8GB vs 16GB M1 MacBook Pro - How much RAM do you NEED?!
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Күн бұрынIs 16GB of RAM actually a limitation on the M1 MacBook Pro? Is it worth the extra $200 compared to the base 8GB model? We go in-depth with real-world tests to answer those questions!
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In this video, we compare the $1299 M1 MacBook Pro with 8GB of RAM to the $1599 model with 16GB of RAM to see if 8gigs limits the performance in a variety of tasks.
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@MaxTechOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
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@cebuexisting835 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. please tell me what is the name of the programs for viewing device statistics directly from the panel as in the video
@VictorTan 3 жыл бұрын
@@cebuexisting835 You're looking for iStatistica! Here's a link: www.imagetasks.com/istatistica/
@sergeydev8273 3 жыл бұрын
Вадим, мерси за столь детальный разбор! :)
@aliyalcin8173 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys! I think, because the processor power is the same, similar performance results are obtained when running the same application. But ram performance comes about in multitasking.
@treyquattro 3 жыл бұрын
multi-tasting? Yum.
@edertables 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! That’s what I’ve been waiting for, thanks :)
@vladiksas 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree 💯
@andrespizzi2504 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@csongormikos9483 3 жыл бұрын
Megvan az új gép?😅
@jeffgracianette9785 3 жыл бұрын
Yes thank you.
@redcovenant 3 жыл бұрын
Got my MacBook Air M1 8Gb this weekend, upgrading from a maxed out 2014 MBP 15”. The new Air leaves the MBP in the dust, hasn’t broken a sweat yet and running safari, chrome, slack, Affinity Photo etc. Also went a whole working day on the battery, went from 100% to 70% with heavy use.
@maxpink 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what video editor cares about exporting time at those numbers - grab a beer and chill. You don't even see a different in 8GB vs 16GB until you hit 8k! Insane. Save the money and get the 8GB unless you work for Marvel Studies or something. Excellent Video!
@fsm5032 2 жыл бұрын
My machine at work is 512Gb of ram. We have some at 1.5Tb of ram. I have a funny feeling at Marvel Studios they aren't pissing about with 16Gb or even 128Gb.
@MickiMinach 2 ай бұрын
Yes. If your job deals with graphics intensive task everyday, go with 16gb. Otherwise 8gb is fine
@madhavm9870 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are now my source of reference for apple products...... Your work done to post videos relentlessly is truly mind blowing..... Great work guys
@EvanHossain 3 жыл бұрын
You are running one app at a time. Ram will come into play when you have to switch among few ram hungry apps.
@MCMRokamir 3 жыл бұрын
This weekend I had exact this bad experience with a new 8GB MacBook Air M1- I just returned it. The memory pressure was often high and the system began to stutter when switching between light photo editing, Excel work and web browsing (news pages, KZfaq, etc.) while streaming high res music. Swap was at 8GB.
@Streamlined955 3 жыл бұрын
@@MCMRokamir I doubt that was memory related. I have the new M1 Mac Mini and I was getting crazy stutter in Microsoft Word and Safari. Very low-memory intensive apps but I’m seeing the same issue. I’m hoping a software update fixes it soon.
@Robert-dt3is 3 жыл бұрын
Ah that is a good point, it totally didn’t cross my mind.
@MCMRokamir 3 жыл бұрын
@@Streamlined955 Probably this is also due to not adopted SW and will improve over time. However, I tend to use multiple desktops and leave project (research on different topics, tax declaration, photo editing, etc.) open till they are finished. After setting up every thing and using the MacBook Air for some time, I was just not sure that the 8GB will do it for me. I watched the memory usage and it was constantly swapping, showed often high memory pressure and sometimes was reloading web pages when I returned to them.
@Lokesh_Karki 3 жыл бұрын
Like chrome
@Drozit0 3 жыл бұрын
I think the whole point of getting more ram on your mac is to future proof your computer for 8+ years of usage
@MaxTechOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s true!
@benjamin7114 3 жыл бұрын
Yes... with every hardware upgrade comes software upgrades which walks hand in hand with more RAM needs. Plus advantage in re-sale, nobody today wants 4GB Ram that was 'enough' 3 years ago for some.
@yiannis-be 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's for having 8+ tabs open in chrome now ;)
@foljs5858 3 жыл бұрын
Why not just sell it second-hand in 3-4 years and get a new model?
@Drozit0 3 жыл бұрын
@@foljs5858 because that’s wasteful.
@JeremyCollado 3 жыл бұрын
"8gb is nothing" Me: **Cries in 4gb**
@damschu23 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reppa57 do you live in an alternate reality? have you not wat hed any of the M1 Macbook reviews? and show me a 600-700$ pc that you can effectively mine cryptos with, i‘ll wait
@jittenddra 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reppa57 Guys, I bought m1 8gb lap top, I think 8gb is not enough. buy 16 Gb. If you are buying mac then definitely you would have to do some heavy task. open a lot of softwares and open tabs .. this computer will lag and wont be responsive. 8 GB is not enough. period.
@yeti8614 3 жыл бұрын
@@damschu23 lmao that guy is just a windows die hard fan. He doesn‘t want to accept that the M1 chip is really powerful.
@abrar4372 3 жыл бұрын
@@jittenddra I have Hp laptop with 8 gb It has been like 5 years and it’s still performing well And I also have another Hp laptop with 4 gb and it’s been 14 years and it’s also alive and functioning Do you think the MacBook Air M1 with 8 gb can’t last more than 6 years ?
@colonelminus 3 жыл бұрын
“For most people 8 GB is enough.” Awesome! I am most people!! 😊 I’m really happy with my 8 GB RAM and 512 GB hard drive.
@suyash4490 3 жыл бұрын
it works fine ?? 8gb is enough for day to day use ??
@colonelminus 3 жыл бұрын
@@suyash4490 who says I use it every day? 😉
@suyash4490 3 жыл бұрын
@@colonelminus which one should i buy 16gb or 8gb plz help
@colonelminus 3 жыл бұрын
@@suyash4490 I guess it depends on what you do like they said in the video. If you wanna be safe go for the 16gb.
@holyrevival5500 3 жыл бұрын
@@suyash4490 I have the 8gb ram with an external 2TB hard drive. I be having photoshop, premier pro, Lightroom, Minecraft, Adobe acrobat, Logic Pro X and safari running all the same time sometimes. I forget to close the apps. But It runs well either way. I do eventually close apps that I don’t need running. Unless you’re gonna do crazy things or play huge games, the 8gb is good enough.
@NineOneOneFx 3 жыл бұрын
This is THE ONE we all waited for. Let’s go!
@faranahmad 3 жыл бұрын
So true!
@964cuplove 3 жыл бұрын
Im waiting for 17“ (or 16“)
@RennardMarquez 3 жыл бұрын
Never clicked so fast in a video. Needed this before my purchase :) Thanks!
@truecuckoo 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive! It’d be cool if you added a few compositing tests too. Some light workload compositing like a 3 layers of 4k sources with keying/ masking. Then a heavy compositing test in Apple Motion, Fusion with more advanced compositing using many high resolution sources. Both playback, timeline scrubbing and export.
@atarix_official 3 жыл бұрын
cant wait for your tests )
@casablanka_official 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! He can't do that)
@atarix_official 3 жыл бұрын
@@casablanka_official why is that?
@shaunfurtado7368 3 жыл бұрын
So, technically the arm MBP 16 is going to close the competition for a really long time,If these tests are anything to go by.
@virtualshift 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the one test that would really show you the difference between having a 8 Gb or 16 GB of RAM is using multiple apps at once. I don't do any video editing, but in my game development workflow, I'm generally running at least six or seven different applications at the same time and I was constantly maxing out my memory when I had only 64GB of ram. I recently upgraded to 128 GB because the memory was on sale and I've only come close to maxing it out once on the new 2020 iMac.
@elvisdorkenoo 3 жыл бұрын
*more ram doesn't make your machine faster* ... But it helps you *load more heavy softwares and tasks* and run them smoothly simultaneously... So the way you run the tests does satisfy me but not the way I expected...
@bangbanggun6027 3 жыл бұрын
Me as a programer can't agree more.
@robinarora8137 3 жыл бұрын
It kinda does make things happen faster for e.g. in encoding or decoding.... but I fully agree with your point about “smooth simultaneously” test...
@fabriziodeni3339 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a trader and I need more ram to manage my software simultaneously and many internet pages opened. Dunno if 8 gb model and 16 gb model has same results for me. I don't think so onestly.
@elvisdorkenoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabriziodeni3339 8gb will do your work fine but if you can afford 16gb go for it, it'll keep your ssd healthy and also you'll be confortable using your machine for the next 5years. 5years ago 4gb was perfectly fine but now 8gb is barely enough.
@fabriziodeni3339 3 жыл бұрын
@@elvisdorkenoo thanks for the answer. I bought a mac mini 8gb past year and add 32 gb ram privately. All is fine. I want to buy this Mac mini with m1 chip, to replace my home pc, but I know well that if 8 gb will not be enought I cannot add more ram. As said I use many internet pages open at the same time and some software. Do you think 8gb model could be enought? I need max speed possible because time is gold for my work.
@JohnnyFD 3 жыл бұрын
Great tests! Thanks! But how would the 8gb do exporting a 40 minute video at 4K on Final Cut? A 5 minute video export seems too small for a KZfaq video.
@Isynko 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice testing guys, really good job. However, I have one big favor for all tech reviewers out there: Please create these RAM tests (or any stress tests) like you would use these machines in the real life. TLDR: "More Apps Running while Testing", Why? - I work as a Designer and for that, I need to have open at least 3 Apps simultaneously (Photoshop for creating and editing photography, Illustrator for icons, Xd for prototyping etc.) plus chrome/safari while working on the project or managing projects and I am not even counting cloud services (dropbox, drive, CC files, etc.) as they also have an impact for overall RAM usage. So the One app, the 8Gb model may seem "just fine" but in the real world, it would be obliterated with the 16Gb model. I understand that you can't simulate every possible scenario for every person who would be using these machines but I hope you get a general idea of what I was trying to say. You are also creators and you know how it is so I am not trying to undermine your work, just pointing out how am I seeing these tests and expressing my real-life experiences. Keep it up Max Tech. I love your thorough content and appreciate how fast can you bring all this data and information to us your viewers. Thank you
@esldogrescues 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same sort of thing. When I'm at an event, I'll be using just Lightroom, but when I'm home, I have 2 4k monitors plugged in, and I might be exporting a few thousand RAW photos, and have email open, a dozen browser tabs open, and watching youtube videos. That slows down my export, I'm sure, but it's okay because I'm chillin'. This is on a 2018 MBP with 32 gigs. I'd like to know if the 16 gig M1 will be as responsive (or hopefully more so) under this sort of load.
@franklinlucaslima 3 жыл бұрын
Word!
@ipozow 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was also thinking about that but I was thinking that my situation is unique and probably won't fit to anyone, but I also use a lot of apps at the same time that uses a lot of RAM. Actually I got problems with Discord and web WhatsApp taking a lot of ram and thus having a laggy browser
@solidsn2011 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly this! Need to see a test running photoshop and safari or chrome with multiple tabs open!
@anonymoususer5402 3 жыл бұрын
After seeing this review I can understand that people don't know how ram is consumed. 16gb can never be enough.
@nightking6786 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why you didn’t even hit a million yet. Definitely better than most of the reviewers out there, always shares what matters. Keep going mate, you surely will reach great heights! ❤️
@MaxTechOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That’s the goal for next year!
@kanzai12 3 жыл бұрын
because this channel started 2 years ago.. I remember they still in appleinsider back then before out make this channel
@paulguttuso9759 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamlevine6700 he definitely has personality lmao
@sciencepowerpoints 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamlevine6700 Id much rather listen to Max than somebody like Linus from Linus tech tips or Rene Richie, Actually Id rather stab myself in the ears than listen to someone like Linus
@spiderneo 3 жыл бұрын
Because thoses test are a joke....
@Errcyco 3 жыл бұрын
With using the 16gb variant, you’re essentially using all the new M1’s potential power though correct? Where 8gb it will always bottleneck at some point the 16gb wouldn’t.. or is that wrong?
@robertcliftonrobinson4183 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful. I just ordered a new Macbook Pro (14) M1Pro with 16GB of memory, concerned it was not enough. From this video I can see that the unified 16GB, with the new M1 Pro Architecture, will be more than enough capacity for my applications. Thanks!
@ajiteshsharma6714 3 жыл бұрын
MacBook Pro is Killin it and you guys are just making the videos we've been thinking of...
@FrenchingAround 3 жыл бұрын
I love it when a video answers so precisely the questions I’ve been having 👏🏻
@judescott8595 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this great review. If I may add, from software engineer perspective, the 16GB ram will give you the advantage for multi tasking because judging from your test, the 16gb version will have more free memory left, meaning user can do more things at one time. Nevertheless dope video. Appreciate the review and effort.
@TheBillaro 2 жыл бұрын
As a gd who has AI, PS, tabs in chrome et al. 16gb is best long term ya?
@jugarconarmas 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBillaro great point all the reviews talks like everyone is buying a computer every year or every 2 years. I'm changing my mac after 10 years, i need something that lasts.
@jothain 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I was hesitant, but believed all the reviewers hyping that you're ok with 8gigs (never had Mac before). Well it didn't take too much time to notice that ie. using Fusion 360 and having Chrome open with tabs at the same time and it's close to it's limits already. Heck I build my desktop pc with 32gigs, just cause memory was at the building time really cheap. Going back to the 8gig model, I had free F-secure license and decided to throw it at my Mini and well, at multitasking I very often already began to hit memory limits and actually removed F-secure to have more memory for my tasks. My take is that if you do anything else but browse and do ie. spreadsheets at the same time. Absolutely and definitely go for 16gigs. 8 gig model is something like 3 programs at worst to have open simultaneously. I don't want to kill my drive with swapping.
@jungtarcph Жыл бұрын
how many chrome tabs.... that all I want to know..
@AFatOcelot Жыл бұрын
Ironically, the 8gb and 16gb end up using about the same amount of swap memory. The laptop just ramps up
@SuitedMoose 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason I’m gonna get the 16gb is to future proof my MBP as much as possible.
@craftymonk3y647 3 жыл бұрын
Very good idea
@dialecticalmonist3405 3 жыл бұрын
You can future proof by buying $200 of bitcoin and then buy the M2 when it comes out.
@cynthiaanderson7321 3 жыл бұрын
@@dialecticalmonist3405 wait what? How does any of that work? Do you have any video recommendations?
@dialecticalmonist3405 3 жыл бұрын
@@cynthiaanderson7321 I was making a joke, because the $200 will turn into more money by the time the M2 comes out. My point is, when the new stuff comes out, people sell their old stuff anyway. But if you are seriously asking me about Bitcoin, I can tell you myself how to get some.
@twitchster77 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's the biggest selling point for me with the 16gb...I plan on using my M1 macbook for years...and I'd just feel more secure with 16 vs 8.
@Driver732 3 жыл бұрын
I watched several videos of this guy before posting this, but he is definitely the one to follow. I've been working IT for over 10 years now, and he is the type of person I would love to work with. My intuition could be wrong of course, but he genuinely seems like a chill person. Look at his channel. No stupid video thumbnails or over the top video effects/transitions/crap. Speaks well and delivers content efficiently, don't have to skip through fluff or anything. If you think I am exaggerating, check out videos posted by others. As for the laptop, this is my first mac, so I went all out for the Pro w/ 16 GB. No regrets so far, have a great day!
@jamiedenewt2 3 жыл бұрын
Is it worth $200 upgrading to 16GB Ram? Short answer: Not for most people, unless you need to squeeze the most performance out of your Mac, or you will export 8K footage
@houssamalucad753 3 жыл бұрын
If you any sort of serious work get the 16gb, the 8gb model uses the SSD A LOT as secondary RAM and SSDs have much more limited read/write lifetimes than RAM. The 8gb model will have less longevity since you can't replace the SSD. But anyways apple will drop support for these first gen M1 macs so their longevity is already not that great...
@retrocomputing 3 жыл бұрын
@@houssamalucad753 why would they drop support?
@arvinsim 3 жыл бұрын
@@houssamalucad753 I agree. I would get the 16gb of RAM just to avoid pagefiles.
@xguy9999 3 жыл бұрын
@@houssamalucad753 I disagree, it’s already so powerful, years ahead than others. We all know Apple will create more powerful chips. But Apple aren’t even abandoning their intel Macs.
@sttv1570 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to process 8k footage, logical thinking is that you wont want this "base model" M1 Macbook
@psivewri 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I saw this before buying! Keep up the videos 😀
@FearDepth 3 жыл бұрын
which one did you end up buying?
@americangirlbeats4134 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearDepth Windows HAHAH
@maxpayne7030 3 жыл бұрын
@@americangirlbeats4134 well played 😂
@americangirlbeats4134 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxpayne7030 HAHA
@89nigamrohit 3 жыл бұрын
I bought 8 gigs variant.. and it is as smooth as butter ❤️
@JohnTurman 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH for this video Max!
@flegoron 3 жыл бұрын
Big SO needed this to make a decision for the Black Friday coupons. Killing it dude, I never comment; this pure for the algoritme.
@melo3650 3 жыл бұрын
What are black Friday coupons and where to get them?
@vishal_trivedi 3 жыл бұрын
flegoron commented. 🤯 he never comments!! woah!!!
@Salsajaman 3 жыл бұрын
@@melo3650 The sale on this laptop will likely be apple store credit or a free pair of airpods rather than a price reduction.
@cesneaks5675 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I just want to say from that from the initial announcement of Apple Silicon you guys were one of the few ones that showed enthusiasm and excitement at the potential game changer with the technical backing and explanation of why. Needless to say you were absolutely right. And even those v1 models are absolutely insane. It's mind-boggling to know there are some very big tech KZfaq channels that are supposed to at least be non-biased and whose job it is to present tech and at the very least new and revolutionary tech (like this is) but laughed this off (won't name namesltt). Just want to give my sincere appreciation on you guys bringing such detailed and valuable information to what those machines can do and sustaining the quality over your content over time. Most importantly I think we can all feel your passion and that you love what you do, and that's what matters most. Thank you
@Ssyc253 3 жыл бұрын
I subscribed just for all the m1 content!! You're killing it keep up the great work!!
@jackjohnson8393 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot expect the performance of a system to increase when it has already enough memory available: the benefits of going from 8GB to 16GB of RAM should be demonstrated using a benchmark in which the amount of available RAM is identified as the bottleneck. In the Geekbench 5 CPU test, although the amount of "free" memory is low, there is a high amount of "cache" memory. Cache memory represents files that have been recently accessed and are stored in RAM for future, fast, access. This memory can be liberated and made available to applications whenever the amount of "free" memory is no longer sufficient. In other words, having a low amount of "free" RAM doesn't necessarily indicate a memory shortage. The important metric here is the "Pressure" which is roughly is equivalent to (Wired + Used) / Capacity. I have no doubts that 16GB of RAM would provide a significant performance increase for use cases that are memory hungry and not CPU bound. Great video nevertheless!
@wendymaxwell8627 Жыл бұрын
how would that affect using a program like Photoshop?
@JohnDoe-lg2rg 3 жыл бұрын
your reviews are very detail. Keep it up
@tommeSVK 3 жыл бұрын
04:51 "...they're not skipping a beat, HAH!" :D
@RichM1967 3 жыл бұрын
Where the ram is important is when you’ve more than one app running. When safari, outlook, word, iterm, excel, vocode, plus’s other apps all running at the same time
@mallorydurrick 3 жыл бұрын
I asked for that too. I would never just use one program. I have to believe the 16GB is a better solution for real life experience.
@SergioQuinonez 3 жыл бұрын
That's correct, these tests are a bit bit stupid, more RAM makes difference when using a lot of apps opened at same time.
@geraldbaria 3 жыл бұрын
@@SergioQuinonez There's a lot of tests on youtube showing multiple heavy apps open and operating with 8GBs, they can't still max them out. BigSur has iOS level ram management.
@mlykke 3 жыл бұрын
@@geraldbaria The big difference between iOS and Mac OS, is that on iOS you only run a single app at a time, meaning it has all ram available for a single app. On a normal computer it's very common to have multiple apps running. The 8GB swaps A LOT and even though the SSD is fast, ram is MUCH faster.So if you're the type that only has a couple of tabs open in your browser, sure get the 8 GB. But if you like have a lot of apps running, loads of tabs in your browser etc. The 16 GB will be a much better option...and I guarantee you will be able to feel it. This test is attacking from a performance perspective which is rarely the point of ram(unless you workload is very restrained), it's about being able to run a lot of stuff without swapping. Swapping should always be avoided if possible.
@bagustiko 3 жыл бұрын
Created Labs review about M1 pretty much answer a lot of these questions.
@lucashertweck8731 2 жыл бұрын
Great test! Basically everything I was looking for, thank you! Could you please just add the info of how these two are performing while video editing? Basically like you did with Lightroom? I care less about the exporting time and more about how fluent the workflow is. Thanks :)
@LeBronIsgLoat 3 жыл бұрын
Gained a new subbie, about to watch the Air vs Pro vid, THANKS Tons! 🙆🏽♀️💃💃🙆🏽♀️
@MyInstantSearch 3 жыл бұрын
the one who can afford the 8k red cam can most probably spend $200 more I think
@BrendanEvan 3 жыл бұрын
Lol this is the truth
@li_tsz_fung 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, try running unity, chrome and xcode at the same time and work on it for real. Benchmark doesn't reflect much
@TheHy6xD 3 жыл бұрын
we need new benchmark, with Xcode and Chrome running on maximum.
@22Epic 3 жыл бұрын
Even just Chrome with a few tabs opened :D
@Henry_Jr_Watsson 3 жыл бұрын
@@22Epic Chrome with ~120 tabs = ~1-2GB of RAM. That alone is heavy for the 8GB MacBook. Then add in other programs. Need 16GB minimum for heavy user.
@gahlol7069 3 жыл бұрын
@@Henry_Jr_Watsson or a messy user like me that doesn't close programs lmao
@vikramsaggarwal697 3 жыл бұрын
@@Henry_Jr_Watsson 120 tabs is almost 5-6GB of ram. 8GB is unusable even without other programs.
@rocko44444444 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I was looking for this kind of compare for a long time. Usually I found "if you need more RAM than buy 16GB version" videos, which are not tests. So, 10% difference doesn't sound much, but if you looking as a workhorse and working 8hrs every day, that means you can save 1 working day within two weeks. That's a lot!
@Stop4MotionMakr 3 жыл бұрын
I like how 4K editing is already labeled as "normal" here.
@Errcyco 3 жыл бұрын
In their world it absolutely is, bunch of content creators living together lol.
@jmackultra 2 жыл бұрын
Lol is it not?
@dennisp8520 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like 4K is becoming much more normal. Most people making content are gunna record in 4K since the cost of entry has dropped dramatically
@straysheep5312 2 жыл бұрын
I know right I'm still here living a world with 1080p as normal. 2160p is luxury for me 😂
@nicolaselhani 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I just want to say from that from the initial announcement of Apple Silicon you guys were one of the few ones that showed enthusiasm and excitement at the potential game changer with the technical backing and explanation of why. Needless to say you were absolutely right. And even those v1 models are absolutely insane. It's mind-boggling to know there are some very big tech KZfaq channels that are supposed to at least be non-biased and whose job it is to present tech and at the very least new and revolutionary tech (like this is) but laughed this off (won't name namesltt). Just want to give my sincere appreciation on you guys bringing such detailed and valuable information to what those machines can do and sustaining the quality over your content over time. Most importantly I think we can all feel your passion and that you love what you do, and that's what matters most. Thank you
@MLJenkins 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Some of these videos were the reason I purchased one. I am a long time windows user and last year thought about switching to Mac for development reasons. However when Apple announced their own chips, I was convinced I wouldn’t touch them ever, as I remember PowerPC from years ago. When I saw these videos showing the actual performance comparisons I realized my thinking was wrong and this bandwagon was moving much faster than I ever dreamed it would. Maybe I’ll be proved wrong in the next couple years, but the more videos I see like this the more I think being an early adopter may not get me in trouble this time :)
@SamAdamsDesigns 3 жыл бұрын
Lot of haters out there who just want to shit on this because it’s Apple. Tribalism.
@sky.london 3 жыл бұрын
Who ever is editing this and leaving the singing in is funny as. Love it.
@RobMoses Жыл бұрын
This is such a good video. Thank you very much for making it!
@gurmeersingh798 3 жыл бұрын
9:18 “ah, it’s so impressive...”😂😂
@RossittoS 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! With that performance being so close, I wonder how much swap memory each macbook used after all these tasks! It would be cool if you make another video focusing on the amount of swap used between these two models and macbook airs.
@OjasvApurv 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, That would be interesting to see. That would determine the longevity of SSDs.
@neelaysethi 3 жыл бұрын
How does he make all of his videos so interactive
@Justin-di8os 3 жыл бұрын
It’s they I know surprising
@koenignero 3 жыл бұрын
Editing
@fanz6410 2 ай бұрын
Three years ago some apps are not optimised for Apple silicon. Will there be a difference if tested today for M1 Mac? Are there such videos?
@monizfilms 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I currently have a 27 inch late 2012 iMac with 3.4 GHZ Intel core i7 and 16 GB of ram. I edit using FCPX and DaVinci Resolve Studio but I have decided to ditch the desktop for a laptop. My editing is strictly for personal use. I restore old super 8 films and 1080P HD films. Do you think the basic MacBook Air M1 with 8GB ram will be sufficient or what upgrades should I make?
@winterb1946 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a vid comparing the M1 Air 7 core vs the 8 core GPU and is it really worth the extra cash particularly up here in Canada where they cost more. 😢
@aligizzle69 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!! You both have done a fantastic job as usual. I’m gonna buy the Air/512/8 (but wait for the Black Friday deals). I owe you both a coffee. Much love
@theaudioroom2228 3 жыл бұрын
Wanted to say, Ram amount is more important for very large timelines. Would love to see a test with a 22min or 44min and then see how the 8gig vs 16gig stacks up.
@jothain 2 жыл бұрын
Actually just simple multitasking between applications is a factor. With 8gigs I'm having about 2-5 programs open at max. Obviously depending what applications used. But stuff like CAD program and browser can already max out 8gig models.
@TheSuperHeroOfLove 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate all the hard work and thorough comparison! Thanks Max Tech! :)
@char_rios 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best RAM comparison for the M1 models that I've seen so far. Great video man! You absolutely helped me(us) out.
@InfectedSoup 3 жыл бұрын
us?
@MithunOnTheNet 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just wondering if the 16GB upgrade is worthwhile in the long run. Computers tends to lag, slow down over time and my 2013 Macbook Air is certainly slower now than it was when I first bought it. I'm looking to upgrade to the new Macbook Air but I'm wondering if spending the $200 extra is worth it.
@Lapatrona1968 3 жыл бұрын
Love you guy’s! You answer all my questions!
@clivematthews95 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Vadim for this. This video is enlightening
@smeegers 3 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see if the results change with a full SSD, as it looks like it's make amazing use of swap space.
@AkamiChannel 3 жыл бұрын
definitely it will, but you shouldn't fill up the ssd on a mac. That's why it warns you so much about that, bc it wants to use swap.
@esistdume 3 жыл бұрын
@@AkamiChannel how much space does it use for swap space? i guess it would be okay if u have 10gb free space left for swap space right?
@AkamiChannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@esistdume that should be alright
@SalemAlketbi 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is so underrated. Well done guys on this great content.
@choeungul 3 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are decision makers for my buying a proper mac for me. You guys rock! The results were amazing.
@MrYuriewerton 3 жыл бұрын
That's really impressive! Thanks for the video! It helped me a lot!
@NOTLeavingLV 3 жыл бұрын
11% sounds more impressive than FOURTEEN SECONDS
@RatulOsmantech 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, now please make a comparison between M1 16GB Ram Pro Vs 10th gen Pro + eGPU. I wanna know which one performs better in terms of final Cut timeline & exporting.
@ChrisThul487 3 жыл бұрын
Do you seriously have an eGPU? For like $700 extra or more?
@LancelotTINTIGNIES 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisThul487 I personally have one with the 5700XT, a pure happiness to be able to train on liftoff on my 21:9 34" :)
@JohnDoe-ml1ui 3 жыл бұрын
Barefeats website have made a comparison between intel i7 with EGPU (RX 5700 XT) and M1.... Of course the intel with EGPU win big anytime except for finalcut pro (almost the same speed). I think latest Macs with Intel could be a bargain since no one understand it's real value and how powerful it is... Probably a lot of persons will sold their intel macs at low price on ebay just to get the newer macs with M1... LOL
@bashful228 3 жыл бұрын
@Max Tech has a video making these comparisons in a three way comparison with M1 mini, intel mini with eGPU and a third option.
@bashful228 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gmon750 to make that comparison with actual data using real world testing in apps. If nobody benchmarks vs eGPU nobody can say what you just said, mate! Also some people have eGPUs paired with intel minis and might be wondering if they can lose the eGPU and go with a new mini. Lots of us want to know, I was about to buy i7 mini with eGPU but decided to wait a few months ago to see what the Apple Silicon brought. No way did I expect these speed gains… especially with stock onboard GPUs. Sure, I'm dying to see what comes next in the Apple Silicon mac range, but this is good enough to have me buying one today and happy to resell if i need to upgrade for more TB3 ports (that's a big downside for me, only two TB3 ports and only one TB controller/bus on these new macs, otherwise amazing value).
@davidfisher531 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful information, Thanks.
@compuowl 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this informative video.
@ajiteshsharma6714 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, there is performance monitor for ARM Macs and that too just in 2 weeks or s after the launch
@ddnava96 3 жыл бұрын
"Why do you need 16 GB?" "Chrome. I use Chrome…"
@MaxTechOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Chrome will be optimized for Apple silicon very soon. It will use less
@mmdday 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaxTechOfficial Apple Silicon has nothing to do with the RAM. Memory is memory no matter what architecture you're on. A jpg from a webpage is the same size no matter what. An apple silicon build of Chrome will not use less memory.
@FranMartinezphotographer 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaxTechOfficial It is already ;)
@johanaziz 3 жыл бұрын
@@mmdday your theory is what this video disproves. Many of the test on 8gb shows very high memory pressure and that it was accessing swap memory alot. But the results barely change. Whatever apple’s doing with the memory organisation and architecture is making a big difference.
@mmdday 3 жыл бұрын
@@johanaziz That's because you don't know how to read the memory stats. *Most* of the tests weren't even close to using most of the RAM. Much of the RAM is occupied by the cache, which can be thrown away and is not part of app memory. And in fact, this probably explains a lot of the performance difference in tests that don't use much memory (compiling in xcode), because compilation is heavy on the disk, and the loss of file cache on the 8GB explains why it's slower (but only slightly). Please don't comment if you dont understand how this works. Think about it, no app is going to use 8GB of memory, because that would make it impossible to run at all on lots of machines.
@marion817 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the hard work! Love this channel!
@itsaaronward 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing all these results, super helpful!
@jonathanlennard2472 3 жыл бұрын
Earned a sub for this...exactly what I was looking for
@stevecaputo2119 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful! Thank you!
@AndrewRayFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Hey @MaxTech thanks for the reviews! What app do you use to monitor the cpu and gpu on the menubar?
@easontekreviews1647 3 жыл бұрын
3 years from now the 16gb model will still do well whereas the 8gb model will choke
@MrLargo-ov1fm 3 жыл бұрын
You saved me $200!💪🏻 thanks for the detail and the direct suggestions...
@Karembou 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you tried connecting the laptop to an external display and ran tests? Will it affect performance?
@jingjingcoming 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for your test reviews.
@Ozknl 3 жыл бұрын
Boss ! Thank you so much was waiting for this. Ordered the 8gb model.
@robsoniqe 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Please add ProRes RAW for ur tests in future ;)
@TheDarKing997 3 жыл бұрын
And Blackmagic Raw too
@rim685cennirsuc2 3 жыл бұрын
Thought experiment: Both the 16 and eight gig model Have their RAM used up by the intensive application. This means that there is a lot more swapping going on on the 8 gig model compared to the 16 gig model ! note: every time the RAM is used to completely the data or some data is written on the SSD. This way your SSD will age quicker by the way the 256 GB version quicker than the 512 because each sector will be re-written twice as often .So the question is would you take 512 GB SSD with eight gig or a 256 GB SSD with 16 gig?
@ankurbagai1056 3 жыл бұрын
It won't be helpful until Resolve and Adobe are optimized for M1 as well
@seanmartin343 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Great video!
@Mark-kf9uj 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed That in this test the 16GB MBP drained less the battery than the 8GB, is it true?
@rammohan4u 3 жыл бұрын
MaxTech - great videos and u r reading ur viewers’ mind !! Quick question - will it be same for MBA 8GB (8core GPU) vs MBA 16GB (8core GPU) as well ?
@flavioallemand5217 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so because the MacBook Air has 7-core GPU compared to 8-core in MacBook Pro. The 16-Gb would better off than the 8-Gb but both with lower performance compared to MacBook Pro.
@macauleyp1950 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tested for differences when using like 100+ open browser tabs? 16 GB noticeably better there?
@RodHerzstrom 3 жыл бұрын
I opened 100 Google Chrome tabs on the 8GB M1 mbp if you wanna check it out on my channel :D
@garymfelton 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this excellent and informative Video You helped me greatly 👏🏻👏🏻😊
@YOYOLUCK88 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Really want to know whether the m1 macbook can handle a 4k 60hz monitor while attaching the thunderbolt3 protable ssd.
@ericktse7025 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, that's the greatest review for the M1 chip on MacBook
@0xRayKhan 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the effort that went into testing the two new machines. I would say however that it's obviously very media production oriented, it doesn't really address other types of work case scenarios. Perhaps media production is the most intense so it's more or less a valid test. But as I transition from being a media producer to being a project manager, I see myself opening more internet tabs, having a wider variety of programs open, and doing several very different types of work all at the same time. More RAM has been the bane of my work so I think it would still be better for me to opt for the 16GB, definitely more than a 10-15% improvement in my case.
@Allblue1 Жыл бұрын
i mean i am a student with 8gb. i can play games that have minimum requirement of 8gb,can run it. as well has 3 games at the same time. With a whole tabs filled with school work and also social tabes and spotify open idk about computers. But seems 8 does really well
@teacherlutz 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I highly appreciate your great work.
@timazhum 3 жыл бұрын
The test is not legit. You forgot to throw the Macbooks into a real battlefield with Google Chrome
@skifast_takechances 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, google chrome requires 64 GB of RAM
@RodHerzstrom 3 жыл бұрын
I uploaded some multitasking videos with chrome and more apps for the channel if you wanna check it out
@cystarkman 3 жыл бұрын
maybe that battlefield could be fixed by Google one day 🤔
@RodHerzstrom 3 жыл бұрын
@@skifast_takechances here's my test 100 Google Chrome tabs... in 8GB M1 Macbook kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n9Bnp9Gdq5-RZaM.html
@RodHerzstrom 3 жыл бұрын
@@cystarkman well I am very impressed by how it kept working after the 100 tabs of Chrome. You can check the video on my channel :)
@TerriRoberts 3 жыл бұрын
The 16gb model is the one I went for because (as far as I know, I'm no expert) more RAM is better for running multiple apps and browser tabs at the same time and my daily usage often involves having multiple Abode applications, word, excel, onenote and several browser tabs open at any time.
@asianstud7 2 жыл бұрын
@@yellowdressbookstore6602 LOL.
@m.jamilrahman4971 2 жыл бұрын
did you ever heard virtual memory (swap memory)?
@m.jamilrahman4971 2 жыл бұрын
More RAM good for heavly multi tasking. Like i used to. Run multiple virtual machines at the same time
@xeon3081 Жыл бұрын
@@m.jamilrahman4971 if that was a perfect solution nobody would spend on extra ram, it’s still better not to have to use the ssd as ram
@maciejb2169 3 жыл бұрын
What would you choose for some work with DaVinci Resolve? 8 or 16? And do you think the 8 core gpu is worth it? Thank you
@tiktokshack7489 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Is 8gb unified memory enough for Adobe Illustrator, photoshop, and running around 15 safari tabs in background? Please let me know, I am considering whether I should upgrade to 16gb or not. Thanks in advance!
@SCHeartless 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a test between the 8 and 16gb versions of the m1 MacBooks airs
@sanjuro_493 3 жыл бұрын
I mean they have literally the same chip so why?
@Met845 3 жыл бұрын
Spelling.
@elleporidae 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! I don’t know how many times I’ve checked back updates on this topic since the M1 release. Coming from a 2015 Macbook Air with 8gb RAM- my mind (and cash) knows that the 8gb in M1 is already leaps and bounds better than any Intel Macs of the same class but my heart wants the 16gb just to experience it (and future-proof it ofc) 🥴
@thomasgebetsberger4620 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you! How did you decide?
@thereckon3592 2 жыл бұрын
Lesley we need answers!
@sevianalorensia8891 3 жыл бұрын
I am graphic designer, mostly use Adobe Illustrator, Photoshop, After Effect and Google Chrome at once, is 8gb gonna be enough?
@vijaybhavsar2512 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Max, thanks for the insights. Does MacBook "Air" 8GB RAM support Logic Pro ?
@thabitpulak 3 жыл бұрын
You guys will definitely hit 500K before the end of the year- EASILY. I’m calling 500K by the end of November ;)
@calsup6696 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe no one has asked, what was the battery life at the end?! The 16gb was hotter and performed better. How did that effect battery life?
@Henry_Jr_Watsson 3 жыл бұрын
Good question! 16GB model works harder, but finishes earlier. 8GB model works less hard, but takes longer. Which lasts the longest on battery then? :o
@brianpaul8567 3 жыл бұрын
In my experience the 8 gig lasts about 8-10 with heavy xcode, rider, and unity use. Not sure about the 16...yet.
@lhughey118 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, my workflow is pretty CPU intensive, so I'm always plugged in and don't even think about battery life as much as raw power. But that is a good question.
@andresmolli656 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the video.. Could you please tell us which MacBook would you choose between the MacBook Pro M1 13 with 8GB RAM vs. MacBook Air M1 13 with 16 GB RAM?? thanks again!! 🙏🏼💙
@axea4554 3 жыл бұрын
Bro Max it’s very informative, thank you. Keep it up in your next videos
@joshsmith72294 3 жыл бұрын
I love you guys. Thank you so much for all of this. (Typed on an M1 MacBook Pro that is literally cold to the touch)
@jeffrey3498 3 жыл бұрын
It's worth upgrading just for the future proofing.
@sebastianaminoff9703 2 жыл бұрын
Which computer is better, my 2017 Macbook pro with 16GB or the 2020 model with 8GB pf RAM?
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