8GB vs 16GB vs 24GB for M2 Mac - The TRUTH about RAM!

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Rene Ritchie

Rene Ritchie

Жыл бұрын

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@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Жыл бұрын
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@austinverlinden2236
@austinverlinden2236 Жыл бұрын
I dont plan on buying, but if i was to buy i would be buying 16GB.
@dilaratesting5988
@dilaratesting5988 Жыл бұрын
@@xtilr7017 which config? 8CPU/8GPU? and whats the storage?
@mannyljr
@mannyljr 10 ай бұрын
I have watched your videos for many years and have always loved your straight to the point reviews. I am going to buy an M2 Mac Mini with 16gb ram and 512 gb ssd to free up my M1 Air from my desk. Also, the main reason for the M2 Mac Mini is to run dual external 4K monitors, which would have forced me to buy adapters otherwise.
@jimjames6990
@jimjames6990 2 ай бұрын
200 bucks more for 16Gb. I paid 30 bucks for 16gb for my PC. APPLE RIPOFF
@pawnmove
@pawnmove Жыл бұрын
I have both a 8GB and a 16GB M1 Mac. My workload is simple consisting of just office apps and browsers (with lots of tabs). The 8GB suffers lots of frequent latency stutters due to frequent RAM/SSD swapping with this mix of apps but the 16GB computer is always buttery smooth. I would never get a 8GB version again.
@MrFoxfire510
@MrFoxfire510 Жыл бұрын
How many browsers and tabs at a time?
@valentinomc
@valentinomc Жыл бұрын
I agree with you.
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl Жыл бұрын
or you stop using chrome :)
@ChaitanyaArige
@ChaitanyaArige 11 ай бұрын
Thank you
@aussiegruber86
@aussiegruber86 9 ай бұрын
Dam I have the 8gb
@Tushar.Sharma
@Tushar.Sharma Жыл бұрын
For Mac mini, do not upgrade storage beyond a total of 512 GB internal. For $200, you can get a superfast 2TB external SSD and are unlikely to notice difference in transfer speeds.
@wtmk81
@wtmk81 Жыл бұрын
In Canada you have pretty much just said get the 14” MBP. It is still a bit more, but for the additional cost you get a better display, more ports, and dual display support.
@kesterbelgrove818
@kesterbelgrove818 Жыл бұрын
I really really agree with you, dongles will steal from the portable experience and also form the speed and convenience of getting a Macbook. I went 16G RAM and 1TB SSD on my MBP 14 unit, and it removes that fear of running out of space and speed. Mac's are a long term purchase so be prepared for the unexpected
@arcadiosincero
@arcadiosincero 6 ай бұрын
Got the 24gb/1tb m2 MBA. Splurged for max RAM because I run VMs on my MBA. I went with 1TB because I’ve never actually been able to fill that up under my usual use cases, however I can easily fill up 512GB.
@MrAndika747
@MrAndika747 Жыл бұрын
Is it still worth it to upgrade the ram from 8gb to 16gb for $350? There's no official apple store in my country and for upgrading the ram I need to spend more than the actual price on apple website
@alexroof316
@alexroof316 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered the Macbook Air M2 with 24GB RAM and 2 TERA Harddrive. Do you know if the 2 Tera have the speed of the 256GB or the speed of the 512GB?
@MichaelArgentini
@MichaelArgentini Жыл бұрын
Something that no one is mentioning is that you actually get less RAM than you think because the RAM in an Apple Silicon Mac is also used for video memory. And each display reduces the available RAM in aggregate.
@daradavids
@daradavids Жыл бұрын
The exact same thought in my head!!! They fact that RAM is now a shared resource means that to replace a 16GB RAM 4GB VRAM, a 24GB combined RAM would be more appropriate.
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
and all the "memory tests" the youtubers have made are with like 1 app open at a time... "see you can run this videoeditor with just 8GB perfectly fine" but I dunno about everyone else but I OFTEN have 20+ tabs open in browsers + 2-3 other apps when doing stuff.
@brysongrayy
@brysongrayy Жыл бұрын
@@LiLBitsDK there’s a max tech video where they go absolutely overboard with 25 tabs and 4 pro apps
@inowtf4299
@inowtf4299 Жыл бұрын
@@brysongrayy I just need a laptop for editing and idk if I should get the m1 or m2 the biggest concern for me is the storage, I have a pc with 2tb and I’ve used more than half of it can y’all lmk I’m new to the laptop gang
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
@@brysongrayy because he is one of the only ones doing proper testing... and not just "see it's shiny" like the others
@dinkyshopYT
@dinkyshopYT Жыл бұрын
Would like to see someone do interviews and then analysis of real world industries that use the products you analyze and review (other than video content creators), as a means to see actual workflow issues, bottlenecks, how they solve tech issues. Like how writers use Apple computers is entirely different than Mac based architects doing CAD and 3D rendering - which is arguably closer to heavy commercial movie studio editing type computing. So those set ups, problems and solutions for architects would be interesting to see vs people who are on Twitch gaming or live streaming something else.
@valentinomc
@valentinomc Жыл бұрын
Very well said, sir. It is likely that they will test those machines with software that few are using and that most of us have never heard of let alone used. When the M3 comes out, I would personally like it to have 24GB/1TB of storage.
@salmann3874
@salmann3874 Жыл бұрын
I bought M1 Pro base model, 16Gb ram and 512 Gb SSD as soon as it was released.. To be frank am soo happy about this purchase
@gigihanmandarin
@gigihanmandarin Жыл бұрын
Good choice
@grahamevans8567
@grahamevans8567 Жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@pauljazzman408
@pauljazzman408 Жыл бұрын
happy 'about' not happy 'for'
@salmann3874
@salmann3874 Жыл бұрын
@@pauljazzman408 Thanks for the correction mate 🙌
@asafblasbergvideographer
@asafblasbergvideographer Жыл бұрын
Me too! :)
@Datalanche
@Datalanche Жыл бұрын
I bought an M1 8x8 core 16GB RAM 512GB storage MacBook Air last year and love the thing. I chose to upgrade the RAM because I'm one of those that doesn't replace tech until it's either irreparably broken or will no longer perform my tasks. The M1 Air is so good I will probably keep it until Apple no longer supports it or it dies outside of my AppleCare term. It's such a high performance machine I could see myself keeping it for several years to come. I really think the 16GB of RAM was worth it because I very rarely see it use swap space at all, and the times I have, it's never been more than a few hundred megabytes. Astoundingly good machine for the price.
@paul_w
@paul_w Жыл бұрын
It's not a bad thing to use swap... If your machine is not performing well because of ram then thats an issue, but swap is not inherently bad thats a very useful technic.
@MarkLKahnt
@MarkLKahnt Жыл бұрын
I have always needed to upgrade the RAM on every computer I have had over its life, except for my Raspberry Pi. A 4KB TRS-80 Model I went up to 16 KB. My Atari 600 went from 16 KB to 64 KB. My 486 PC went from 4 MB to 8 MB. My 16 MB Pentium went to 80 MB, while the Pentium III went from 256 MB to 768 MB. From the early things I heard about Apple Silicon run, it seems like the code uses a larger footprint than Intel does (CISC vs RISC instruction sets) which is why swapping on the 8 GB models with lower SSD sizes was an issue around the M1 MacBook Airs and 13” Pros. To me, it disqualified 8 GB for anyone doing much more than a minimum of tasks and closes apps out when switching to something else. 16 GB as a minimum for Macs would be sensible and I had hoped that the M2 would have come as 16 GB and 32 GB, the M2 Pro as 32 GB and 64 GB, Max at 64 GB and 128 GB, and Ultra as 128 GB and 256 GB. Maybe that will be the basis for the M3, and maybe that is massive overkill for iPad Pro and iPad Air. I do agree that with the lifespan of typical Apple computers, buyers should anticipate that equipment should be bought based on minimum usability needs five years from the date of purchase rather than what will “just do the job” at the time of purchase. I “may have” implemented preemptive multitasking on my 64 KB Atari 600, but that wasn’t useful for anything more than basic tasks. My 8 GB desktop PC running Linux works okay as my email server and various other tasks, but add in a breadth of productivity and maybe a game, and nah, it is no longer powerful enough. Same with 8 GB on a MacOS platform.
@louisea308
@louisea308 Жыл бұрын
My 24gb m2 uses 7 GB of ram (5 GB app memory and 2 GB resident memory) with ONLY the activity monitor open. No browser, no program, nothing else. If I open ONE KZfaq tab in Safari it gets to over 9.5 GB usage. I feel that something is wrong?
@TheMaxAwesome
@TheMaxAwesome Жыл бұрын
If operating system doesn’t matter to you much because you use cross-platform tools, there are a ton of really good options in the 13” thin and light category this year. The fact that you can’t dual boot OS easily on Macs now has me seriously considering other options, especially given the price hike this year. The latest storage speed nerf on the 2022 13” MBP is just another reminder that upgradable parts are a good thing.
@Fear.of.the.Dark.
@Fear.of.the.Dark. Жыл бұрын
which thin and light machine will give huge battery life and performance at $999 sale price point of macbook air (you can get M1 macbook air at $799 on sale easily) without any slowdown just like windows machines usually struggle for at that price point? People use macbooks for a long time because it lasts way longer than Windows laptops. The SSD benchmark is a moot point. Most people are not transferring bluray movie on their laptops every 5 mins. This is just like my 1 GBps fibre internet speed. 99% of the time I dont use that speed on my laptops or phones and then if I use it, then it is for my Xbox console downloading games.
@masazaku7268
@masazaku7268 Жыл бұрын
@@Fear.of.the.Dark., what do u think is the better option for student: 1) MBA M1 16+256gb for 1150 dollars(+80$ delivery from the US and 100$ taxes) 2) MBA M2 8+512 for 1400 dollars(same for delivery and taxes) 3) MBP 14 base model, 1600 dollars(again, i gotta overpay around 200$ for all these things) I’m sooo confused
@SuperDalite
@SuperDalite Жыл бұрын
Extremely informative, thank you.
@Ravioedai
@Ravioedai Жыл бұрын
serious question, How does the macbook air 13 inch 16gb 256ssd 2022 m2 compare to Micrsoft surface 2017 16gb ram 500gb ssd?? Should i switch??
@karanm2129
@karanm2129 7 ай бұрын
Came across your video today and it was pretty informative. I am stuck with the same question as I am planning to buy my first macbook. Macbook air m1 8gb and 256 gigs is what is available in the stores nearby my place. My use cases are - 1. Ms office and apples office suite 2. Spreadsheets 3. Research 4. Articles 5. Browsing 6. Content consumption 7. Music creation as a hobby 8. Occasional video and photo editing - nothing big time. But I do do it sometimes Have been doing all of these in my phones from the last few years and now I am planning to get my first macbook. What would you suggest- To get an M1 or M2. And will 8gb suffice or do I need to jump and go for 16gb Ram If I purchase it now I will be using it for the next 5-6 years. What would be the best bet???
@Alsam
@Alsam Жыл бұрын
So hard. I don’t need the pro love the lightness of the current and new air. Thinking of the new air (my current one is 7 years old). 16 gig and 512 he put $200 short of the MacBook Pro. Don’t want the extra weight but tough decision to move up more. Thanks.
@IslandDigital
@IslandDigital 11 ай бұрын
M2 Mac Mini 16gb ran with 512SSD HD WILL be ample enough to use for home video editing ? Thanks
@Chibbipanduhhhhhhh
@Chibbipanduhhhhhhh Жыл бұрын
So I'm a vet student and I also game. I completely used up the 8gb memory on my '18 MBP. Idk what to choose now. I do a lot of power points, essays, videos, gaming, etc. I also have a lot of things running on the background and have to download apps for our courses. Which one would be worth it for me? Would 16gb & 1tb be enough? Should I do MacBook Air or MacBook Pro? Any input is much appreciated 😭😭. I need a new laptop asap.
@SBHounds14
@SBHounds14 Жыл бұрын
If you can only upgrade one either ram or storage which one is better 16 gb ram or 512 ssd?
@kamikakushi_
@kamikakushi_ Жыл бұрын
RAM. Unless you go Windows/Linux laptop with upgradeable parts, RAM is more important in terms of creating more flexibility of usage in the future for most MacOS laptops these days. You can use external storage to store your files later if you really need it. Or cloud storage if you prefer easy access
@jeffhale1189
@jeffhale1189 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I agree with your viewpoint on memory and storage. Blessings on your day.
@letsgowalk
@letsgowalk Жыл бұрын
I just hate how all the big box stores that have holiday discounts only stock the 8GB model, with no option to upgrade the RAM. Curiously enough though, you can get a version with the higher 10 core GPU and 512 GB SSD, but still only 8 GB RAM. 🤨
@John117M63
@John117M63 Жыл бұрын
My 2012 macbook pro still works fine, I wonder if the newer macs are just as reliable.
@ArcAudios77
@ArcAudios77 Жыл бұрын
Well spoken Sir, appreciated. Was a good listen, thanks.
@vananhleha
@vananhleha Жыл бұрын
So should I get a M2 Air 24GB or a base M1 pro?
@thomaspaaruppedersen6781
@thomaspaaruppedersen6781 Жыл бұрын
Another way of looking at it is that 16 GB extends the useful lifetime of the computer by years, which eventually *lowers* your yearly cost of having a computer.
@pouriakhanbolouki3855
@pouriakhanbolouki3855 Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, resell value of a computer is another factor which is usually lower for older computers.Consider the duration and resell value at the same time, and then make a better decision.
@thomaspaaruppedersen6781
@thomaspaaruppedersen6781 Жыл бұрын
@@pouriakhanbolouki3855 Resale value is also greatly improved with more RAM. Unless you want to buy are new every 1-2 years and sell as almost new, in which case it becomes really expensive. My wife has an 8-years old Air, which is limping along due to insufficient RAM - and the storage being stuffed with iPhoto. The processor is slow, but that's not the issue. RAM and storage are the 'problems'.
@growingmelancholy8374
@growingmelancholy8374 Жыл бұрын
@@thomaspaaruppedersen6781 Based on this argument, one should waste a ton of money on 24GB of RAM just so in 6 years you can sell your computer? I have a Macbook Pro from 2016 with 8 GB RAM and have zero issues. Of course, I can't say this would be the case for everyone since I don't do use many high memory apps, but my point is more that giving people some general advice to always upgrade the RAM, regardless of how they use the computer, is just irresponsible advice. For me, personally, I just ordered a MBA M2 8GB/512 GB SSD. I upgraded the SSD for many reasons, but find it worth the money, more so than upgrading the RAM.
@sunitjoshi3573
@sunitjoshi3573 Жыл бұрын
If you get refurbished or with educational discount, that helps!&
@dekurvajo
@dekurvajo Жыл бұрын
It was true when you could have upgrade ram, hdd or ssd drive. Now its all gone. Base modells amortization value will be extremely high, eg their price on the second hand market just will fall, because nobody going to buy it. Except if there will be an affordable way to solder new bga chips on it, but i doubt it. Its not the tech what missing today either, its about the cost of labour/time.
@_Davyid_
@_Davyid_ 6 ай бұрын
Please ,which is better a macbook m2 pro with 16 gb or a macbook m2 with 24 gb ram, dj use
@Mathimilou
@Mathimilou 4 ай бұрын
I like the statement: 'If you know what memory pressure is, you pretty much just selected into the 16GB of ram group by default'. Made that easy for me!
@kienhwengtai8113
@kienhwengtai8113 Жыл бұрын
Additional bonus with 16GB/24GB of RAM, less disk swapping on the SSD meaning less wear on the SSD.
@growingmelancholy8374
@growingmelancholy8374 Жыл бұрын
lol. Do you even understand how the SSD works? We're talking SSD here, not HDD
@Strand0410
@Strand0410 Жыл бұрын
@@growingmelancholy8374 SSD wear is 100% a thing. It's why manufacturers use metrics like TBW and DWPD to predict SSD lifespan
@kamikakushi_
@kamikakushi_ Жыл бұрын
@@growingmelancholy8374 Sounds like you don't understand either..
@mikeruizesparza1514
@mikeruizesparza1514 Жыл бұрын
Rene i currently have the MacBook Pro 13” 2017 16 GB Ram now 5 yeRs old. Still kicking asses but am planning to replace it with the new Air M2 15” if it really Hits the shelves of stores. Am not really a pro user so think it will be more than enough for my day to day workflow.
@oleshko-g
@oleshko-g Жыл бұрын
Very insightful video. Thank you for helping me to shoose a spec for MacBook Air M2
@etiennelj
@etiennelj Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about buying the MacBook Air M2, but I’m wondering which option would be better overall: the base model with 16 Go of RAM or the more expensive model with 8 Go of RAM… Where should I put my money: more RAM or better CPU…? Thanks! 🙏
@pauljazzman408
@pauljazzman408 Жыл бұрын
more cores in CPU will be hotter. Possible throttling. But wait for tests or Look on Amazon and you can get 14"M1 pro M1 MBP 8 /14 core 16GB 512GB for £1735 in Uk. That is cheaper Tham M2 MBA and way more powerful and better screen more ports etc
@mariotrancon1286
@mariotrancon1286 Жыл бұрын
I had the same question and I am thinking about the M1 256GB 16gb ram now :(
@pauljazzman408
@pauljazzman408 Жыл бұрын
@@mariotrancon1286 no get the 512Gb as the 256Gb is HALF the speed. Ram too but disk more important
@TrAnCoN14
@TrAnCoN14 Жыл бұрын
@@pauljazzman408 the M1 doesn’t have the problem.
@jesselam5867
@jesselam5867 Жыл бұрын
Even though I agree with the idea of getting more memory. (I have 16GB myself) For most users I think you are marking it sound worse than it actually is. Almost like 8GB should never be an option for buyers. For some people the base macbook is the limit of their budget. Yes 8GB is barely enough from a technical standpoint, but mac swaps between the disk so well you generally can’t tell unless you do something intensive or that it specifically demands ALL of the memory at once. Tasks like web browsing and general use don’t require that, and hence the performance difference between 8GB and 16GB is little to none. I think a better advice would be moreso in the lines of longevity. If you intend to use your mac longer than 4 years, then it is better to get more memory. Otherwise assuming your doing day to day tasks i really don’t see what’s wrong with the 8GB model.
@growingmelancholy8374
@growingmelancholy8374 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you said. 8GB is more than enough for a lot of light users, especially those buying a MBA. My MacBook Pro from 2016 has 8GB and I use around 5-6 GB on average. More than enough. Memory is there to be used, your computer isn't going to run faster by having 2 extra GB free of RAM. And especially considering the swap function, I think if people are going to upgrade, upgrade the SSD to 512, especially with the M2. It really comes down to what you use and how you use it.
@deepsoulfulsounds
@deepsoulfulsounds Жыл бұрын
These machines can last many years as noted by Rene and not upgrading to 16GB now could force you to upgrade earlier in the future. Think about longevity. I wish I upgraded my 2014 Macbook Air 11 to 8GB instead of sticking with the 4GB base model.
@deepsoulfulsounds
@deepsoulfulsounds Жыл бұрын
@@theoneonly5368 Depends on the person. I plan to use this for at least 8 years. Lots of people keep Macs for 7-10 years.
@kerrydaniels8460
@kerrydaniels8460 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that 16GB at this day in age for the price of this laptop and how cheap RAM is should be standard period. RAM absolutely extends the lifetime of a laptop by years and lack of RAM overtime definitely reduces. Especially with how aggressive swap is on these macs and no ability to replace storage. So nah, he's right. They overcharge massively for upgrades and built it this way to try and take advantage of folks. This price point make 16GB standard instead excuses to be real.
@Natan9000
@Natan9000 Жыл бұрын
I do agree, but when I upgrade the M2 air in The Netherlands with 16gb RAM and 512gb SSD its almost as expensive as the M1 pro 14 inch.. which has some other benefits. Besides size and weight that is but..
@matrixglitch4664
@matrixglitch4664 6 ай бұрын
yes and im thinking the same.. but that portability. size .. is a huge deciding factor..
@djsnowpdx
@djsnowpdx Жыл бұрын
So the two Mac notebooks which make sense to buy… Are the M1 MacBook Air for education at $750, less if you have an Intel Mac to trade in, and the base model 14” MacBook Pro. I’m the super nerd with the 16” M1 Max, but the 14” at $1700-$1800 is really the machine to beat.
@stephenridgway2720
@stephenridgway2720 Жыл бұрын
I’m running 16g of ram because of the os overhead and it was the right choice and with the 1T ssd my M1 MacBook Pro does the job.
@alexskolnick337
@alexskolnick337 Жыл бұрын
I did the same thing basically with just an air. The only time I really feel it is when I try to open multiple photoshop windows at once
@SuperCarioca2005
@SuperCarioca2005 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have the same setup and it is pretty much bulletproof. The only thing that EVER resulted in spinning beach ball was a weird macro on an 3rd party excel file.
@gtr2022
@gtr2022 Жыл бұрын
MAXTECH has a GREAT in-depth, real world comparison of M2 Base vs M2 16GB RAM and 512SSD. Dropped six hours earlier today.
@calraise6460
@calraise6460 Жыл бұрын
my current mac is a 2011 27" but cannot render anything i do and my business is changing. This is the issue I've been struggling with this issue.
@ogdanem
@ogdanem Жыл бұрын
What recommendation would be for a new user who wants to buy his first Apple computer? in my day, I only use and work with Office Apps (MS365)
@Richard.Cabeza
@Richard.Cabeza Жыл бұрын
My 2013 MBP 13” had 8/256 and I still use it. I bought the M1 8/256 7 months and I will likely buy the M2 8/256. The only application I run that stresses my system is Thinkorswim and only when I have multiple other apps open/running along with 2-3 desktops using safari with multiple tabs open with YT videos. I really shouldn’t and don’t need all that open at the same time, so I close them and the system runs just fine. 8/256 has been ok for almost 10 year and I think it will be ok for another 2 years. After that, maybe a M4 with 16/512. After having issues with the 2013 MBP, I’ve decided to never keep a laptop longer than 2 years. The people I give my laptop to have no need for more than 8/256.
@joeljrichards
@joeljrichards Жыл бұрын
I think what these videos are showing is that the M2-with only a single NAND chip for the 256GB SSD-is bottlenecking the SOC. So either get 16GB of RAM or 512GB of SSD if you get an M2 laptop. The base spec is a step backward because of the single chip SSD.
@Richard.Cabeza
@Richard.Cabeza Жыл бұрын
@@joeljrichards If if shows to have single NAND I'll just keep the M1 MBA.
@dennism1235
@dennism1235 Жыл бұрын
When you reckon the next lift coming for Ram and storage minimums on base models?
@ronsmith4330
@ronsmith4330 Жыл бұрын
Very delightful as usual. Thank you.
@tiny_blue-dot.
@tiny_blue-dot. Жыл бұрын
Love your videos Rene!
@bissekerskij
@bissekerskij Жыл бұрын
what about browsing, managing documents, but with a habit to have 100 safari tabs open and 50 pdf's in adobe viewer? On top of that run a zoom video call sharing the display. Obviously mail app, file manager, calendar, notes, messages, facebook messenger, etc are always open and run in background. Is this a heavy software? NO. Is this a heavy usage? Kind of. How would you comment this kind of daily routine? In this case would the 24GB option be the best? Or 16GB would be enough? Currently using the Intel macbook, so no experience with M1. Thinking of getting M2, but I'm not sure how much RAM to get.
@martinhoelicker3273
@martinhoelicker3273 Жыл бұрын
I still use my 2012 Mac Mini. I put a 1TB SSD and bumped it up to 16 GB of RAM. Runs great but in know I’ll have to get the M chip by the end of this year.
@pandaengine
@pandaengine Жыл бұрын
I had an 8/256 M1 MBA for 11 months. Last month I sold it and upgraded to 16/512 M1 Pro MBP 14. Halfway through my ownage of the MBA, my job changed and it started to require more graphics power and more RAM. I got through 5 months with a Windows machine, but I just love how powerful and how efficient Apple Silicone is, I couldn’t stop myself from upgrading. The Windows work laptop is more powerful, but also takes off with a click of a button, so loud. And I can’t even put it to sleep without it overheating for no reason. With the Mac, I don’t even worry about running out of battery life when I go out to do my work at a cafe for several hours. I did get into big debt for it, but it was worth it for my job.
@2392youngmoney
@2392youngmoney Жыл бұрын
Are you still enjoying your machine? Do you edit both video and photo’s? How is your swap usage? I am also looking at the base MBP 14
@stijn3085
@stijn3085 9 ай бұрын
Mental illness
@kennymccormick8295
@kennymccormick8295 7 ай бұрын
Apple SILICONE lol.
@jonathanllamas2423
@jonathanllamas2423 Жыл бұрын
As someone who isn’t considered a prosumer do not get 8GB of RAM. I’ve encountering more and more events where it just feels sluggish and a powering down and back up solves it
@elliem1
@elliem1 Жыл бұрын
Not sure which one to get M2 pro base version - more cores with 16gb RAM or M2 upgraded - less cores with 24gb ram. Use case Figma, Illustrator and Photoshop for professional day to day use. After effects - occasional. May dabble into 3D later if I take the M2 it will be 8 core CPU, 10 core GPU and 24GB ram. Can't afford the 32GB RAM upgrade in the M2 Pro. Would multiple cores aid the 16GB RAM and would that be enough?
@anandshah71
@anandshah71 Жыл бұрын
I am using my m1 air 16GB and only use safari and I make the machine crawl by the end of the day. If I use what’s app desktop and facebook it will be screwed. Macs memory flushing is crap I think. I have many tabs and multiple sites. I don’t close the pages Imagine everyday I need to restart my 16GB m1 If there is a memory flushing app on mac please suggest
@lamasteve6905
@lamasteve6905 Жыл бұрын
Little video and sound plugins ? 8 or 16 or 24 ?
@Wokiis
@Wokiis Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go with 24GB and sneakily do DaVinci Resolve work on it :) Ultraportable resolve work! I prefer not getting the 14 inch chonk boi. I want the futuristic thin machine that still packs oomph enough for my caliber of projects.
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
yeah might as well max out that ram, and personally I would go with 1TB SSD... then you don't need a bunch of dingle dangly drives hanging off the computer while on the road and you also get a much faster SSD (more chips used)
@cvetoche
@cvetoche Жыл бұрын
Hi! How is your experience so far?
@janon8329
@janon8329 Жыл бұрын
Good video…… for professionals . These KZfaqrs forget about a lot of the customers who are students who just want a reliable laptop, if you don’t content create or make money of your laptop, then get the base model. Average student only needs base model .
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 Жыл бұрын
With the much slower SSDs in the M2 2022 models, I would just go for the 16 GB of RAM, more for longevity than anything else. If you keep your machines for a long time, than 8 GB is NOT going to cut it anymore…
@pauljazzman408
@pauljazzman408 Жыл бұрын
The base model M2 has a single 256GB NAND chip that Max Tech have shown runs slower than the M1 base model! Usually base models are good but not in this case. Don't upgrade the M2 MBP either as then you might as well get the 14 inch pro Max.
@dansanger5340
@dansanger5340 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 The M1 is still for sale.
@awg7068
@awg7068 Жыл бұрын
If your a software engineer, 16 gig or more, otherwise 16 gig to 8 gig is fine.
@Coral_dude
@Coral_dude Жыл бұрын
If you’re a student you should just get a windows pc not an inferior base model.
@mallificat2490
@mallificat2490 Жыл бұрын
As of today in the UK I can buy the base M1pro 14" brand new for less than the equivalent ram/ssd M2 Air. I get that the Air will eventually get the same discounts but I'm at a loss to figure out Apple's pricing.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England Жыл бұрын
They mainly sell the base models of each machine, so the MB Pro 13 will sell in 8GB/256GB, mainly to ultrabook users (not pros) and they will be fine with that. I have an M1 MB Pro 13 and for office stuff it never misses a beat. Common sense is needed, buy what your workflow needs; if you cheap out on the base model when you are a prosumer then don't blame Apple, blame yourself for not getting the appropriate config.
@it5086
@it5086 Жыл бұрын
Hi Rene, an comment on the best configuration for parallel/window environment. Keep up the good work.
@danieldion8825
@danieldion8825 Жыл бұрын
The real question I think is what ssd size should you pick ? The 256gb with is now slower than the previous model or the 512gb ? After that, I think the ram option should be look at.
@Tech-geeky
@Tech-geeky Жыл бұрын
I'm been happy with 256 GB "for years" then on my m!, i went to 1TB.. and my views have not changed (I will never fill this thing up) It depends on what you use it for..... You can get external hard drive anyway.. but we all want tings in one place nowadays... That's the trade-off
@muffymummy
@muffymummy 8 ай бұрын
Perfect explanation. 😊 I hope to ask since iv just bought online and its still on its way, Mac Mini M2 with this specs 8 cpu 10 gpu 24gb ram. However i forgot to upgrade my storage got the 256gb baseline. Do you think it will still run smoothly for basic office work and a few video editing? Thanks alot ❤
@TheDanEdwards
@TheDanEdwards 7 ай бұрын
Get an external Thunderbolt SSD enclosure, a fast NVMe SSD. A 1TB external TB4 SSD can be put together for less than the Apple price to upgrade to just 512GB internally. Then with this external SSD: you will have to install MacOS on it, and then set it as your Start Up drive. Contrary to the claims in this video about speed, an external SSD like this will be more than fast enough for your uses.
@skjoldgames
@skjoldgames Жыл бұрын
I'm all for maxing out the ram, I have a M1 Max w/ 64GB of ram, but storage isn't as big of a consideration when we have cloud, NAS and external options. As a game dev, the amount of storage on I would need on device would be debilitatingly expensive.
@_ondrej
@_ondrej Жыл бұрын
If you had to pick an M2 Pro with 16gb unified memory and 12CPUs or 32gb unified memory and 10CPUs for productivity (tons of tabs with web apps running) - which would you go for?
@adamfeinsilver9296
@adamfeinsilver9296 Жыл бұрын
32GB/10CPU IMO. I'm not hearing many people pushing for that 12 core unless you are really into high end graphic stuff.
@mrbilllollar
@mrbilllollar 11 ай бұрын
I applaud your eloquence and your mastery of grammar. So refreshing to my old ears! Thanks for a great video!
@loserstateofmind1
@loserstateofmind1 Жыл бұрын
DAMMIT. I have been trying to justify getting the 8GB/256ssd combo but in the back of my head knew I wouldn't be future-proofing myself and now I know for sure I have to upgrade both as yes, it's a lot of money, but +400 over the course of the life of the computer is clearly more than worth it. Great video as always my guy.
@ryjk8865
@ryjk8865 Жыл бұрын
LOL ikr. I bought mine 16gb/256GB thinking of getting external storage... I am glad I picked bigger ram...and storage, you can get away with accessories. It won't be the same. LOL
@2-da3333
@2-da3333 Жыл бұрын
@@ryjk8865 you are still out of luck because MB M2 biggest problem is single chip 256 SSD.
@ryjk8865
@ryjk8865 Жыл бұрын
@@2-da3333 yeah that's another reason that I am waiting for the mb pro. ;)
@growingmelancholy8374
@growingmelancholy8374 Жыл бұрын
@@2-da3333 Yeah, but people don't undertannd this. They keep acting like you MUST pair the 512GB SSD with 16 GB.
@toucheslapper
@toucheslapper Жыл бұрын
....and you'll upgrade again before the future comes so your extra outlay is pointless.
@christianalejandroflores8501
@christianalejandroflores8501 Жыл бұрын
does Unity 3D work well in a MBA M2 512/8GB? I know 16 GB is the best option but it goes out of my current budget…
@fossjonc
@fossjonc Жыл бұрын
@rene I think what people are complaining about is that the options Apple offers are soo expensive yet greatly needed. Since we can't upgrade the RAM or storage after the fact and we can't get third party cheaper options, we are forced to pay hundreds if not over a thousand more in reasonable options. Just to do a 16GB RAM upgrade and a 1TB storage option because the whole point of a laptop is meant to hold your data in a mobile fashion without needing to carry extra external storage. Apple has soo many SKUs with these costly crazy options and it confuses and compounds the line up for the customer to choose from!
@mendodsoregonbackroads6632
@mendodsoregonbackroads6632 Жыл бұрын
Yes I also have thought that 16 / 512 should be the base level as well. I’m glad I got 16 1TB on my M1 iMac. Even on a desktop you don’t want a bunch of unnecessary dongles and things connected to the back of the computer all the time. I financed mine because, 0% from Apple and it was like $170 a month for a year and now its all behind me. I have a very nice machine that I’m not disappointed with that will last for years.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England Жыл бұрын
Apple has always had that business model, a cheaper priced (for Apple) base model and then make its margins with higher config choices. This is not new and MS does it as well on their ARM machines (ARM by nature have soldered RAM and NAND).
@whiteroommenace
@whiteroommenace Жыл бұрын
16GB upgrade for M1 Air for economy and 14" base for any other sounds much more reasonable product. M2 seems to be a confusing product for a confused user who either felt 14" was too expensive or M1 Air 8GB was too restrictive. Had they launched M2 pro 13 with just a16GB base variant, I think the tables would have completely turned against M2 air.
@beelzzebub
@beelzzebub Жыл бұрын
Agreed - although they probably would have had to keep the 256GB composed of two 128GB NAND Flash drives to keep the performance respectable (a single NAND Flash of 256GB in the M2 makes a storage upgrade an essential cost sadly - with 2 NAND Drives, you could justify going for lower storage still...)
@aakashkhanal7341
@aakashkhanal7341 Жыл бұрын
Will macbook air m2 have same ssd problem for base variant
@nathanhedglin931
@nathanhedglin931 Жыл бұрын
Solid advice. I ordered 16gb 512gb M2 Air. Yes, RAM DOES bloat over time. I did 512gb to err on the side of safety if Apple does 1x256gb SSD vs 2x128gb like the M2 Pro. Anything more than that, yup just get a pro.
@nautilushaeuser3604
@nautilushaeuser3604 Жыл бұрын
Aren't you so very close to the 14 Pro prisewise?
@_Digitalguy
@_Digitalguy Жыл бұрын
This was extremely well explained, especially the part debunking the myth of 8GB unified memory is equivalent to 16GB of non unified RAM
@SkylineFinesse
@SkylineFinesse Жыл бұрын
I don’t recall that ever being a myth or even a thought process
@_Digitalguy
@_Digitalguy Жыл бұрын
@@SkylineFinesse then your haven't watched enough youtube videos...
@SkylineFinesse
@SkylineFinesse Жыл бұрын
@@_Digitalguy I don’t need youtube to know the fundamentals of computers. If you thought less ram was better thats on you
@_Digitalguy
@_Digitalguy Жыл бұрын
@@SkylineFinesse Did you even read my comment properly?? Where on earth did I say less RAM is better. The fact that you were not aware that several youtubers (including some big ones) have been spreading the misinformation that 8GB of unified memory is equivalent to 16GB of non unified RAM does not make it any less real...
@SkylineFinesse
@SkylineFinesse Жыл бұрын
@@_Digitalguy why i need to be aware of what bullshit some clowns on youtube are spewing is beyond me. It makes no difference to what I already knew to be the case. Thank you so much “digital guy” did you know analog computer were actually more accurate lmfao
@joethong726
@joethong726 Жыл бұрын
I have iMac M1 24" 16GB RAM and damn it's so slow when I open multiple tabs and apps.
@hasnainmankani2206
@hasnainmankani2206 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video!!
@paxundpeace9970
@paxundpeace9970 Жыл бұрын
Even consider that previous models had a dedicated graphic that had additional memory.
@JenniferDacon
@JenniferDacon 11 ай бұрын
Well said thanks for sharing :-) I agree depends on what you use it for right? THANKS FOR explaining.
@InvestorsHeaven
@InvestorsHeaven 9 ай бұрын
I am thinking of going 24 cause I am recording for KZfaq (screen + external camera as webcam) and 16gb could get fairly close to getting maxed out I think in that scenario. Easily.
@thomasfokas
@thomasfokas Жыл бұрын
3 instances of Kontakt sampler with (3) 40GB Stratovarius violins and cello runs fine with other plugins and memory pressure stays in the yellow.
@eric89074
@eric89074 Жыл бұрын
Spend the extra cash and get 16GB and 512GB. This is a laptop you can easily get a great five years out of. The resale value will be higher as well.
@musiccer7446
@musiccer7446 7 ай бұрын
Or 24gb of ram with using cheaper external add storage. Practically the same speed. And the difference of 265 to 512gb is not large enough to justify 200€ extra imo. Ram however is
@tristanpaulpestano544
@tristanpaulpestano544 Жыл бұрын
I disagree on the recommendation to just go to Mx Pro chipset when choosing 24GB. The price is still much higher on Mx Pro since when trying to have an a close RAM config(32GB), it will be more expensive. 24GB M2 Air is the budget option.
@RafaelLudwig
@RafaelLudwig Жыл бұрын
I agree, get as much RAM as you can afford. Also, knowing that the OS by itself uses 5gbs just to run idle. I'd rather spend money than waste time. Everyone has to choose which is more important to them. As always a great video Rene!
@anires1195
@anires1195 Жыл бұрын
5GB? that's not true. If anything the wired memory which is the OS is about 1.10GB and if you open activity manager right when you boot up the machine it uses around 3.50GB
@keco185
@keco185 Жыл бұрын
Saying the OS uses 5GB isn't quite right. Memory usage is a mostly useless metric in macOS because of how memory compression, prefetching, and caching works. The computer stores files in memory that would normally be on disk just in case you need them and doesn't instantly remove elements from memory when you're done with them if you have memory to spare. It also won't bother to do memory compression.
@oterp3381
@oterp3381 17 күн бұрын
Very helpful video.
@mikewheeler9011
@mikewheeler9011 Жыл бұрын
With unified memory, you should think of it as half. When I'm gaming on my 16gb ryzen laptop, the GPU will happily eat 7-8gb of ram.
@Fear.of.the.Dark.
@Fear.of.the.Dark. Жыл бұрын
but who is gaming on macbook air?
@jeanmichelaulas1205
@jeanmichelaulas1205 Жыл бұрын
You said that 8GB, on apple silicon, isn’t magically the same as 16GB. But is that compared to other macs, or pcs as well ? Because if I’m not mistaken, macs are more optimised compared to pcs
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 Жыл бұрын
1. You can only optimize so much. RAM is still RAM, and with the slower SSDs on the new M2 models for swap it’s now a MUST to upgrade. 2. Technically, if you want an “optimized system, then go with Linux and a Window manager. Those windows managers and the XFCE and LXQt desktop environments can run on machines with as little as 2 GB and make even higher RAM configurations feel even snappier than a Mac. But of course you’d need a different machine right now; Apple Silicon Macs currently don’t have great Linux support.
@jeanmichelaulas1205
@jeanmichelaulas1205 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 oh okay thank you !!
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 Жыл бұрын
@@jeanmichelaulas1205 No problem.
@Colorado-Coyote
@Colorado-Coyote 11 ай бұрын
If you try to play crossy road on the Mac m2 it maxes out and heats up
@laserjakk3629
@laserjakk3629 Жыл бұрын
Hi Rene, music producer here, thinking buy Mac Mini M2 Pro. Do you think, in my case 16gb is enough or should I consider extra $400 and get 32gb. I dont want to waste money, unless is necessary.
@adamfeinsilver9296
@adamfeinsilver9296 Жыл бұрын
Looking at the SAME machine and the SAME option on the video editing side. I may get back into Logic Pro as well. Quite a price bump on top of an bumping up the HD. What size drive are you looking at?
@keithdaniels1799
@keithdaniels1799 Жыл бұрын
We just bought an M1 MacBook Air with 8Gb RAM. I wanted 16Gb but I couldn’t convince the one paying for it, especially due to the yen price in Japan.
@lunarosa321
@lunarosa321 Ай бұрын
How are you liking it? What do you mostly use it for?
@eagleeyemedia3970
@eagleeyemedia3970 4 ай бұрын
big help, THANKS!!!
@DonutAgain
@DonutAgain Жыл бұрын
I just want to say if you are a programmer and often have Chrome and IntelliJ and Docker open at the same time, please go with as much RAM as possible.
@DaveCondie
@DaveCondie Жыл бұрын
I have 16 on my M1 MBA and 8 on my M1 Mac Mini - honestly can’t see the difference during usage.
@jaredandjake1
@jaredandjake1 Жыл бұрын
Ordered a 16/512 yesterday, thinking about 24/512 just to be safe. Want it for video and photo editing.
@1MU51C4L
@1MU51C4L Жыл бұрын
Most of your advice is based and guided towards MacBooks, but what about Mac Mini, I mean when you don't need compactness or portability? What about RAM/ROM configuration then?
@stephen303
@stephen303 Жыл бұрын
I'd still 100% upgrade RAM, as that will improve performance and multitasking every time you use the computer. In a non-mobile Mac Mini, I would probably stick with low internal storage (256 GB), then buy a fast external SSD and have it always plugged in. You can even add a little sticker or velcro to keep it in place lol. It costs $740 to add the 2TB upgrade from Apple, whereas a 2TB Samsung T7 SSD is only $219. There is an inherent speed difference (internal is faster) but I think most users wouldn't notice or care.
@toucheslapper
@toucheslapper Жыл бұрын
10 years ago people were saying the same thing. "Buy 16gb to future proof". Here we are today and 8gb is still enough for most people. Not to mention the fact that most people that care enough to watch these videos upgrade to the next best thing sooner than later. If you are going to upgrade to the newest MacBook Air in 2 years future proofing is irrelevant.
@PetrolPatrol
@PetrolPatrol Жыл бұрын
I ordered the 16GB M2 in Midnight, and got offered a polishing cloth for $25...
@pherylihy58
@pherylihy58 Жыл бұрын
I opted for 24GB due to processing high resolution photos in Lightroom. I hope this can handle it.
@Eyeofkamau
@Eyeofkamau Жыл бұрын
That’s more than enough photos. Getting 16, 24 or more gb of ram is mainly a must for video editing
@jacobfield4848
@jacobfield4848 Жыл бұрын
M2 Airbook with 512 Storage and 16gb Ram is $2000 in the UK. You can get Windows laptops that have the same specs for $1250.
@matrixglitch4664
@matrixglitch4664 6 ай бұрын
yeah but..they're windows..lol ..no comparison porsche costs more than Toyota..clearly.
@AbiyBattleSpell
@AbiyBattleSpell Жыл бұрын
16 is starting to be the new minimum too. if u plan to hold it for more then 5 yrs id get as much ram as u can.
@skeche
@skeche Жыл бұрын
This was the video I’ve been looking for, but it’s still speculation until we actually get real benchmarks once mba2 comes out.
@WaddleMan91
@WaddleMan91 Жыл бұрын
I currently have the M2 MBA 8/256 but after some thought I’m gonna return it and i purchased the 16/512. I look at this for the future and not just the here and now. I probably would never use it to it’s full potential but i rather future proof myself if and when Apple has OS updates for the next 7 years
@DDuMas
@DDuMas Жыл бұрын
16GBs is the spot for me for the last 10 years for everything including music production. I've never needed more. Most of the time I'm not using all of the 16GBs. 8GBs isn't bad for daily use. My dad has a PC with 8GBs in dual channel 2x 4GBs. And it's really smooth still. It's interesting that iPhone uses 4GB RAM. I was under the impression that wasn't useful for 64bit. But smart-phones are managed very differently. And the nerd in me loves the tight optimisation and efficiency of iPhones which is something that would be difficult for Android with all the different handsets. My philosophy with storage, has always been, small SSD, large external HDD. For me, all the things I need speed for can be on a 250GB SSD, which is mostly the apps themselves. But all the things I store are nothing that requires storage speed and I'm happy for them to stay on external HDDs.
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
why would 4GB not be useful for 64bit? guess you misunderstand the difference on 32bit vs 64bit... 32bit could not address ABOVE 4GB... so putting in 8GB would not make a difference since the system could only see 4GB 64bit can address 16EB (Exabytes) or 16.000.000.000GB but for now they have much lower limit since noone is anywhere near that limit so 4-6TB of RAM can be seen on servers. A 64bit system can still see/use/benefit from just 4GB if it doesn't need anymore to run.
@DDuMas
@DDuMas Жыл бұрын
@@LiLBitsDK From what I understand, 64bit OS and applications also takes up more ram space than 32bit os and applications. So 64bit in 4GBs isn't as much space as 32bit in 4GBs. I remember on my 4GB iMac, first the OS was 32bit, then 32/64 hybrid, then 64bit and OSX used up more and more RAM. Eventually including RAM compression in OSX Lion. Helped, but wasn't as good as the 32bit OSs really.
@CaptivaLP
@CaptivaLP 6 ай бұрын
I still rock a mid 2012 MacBook Pro with 16GB an ram. Insane that it’s still more ram than the base models offer 12 years later…
@oneforcesound
@oneforcesound Жыл бұрын
Best video on this felt so real and honest
@gamineglass
@gamineglass Жыл бұрын
Hi I’m about to replace my eight year old MacBook Pro and you answered all of my questions. Thank you so much for this video
@lunarosa321
@lunarosa321 Ай бұрын
which one did you end up getting and what configurations?
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