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A CNC Router You CAN Run Vertically? We Put it to the Test on a 3D Carve!

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IDC Woodcraft

IDC Woodcraft

Жыл бұрын

This CNC router video explains if and when you can run your CNC router vertically rather than horizontally. In this video, we cover the Longmill MK2 CNC router and how to set it up vertically and mount it on a tilt table from Rockler.
CNC routers with screw drives can be run vertically, but it is not recommended with belt-drive CNC machines. Running your CNC router vertically, and mounting on a tilt frame also is a spacing method to keep the garage clear.
In this video, you will also learn how to recover your x, Y & Z positions after the zero was lost. Especially when carving 3d CNC router projects. The 3D carve in this video can be found in the Vectric Vcarve and Aspire design software. This is the software that is taught on this channel.
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@C-M-E
@C-M-E 4 күн бұрын
And here I was making a sarcastic joke that my next Big machine would be mounted to the wall like a Murphy bed. I hadn't thought about actually using it like that (vertical running that is), but even imagining such a thing makes so much sense. Dust boot to dust chute conversion, incoming! 👍
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 күн бұрын
C-M-E, Using vertical space can definitely open up new possibilities, and I love the creativity behind your thought process. A dust boot to dust chute conversion sounds like a fun project too!
@robertkrueger3902
@robertkrueger3902 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say THANK YOU. I always feel inspired and uplifted after watching your content. I would also like to make a public comment to anyone interested in IDC Woodcraft bits. I had a very specific question and I got a reply to my question with in 24 hours of my original question. I am retired and I run out of time in a day so quick. But not the crew at IDC they have special clocks that move differently than my clock.. I know they are a busy bunch but still take the time to read and reply to questions. Thank you ALL have a fantastic day.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Robert, you are so welcome my friend. I am so happy to hear that I was able to answer your question quickly in the past too! Anything I can do to make your CNC journey that much easier is a win win in my book!
@brandons4749
@brandons4749 Жыл бұрын
I bought a longmill 30x30 a year or two ago. I knew it was possible to install it vertically! I just finished installing it vertically and it saving me so much space. I dont like using the dust thing, so I made a shoot underneath that collects all the saw dust. Good to use for when I spill my coffee!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Brandon, right on brother! Glad to hear you converted your setup to the vertical table too.
@MattMadeIt123
@MattMadeIt123 Жыл бұрын
Just used The Hog for the first time a few days ago. I was just carving into pine, but that thing can seriously move some material. The different sound did concern me for a minute, but then I realized it's just a result of how this bit is designed and used.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Matt, glad to hear you are enjoying the HOG brother. It is a game changer bit for any project!
@ozguzzi
@ozguzzi Жыл бұрын
Be sure to make your cup holder for your beer on a swivel if you tilt the table😋 I just used the very same method yesterday on changing the x0 y0. Very good video!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Ozguzzi, good point brother. I will add the cup holder soon! LOL
@absolutemesquitecreations329
@absolutemesquitecreations329 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thankyou. I ordered your beginner bit package off of your website. Just received them yesterday. Got my bobs quantum max a week ago and have had it together a few days. I’ve only ran it to home so far. Extremely new to this and not confidante enough yet to put a bit in it and let it go. I appreciate the videos you put out and also love your salesmanship. The m&ms were a crack up. Hopefully while I’m down from a couple surgeries I will have more time to go through more of your videos. I have access to all the mesquite wood that I want and have been doing river tables for a year now. The cnc will greatly expand my products and profit. Thanks again.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Absolute Mesquite, you are so welcome my friend. Congrats on your new machine! I am excited for you to slowly build up the confidence to make more and more complex projects as time goes on. I am excited to see where your CNC journey takes you my friend.
@danneil7806
@danneil7806 Жыл бұрын
One thing I have done to mark the push button switches on the control box...... 3 strips of masking tape around the switches. Stop gets a red strip. Pause gets a yellow strip. Resume gets a green strip. That way you don't have to think or try to read the labels. You KNOW by the color which button you may want to push. Nice video. Too late for me, my table is made and my garage is all re-arranged to make more space. Could always do that later I suppose. You have proven that counter weights are not needed to take the load off the motors. Cool deal.
@alwayscensored6871
@alwayscensored6871 Жыл бұрын
Two Y motors have enough torque, those routers with one Y stepper will struggle.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Dan, good idea on the control box brother! Keep this idea as food for thought if you need more space in your shop later.
@scottmurphy1773
@scottmurphy1773 Жыл бұрын
This idea is a great resource for those of us who have limited space available for what we are passionate about. Sure appreciate your insight and detailed measurements.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Scott, it is a game changer for sure brother! We all could use some more space in our shop!
@paulbramhall9157
@paulbramhall9157 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Garrett you have given me a brilliant idea for when I update my machine. I will put it on a 15 degree plain. Thank you
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Paul, go for it brother! You will love this upgrade.
@thomasswenddal772
@thomasswenddal772 9 ай бұрын
Awesome Garrett, you are the real deal. You and the Longmill too when it comes to CNCs. Although I can only be a spectator at my age and abilities, watching over your videos still fills the sails of memories.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
ThomassWendal, glad to hear you are enjoying these videos then brother!
@KenDo_creation
@KenDo_creation Жыл бұрын
Happy to see you again. I was starting to worry. Soon I will be getting my longmill mk2 48x30. I already have your bits and app. Works well on my 3018 but I can't wait for the upgrade. From hobby part time business to a full time time business within two to three years I hope. Thanks again for everything. By the way on the IDC APP it would be nice to have metric system also. If you don't mind. :)
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
F8th01, your new machine will be an amazing upgrade. The app has metric on the bit page, you can select between metric and inch with a button right underneath the description for the bit you are on! If you dont see it, make sure your app is up to date in the app store.
@gregerixon4643
@gregerixon4643 5 ай бұрын
I absolute love your videos. Your knowledge is outstanding plus you are exceptional on how you explain everything. It’s such a pleasure watching and listening to someone with the love and excitement you have for the cnc world. We are all so lucky to have you. Thank you Garret aka professor
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 5 ай бұрын
Greg, thank you for the kind words my friend. I'm humbled! I'm glad the videos have been helpful for you so far and I'm happy to be a part of your cnc journey!
@Arizonafreehomeinfo
@Arizonafreehomeinfo 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Packed with good information. The Rockler tilt table is a game changer for me. I have one and use it to load 4x8 plywood from my truck directly onto my CNC. Your idea to use it for your CNC base is brilliant! Now I have to make a trip to Rockler to get another tilt table. That makes the Longmill a portable CNC. Roll it into a trailer and take it to a job site.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
Arizonafreehomeinfo, I couldnt agree more brother! happy CNCing.
@JackInTheShop
@JackInTheShop Жыл бұрын
Tilt the table while carving. Good way to keep the sawdust off the table.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Jack, you are so right brother! No need for a dust shoe either? We will see!
@darrensheppard3247
@darrensheppard3247 11 ай бұрын
That's great Garrett . I wanted to get the 30 x 30 Longmill , but i was really struggling for space to accomodate it . Problem solved and I'm over the moon .
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 11 ай бұрын
DarrenSheppard, I am glad to hear it brother! This setup is a big space saver for sure!
@Paprman2000
@Paprman2000 Жыл бұрын
This is a good idea. Quick and easy to get up and going.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
John, glad you liked this video brother. It sure does save space and is easy to get going once you need your machine!
@LYTOMIZE_Woodshop
@LYTOMIZE_Woodshop Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the app - it's great to have all the info at my fingertips without having to run back to my PC. Another great video, Garrett! And thanks for the Austor link. I've been looking for a set that someone might recommend. Your recommendation is the best around!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Michael, glad you are enjoying the app brother! Thanks for the feedback. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@johnmalinowski5259
@johnmalinowski5259 Жыл бұрын
.where can i buy a 5 x 10 or 4 x 8 foot longmill?
@arcwoodworking6293
@arcwoodworking6293 10 ай бұрын
Great video Garrett. I ran my Longmill vertically for a long time before burning a Y axis stepper driver. It may not have been related, but I ended up mounting it at 45 degrees. A great space saver for my tiny shop!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
Arcwoodwooking6293, right on brother! Having the machine at an angle can definitely help whe you're working in a smaller space! Happy cutting!
@TheDustyShed
@TheDustyShed Жыл бұрын
Garrett, that's a awesome tip on recovering from a power failure. This can be a life saver for those times when we are not using work offset G-codes. As I recall, you have a great video explaining those too. Anyway, thanks for the tip and take care.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
TheDustyShed, Absolutely brother! It can definitely save your projects if something goes wrong!
@gt2scale
@gt2scale Жыл бұрын
Great video! I already have the Rockler table, and I was considering using it for a CNC. However I had not considered the added benefit of running while vertical. So this video was reaffirming and inspiring!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
George, thanks I'm glad it was helpful! Definitely give the vertical cutting a shot my friend, it's awesome!
@jamesburrus8258
@jamesburrus8258 Жыл бұрын
i think you are doing a very good job with the information you are giving out
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
James, thank you brother! Glad to hear you are enjoying these videos.
@timnowland
@timnowland Жыл бұрын
I like that idea on that tilt table. I’ve been thinking about it.😊❤
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Tim, glad you like it brother!
@richardcannon2948
@richardcannon2948 5 ай бұрын
Wonderfully helpful content. Thank you
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 5 ай бұрын
Richard, you're so welcome brother! Happy cncing!
@blazegbs
@blazegbs Жыл бұрын
Nice work around for a mobile tilting table instead of coming up with a custom version. Less time engineering, more time for CNCing. Also appreciate the upgrade on the video production.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
JR you are so right on that one brother! More time CNCing is a good thing!
@wayne6318
@wayne6318 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, your video has given me so much information and given me some ideas to try out.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Wayne, right on brother! Happy cutting!
@carll4992
@carll4992 Жыл бұрын
Hi Garrett, another great video! I just wanted to comment about picking up the second tool when the stock is already missing. I’ll just grab a gauge block of any size and touch off with the first tool and record the Z value. Then I’ll put the next tool in and touch the gauge block with it, then enter the value of the first tool in the z position in gsender for the second tool. I hope I described this correctly. This may not be for everyone but it works well for me. Your method is just as good! Just thought I’d like to share. Thanks again!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Carl, that is a very good point my friend! Good tip on setting z easily.
@bluesuede69
@bluesuede69 Жыл бұрын
Great video Garret... I have downloaded the app and will play with it when i get home... Thanks again for the solid information.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Bruce, you are so welcome brother. Let me know what you think of the app!
@alwayscensored6871
@alwayscensored6871 Жыл бұрын
Nice timing, saw a few vids this week about wall mounting, tilt table makes more sense. A dust gutter will help maybe.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Always Censored, try making a setup like this for yourself. I am excited to see how it turns out!
@darrintollefson1418
@darrintollefson1418 Жыл бұрын
Very cool I've looking for something new to add to my shop and I think k I just found it Thank you.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Darrin, right on brother! Glad you liked this one!
@DarthBotzirhc
@DarthBotzirhc Жыл бұрын
I need "The Hog" in my shop. Thanx Garrett
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Ether, once you get that bit in your shop, it will be a complete game changer brother!
@cncprogrammer3265
@cncprogrammer3265 Жыл бұрын
The tilting table is interesting. I usually like to get a machine in place, get it leveled and trammed and leave it there. To me, moving it often means losing accuracy, but some guys have their machines on dolly's or moveable tables and they have to move things around for lack of space. You sort of converted your vertical router into a horizontal one, obviously resulting in a smaller footprint. There is some benefits to horizontal machining. One of then being your chips fall off your piece and don't build up around it. With a dust collector and wood, it might not be as big a benefit. The hog mill you are using looks like a fine tooth roughing end mill with TiCN coating. I've used them on hard metals like titanium and stainless alloys. They don't necessarily cut any faster or you're able to take lager cuts with them. They do cut much smoother. You get virtually no vibration like you will likely get from a more conventional end mill. I never used them on wood. Climb and conventional cuts? Well in climb cuts the cutter climbs over the material. It pushes away from the material. In conventional cuts, the tool is pushing the material and pulling itself inward. This is usually the direction of cut used with hand routers. You try to climb with a hand router, it can grab and get away from you. That cut direction can also can lead to increased tear out. Conventional cuts also require a lot more force. That could result in your piece or hold down fixture moving. A clockwise spiral cut from the outside in keeps the tool in climb cut mode, reducing cutting force and tear out. I've seen you stand on the Longmill gantry to show how rigid it is. What really impressed me though was in one of your videos, you were using a large diameter tool. I think it was a corner rounding cutter. You were taking a heavy cut at a high feed rate and buried that tool in a corner. The router motor slowed down but the gantry didn't flinch. That was impressive. When you are setting tool heights from the top of your material and a tool has cut the top of the piece, you no longer have that reference height. You can cut a block the same height of the material you are cutting. Set your tool heights off that. Or you can set your tools off your machine table, or spoil board, essentially the bottom of your piece. It's easy to do in Vectric. I use a a battery backed UPS with my router. I think I get cleaner electric, but more importantly if I have a brief power interruption, the machine keeps going. if the power goes out longer, I can stop the machine and return it to X0., Y0., Z0. With long running 3D cuts, power interruptions can get expensive. I've also taped a piece of scrap wood to my spoil board and made a spot mark at some known distance from my piece 0,0. Lets say X-3. Y-3. If i lose power and my position, I can relocate that spot and move X3. Y3. from it and I'm back at my piece 0,0. That was my fall back when I stopped a cut because it was late and I was tired. I forgot to bring the machine back to 0,0. I don't have a home position on my machine. It's an open system. Where I shut it off is where my new 0,0 is. So I kind of created one in a primitive way. Great looking project.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
CNC Programmer, all good points brother. A machine set up like this does have its drawbacks but there are also benefits too!
@deedavis5704
@deedavis5704 7 ай бұрын
Hi Garrett, brilliant idea and excellent video! Thank you! I plan to order a Longmill in the near future . But I’m really tight on space. I already have one of these carts….problem solved.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
deedavis, right on brother! Glad to hear this video cleared some things up for you. I was wondering if you could do me a favor, if you can use my link when you buy your longmill. It gives me a little pocket change. Thanks! Here's the link, if you decide to use it: sienci.com/product/longmill-mk2/?ref=IDCWOODCRAFT
@deedavis5704
@deedavis5704 7 ай бұрын
@@IDCWoodcraft Yes, absolutely!
@williamcovell6324
@williamcovell6324 Жыл бұрын
🌵 Welcome back 🙂🌵
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
William, thank you brother.
@nancej100
@nancej100 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the cool ideas 💡 always learn something.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Jim, keep learning everything you can my friend. It all pays off!
@iwannaapple7190
@iwannaapple7190 Жыл бұрын
😀 Really good video. Love the desktop. Gonna hafta start selling more stuff now so I can take my longmill off the goodwill desk that I bought so I can save some room. 😁 Thanks for making me spend my money Mr. Garret.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Iwannaapple, glad you liked this one brother. The table top setup is a game changer for sure!
@user-hl8kn7zc4u
@user-hl8kn7zc4u 8 ай бұрын
Happy Birthday Garret.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
Thanks brother.
@B.A.Bassangler
@B.A.Bassangler 10 ай бұрын
Good stuff! I'm burning out from building workbenches/stations. If there was one to buy, it'd be this one. Even for $240, it's tough to build for less. Also great tips, like cleaning collets...I'm transitioning from a contractor mindset back to engineering; it's been a while, lol.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 10 ай бұрын
B.A.Bassangler, thanks brother I'm glad it was helpful! I'm looking forward to you getting your workbench and seeing what you create! Happy cutting!
@antoniofloridia2353
@antoniofloridia2353 Жыл бұрын
Welcome back Garrett. Great video and great tips as always. I wanted to ask you on which reference did you set the zero Z of the 30° bit for engraving the writing given that the flat base of the raw material was machined? thanks and good job.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Antonio, for that cut I used the surface of the spoilboard!
@leosteger2218
@leosteger2218 Жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Leo, thanks brother. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@MyLifEcademy-sr4hy
@MyLifEcademy-sr4hy Ай бұрын
Got your app. Great material!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Ай бұрын
MyLifEcademy-sr4hy, Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. Keep creating amazing projects!
@realtytalk
@realtytalk 28 күн бұрын
I feel like it's very likely that I'm going to buy this machine in the near future. I want the larger of them for the same reason youmentioned. I don't want to outgrow my equipment too soon.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 26 күн бұрын
realtytalk, That sounds like a smart decision! Investing in a larger machine can save you from having to upgrade sooner. You'll have more flexibility and room to grow with your projects. Good luck with your decision!
@patricklynott9870
@patricklynott9870 Жыл бұрын
very nice video, good work.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Patrick, thank you brother! Glad you enjoyed it
@bmmacoh3387
@bmmacoh3387 Жыл бұрын
Another explanatory video ad usual ! When will you be running a project on the phantom CNC?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
BM, I will be soon! Glad you enjoyed this video brother.
@brandons4749
@brandons4749 Жыл бұрын
Well, as stated in a comment on this video a bit ago I stated that I installed it directly vertical on my wall! Big mistake! The X, Z axis rail goes out of whack, becomes out of level on one side, eventually came crashing down from the Y axis motors (the threaded rods on both sides came out from the clasp that connect to both motors). When I fixed it all back up and leveled it off, it went back out of level and dropped down less then an inch on one side. So, as nice as it was with a built sawdust chute underneath and all debris falling directly in and with ease of access to the whole cutting area without having to reach over and under, it doesn't stay level because of gravity and its heavier on one side then the other. The tilt table idea is best. Not directly install on a wall!! My mistake.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Brandon, that's no good brother! Sorry to hear you had so many problems with your vertical table install.
@bertalafacousl4384
@bertalafacousl4384 Жыл бұрын
Inspirational
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Bertlafacous, glad you liked this one my friend.
@LYTOMIZE_Woodshop
@LYTOMIZE_Woodshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Michael, thanks for the support brother! I appreciate it.
@brianharris3602
@brianharris3602 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Brian, you are so welcome!
@emostorm7
@emostorm7 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Doug, glad it was helpful!
@maddogtungate6740
@maddogtungate6740 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Was wondering what happen with showing more of the Phantom CNC? There are a few KZfaqrs that praise the machine but never show it action.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Maddog, I will show it off more very soon brother! It is a beast of a machine.
@billwallace1057
@billwallace1057 Жыл бұрын
Hoping to utilize this rockler tilt table
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Bill, it is a complete upgrade for sure brother! I would definitely recommend it.
@DragonArtsAcademy
@DragonArtsAcademy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Tien, you are so welcome brother!
@rbwoodwork1890
@rbwoodwork1890 Жыл бұрын
On projects that I’m machining the surface away, I use a zero point off to the side.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
R, good point brother! That is definitely the right way to go in a lot of instances.
@pnoel4936
@pnoel4936 Жыл бұрын
On the Rockler site for the table, it specifies a weight limit of 150#. If we build a table for the 48/30 LM, it suggests the table be 4/6. I'm wondering about the weight limit of a plywood, 2x4 around and 2x4 torsion on the underside then adding the LM at 48x30 and the product weight you are carving. Your thoughts?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
P, good call brother. Weight is definitely a concern but it is well within the limits. That might depend on your CNC though.
@pnoel4936
@pnoel4936 Жыл бұрын
@@IDCWoodcraft Its the LongMill 30x48
@papaduck459
@papaduck459 Жыл бұрын
That tilt table almost makes dust collection obsolete. Just keep a pan on the floor. Genius.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Paul, you are so right my friend. No need for a shop vac!
@rbwoodwork1890
@rbwoodwork1890 Жыл бұрын
Garrett, does the inline fan help with dust collection? Thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
R, it sure does brother. My vacuum tube was getting a bit too long!
@jimking9646
@jimking9646 6 ай бұрын
very nice
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 6 ай бұрын
JimKing, so glad you liked this one my friend.
@scottmurphy1773
@scottmurphy1773 Жыл бұрын
Could you plot a .25 hole on the post in your drawing to be a off work piece x-y zero reference point. Often in the cnc mill world one will have a. 25 hole in the center of fixed jaw as a location. Z zero is always the top of the material. Measured by the distance from the machine table to the top of the material. The result is a always + z distance in the dro . Is this the case in the cnc router market?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Scott, you could definitely do something like that brother. You could also use a work coordinate system in addition to this to make it easier for more projects too!
@robotsnthat
@robotsnthat Жыл бұрын
Doesn't your controller save G54 to 59.3 - work offsets? Most do, so you should be able to re-zero and restart that finishing cut without any re-offsetting. Nice pads, thanks for the find, Great video as usual. 👍
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Robots, it sure does brother. Thanks for the reminder to use them next time!
@scaryfriend1
@scaryfriend1 8 ай бұрын
Brand new to this. After all this time, would you still have done it this way? It's how i'm planning to do mine all because of your demo with putting it out of the way.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
ScaryFriend, I completely love this method brother! It still works great.
@scaryfriend1
@scaryfriend1 8 ай бұрын
@@IDCWoodcraft One other question - did you extend the front pull out on the top? Noticed Rockler's manual tells you not to keep it extended. Or was it more your comment about having the balanced pivot point? I purchased the 48x30 model which sounds like form your's it's only wider. Thanks again.
@swend8791
@swend8791 8 ай бұрын
Garrett, I am brand new to CNC. I love the book carve image in your video. How can I get it? Thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
Swend, I am sorry brother but I no longer have that file. It got lost when I changed to a new computer. Sorry I cant help in that regard my friend.
@robertmohr6617
@robertmohr6617 7 ай бұрын
Such a good video,thanks for posting this ,where did you get the book file from ,
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
robertmohr, you are so welcome brother! You can get the file from the design and make store. Here is the link: store.designandmake.com/
@stlwoodworking
@stlwoodworking Жыл бұрын
Tilting it helps with dust collection as well LOL
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
STL, very true brother! All you need is a big trough to catch all the chips!
@alwayscensored6871
@alwayscensored6871 Жыл бұрын
Just noticed the headphones, I need wireless ones because my mill controller computer doesn't have speakers, hard to watch your vids on it.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Always Censored, that is a good idea brother. My wireless headphones changed the game for me.
@johnroberts2729
@johnroberts2729 Жыл бұрын
always enjoy your videos. can you warp a bitmap image like the text on the open book carve? would like to do a silhouette image on one side and text on the other. just an idea i had.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
John, you should be able to do that no problem brother! That would be a very unique look to both sides of the book.
@johnroberts2729
@johnroberts2729 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Just need to figure out how to do it. Lol
@rwthomasify
@rwthomasify 11 ай бұрын
Would it make sense to oversize a project by an inch or so, to include an area that will not be carved and as a result always be available to reset zero in the case of a power failure?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 11 ай бұрын
Rwthomasify, that is a great idea brother!
@timnowland
@timnowland Жыл бұрын
I like that book program you’re doing where can I buy a copy of the program?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Tim, I dont have it available yet, but it could be something I release in the future. Send me an email at garrett@idcwoodcraft.com
@GelX
@GelX Жыл бұрын
Wow that's good idea, I've DIY CNC full ballscrew for all axis, can I applying this tips to my machine too? My working table is 1200mm x 2400mm 😅
@alwayscensored6871
@alwayscensored6871 Жыл бұрын
If you have two steppers on the Y you should be ok. Otherwise, cables, pulleys and counterweights will be needed.
@GelX
@GelX Жыл бұрын
@@alwayscensored6871 Indid, for Y axis I have 2 stepper Nema 34 12nm, and have double-ballnut each ballscrew. But the main problem is the wight and size of my machine, currently it's impossible to tilt more than 30 degree. (30 degree is not enough 😅)
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
GelX, you should be good to go for your machine brother if you have two Y axis stepper motors.
@rogerswanson6209
@rogerswanson6209 Жыл бұрын
How can the engraving bit follow the curve of the "Page" i.e. vary the z axis.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Roger, this would really depend on the code you're using brother! Are you looking to vary the depth of your engravings?
@waynehyatt5565
@waynehyatt5565 7 ай бұрын
Do you still use your Rockler stand for your Longmill? I'm getting ready for a new Longmill and wanted to plan a base stand for it. Any updates regarding the stand after using it for your projects?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
Wayne, it has served me well so far brother! Especially if you're working in a tight space!
@shawnpatterson3076
@shawnpatterson3076 10 ай бұрын
Hi Garret, I know it's been awhile since you made the video....I looked on the VCARVE site and was unable to find the model for the book....Would it be possible to get that from you or the place it can currently be found? Thanks so much! Shawn
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 10 ай бұрын
Shawn, I am having trouble finding it myself on their site too brother. Sorry I cant help you on this one.
@billwallace1057
@billwallace1057 Жыл бұрын
Can it be locked in at different angles.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Bill, this one can only be locked in at fully vertical and fully horizontal.
@billwallace1057
@billwallace1057 Жыл бұрын
Can't find your links for the table. Can you help me with that? I googled it but they are 300 dollars at rockler and I think you indicated about 150 dollar. Maybe I'm not looking at the correct table
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Bill, I saw your other comment. Glad to hear you found the table!
@ViNyLV
@ViNyLV 9 ай бұрын
do u think the O’skool rolling cart work too?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
Vinylv, that could definitely work brother! Just make sure it can handle the weight.
@tombouie
@tombouie 9 ай бұрын
Nice
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
TomBouie, glad you liked this one brother!
@theyardsalellc6092
@theyardsalellc6092 Жыл бұрын
Good evening my friend. Harold Mayberry here. Is that the table you danced on?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Hi Harold, that was an older table! I would have to call and ask if I could dance on this one! Haha
@stevebarnett793
@stevebarnett793 Жыл бұрын
Hey Garrett you could give me credit for the idea!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Steve, my apologies brother. Credit where credit is due my friend.
@jordbjor1
@jordbjor1 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you just permanently mount a known home location that you can just edge find to regain an accurate x&y location again. For the z you just have to know what the difference in height is between your work originally was.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Jordan, you could but I wouldn't recommend it. I recommend resetting your zeros with each project otherwise you may not have the same accuracy for your projects.
@billwallace1057
@billwallace1057 Жыл бұрын
What sort of hold down tape are you using
@alwayscensored6871
@alwayscensored6871 Жыл бұрын
That looks like two layers of blue masking tape and superglue
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Bill, always censored is 100% right, I am using the masking tape and superglue method!
@shaunparsons9610
@shaunparsons9610 Жыл бұрын
While it may work, that is going to put extra strain on the Y axix stepper motors. Decreasing their life.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Shaun, every design has its drawbacks brother. For some shop space is critical!
@britanniabaptistchurchservice
@britanniabaptistchurchservice Жыл бұрын
No dust Colleton system ?
@danneil7806
@danneil7806 Жыл бұрын
I temporarily set up a vacuum system trying to come up with the best setup for the hoses. I took it all off for now. The routers internal fan does a pretty good job of keeping the dust and chips out of the work area. For now, I want to see what the machine is doing while it is working.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Britannia, I usually have one but for this video I took it off!
@iwannaapple7190
@iwannaapple7190 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a couple of comments and I'm probably going to edit this to add more and it would be great to hear your input if you have time. Just got done with a project. gSender was done so I sent the router back to x0 y0. To my surprise it was a good 1/4" off so I had to break out that aluminum block again and of course the second cut was noooot quite the same but good enough (my x&y did not skew either)??? My project did not move! Also, how do you zero the x & y with such an odd shape bit using the aluminum block OR did you use the paper method? I doubt I will buy the longmill thingy for odd shaped bits. That costs too much for my budget. And most importantly, How do you enter an odd shaped bit into the database? Right now I am using carbide create but I imaging it is similar process in your program.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
This is a bit too complicated to anser over KZfaq brother. Send me an email with some pictures. I can help you better that way!
@billwallace1057
@billwallace1057 Жыл бұрын
Sorry Garret, I found the links
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Bill no problem brother! Glad you found the links!
@Pkillur
@Pkillur Жыл бұрын
I thought you weren't a fan of tables with wheels??
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Preston, you're right brother! You tend to lose stability when you have wheels on your table but sometimes they are the best bet in small spaces.
@billwallace1057
@billwallace1057 Жыл бұрын
No links
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Bill, no problem. I saw your other comment!
@grahamrankin4725
@grahamrankin4725 Жыл бұрын
Will ask "Santa" for a tllt table.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Graham, December is too far away brother!
@alwayscensored6871
@alwayscensored6871 Жыл бұрын
IDC, I Dance Continuously on my mill?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Always Censored, haha something like that brother!
@alwayscensored6871
@alwayscensored6871 Жыл бұрын
That's what I wanted to see, all that sawdust falling off.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Always Censored, it sure does make cleanup a breeze!
@Life_of_John
@Life_of_John 4 ай бұрын
Must be putting unnecessary strain on the motors surely?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 4 ай бұрын
LifeofJohnG, even Sienci does it brother! Here is a link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gdaVoplpsazRfWQ.htmlsi=z1mA2Z21b2QQ6gV7
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