85mm 1.4GM vs 85mm 1.8 | Is the Gmaster worth $1200 more?

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5 жыл бұрын

In this video, I compare two of Sony's 85mm offerings and see if the Gmaster lens is worth $1200 more than the F1.8 variant. I test the Image quality, Focus speed and build/feature set!
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@patlee6534 3 жыл бұрын

As a new Sony A7riii owner who is outfitting her kit, yes, I really like and need these kinds of comparison videos. This one was to-the-point; the real shooting examples you used are wonderfully illustrative, and you know what you're talking about. Thanks!

@VZAAGE 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparison. Definitely made my decision a lot easier.

@DomRandolph 4 жыл бұрын

I want all videos like this, really helps me know I’m buying the right lenses and you make them in a way I can trust.

@3rdRuben 5 жыл бұрын

0:27 Throw the GM, next time 😜

@zZjak793Zz1 5 жыл бұрын

yes, love this! I’m looking at 85s right now, and this was really helpful! Definitely would love to see more

@dovber90 5 жыл бұрын

I love my 85 1.8. Don’t see the point in spending that much more for not a lot of gains. Great video as ever.

@charlesheinzphotography1637 5 жыл бұрын

exactly, especially for 1200$ you can get another decent lens

@TheDajunior 5 жыл бұрын

@Phil Jones65 adopted lenses perform really poorly and they are designed for dslr which means huge size and bad weight balance on mirrorless.

@TheDajunior 5 жыл бұрын

@Phil Jones65 yes and no. In fact lenses itself are similar in size on any system. Bigger lenses either have bigger aperture or more complex optical scheme. So saying that some minolta lens is smaller means that it has smaller operture or older optical scheme causing worse image quality. It's why for example takumar 50 1.4 is so tiny in comparison to carl zeiss 50 1.4 lens for sony. The difference is about 3 times in size. My point was - what reason to buy a compact mirrorless and make it bulky and performing poorly using adopters? I bought it because mirrorless have accurate AF(no misses like on dslrs), eye AF functionality(doesn't work via adopters except insanely pricy metabones) and small size. To have these advantages it's necessary to have native lenses. Moreover many(but not all of course) native sony lenses have best image quality on the market. For example sony 85 1.8 fe from this video has 46 points on dxomark. There is no better lens on the market for such price. So I don't understand how you're going to save money using adapters and loosing AF performance and some features like eye AF if there is no cheaper dslr lens with better or even equal image quality on the market.

@TheDajunior 5 жыл бұрын

@Phil Jones65 the truth is you save money buying native lenses. Adapter + dslr lenses only seem to be saving of money but the reality is you sacrifice performance and features. If you had dslr lenses before switching to a7 - it's another story, but I didn't have any lenses before. So if you buy lenses from the scratch you don't save anything using adapters + dslr lenses because they are not really cheaper. And you are not forced to buy GM lenses because there are alternatives. I also used only central focusing point before when I was a canon shooter, but it works only on telephoto lenses. If you try this trick on a wide lens you'll get a focus miss. You can also say that AF isn't necessary, before people used manual focusing all the time. Okay, but before people also used horses as a transport, so I don't get your point. I don't want to pay for modern technologies but use them as in cave times.

@TheDajunior 5 жыл бұрын

@Phil Jones65 99% of vintage lenses are crappy. You can think that your lenses are sharp until you try 55 1.8 or 85 1.8. So yeah, better don't try them because you will be totally disappointer how bad old lenses are. I tried them a lot and my decision is paying for native sony lenses. Smart people don't waste their time for crappy vintage lenses.

@philohagan2717 5 жыл бұрын

To answer your question, YES keep doing this type of comparison. Your honest comments are a big help.

@BenjaminBNJMN1 5 жыл бұрын

As someone who just made the jump to Sony, I'd love to see more of these. Very interested as I build my bag up to what it used to be

@SteveMillerhuntingforfood 5 жыл бұрын

awesome video, thanks....saw your interview on T&C a few months ago and started following you....so glad I did. You are fantastic!

@1Know1tHurts 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Manny! When I was chosing between these two, I had similar impressions. Sony's 85mm f1.8 is praised by most reviewers and that speaks a lot. For non-pros like me a cheaper option is the way to go. For working photographers the f1.4 is a no brainer, in my opinion. Thanks for inpsiring us, man! I bought Sony system thanks to you and a couple of other photographers and have no regrets at all. Cheers.

@MattFicarra 5 жыл бұрын

That was a very helpful video. Even looking at the pictures on youtube after some compression I could totally see what you were describing. The 1.8 was sharper but the 1.4 did provide for a smoother more aesthetically pleasing picture overall. I can understand how one could make a good argument for preferring either lens.

@jarodrobledo3669 5 жыл бұрын

Love these types of videos and appreciate your honest response to the lenses. You should review the 16-35 2.8 G master if you ever get your hands on it thats a lens i might be down to spend the money on

@jaynjacksonfan 5 жыл бұрын

Great content man! Would def love to see more of these!

@ThePatels 5 жыл бұрын

I have 85mm f/1.8 and I love it. That's my go-to for Portrait and B-roll. Definitely make these types of video as they are super helpful.

@JesusGodHolySpirit3 2 жыл бұрын

Manny Ortiz fix your pubic hair on your face dude or just don't be in front of the camera yes

@DevynFromCFXTV 5 жыл бұрын

Have you ever had an issue with the 85GM not responding at all? Mines doesn't. I upgraded firmware and everything. I can manual focus all day, but any auto functions no. It did to move once and made a high-pitched squeak for a second but never took a picture. Nice Video thanks.

@pauld2027 5 жыл бұрын

Great review Manny! Give us more like this!

@brandonscott2179 5 жыл бұрын

Solid! Been waiting for this! Thanks Manny! 💯🔥

@earthlingaves 4 жыл бұрын

Best lens reviews I have seen so far! So helpful! Thank you!

@daveassender1099 5 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you, Manny. I have both - the 1.4 for dreamy rendering, but the 1.8 for travel, which is where I do 50% of my photography.

@motivation_nation_yesterday 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparison Manny - I’m in process of setting up a lens set for my A7riii - and these are very helpful. Thanks m8!

@asunahealer 5 жыл бұрын

Love the comparison! Helped me out. Great stuff as always!!

@carlos-ramirez 5 жыл бұрын

These kind of comparisons are great Manny. It helps us to decide what kind of equipment we would like to work with. Thanks

@scooterhey 5 жыл бұрын

GREAT VIDEO!!! I love your honesty. It really helped me decide what I need to do. You're the best.

@Philbythelake 5 жыл бұрын

Love your videos, Manny. Just started photography myself. Good to see great photographers from Chicago!

@RamyElSawa 5 жыл бұрын

please make more videos like this one, it is actually really helpful for me to decide what to buy based on videos like this!!!

@desantismedia6176 5 жыл бұрын

As usual, an informative video from an authority in the field. Thanks Manny. Our team gets a lot of perspective from your vids. Always enjoyable.

@aerincollins1175 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent review as always . Love your work Manny

@Photogfun 5 жыл бұрын

This was perfect. You just helped me make my mind up on the 1.8. Please keep making videos like this. It was great.

@Pokie44 5 жыл бұрын

Loved the video, very informative and helpful. Would like to see more lens comparisons!

@vnew06 5 жыл бұрын

Great vid bro, keep these comparisons vids comin.

@StratosAgiani 5 жыл бұрын

Yes for evf videos and yes for comparisons to similar lenses. Merry Xmass and Happy New Year!

@evapearson7541 5 жыл бұрын

I have been going back and forth between these two lenses; thank you for this review it was so helpful!!

@sheshewantit45 5 жыл бұрын

i was not expecting a spooky black song on a manny ortiz video, hahaha dope!!

@WingMan1964 5 жыл бұрын

I have the 85 1.8. I consider sharpness more important than a little bit better bokeh.

@vpr5562 5 жыл бұрын

If you shoot people you may see everything on their face and it becomes unpleasant.

@THEJEDEYEMASTER 5 жыл бұрын

it is more more important and people wont notice the less or slightly less blur to the back. they will notice the sharpness though. think about this you can add more blur by moving yourself back a bit and having the model come with you. with the 1.4, to get its sharpness of the 1.8, you have to stop it down a little to get that which negates the benefit of the 1.4. you want sharp at 1.4, the sigma art trumps the GM. search vids and see yourself.

@Zakna 5 жыл бұрын

@@vpr5562 blur can be added, sharpness cannot

@itguy5192 5 жыл бұрын

instagram.com/p/Blqbm6FAmf6/ Can anybody let me know , can 85MM GMaster lens can click such photos, closeup face photos, please reply

@ramspencer5492 5 жыл бұрын

The GM is very sharp by modern standards and in the the 85mm focal length there's no denying that it's rendering is the more pleasing classical-esque portrait lens. The Sony is way cheaper and waaaaay lighter. That's why it's a winner to me. I prefer the GM rendering for portraits in this focal length; hands down. The Sony makes much more sense for most people.

@futc.photography 5 жыл бұрын

I shot with the 85 1.8 and I have to say, what an awesome lens. It's crazy sharp and I actually kind of like the bokeh. The lens generally gives a great mood in images.

@AllThingsExciting 5 жыл бұрын

Thank You! You are truly an invaluable resource for anyone new to Sony Alpha CAmeras and Lenses. I love your photography as well!

@duckd50 5 жыл бұрын

One of your best reviews. Side by side with the same subject. Well done. We need more of these

@gregordeissler2094 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, just wanted to say that i love your channel and that it has become my favorite place for portrait photography. you are doing an excellent job explaining how you achieve your photos and i really like your work. Best Gregor

@jeffreybual 4 жыл бұрын

Love your content bro. Always good stuff!

@creativechr1s 5 жыл бұрын

Loved this video. I’ve been trying to decide between the two

@jbradford5151 5 жыл бұрын

Helping me make easier choices, appreciate it Manny!

@BROOKLYNPOETZ 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent vid Manny. Fuego as usual.

@karafuru7666 5 жыл бұрын

I personally prefer the aperture ring because I can change the settings with the camera off, but I do understand your gripes with always accidentally touching it. In a similar fashion, I disable the touchscreen because I always accidentally hit the corner triggering a focus point in the corner. But I am also glad to have it since it makes video focusing much easier

@brettnfk 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, and has actually given me pause as to my certainty over my decision to make the 85 GM my next lens purchase. So, having also had my sights on the Sigma 105 1.4, I'm dying to see your full review of that now!

@jff757 5 жыл бұрын

Very informative Manny! As someone who does NOT earn money off photography, I always grab the cheaper, albeit high performing, lens. Whenever I do come across a couple thousand dollars while raising a family, camera lenses never get put on the top of my priority list. That said, I think of my 85mm 1.8 as a top premium portrait lens (in my own little world) because in my opinion, it STILL gives me that dreamy background look under the right conditions.

@user-ix9wm4eg2g 5 жыл бұрын

Great review , a comparison video I have been waiting to see.

@dandonovan1 5 жыл бұрын

Nice job on the comparison. Keep them coming!

@vieuxsviewsphotography 5 жыл бұрын

I like these lens comparison videos. Keep them coming!

@ftho1986 5 жыл бұрын

This is exactly the kind of video I've been looking for!

@mastrorj68 5 жыл бұрын

There's one more lens you should consider. Zeiss Batis 85 1.8 with OSS

@Sam-gv6lm 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve been trying to decide on which one to buy for the last 2 weeks, this was helpful. Thanks for this ✌🏻

@nezikaras9613 4 жыл бұрын

Samuel Shaw which one did you buy?

@rogerrojas3701 4 жыл бұрын

Loved the explanation Manny. I wasn't sure if the price difference would give me that much of a different result but after watching this video, I realized it did not. Thanks again for making this!

@jorgeschumacher2833 5 жыл бұрын

Thx for your videos, Manny! Absoluty love your work. Greetings from germay 💪🏼😎

@ACDGibson 5 жыл бұрын

Manny!! Great vid as always! It would be great to see how that new sigma 56mm f1.4 compares to Sony 85 mm f1.8! Aps-c vs full frame!

@lucasvaldivia 5 жыл бұрын

Great job Manny! Very useful video

@crome2298 5 жыл бұрын

Very good video Manny keep them coming, As a new photographer and a new customer to Sony gear this content is really helpful!

@blaineaburnettsr 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome comparison. Nice to see and honest opinion of the two.

@chinguyen2302 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I googled both lenses and your are the only video that popped up. You just saved me $1200. Omg thank youuu

@Anup007 5 жыл бұрын

Love these types of videos Manny! It's always a struggle on deciding between two similar (or what looks to be) lens. The 1.4 is amazing and your conclusion was on point. I'll have to stick to my 55mm Zeiss for now.

@Shan9909 5 жыл бұрын

Best comparison ever. Like this video. Cause I had lots of confusion with both of those lenses. Thanks Manny👍👍👍

@RealRaynedance 5 жыл бұрын

I do very much like videos like this. Anyone else who does anything like this *tends* to only post short 20 or 30 second clips of just one aspect that you covered. It's helpful to have it all in one place with someone who has a better idea of what they're doing and better ways to record and show the results. One idea I have though is comparisons to vintage lenses. You mention you like the rendering of the G Master more, and vintage lenses are known to be desirable for their rendering (thinking specifically about the Nikon 105 f/2.5). A good *knowledgeable* comparison to older lenses if someone is willing to sacrifice AF for certain characteristics would be cool.

@travisbarron6506 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparison bro! Most def gonna cop both of these, as my budget expands! :D

@TDBGaming_ 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely more of these, please!

@hukumongdu 5 жыл бұрын

Manny you helped me make my decision. Most practical review ever.

@mauricered2000 5 жыл бұрын

Lol I was literally researching this yesterday so glad you dropped this

@blacklionsmedia6713 5 жыл бұрын

Very timely video thanks Manny! I'm still using my 85mm 1.8 that's the only lens i have since I got my sony a7rii in March. It's an amazing lens!!

@ramspencer5492 5 жыл бұрын

?!!!!!!! You need another lens man! if you're just going to get 1 more soon, maybe a 35, 50 or 28.

@george.arthur 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man, I have an A7III with a 85mm 1.4 GM, Eye Focus misses almost all of the shots, camera locks the eye but when zoomed, the focus is on the ears. Do you know any setting I might be missing? (Tried moving and static person, AFS and AFC, 1.4 and 1.8). Love your channel, great content!

@LeeZavitz 5 жыл бұрын

I shot with the 85mm f1.8 for awhile and although the af is fast and the lens is sharp I find the bokeh very busy and even slightly swirly. I wasn’t a fan. That said, it’s a good value for a super sharp lens. It would be perfect in the studio. Good comparison bro.

@nicocastillo2099 5 жыл бұрын

Hey man. Just passing by to let you know that I am waiting for your next video. Been a fan of your work. Hope you are doing well! 🙌

@adidasaddict 5 жыл бұрын

I have noticed the swirl in a few shots, to be honest I quite it but I do use a lot of old manual focus lenses so maybe it's because I'm quite used to that kind of rendering.

@TravMan3211 5 жыл бұрын

Swirl or not, a $1200 different is astounding for the small difference in image quality. Same with my $200 sony 50mm 1.8 haha a great lens.

@TravMan3211 5 жыл бұрын

@@john_young Honestly depends on who's looking at the image, 100% of non-photographers cannot tell the difference between these two lenses. Yes if you're a content creator for other photographers they may nitpick these types of things but shooting for clients that have no photography background the difference will not be noticed there for a $600 lens that produces practically the same quality (and sharper) is by far worth it.

@TravMan3211 5 жыл бұрын

@@john_young I mean if you really wanted to you could always simulate that exact same effect you're talking about with the smart phones in Photoshop. Mobile devices are only simulating the blur effect anyways. I do find it hard to believe clients would notice the difference but we could argue that all day. Still not noticeable enough to pay $1200 more, I've seen multiple reviews that said they had wished they got the $600 85mm before dropping 2k on the GM. Multiple from credible photographers ^.^

@FredGary 5 жыл бұрын

Love the comparison video so I can see for myself how the lens react and preform.

@user-lz2hd6wc7f 5 жыл бұрын

That is a very useful advice! Thank you Manny

@_cjmccullough 5 жыл бұрын

Love the comparison video but also love the actual shooting much more. Good content !

@robertbarel896 5 жыл бұрын

great video! keep on doing more of these .

@DheeKumar 5 жыл бұрын

This was so helpful, although you focused on the photography side, you presented it from a video format which helped me as a videographer. Props to you!

@jahzzii7 5 жыл бұрын

Honest review! Thanks man!

@DonGerico 5 жыл бұрын

It's great seeing the EVF. I am thinking about upgrading from my 6D to the a7iii and the 85mm 1.8 looks great. Such a good price too.

@contemporaryimaging3808 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for confirming this. I am a Nikon shooter but I just bought the A7III to do more video and some portraiture. I just bought the 85mm 1.8 to do a mixture of both and I'm pleased to see it has a little better autofocus speed. Thanks for all your reviews.

@JFebrillet 5 жыл бұрын

hey manny can you do a video on how to take photos of two models and nice blurred background?

@BenSussmanpro 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a thorough comparison. (I just purchased the 1.8. but watched this out of curiosity). I really, enjoy your videos - entertaining & helpful.

@princephoenix 5 жыл бұрын

Manny whats the name of the song in your video? I know its from epidemic sound but cant find it.

@onQQuincy 5 жыл бұрын

Can we get a Samyang 85mm f1.4 vs Sony 85mm f1.8 video like this? Since they are closer in price

@ajschot 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for your video! love this! Just ordered the 85 1.8

@WALKITOFFDavidSmith 5 жыл бұрын

Love your real talk reviews. Thank you.

@ericroberson240 5 жыл бұрын

Great job..... Yes, keep doing more videos. Love your work

@gavinguadagnoli3103 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! I like how you had Diana walk away form the camera. When researching lenses to figure out how much subject / background separation is possible at far distances it's really hard to find sample pics or videos where they have the subject walk away for the camera

@vitaleonis1196 2 жыл бұрын

This comment should have more thumbs up 👍

@user-zs1fs5ex7f 5 жыл бұрын

will be waiting for more comparisons!

@janneost 5 жыл бұрын

Great comparison video! Really like it!

@icom782 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, is the 35, 50 and 85mm 1.8 from Sony are good for video recording? Im wondering if I should go for it or Zeiss/Gmaster instead? I think it's not worth paying 3000$ more for all of those lanses.

@NastyNupe6 5 жыл бұрын

i like like your video tutorials and comparisons. When you do the comparisons i will be easier to see the difference between the two images if they were side by side.

@aportraitontech5218 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison! Been researching the 85gm for a bit, and recently became aware of the 85 1.8.

@williamreedy338 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. Love comparison videos.

@luisvargas4944 3 жыл бұрын

Great video down to the point and made my decision on what lens to purchase. Thanks!!!

@mlaudio2 5 жыл бұрын

Thx Manny for this video. Can you compare also the new 85 1.4 samyang please? Greetings from Italy

@adrianmack7750 5 жыл бұрын

Much needed comparison. Thanks champ!

@kenowen7353 4 жыл бұрын

How does the 1.8 compare to the 1.4 in a back lit situation? I shoot a lot of sunset type pics and need a lens that won’t get any ghosting or a washed out look.

@hoanvokim 5 жыл бұрын

Could you please make a video compare between Sigma 24mm f1.4 with Sony 24mm f1.4 GM? I am considering to get one of them!

@krisz443 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video. Just got a new A7 IV and trying to decide between 85mm lenses and this video sealed the deal!

@sumanswarnakar7157 5 жыл бұрын

Thank u sooo much... I really like these kinda detailed comparisons...

@wudwace 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video Manny, succinctly and on the subject! :)

@edlazor6698 5 жыл бұрын

Which camera body did you use for this test? Was it the A7RIII or the A9? I have heard the autofocus performance will be more equal between the two lenses on the A9, but I'm wondering if that is your experience.