckle up this might get bumpy
@durranaybachey4555
@durranaybachey4555 2 ай бұрын
Narcissists do not really believe in a God. If they think there is God the Narcissist believe they can Munipulate and decieve that God just like everyone else. It is also mentioned in Surah Bakrah verses 8 and 9. 2:8) "There are some who say: “We believe in Allah and in the Last Day,” while in fact they do not believe. (2:9) They are trying to deceive Allah and those who believe, but they do not realize that in truth they are only deceiving themselves"..
@fredo2517
@fredo2517 2 ай бұрын
What episode is the Narcissist pettiness and their plotting
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Number 67
@hajira5013
@hajira5013 2 ай бұрын
Have you got the man child video
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Number 82
@BeLife1
@BeLife1 2 ай бұрын
How can I get the original book?
@themuslimnarcissistbook
@themuslimnarcissistbook 2 ай бұрын
Which country are you in?
@BeLife1
@BeLife1 2 ай бұрын
@@themuslimnarcissistbook Indonesia
@BeLife1
@BeLife1 2 ай бұрын
@@themuslimnarcissistbook Indonesia
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