A Constructive Take on the Warhammer 40k Price Increase

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StarHammer

StarHammer

Күн бұрын

A non-rage/clickbait view on the recent Warhammer 40k price hikes and how you can help yourself and new players deal with it.
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@qwads
@qwads 26 күн бұрын
I will let this one sink in, the new cultist leader with flamer is the same price as the box he came in originally in the Blackstone cultist squad box alongside another 8 models. Yes, GW did it's best to keep prices down. I will also like to mention... some of the Gundam kits I bought 1-2 years back, have dropped in price.
@Chunkypumpkinhead
@Chunkypumpkinhead 26 күн бұрын
I am balls deep in Warhammer and I have shirked away from paying a few extra bucks. Posting record shattering profits during a global pandemic and also raising prices 2 or three times during that period put me off so much as a consumer that I bought a used 3d printer. It cost me the same as a combat patrol from GW. Now I can not only print entire armies that are better looking and more detailed than GW models for less than $30, but I also haven't given GW a single cent in years. Independent model creators have started making better models than GW for a fraction of the price. Other game systems make better rules than GW ever did. Other companies don't have rabid anti-consumer practices. For me the question isn't "Why leave Games Workshop", it's "Why would I ever go to Games Workshop, a company that is inferior to the competition in every quantifiable way". That all being said, I still love the hobby and I love getting new models and painting and wargaming with my friends. It's pretty nice being able to offer to print a warhammer-curious friend a 1000 point army instead of asking them to spend ONE THOUSAND of their actual dollars in order to TRY a board game with me. And if that friend doesn't stick with it we can sell the models for ten times the cost of the resin it took to print them and still be 3 times cheaper than GW.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
That’s all super valid. Like I said, printing your own is a much more cost-effective solution and allows you to support an artist. Buddy of mine has his entire DG army printed (minus Morty) and it cost him a fraction of the price. I really wanna try Star Wars legions and the new halo war game coming out
@legozackproduct111
@legozackproduct111 26 күн бұрын
Bought a photon mono x2 and 1kg of resin for 179. Already printed 1,500 points of guard for either 40k 8th - 9th or one page rules for only 3/4 of the bottle. also printed 2 warhounds on a ender 3 for the cost of 40 bucks or 1.5 rolls of pla +. The hobby is quite affordable when it comes to printing armies ngl.
@geordan4951
@geordan4951 26 күн бұрын
I just bought a printer and it’s the best decision I’ve made in this hobby
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
Based and printpilled
@iain-duncan
@iain-duncan 26 күн бұрын
I havent bought models from GW itself in years anyway lmao. Company is a massive scam, overcharges massively for plastic.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
I’m still enabling the abuse 😭
@crackedhammer4612
@crackedhammer4612 25 күн бұрын
Striking Scorpions cost $75 I am not gonna spend nearly $100 for $10 a model
@mysterymystery8389
@mysterymystery8389 27 күн бұрын
Same story as you. I remember seing these models through a window glass, my eyes turned into stars and even my parents were impressed. After all the talks with the shopowner (which was awsome) they finally said the price…. In my parents eyes, they were toys and they could just buy me a figure at 10$ elsewhere 😂 Finally in my twenties and I can only start because of combat patrols, else I wouldn’t be able to and it was still expensive (161$ + taxes). I want to expand my army and the damn boxes cost the same as a 3D printer 🫠 This week, litteraly, i almost convinced someone to join WH by making her help assembling and painting these awsome models with me and like the shopowner of my youth, I had to eventually tell her the price 🤣🤣 I got bombarded and couldn’t say anything cause I agreed. In the end, again, I can only convince people to join in if I offer to 3D print armies together 😂😂 It’s a complete mess in regards of getting new people to join. I only joined because of my memories of my visit to the shop when I was young else, I wouldn’t care about it today.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
Like I said, at this point, unless I know said person has the cash to burn, I can't recommend getting into the hobby without feeling bad. I've got 3 armies and I'm happy to let folks use them. Like I say in the video, the way we get around this high barrier to entry is by lending a helping hand.
@lamMeTV
@lamMeTV 26 күн бұрын
Sure GW models are getting better but they still arent top of the line. That would go to Warlords for gun line and PP for skirmish
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
Never heard of them! I’ll check it out!
@erraticuk
@erraticuk 24 күн бұрын
In 2001 a kroot shaper was £4. it finally removed just recently at £13 to be replaced with a figure thats costs £21. 16 x kroot cost £15, today 10 kroot cost £32.50. A devilfish was £15 and the codex £10. today both are £35. Adeptus Titanicus was £25 when it first released, to buy the same number of items that were in the box would cost you over £1200 today. Look at what came in the 2019 warcry box compared to todays box and price. Its just greed, they charge what they know people will pay.
@user-gp9nb1nu8o
@user-gp9nb1nu8o 25 күн бұрын
Bought my army 15 years ago. Considered starting collecting again. Nah im goooooood.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 25 күн бұрын
Man that’s totally valid. But remember, there’s alternatives!
@user-gp9nb1nu8o
@user-gp9nb1nu8o 25 күн бұрын
@star.hammer I'll just stick with my orks, I have over 100 infantry minis I can mount into vehicles and a squigoth. That usually does the trick.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 25 күн бұрын
@@user-gp9nb1nu8o DA BESTEST BOYZ
@vaporfish9392
@vaporfish9392 23 күн бұрын
Im glad I’ve found out about buying second hand, not even because of this whole inflation fiasco Skaven army’s are just so expensive to buy in general because being a massive hoard is their whole schtick 💀
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 23 күн бұрын
I think my Necron are the closest thing to a horde army I’ve got and that’s still rough on my wallet 😓 I’ve bought most of my Necron stuff second hand and all my daemon units for my thousand sons are as well. Makes things way more affordable
@vaporfish9392
@vaporfish9392 21 күн бұрын
Great taste as usual 🍷 🗿 Say, have you ever thought about doing a vid on warhammer fantasy?
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 21 күн бұрын
@@vaporfish9392 nope, and I never will haha
@vaporfish9392
@vaporfish9392 20 күн бұрын
@@star.hammer 🥲 Oh, that’s okay *clears my gallery/shelves full of skaven nick jacks and patty wacks*
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 20 күн бұрын
@@vaporfish9392 I’m proud of you for being better 💕
@TheDuke07
@TheDuke07 26 күн бұрын
Problem with not playing warhammer is you don't know what people are going to play you can end up in a star wars region or a marvel region or a bolt gun region, etc and it's just dumb luck but warhammer is everywhere.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
We are inside your walls
@calebhebert2733
@calebhebert2733 26 күн бұрын
I'm gonna pirate a unit for each gw simp and gaslighter in the comments. (No points for a nuanced optonion.)
@calebhebert2733
@calebhebert2733 26 күн бұрын
Oh wow me, way to fuck up opinion.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
I don’t support piracy (but I’m not your mom so)
@calebhebert2733
@calebhebert2733 5 күн бұрын
@@star.hammer In mother russia, piracy supports you!
@korniestpatch
@korniestpatch 25 күн бұрын
GW price increases getting you down? Battletech is fairly non expensive
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 25 күн бұрын
Haven’t played it but I have played some Lancer, which is like this mech rpg
@korniestpatch
@korniestpatch 25 күн бұрын
@@star.hammer give it a go.
@brasssnacks8413
@brasssnacks8413 26 күн бұрын
2:50 so GW is admitting that something two decades old has less value than something recent? I'll be sure to quote them on that.
@blindjustice5695
@blindjustice5695 26 күн бұрын
I to my own dismay have a lot of separate army's most less than 500 points but I still like supporting GW and honestly this hobby being actively curated is better than leaving it alone for 10 years
@SPNKr02
@SPNKr02 26 күн бұрын
star wars did better between a new hope and episode 1 than it has since disney took over, and that was longer than a decade.
@blindjustice5695
@blindjustice5695 26 күн бұрын
@SPNKr02 I mean your opinion is valid but as an illusion mage I like a few of the new ones although Rey being a nobody was way better than being relate to a sith
@SPNKr02
@SPNKr02 26 күн бұрын
@@blindjustice5695 I'm not asking what you liked more, or what I liked more, I'm asking when was star wars more popular. Every release since Disney the fan base has shrunk.
@blindjustice5695
@blindjustice5695 26 күн бұрын
@SPNKr02 to my knowledge warhammer got big during 9th edition which was widely popular, strange that the entire game got simplified but if I wanna play 9th I can I have the books and my army they can't take that
@SPNKr02
@SPNKr02 26 күн бұрын
@@blindjustice5695 strange that Disneys star wars had little blips of growth too with Mando season 1 and rebels, strange star wars old lore exists too, yet Disney is losing money. Give it time, with a combat patrol costing what a 3d printer costs, and they are becoming cheaper and better, they will either have to adapt in some way, or thier stock will look like Disney's stock.
@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn
@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn 26 күн бұрын
lol why would anyone ever pay for GW products? They are low quality and terrible feeling. Just steal them or buy 3d prints, they are better anyway.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
*official channel stance, don’t pirate someone’s IP and stuff* Personally, I like supporting my local game shops. I got two for 40k, one for MTG, and one for dnd. Some of my stuff is printed too
@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn
@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn 26 күн бұрын
@@star.hammer Too bad. Il pirate anything i want and tell everyone to pirate as much as they can. If those shops want business they have to provide quality products, and GW doesn't make quality products.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
@@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn I mean do what you want? I’m not your fucking mom. I just personally don’t endorse it.
@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn
@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn 26 күн бұрын
@@star.hammer XD stay cringe then brah. GW wont pay you a dime.
@SPNKr02
@SPNKr02 26 күн бұрын
@@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn hes not advocating for gw, hes advocating for local shops
@johnhildenbrand2642
@johnhildenbrand2642 27 күн бұрын
What's causing GW to raise prices? Same thing as literally everyone else, stop blaming GW for trying to please stockholders, and start blaming government agencies that are having picnics at the private sectors expense...what are they supposed to do, lose money so that investors pull out? Seriously man, the global economy sucks because we behaved unbelievably irresponsibly during the pandemic, our fear as citizens made that possible, now we're paying for it
@Chunkypumpkinhead
@Chunkypumpkinhead 26 күн бұрын
What a corporate bootlicker. "Please don't blame my precious billionaires you don't understand how badly the other billionaires want all of my money!" I blame GW for trying to please stockholders. I do not care if they lose money so that investors pull out. If they fail as a company, there are far better alternatives that are already thriving, and even more would fill the vacuum. It would be what they deserve But in all reality I imagine that they wouldn't fail anyway because the government would give them a corporate bailout. But as far as your last point, I think a lot of people (myself included) are pretty clearly not paying for it.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
I mean, we can see how their doing financially. It's all public. They're doing just fine. At this rate its just corpo greed. I blame them for alienating people who might not have 50 bucks to blow on a model kit. I blame them for placing business over the consumer. Shit ass capitalism is all it is. Am I still gonna buy models? Sure. I like supporting local game shops. Again, I don't think GW can say they're trying to be "customer-focused" and then turn around and keep raising prices. GW would not be losing money had they just kept prices the same if their public filings were to be believed.
@Godonstilts
@Godonstilts 26 күн бұрын
@@star.hammer Yawn... your view is wrong, but also "Tell me you don't know about economics" without saying it. Their stock price is going down. Their 'profits' are healthy, but relatively small for a company this size and industry. Importantly, their *margin* has remained a consitent approx. 30% for years. Which is aroud the average for the board game industry (of which they belong). This is a hobby, and an optional one at best. Costs go up - they don't owe the consumer anything to keep their prices down because the world is expensive. They owe their staff an income, wage increase, bonuses and security - that is what the 3% hike comes in at. We live in a capitalist world, so if that 30% margin starts tanking, share prices follow, then job cuts and a difficult time ahead. Also you seem to completely discount macro economics and driving forces. They are a manufacturing bussiness, that sector was hit very hard during the pandemic and even harder when Ukraine hit because ENERGY costs went through the roof and there are no protections for business on that - do you know how much energy security the UK has? Spoiler - not a lot. So... people whinging "Corporate greed" about a luxury hobby, especially foreigners who don't really know about the UK, only ever come across entitled and lacking any real knowledge about how the world works. Frankly, you should be complaining about politicians who have allowed corruption to spike things that actually matter (food, houses, energy, etc) whilst failing to implement protection for people to have a decent income - NOT the price of plastic toy soldiers. Seriously, if you don't like it, just leave the hobby. Preferably quietly.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
@@Godonstilts homie I’m not gonna sit over here and complain about socioeconomic issues on a fucking 40K channel. It’s irrelevant to this conversation. Stop trying to gatekeep people who can’t afford it. You’re just being a dick at this rate to people who don’t deserve it. GW stock price is sitting pretty well rn, actually. As I said, if you actually watch the video, they gotta pay their people and fund their new factory and all that. I can see reasons for a small price increase, HOWEVER, judging by how well their gross revenue has been increasing just over the past year, I would wage not much would be impacted if they didn’t raise the prices. Cause people are gonna buy them regardless (like myself) I’m not gonna “leave the hobby” because I’m advocating for people to be able to enjoy this game and hobby that I love. If anyone should be leaving, it’s gatekeepers like you who are trying to poorshame people out of the hobby out of some misguided belief of superiority.
@Godonstilts
@Godonstilts 26 күн бұрын
@@Chunkypumpkinhead Funnily enough, every year this just grows in popularity. So actually... you are just a vocal minority. If there are 'far better companies' they would be doing far better. FUnny how that works. GW doesn't have any monopoly, they just supply the most liked products. This is a hobby. Totally optional. Nobody is holding your feet to the fire to be part of it. If you like another system or game - go and play it - but absolutely nobody cares and wants to hear you as you saunter off crying about it.
@MiniatureMasterClass
@MiniatureMasterClass 26 күн бұрын
More people online crying they are too poor to Warhammer. Time to get a new hobby. I've heard walking is free.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
Just because people can't afford official GW shit doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to get into the hobby. This is why I encourage people to buy secondhand or print their shit so they're supporting a fellow human. This hobby and game are great, and people shouldn't be barred from enjoying it because they don't want to/can't drop 40k of their own money for an army.
@MiniatureMasterClass
@MiniatureMasterClass 26 күн бұрын
@@star.hammer No one said you weren't allowed, but if people want to be in it, stop whinging online like a baby and DO THE HOBBY.
@Chunkypumpkinhead
@Chunkypumpkinhead 26 күн бұрын
@@star.hammer It's actually this type of punching down elitism that's become kind of rampant in the hobby, especially online. "CAN'T AFFORD IT THEN GET OUT WHINER." Wow. It really has become a bunch of millionaires just putting 'the poors' on blast. Over Warhammer. Like, people who drive BMWs do this.
@star.hammer
@star.hammer 26 күн бұрын
@@Chunkypumpkinhead stealing that comparison for my next video about gate keeping
@Chunkypumpkinhead
@Chunkypumpkinhead 25 күн бұрын
@@star.hammer Oh god please do
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