By the way, here's Part One of my series on hazing accidents - which covers some cases from a little earlier in recent history: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9xdidOgztCXj6M.html

If your friends want to torture you as a requirement to be friends. It's not worth it, and they should probably be on a watch list somewhere.

I can maybe understand not realizing the dangers of drinking too much water in a short period of time, but waiting an hour to call an ambulance after someone suffers a seizure is not exactly "an accident"

Hazing is one of the lowest forms of human activity. It's sadism.

There were seven pledging deaths in 2019 alone. At one time I thought fraternities were moving away from hazing, but not anymore.

I never understood Greek Life in College - I wasn’t gonna pay $500+ a month to be beat up and (possibly) killed, over the idea of ‘brotherhood’

My frat just did silly stuff like painting a giant chess board, having us dress up as chess pieces, then using us to play a game.

Timothy Piazza, who died during hazing at the Beta Theta Pi fraternity at Penn State in 2017. He was forced to drink lots of alcohol, then fell down stairs, and despite the fraternity members being clearly aware that he was seriously injured, they did not call EMS. Instead, they left him on a couch, all by himself, for more than 12 hours. Eventually, Timothy died from a ruptured pancreas. His live could have been saved if he had been brought to a hospital. Lawsuits were filed, but eventually Penn State and the fraternity wiggled their way out of harsh consequences. Hazing is horrible, many young and promising lives lost over puberty power glory and madness.

I have never understood why hazing activities have to be so brutal. Why not make the pledges endure nine weeks of volunteering at a local food pantry or helping veterans mow their lawns? I know it sounds like trivial work, but having to give up multiple weekends to help someone else is NOT a trivial sacrifice for someone that young, and it would help someone as well.

I joined a fraternity during rush week, and afterwards the Wednesday nights "on the line" began. All manner of psychological terror and manipulation began, including instance of gross things, like this unknown "stew" poured over us (and we cleaned it all up). Other days of the week, there was indiscriminate bullying, meant to throw you off your game. Imagine trying to study throughout this! I took six weeks of this, but with six weeks left to the semester, I broke and reported the abuse. The frat shut down for a few years -- I don't know how long -- but it's back now. Still, I did what I deeply felt I had to do. And I saved my semester.

In Portugal, in recent memory, at least two different hazing situations killed half a dozen people at the same time. One had people being buried under a collapsed wall and on the other, being dragged by waves and drown, because they were tied up to each other by the sea shore. These activities should be outlawed for good. I absolutely said no when I went to the university and suffered threats and harassmenf for it, but at least I didn't die.

Putting 18-20 year olds in charge of the lives of others is so incredibly dangerous. They almost never have the experience or knowledge to appreciate that people could very well die. Authorized college events--like football games--often have EMTs right next to the field, and that's for a very good reason.

I wanted to join a sorority but I immediately left the room when they wanted to us to do rituals, or hazing activities. Such as going around the university naked and stuff like that, I was like nope. The next day one of the leaders got arrested for putting one of the newbies in the hospital. I’m so glad I didn’t stick around it could’ve been so much worse. I’m sorry to the families that happened to their loved ones. 😢🕊️

The only hazing rituals that should be allowed are works of public service.

I never had a chance to meet my uncle Gerald, as he was killed in a hazing decades before I was born. The way my father told me, he was pledging for Sigma Pi's UC Berkeley chapter. Him and at least two others had sacks put over their heads before they were dumped on a country road with the task to find their way back to campus. Either before they could get the sacks off or while they were finding their way back, a truck passing over a hill couldn't see them and struck them, killing my uncle. My grandmother dreaded the year my father spent at Berkeley because of what happened. My sister and I have looked into some other hazing deaths (she showed me this video in fact) and we agree that it was a small mercy that Gerald's death wasn't one of the more brutal hazings that have murdered people.

So many of the perpetrators of these rituals have got away with killing a fellow student. It's heartbreaking. One of them who was sent to prison said he had to live with the disability of being a felon for the rest of his life for his part in the death of one of his fellow students. That isn't a disability. It's a consequence of his own stupidity. A disability is a life long health condition. He was deluded

With friends like that, who needs enemies? Fraternities are for people who can't figure out how to make friends on their own.....and we see from the hazing exactly why these people can't make friends on their own.

The first and last case reminds me of Sanda Dia, a Belgian student who of a hazing ritual. He was 20. Dia was obliged to drink fish oil, and alcoholic drinks and stand outdoors in freezing water, amongst being subject to other humiliating and degrading acts. After collapsing, he was driven to hospital where he died of multiple organ failure two days later. His death was attributed to the salt content in the fish oil he ingested. Four years later (!!!) the accused, all ‘upperclass’ sons of lawyers, magistrates, and judges, were fined €400 each and sentenced to 200 or 300 hours of community service by the Antwerp Court of Appeal. This means their criminal record stays empty. And obviously, they stay anonymous. A Belgian KZfaqr called Acid put their names online and was also persecuted although this went quicker. He received a three-month suspended prison sentence and a €800 fine for the crime. This will be noted on his criminal record. This caused many to believe Belgium has a class-based justice. Being “unwillingly” responsible for the death of somebody is a much lighter crime than giving these people a name and thus attacking their privacy!

Reminds me of the old saying “with friends like these, who needs enemies?”

I am so glad that the main Greek organization on my college’s campus kicked me out of recruitment for missing a detail on an outfit we were supposed to wear during rush week. Because of that I saved a TON of money, avoided a lot of drama, and ended up joining a service sorority in the independent-level Greek organization where I met people I do still call sister today. You don’t have to torture people to bond with them. Turns out you can just… do meaningful stuff together. Crazy, I know.

I'm a CPP graduate and this is my first time ever hearing the Case of Kenny Luong. Hazing is something that should not be a requirement of college Greek life. Brotherhood and sisterhood on campuses should only be proven by students having each other's backs rather than having to prove loyalty in deadly stunts.

In my early internet days I was on a massage board and some frat-boy knobhead was boasting about the hazings he’d inflicted on the new pledges. He seemed to be quite taken aback / offended at my response of “What the fuck is wrong with you?”

In my country, we have many cases of law school hazing. In one case, frat men from one of the top ranking law schools in the country had beaten a neophyte so badly that he ended up having a heart attack and died. The men who were found to have been liable for the death of a neophyte ended up going on to become lawyers despite the criminal case.

This might sound extreme but Greek life is no different from a cult

Groups of individuals like this are sadistic in nature to me, maybe not everyone but individuals with dark triad personalities are certainly attracted to a setting like this. Some of the most dangerous individuals in history were members of groups like this because their dark personality traits are acceptable and, as the individual realizes, rewarded by other aspects of many societies later in life. They seek positions of power like government, judges, and corporate institutions, where they can manipulate others and harm many with their personality reflected in policies. Greek society collapsed for a reason. These older individuals also shield younger ones from responsibility because they hold powerful positions.

How many of these hazing bullies get off trouble due to family money ?

I finished my degree several years before Kenny Luong, but I attended Cal Poly Pomona. And stories like these make me feel better about not pledging a fraternity.

Hazing is basically organized bullying. It has absolutely nothing to do with brotherhood. The fact that there are so many people in this world who willingly participate in perpetrating these vicious actions on other human beings makes me sick.

This is a huge problem in many countries and are underestimated in many case (at least in France). Good for you to bring awareness on this human stupid brutality.

Just a little aside, Monmouth university was used as a set location for the movie "Annie." The University centerpiece, Wilson Hall, was used as Daddy Warbucks' mansion.

Please cover the fatal hazing ritual of Sanda Dia in Belgium! Its horrific and the men who did it got almost no punishment! More people should know about it!!!

Being a criminal is NOT a disability! Disabilities are not choices!

The Monmouth hazing was genuinely an accident, that’s so sad. The passing of Kenny, on the other hand, was not. The fact that no charges were pursued is mind boggling with how many forms of torture they used. Wild that it’s a nationally recognized frat.

I had friends in common with Matthew, guys who were messed up for years after his passing. Such a ridiculous and tragic story. RIP to all 3 of the young men featured

In my country, last week happened something definitely fit for this channel: A man was working in the repair of a septic pumping machine, at the bottom of a well with two other men helping. They started feeling bad and tried to go up but just two of them could make ut out and the remaining one died in the spot. Later that day, 5 firefighter workers came to explore and retrieve the body and they also died. The whole thing is still in investigation

As an outsider looking in, the concept of fraternities and pledging and willingly being tortured and humiliated to join is very strange to me.

It's all about peer pressure. This kind of thing is stupid, dangerous, and it needs to stop.

I've never understood the desperation to be a follower.

You know, my dad said that his fraternity initiation in the early 1950s involved catching eggs. Simpler times, I guess. Another good show!

I was a member of a fraternity. Yes, i was hazed, some of it humorous, and some of it physical and degrading. It was hard, but i did it. I became an officer in the fraternity and supported it the best that I could and I had a great time. I excelled and won best sophomore and junior awards. That is until my ex and I broke up. My ex was in a sorority that many of my "brothers" were dating her sisters. After the breakup, false lies and rumors soon spread and I was soon shunned by all. Some of my so-called "brothers" were even good friends that I graduated high school with. I would not recommend joining a collegiate Greek organization to anyone.

It would be interesting to cover hazing amongst other types of groups - I remember sometime around 2011-2015ish there was an incident of hazing in a university marching band that made national news, and I feel like I’ve heard stories about similar incidents with sports teams too. My university took a hard line on hazing and even something as simple as having pledges wear a pin during pledging was scrutinized by admin. But better that than a tragic death or bullying!

How to get away with murder: "It was just a hazing, bro."

...Oh wow, American Football, WITHOUT safety gear?! That isn't even stupid, it's outright sadism.

They waited an hour to call an ambulance after he was flat on the ground its clear who's fault that is

9:16 - and yet they weren't shut down, or the national organization sued. S That would've killed it quick before it killed yet more students.

Hazing is just blatant torture, and it’s completely beyond me how they don’t immediately go to prison. If you force someone to drink to excess, that’s already poisoning, a form of attempted murder. Like... Usually, in most places, attempted murder is very illegal 😬

It both saddens and amazes me that some people can have the capacity to cause suffering and harm to other people just for the lulz. This is why I prefer pets.

i went to chico ten years ago and during orientation they informed us about that hazing incident among others and detailed the strict no hazing policy that was enacted as a result. interesting to learn that phi tau wasnt affiliated at the time. when i went i believe they were affiliated but they were almost universally despised for being the most belligerent and stereotypical frat in town.

I tried pledging to a sorority when I was in college. I got as far as them bringing us into the basement of their house one night just to yell at us about doing shit wrong (which was like...maybe a couple weeks in?) and realized I had too much self-worth to go through that nonsense. Like...I have absolutely zero problem with wanting to be part of a Greek organization. We're all pack animals, at the end of the day, and we crave belonging to a group. It's not bad in itself. The hazing shit, however, is ridiculous. Fortunately, the next year I got into an honors fraternity and it was one of the best things I joined during college. Our pledge activities were mandatory study nights and then games afterward (which did, admittedly, go til midnight, but were otherwise 100% harmless and truly DID bond us together). I'm still friends with some of them over 20 years later. I can't judge these kids for wanting so desperately to belong that they'd go through all that, but I will say that, as bad as my self-esteem has always been, I feel fortunate that I was able to stand up for myself.

Given how obviously stupid and dangerous some hazing stories I've heard are, that sand one is surprisingly innocent. I can see why the people involved might have thought that it would be safe.

It's maddening that so many of these perpetrators are let go by the courts or at the most, they see very little punishment.

It's amazing how in the first one they made every effort to scare but not harm and threw all pretenses aside as soon as their friend was in danger, but the other two cases they were clearly playing fast and loose with their "friends" lives.

I wasn't very sensible or mature when I was 17, but I knew I had zero interest in joining a fraternity, and part of that was rejecting the idea of humiliating myself or risking injury.

The first story of the three is an unexpected good reminder that events meant to be entirely student organized don't have to intend harm to accidentally become unsafe, if adult monitors are there or aren't smart enough to see problems coming. I remember other university tragedies of this kind being covered. Given the extreme nightmare stories of hazing as abuse, starting with a story like this is a good reminder that the life-threatening issues start well before there are those levels of callousness present. The last two of the three hazing stories are more expected, sadly, and horrendous because, clearly, the line of malicious intent was crossed. Both the individuals doing the harm and the entire fraternity, (present or absent) during the events could have seen the incredible danger here coming, and it's really surprising to hear that the organizations weren't ALL held to account legally and didn't ALL have to cease existing. Sure, it's important to bring individual charges, but these are often group attacks with institutional legacy allowing them to become what they are. Institutions should be accountable too.

This topic has an endless list of dumb and dangerous stunts allowed on campus over the years.. Very well done as per usual, thank you :)

i clicked on this one so fast! thank you for part two!

How do these people not realise they are torturing these young "pledges"? To death. 😢

I always look forward to a Tuesday morning video by FH

You can make an experience unpleasant or challenging without endangering life. The outcomes of so many of these examples was foreseeable: -digging a large hole in sand has a high risk of collapse and suffocation. -doing anything to excess is dangerous (drinking water, not sleeping, exercising, etc) -deliberate and repeated physical assaults have the risk of going too far or going beyond what an individual’s body can handle -you should NEVER ignore certain signs and always should get medical assistance for things like: seizures, difficulty rousing someone or finding someone not responsive to external stimuli, sudden onset/severe headaches, signs of shock, among other symptoms.

A tradition of bonding over something as stupid as I was treated like shit and tortured during hell week so you have to be as well! Don't we all feel closer now? Just what the actual fuck. I guess the rich folk connections that can be made in fraternities and last a life time are worth it if you live to enjoy them?!

Hazing should just be pledges placed in one of those escape rooms that they have to work together to get out of, given a task like a scavenger hunt, or just something silly like having to put on a drag show. They should be activities that build rapport and create a cooperative environment. Hazing, at its core, is just an excuse for existing fraternity members to relentlessly bully other students. They know how badly the pledges want to get in, which gives them free reign on the level of torture they put them through.

I still remember visiting Colorado Spring and I'd forgotten all my Xanax and Vicodin and the sudden cessation made me unable to sleep. Down the street from our youth hostel, these poor girls getting hazed by a sorority were made to dance and repeat some chant that ended in WHEEEEW! starting at the break of dawn. I can still hear it. They were dressed in a dumb outfit. I listen to it go on for 4 hours. I almost went down there and sprayed them down with a hose.

We just tragically lost a 7 yr old girl here in FL when she and her brother dug a deep hole on the beach which collapsed on them. People don't seem to perceive the danger involved. RIP William and all the others who died as a result of hazing

As someone who went through fraternity hazing themselves, it really is crucial that those brothers do pay attention for any bad signs. Luckily not something I ever had to deal with

Man. Gabriel's statement was all about how hard HIS life was going be. Not an ounce of remorse for actually killing someone.

Traditions to bond socially shouldn’t require you to possibly injure or practically poison yourself to the point where you need medical help Should also take into account that being in a sand hole can be dangerous. Anyone who has buried themselves partially would know that

Just one of the many reasons I had no desire whatsoever to join a sorority when I was in college. I don't know if they haze like fraternities. But either way, I knew what hazing was, and I didn't even want the chance of having any part of it. And even if they only did the milder stuff, I'm socially awkward and embarrass myself enough on my own, lol, I don't need anyone else to do it for me. Plus I have sensory issues, and there are things I simply cannot force myself to eat/do, no matter how much I want to, or who is screaming at me to do it. Couple that with my social anxiety and RDS, and that would actually be a nightmare scenario, to me. I knew without even thinking about it that sorority life wouldn't be a good fit for me. And I knew they'd know it too, and they probably wouldn't accept me anyway. I'm not a girly-girl. I don't wear Uggs or dress cute, I prefer to go without and makeup, may hair is always a mess no matter how hard I try, lol, and I don't drink Starbucks, or enjoy going to big loud parties. And that's okay with me. I am who I am, and I love me. I didn't/don't need any validation, from anyone else. But I wouldn't have fit in with those girls. (Not that all sorority girls are that way, or do that stuff, but most of the sisters I saw, were and did.) Nah, I'd just much rather spend my time by my introverted self, or, sometimes, with my very close circle. I like to live life by my own rules, on my own terms, answering to no one but me myself. Always have, always will. So that's exactly what I've always done, and exactly what I always will do. But I'm not judging. Sorority/fraternity life might not have been for me, but others love it, and that's okay. I just wish they'd tone down on their hazing. Or do nice things like volunteer, like others said. You don't need to do dangerous stuff to prove your loyalty, or to bond. In fact, I feel like doing volunteer community service for others, showing human love, would bond me to someone way better than that other crazy stuff. All these stories are tragically sad. The first one, though, I feel like was just a horrible accident, that came about out of ignorance of just how dangerous sand can be. But the others are just stupid, STUPID macho bravado. This stuff should never happen. Those kids should NEVER have had to die. I'm so sorry for all their loved ones.

Finally, part II. I have been waiting for months!

Felony is not a "disability", that is a term for something worthy of compassion and understanding for circumstances that can't be helped. That young man was immature, but was still old enough to have that basic compassion and appreciation for human dignity -- that's why they took such delight in the *indignity* of the hazing. He chose to become a felon, and isn't deserving of sympathy for that. Forgiveness, perhaps, but I'm kinda bothered that he was insensitive enough to equate his actions with "disability."

What a pleasant surprise this morning.

I was a student in public schools in California in the 1970s. As I recall, every student handbook, whether in high school, or at UC Irvine, expressly forbade hazing. It is nuts that this sort of thing was (is?) still happening decades later. A friend of mine in college joked about the fraternity ITK, for "I Tappa Kegga." That seemed to be an appropriate moniker for most of them. } When my mom was in college in the 1950s, being a member of a fraternity or sorority was practically required if you wanted any kind of social life. Even her mom had to endure hazing a generation before that. I never saw the point of being a member myself. I had nothing to do with the "greeks." And they are nowhere near as popular now.

hazing is like a downward spiral. the older members seek some kind of revenge on new members for what they had to endure to become a member. this is bound to generate some slip-ups...

I always thought these "fraternities" are nothing but an occult.

Love LOVE this channel

Very interesting subject. Thanks

I’ve been waiting for this video for so long!

A problem with hazing is that the incentive is always to take things slightly further, year after year, because the trauma-bonding doesn't work as well with the younger pledges if they suffer less than you have

Peer pressure is so vastly overated i mean if this is what you have to do to fit it its much better to remain as an outcast at least your dignity would be intact and my life for that matter

I'm so glad there's a part two yay!!!!

Always enjoy your videos, thanks for another interesting anthology!

Frats are inheritly cringe

Seriously? 😂You gonna let Mr W Flowers fabulous 'fro get by with no mention? A sad loss indeed.... ❤

Frats here have generally gotten away from hazing, and gone more towards charity events, competing with other frat houses ( like organized bike rides or marathons). This gives the public a much better image of fraternity and sorority houses...

Thank you for highlighting this disturbing and disgusting practice.

what a great way to start off my morning

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May God comfort the families of those students who perished. My sincerest condolences. Thank you for sharing these stories.

Awesome video as always

friendships shouldn't have any conditions. Love and light are the 2 things to form a friendship that will last.

Wild that this dropped as I'm pledging I will say it has gotten a lot better now that most campuses have formally banned hazing and most (sadly not all 🙄) follow these rules Makes the process a lot safer

Congratulation to people who passed their "initiation" for their fraternity. They just gained valuable abussive and untrustworthy people that will forever chase them for the rest of their lives. All their pain is so worth it. But for real, if I want a circle of friends, I don't need them needlessly to hurt or humiliate me when a barely know them. That thing comes after when you have real bonds with your friends and even with that doesn't go to an extent like these fraternity groups have been doing to their recruits.

Another great video!

9 weeks is insane! Be a GDI - God Damn Independent! Anyone who says you have to pay & be tortured to become “brothers” is not a friend you want. There are better people out there who will love & support you for free. Hazing is so dangerous & stupid!

Good video this. Had no idea what Hazing was or indeed that there had been related accidents around Hazing. Got a few of ideas for you to at least consider doing in the near future that I think you can make a good job on a video on. 1. Japan Air Lines Flight 123 - After a minor landing incident 7 years earlier, a Boeing 747 carrying 524 passengers and crew on a flight from Tokyo to Osaka, suffered a servers structural failure, which made the plane crashed into a mountain side and resulting in only 4 survivors. To this day, its remains the deadliest single aircraft disaster in aviation history. 2. Eruption on Mt Pelée in 1902 - After several warnings about the destruction of the town of St Pierre, the volcano went on to obliterated the towns population in a matter of seconds leaving some 30,000 citizens suffocated and burnt. 3. (This one admittedly is a bit more out there in terms of whether you want to call this an accident or not compered to ones you've already covered where no one gets killed in, but to me it was an incident that taught an important lesson in how to operate heavy and complicated machines like steam trains) Blue Peter rail tour on 1st October 1994 - A steam hauled excursion train pulled out of Durham station, before the locomotive when into a long violent 35 second wheel slip, which having been calculated at reaching 140+ MPH would go on to destroy the locomotives running gear, as well as severely injuring the driver and leaving several others in shock.

I was a founding member of the Penn State chapter of Zeta Beta Tau in 1987. I was the first Pledge Trainer. We did very little hazing and the national fraternity banned pledging altogether by 1990. The problem was that we started to allow anybody into the fraternity and the quality of members started to decline.

Digging a hole in lose material like sand is incredibly dangerous, and football pads and helmets were introduced because the sport was in danger of getting banned because of the number of serious injuries. I get that your average teenager might not be aware of that, but still 🤦‍♀️

In sports and the military too. I'd like to see coverage of those here.

Thank you sir , may I have another

Thank you.

Would you consider doing a video on the Oso mudslide in Washington, USA? It’s coming up on its tenth anniversary, and it’s cited as the deadliest single landslide event in US history aside from earthquakes, volcanoes and dam collapses so I was surprised when my friend who’s lived in the region a long time mentioned it and I’d never heard of it from any of the various disaster documentary channels I watch. Thanks much, love your channel.