A CONSUMER REVIEW - Bretonnian Knights of the Realm on Foot

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PAWNS & SWORDS

PAWNS & SWORDS

Күн бұрын

Warhammer The Old Worlds Kingdom of Bretonnia Knights of the Realm on Foot consumer REVIEW - are the new Warhammer miniatures any good?
I bought, assembled, reviewed and compared a set of Bretonnian Knights on Foot and some of the other knights on foot:
- "Frostgrave Knights" by North Star Military Figures,
- “Foot knights 1450-1500” by Perry Miniatures,
- “Foot Knights XI-XIII century” by Fireforge Games.
I also compared the scale of these miniatures to Bretonnian Men-at-arms, Bowmen, classic Skaven clanrat, Orc Boy and some other clasic miniatures.
00:00 Intro
02:10 Review of the Bretonnian Knights on Foot
11:30 Comparison to Frostgrave Knights by Northstar Military Figures
15:04 Comparison to Foot knights 1450-1500 by Perry Miniatures
17:03 Comparison to Foot Knights XI-XIII century by Fireforge Games
18:57 Scale comparison of the knights
20:33 Scale comparison of the knights and other miniatures
23:16 Transfers rant
23:48 Summary
A bit deeper analysis of design, complexity, instructions clarity, transfers and sprues. If You like what You see - subscribe, like, share and comment! :)

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@NoiselessShadow
@NoiselessShadow 15 күн бұрын
The earliest Citadel miniatures were 25mm (foot to eye). They look diminutive next the later 28mm models which would be standard for many years. GW switched to 32mm a few years ago, perhaps on the theory that bigger toys seller better and plastic is very cheap as a production material the cost is not a concern. Though of slender proportion, the Perry miniatures are 30mm; this might have been a good choice as the jump to 32mm is quite noticeable.
@oldorcsneverdie4854
@oldorcsneverdie4854 17 күн бұрын
Thank you for the review. I'm tempted to get some Frost Grave Knights and try placing my old left over Knights of the Realms heads on them.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 17 күн бұрын
I was actually thinking the same thing :) And thank You for Your kind words :)
@tankbwoy
@tankbwoy 18 сағат бұрын
best way to do rank and file modles (imo) is torso with or without seperate legs, arms with weapon options, head. All interchangeable and posable of course. GWs way is nice for display painters i think, but then again, why would you want 20 of em.
@JP-dv7rf
@JP-dv7rf Күн бұрын
Very helpful video, thank you for all of the information provided here.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS Күн бұрын
Thank You, I am happy that it was of any use for You :)
@dd11111
@dd11111 6 күн бұрын
While I don't think that there are really that many peices per model, I HATE GW's new style of splitting models down the center or splitting arms in two. It makes kitbashing so much more dificult. I understand that the trade off can be more detailed minis, but thats not always a good thing.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 6 күн бұрын
Exactly! I forgot to mention it, but this is part of the problem for me. I guess it's not even the number of parts, it's how they are split - so You are right!
@pacofores
@pacofores 17 күн бұрын
I don't like the new scale for GW miniatures, sorry. I prefer 28mm, even "heroic", but not this 32mm or even larger :(
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 16 күн бұрын
Yes, they are a bit larger than classic GW miniatures. I don't understand where the size creep comes from but it seems a consistent trend. Thanks for watching!
@sam74mumm
@sam74mumm 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the helpful review. The frostgrave knights seem to offer the best cost-performance ratio(for my army Perry miniatures are a bit too skinny and non-bretonian in contrast to my highland and older GW ones). Hope you´ll upload a 9th age battle with these miniatures one day.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS Күн бұрын
Thank You for watching, yes indeed, Frostgrave miniatures are really cool for their cost-performance ratio :)
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 10 күн бұрын
Good video displaying the scale differences between alternative miniatures. While I don't agree with your assessment of the GW miniatures, it can be useful to those looking to save some cash on minis. I do agree with your assessment of the transfers, however. To me, I don't think they hold any value but if they are going to be there, the sheet should have a strong variety available.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 10 күн бұрын
Thank You for watching :) I think that with the quality GW is doing, it just could have been so much better. They are not bad though, just annoying to assemble.
@balkenkreuz2063
@balkenkreuz2063 8 күн бұрын
Those new knights on foot miniatures look more akin to Reiksgard than anything Bretonnia has in their roster. IMHO, Perry Miniatures and Wargames Atlantic make knights on foot that fit better the Brets aesthetic (not to mention more affordable kits as well).
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 8 күн бұрын
I personally think the aesthetics are fine, I would like more variety and easier build though 🙂
@TheSupporter76
@TheSupporter76 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the I'm depth comparison, as nice as they are, I think I'm might be looking at using other foot knights, maybe wargames atlantic ones since they're releasing their own.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 16 күн бұрын
Thank You for watching, please keep coming back for more content :) I can't wait for Wargames Atlantic ones, I love their miniatures.
@Griffonbait
@Griffonbait 8 күн бұрын
You seen primarily concerned with height. Remember that, in reality, not everyone was/is the same height. A +/-1-3 mm difference in height @28 mm scale, i.e. 1:56 scale, for example, would mean a real-world difference of +/- 56 mm to 168 mm (i.e. roughly 2-6 inches). That is hardly anything to be concerned about given the nature of human height. It would be good to see knightly units with men of varying height. The real concern is the height to thickness ratio of the minis - this determines the squatness of the figures (short & fat vs. tall & lanky). I am tall and fat, so personally I would look out of place on your gaming board, and in flesh-overflowing armour. I must qualify that statement by saying that I am referring to a plastic miniature version of myself.😁 Great video - the first I have seen of yours. I suggest using a simple scale measuring device on a table/wall with the minis in front of it, taking the video directly above/facing said table/wall. I can see you struggling to align the minis in the take. It doesn't mean I do not like your video, just some advice on sprucing up your production. Plan what you are going to do and ask yourself if there will be any issues when presented in your planned method. +1 Subscribers In the long term for this channel, please be careful and not fall into the trap of bashing (hating on) companies for their choices, you will inevitably alienate some viewers, as can already be seen in the comments section (yeah, I am a comment reader). For example, if you generally only bash GW for their products and mostly praise other companies, you are going to cut _a_ _lot_ of viewers from subscribing in the future. But hey, you do you. I am personally an eclectic viewer, taking both the good and the bad in its various forms, taking in the relevant information and ignoring the clearly biased views. Not that I am saying I am seeing that in your presentation right now, it takes time for presenters to reveal themselves fully. Good luck with the channel. I look forward to seeing more from you.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 8 күн бұрын
Thank You very much for thorough response :) I agree on the height/squatness issue. I mentioned in the video that I am generally a fan of GW - for years. I just personally think this set could have been much better :)
@istvanvarady2757
@istvanvarady2757 19 күн бұрын
thanks for this very nice comparison. just getting back into warhammer the old world myself and the scale comparison was extremely useful. between the overcomplicated assembly and weird scale these knights look pretty mediocre. these bretonnians will look crowded even on 25mm bases. for GW prices they should be premium quality and presentation and they are not.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 19 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and good word :) I think they are fine on original bases, I can't complain about how they fit 20mm bases as it was my own choice. GW makes such beautiful models these days that in comparison these are just OK indeed. As mentioned in the video, I wish they were simpler to assemble and had more weapon options. On the other hand, they still will look cool on the battlefield as a unit. It's just that for GW standards, they could be so much more.
@Tulkash01
@Tulkash01 14 күн бұрын
7 pieces is not particularly complex in my opinion. Hammerers, which are pretty easy to assemble is 8 pieces each.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 14 күн бұрын
That's an interesting point. Maybe it depends on the parts involved - in case of KotR these parts are just tiny. I don't own a Hammerer set so it's hard for me to compare. Still, I am not a huge fan of this trend and I don't understand it. GW makes STUNNING minis in push-fit line (Underworlds miniatures are AMAZING), so why not use this for more sets? I understand bigger models but playing scale modelling with pieces as big as half of my pinky nail? That's a bit annoying :)
@GloriousGrunt
@GloriousGrunt 13 күн бұрын
I still think its excessive when compared to older kits or kits from other companies, you can make great quality minis without wasting 10x of your customers time in assembly, maybe they want the extra super glue sales 😆
@goldcase9071
@goldcase9071 9 күн бұрын
This is true but with hammerers putting the pieces together was easy same with ironbreakers. The issue comes when have to combine tons of tiny pieces.
@nealbarton7434
@nealbarton7434 14 күн бұрын
Good review - GW are a miniatures company and this shows. For gaming figures, your alternatives are great example. I’d also add in Mantic Games though they make limited human figures to compare too
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 14 күн бұрын
Yes, modern Mantic minis are great quality, I just didn't have any suitable Mantic knights.
@martinjrgensen8234
@martinjrgensen8234 14 күн бұрын
Too many pieces? Eh
@Truebotsman
@Truebotsman 6 күн бұрын
I want to buy into TOW. but I also do not want to buy into TOW. And from a GW hobby, these knights are absolute win for me. but? seems too High Def to really be game pieces. as a display the immerision breaks. so it's a good looking set I want to do a army of Imperial/Inquisitorial guard, but at the same time... too much work.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 5 күн бұрын
I always encourage returning to hobby :)
@HO-bndk
@HO-bndk 6 күн бұрын
It's laughable that the GW knights are wearing ridiculous looking jousting helms and many of them hold their swords in ways that the medieval fight books expressly tell you not to. 😂
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 6 күн бұрын
That's a good point, I actually missed that :)
@GloriousGrunt
@GloriousGrunt 13 күн бұрын
The axes look ridiculously large 😆
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 13 күн бұрын
Yes, they do :) Such an axe would weight 15kg. They are not ogres for heavens sake! ;)
@grahamroden8897
@grahamroden8897 14 күн бұрын
GW doesn’t think of casual gamers
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 14 күн бұрын
That's one of my points. I can do this no problem, I will just be a bit more annoyed than usual :) But if they want to sell these to people who just begin their hobby journey - that's not a great idea.
@princeofcupspoc9073
@princeofcupspoc9073 16 күн бұрын
So GW have given up on selling anything useful for miniatures battles, and just wants to be Hasbro selling toys to kids for Christmas? That's what I get from this.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 16 күн бұрын
I actually like Hasbro, they do a lot of useful tabletop gaming stuff :) These models are nothing like Hasbro, they are really advanced models in kinda scale modelling vein.
@danielbrisch5029
@danielbrisch5029 13 күн бұрын
The size of the Knights is horrible. Don´t get why these were not sized down for the Old World to fit the older plastics.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 13 күн бұрын
My guess is they got used to do everything in larger scale.
@PaulJohn01
@PaulJohn01 9 күн бұрын
I play a lot of Warhammer on PC but i would never support GW directly by buying their figures. If i ever get back into tabletop wargaming i'll buy used or from other manufacturers of minis.
@bryanvestal3923
@bryanvestal3923 17 күн бұрын
Glad I didn't pick these up now. 80 bucks is to much to pay to be frustrated.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 17 күн бұрын
Don't get me wrong, miniatures are good quality. However, putting them together is really a bit disheartening. At least it was for me.
@tamethisbeast
@tamethisbeast 17 күн бұрын
One major issue with how they stack up on the bases is that you put them on 20 mm by 20 mm bases where games workshop has moved towards a 25x25 mm base standard for all foot infantry that are non-monsterous
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 17 күн бұрын
@@tamethisbeast Please note that I haven't complained about how they stack up on the bases - and this is exactly the reason. I am pretty sure they stack up on 25x25 very well. Even on 20x20 it's doable. So this is not a concern. They are just very annoying to assemble.
@justinbarnes8834
@justinbarnes8834 14 күн бұрын
This all depends on if you want to enter an 'official' GW tourney as you will need all your mini's to be GW sourced, Note you can substitute in AOS and LOTR mini's although LOTR is smaller 28mm true scale and might look a bit small next to the 32mm scale WHTOW are made in. However if you're not worried about having a full GW army then some of the 3d printed models by Highland miniatures can be an excellent fit. Just make sure you order 32mm size as the 28mm scale will look a bit small.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 14 күн бұрын
@@justinbarnes8834 That's an excellent point. Some 3d printed minis are amazing. I am just not a huge fan of resin, because it's very brittle, so spears, lances and swords will get broken a lot.
@turulero
@turulero 11 күн бұрын
The sculpting is clean and elegant as always, but the size of those models and their aesthetics seem horrible to me... Especially their aesthetics... There are helmets that look like toys and the choice of designed parts seems very poor to me. They only impose those who like very big things and that's it, but for me they are the worst Bretonnians I have ever seen.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 11 күн бұрын
That's a valid point.
@MaTTabletop
@MaTTabletop 14 күн бұрын
09:52 - I think the bitter truth is that the hole TOW project is not meant to bring new people into the hobby in any way. its a limited offer to veterans of WHFB, who are a small group with great purchasing power. anyway, nice review!
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 13 күн бұрын
Thank You! I am super happy that I can share my love for the hobby! :) I really wish GW treated The Old World seriously, it has SO MUCH POTENTIAL!
@hughmyers8583
@hughmyers8583 14 күн бұрын
Dude those are incredibly easy to build. I could have built that whole box in the runtime of this video. These are beginner level models and if you can't deal with these then this hobby is not for you.
@PAWNSANDSWORDS
@PAWNSANDSWORDS 14 күн бұрын
I respectfully disagree ;) It's not even about how hard it is to build them (yes, they are not very hard to assemble), it's about how time consuming it is. I've been doing this for a long time and I simply don't like this level of complexity for such basic models (infantry unit). Come on, 3 part head for a 28mm infantry model?
@GloriousGrunt
@GloriousGrunt 13 күн бұрын
GW sell "Easy Build" models that are the beginner level models, some don't even require glue and their older kits like tactical marines are way fewer pieces and quicker to build. This is a much more complex kit with many more pieces per model (unnecessarily so).
@idiotproofdalek
@idiotproofdalek 8 күн бұрын
Wow, as a hobbyist of 30 years, this video comes across as entitled whining.
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