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When a seller won't negotiate and then says someone else is coming to look at it,,,,🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃as fast as you can.

It's got brand new tyres on it because the old ones would have shown you exactly how long it had been standing...

The moral of the story is if you're going to be flying your family at 200mph at 20,000 fleet don't look for a bargain

I am starting to get concerned about Jimmy. 17 hour drive and he didn't bring a real flashlight or any basic tools.

Jimmy, my dad has 5 kids and a wife. He owned an Aztec but felt he needed something larger. So, he landed a deal on a C-421. After owning it for four years, he calculated it cost $975.00 an hour to operate. My dad stated, he could have CHARTERED a LEAR JET for less. In the 1980s.

As the saying goes "there's no such thing as a good deal in aviation"

I have bought 8 airplanes, but have looked at dozens (in an attempt to buy). It’s just infuriating how often people will misrepresent the aircraft they are selling. It doesn’t matter that you have to travel hundreds of miles at great expense. They always act surprised when you find out what a hunk of junk they have.

I drove 24 hours to purchase a 36' boat. Upon arrival I discovered everything, and I mean EVERYTHING was not as advertised. The seller thought I was attempting to negotiate. I said no, there's not a chance in Hades this is coming home with me and honestly it should not ever be placed on the water again.

They could give it to you with a bag full of money in it and it still wouldn’t be a deal! Run Jimmy Run!

Can you imagine attempting a restart in-flight! That thing looks like a future episode for Broncolirio

I'm not a pilot nor an A&P, but allow me to channel Monty Python and say... "run away! run away!" Seems to be a fairly common practice to prime radial engines until fuel starts to flow out onto the ground, don't remember seeing that technique with other engines. After the de-gloving talk, Silas will never again wear a watch. But yeah, something like a watch or bracelet can de-glove a hand.

That old fella was like Sargent Shultz from Hogans Hero’s I know nothing about lol. I wouldn’t but a lawnmower from that guy.

you need a gauge that tells you how much gas is on the ground

The ABS altitude is a radar altimeter! The first clue is the DH light. You set the Radar Altimeter to the DH of the approach and that light goes on and a tone is generated in your headset when you reach DH.

That seller is out of his mind. After just reading the logs you could have called it good and just turned the trip into a better family outing

You got a lot of fuel over here…”yeah, that’s normal” - GULP

I mean I know the project is expensive but damn that guy goes into detail and I love building plane videos from the scratch .

Your wife is a very understanding person. I hope that you still have enough credit remaining with her to make the 17 hour return trip.

The death null on this deal for me is this… you want to sell it on at some point in the future. You already have a motor that’s nearly timed out, Which assuming it’s actually ok will make it hard to sell in the future, when it’s even closer to timed out if not fully timed out. Someone, somewhere, sometime is going to be on the hook for that 100+g engine. Ain’t no getting away from that, and until that pill gets swallowed the value of the plane will be adversely effected

After instructing in all the twin Cessnas, I always recommend starting the left engine first. That is because the battery cable to the left starter is very short! Yes, they are persnickity to start, but each of the GTSIO engines has its own mind. VG kit is good for takeoffs, but don't add the extra weight. That way you will have better engine out controllability on takeoff. This is equipped with boots and hot props, but NOT certified for flight into known icing. The spoiler STC is always a nice addition to the CE-421.

Oh yea, the old “I’ve got a couple more guys looking at it” line. Play hardball, Jimmy. It’s worth 75, no more. Tell him, “no worries, I’ll let the couple more guys buy it” and walk away. Call his bluff.

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. You can't do a proper inspection with a cell phone flashlight app! You're a pilot. You should ALWAYS carry a good rechargeable pocket flashlight, and on inspection trips like this, a telescoping inspection mirror.

You are complaining about how expensive this plane is with all that money you pissed away on that Elvis camper

Jimmy, what you're missing is that you're trying to get an aircraft airworthy that if it were manufactured today would cost well over 1.8 million. The only other similar Piston Twin aircraft in production today are the Beechcraft Baron and Technam 2012. The Technam 2012 which is the only cabin class Piston Twin in production is $2.5 million. The maintenance costs for the Baron and the Technam are calculated based on the costs of manufacture. The 421 is a big complex aircraft just like the Baron and Technam, which by the way neither are pressurized. The market for Twin Cessna's is very small due to the maintenance costs and availability of parts. You cannot look to recover the costs of what it will take to get this 421B airworthy. Doesn't happen that way. Remember this is a 51 year old aircraft that has been sitting for some time with deferred maintenance. . There is currently a KZfaq video of an owner that put in $250,000 of Garmin upgrades into his 414A. There is no way he will ever recover those costs when he goes to sell. The value of the 421B you are looking at is based on core value if you were to sell it for salvage. In my estimate the $100,000 price the owner is looking for is pretty close to core value if you were to part it out. Additionally the cost of TurboProp Single Engine aircraft is less than a Technam 2012 so potential buyers are more likely to purchase a Turboprop with higher reliability PT6's and better performance which are easily maintained by service centers all over the world. Piston Twins are a dying breed with the exception of smaller ones used for ME training. If you're going to buy a cabin class piston twin you're going to have to realize that you're not going to make money reselling it and those of us that still have them keep them because we love them....

Before going to OCS in the Army and being commissioned in the Field Artillery, I was a aircraft electrician. As a rotary wing mechanic, we had the one guy I went to school with who managed to set off both squib bottles (fire suppression) on a UH-60 Blackhawk. Another graduate of Ft. Eustis in my class was asked to never turn wrenches on an aircraft again and was re-assigned as a unit clerk. Oh to be young again and enjoy the follies of youth and the misfortunes of others.

On further reflection, I have come to believe that anyone who owns a plane is considered to be filthy rich by anybody else in the world, especially those who SERVICE those planes. The prices you mention for parts and labor are insane unless you are filthy rich. Not just rich, but...filthy rich. And, the built in laws that require expensive "Annuals" and "AD's" just keep the liquid gold flowing in the fuel lines. Kinda like the hearing aid world where I come from. Of course, the devices are much smaller, but the process is much the same. $5 grand for a small device that is still simply a receiver and an amplifier.

I’m with ya. That fuel running out of there is scary.

It’s interesting seeing the owners keeping their mouth shut knowing all the problems it has as they watch and see if you figure it out. Like dad used to say “people are funny”.

Maybe the misplaced nut is one off a 737 max plug door?

Should have used a flooded start once the fuel started pouring out. Open the throttle, close the mixture, reverse when it fires.

I have a relative that has a 340 for sale for 125k. Meticulously maintained for charter use. Really nice plane. He replaced the engines or engine within the last couple years

"if it's too good to be true, it probably is!"

The classic line.. "I gotta couple of more guys coming to look at it"

There was a movie that came out in '94 that starred Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels that Jimmy needs to view. For 125K, there are a lot of RV's (especially in Fla) that would fully meet his needs.And Jimmy might even tow Elvis's discards.

Learned the $hard$ way on restoring my 1966 Austin Healey 3000 BJ 8. A fool and his gold are soon parted. Shoulda been suspicious when the odometer only showed 30K miles but it was sitting in a field with a tree growing up through the rotted out rag top and holes in the floor boards!! Ha Ha! Who was it that sang...."Gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em.....??" Good luck, Jimmy!!

Hey Jimmy...SO what happened in the end? Will there be a part 2 to this airplane? Just asking. Thank you for taking us with you on these many adventures.

at 44:38 I was thinking "walk away now"!

Could be both engines. Just sitting around that long is arguably worse than a high time engine run regularly.

Jimmy, look up the N421KC report, if you can’t get engine started in 6-7 blades, by continuing to try to start the GTSO, you will destroy the starter drive, that’s what happened to this aircraft, the guy who bought it from Fla for $110K could not understand how to start and operate a cabin class twin, it was a sad story, but luckily they walked away from death that day, actually flew this airplane once, and warned the owner to never fly it again until he replaces the engines, and get some emergency training. He had never flown in a pressurized airplane before, I have a far amount of time in all 421s , they are wonderful airplanes and require constant feeding to properly and safely,Maintain and operate., great videos

You got Circle K all over Canada as well.... Im not an aviation or airframe mechanic but my truck mechanic side says fuel pouring out is not normal....

My take on this so called “deal” is RUN… the seller is desperate and isn’t being straight with you. Never buy anything with metal in the filter unless you plan on rebuilding or replacing the engine.

*Oh boy,* here we go again... What could possibly go wrong 😂😂😂

I say, "Walk, Walk, Walk away from this bad day and don't look back, Jack!" For what that 421 will end up costing you to get airworthy and keep it that way, you could buy a lot of airlines tickets for you and your wife--FIRST CLASS, and coach for the kids and still have enough cash to put fuel in the Lancair or 310. I will say, however, that the 421 travels and travails would make for some great video content. So, there is that to consider. I love t!he Jimmys World. You make me laugh and miss those GA days that were such an important part of my early aviation career. God bless you and your sweet family, Jimmy

Time to put your track shoes on Jimmy--lace them up real tight !!!

This video should be titled "how to not start a GTSIO-520". Pretty well know and established procedures for starting them, and waiting for fuel to pore out is not one of them...

Im a cabin class twin Cessna insurance instructor. 421B the B is for best right?!?! 😂 In all seriousness that bird is a unique beast. Besides the obvious GTSIO engine items… you’d want to inspect the trunions, probably have your brake master cylinders overhauled, nose gear linkage, trim rod, door seals, and windows. I would switch to Michelin tires and keep 10 pounds more in the mains than the book says (85psi). I personally think the 340 is the best of them all. Everyone always want a 414A because it has the cabin of a 421 and a 4ft longer “wet” wing. The 340 has a smaller cabin but the same engines as 414 and same fuel system as the bird your looking at in this video. The way I describe to my students is 421 is a millionaires plane, 414 is a passengers plane, and 340 is a pilots plane. If you can squeeze the friends and family in the smaller 340 cabin you’ll appreciate the performance of that plane.

There's always "other guys" coming to look at it..

I was hoping we'd get to see Jimmy flying on this episode.... guess we'll just have to wait until you find the right plane.

Now I’m no Air plane pilot or aircraft mechanic but this deal looks like someone trying to sell you a polished turd Jimmy. I deal in new and used Appliances and this is exactly what I dealt with before just on a smaller scale, the owner needs to come way off on his price and the only person I would even see getting any value out of that plane is someone who has one already that has structural damage and a ton of good parts to swap. Thanks for another great video and I forgot to hit up your gas pump on my way thru Macon at Buckees but will do so later on this year!

My first thought about the oil shavings in the filter was, “Looks like somebody’s been backlashing this propeller gears.” The boss used to beat it in our heads to plan way ahead for descents in the 421. Always do a long, cruise descent.

Hmm why am I dizzy…I’m pulled to my recliner…my eyes focus on the screen…,YES…it’s Jimmy’s World!

Jimmy, you need a better flashlight. I generally don't like chineseum tools, but if you go to horror freight and get "BRAUN 500 Lumen LED Rechargeable Magnetic Handheld Foldable Slim Bar Work Light" you'll be pleasantly surprised with how handy that little bugger can be. (edit:) And you can look at the cost of the road trip as a few thousand bucks to save a couple hundred grand. :)

Hi Jimmy and family ....you guys are awesome....we always watch and learn so much from you Jimmy may peace be upon you 😊

The seller should grab the money at 75k and be darn happy to get it because 75k for that thing is still a high offer.

You can wrap some electrical tape around the screwdriver bit or even use a paper towel to keep it inside the socket.

Did you ever think about looking up the POH online quickly and figuring out the real starting procedure?

Biting my tongue! Wanting to yell STOP ! .... FLOODING THIS!! PUDDLES NOT GOOD!!! DANG!😆

“Man I am glad I am not that guy” 😂 love it lol. Nothing wrong with a little friendly ribbing 🙂

This will show on my daughters account but was watching this and i worked on all models of Cessnas, 100, 200, 300, 400 and really liked tge 414 and 421 but, those geared engines are great for high altitude and stuff but, if your really determined to get a cabin job a 414 or 340 might be a better fit. One more thing is, of all the time i worked on them i only knew of two people that used them for their personal airplane because of the high cost to maintain so, i cant imagine what it costs now. Airplane parts are expensive which im sure you know. That plane needs a BUNCH of TLC that it hasn't had. Walk away.........

Make sure that you check the pressurization. Best way is to see how high that you can get before the cabin altitude hits 10,000 ft.

I am pretty dang sure that the starting method used by the seller is not only incorrect, but freaking dangerous. My twin was full rich, throttle closed, boost pump on and crack throttle, boost pump off and start. I am happy you did not become a bad imitation of Richard Pryor.

You made the right decsion to walk away from that bird. The fuel leaks are a big concern. Remember the 421 has bladders, BIG $$$ The panel for the most part is very dated and needs upgrading. The other squawks you mentioned are big $$. Plus you hadn't even had a mechanic do a prepurchase on it. If they gave that airplane to you, you could easily invert more money then what it's maket value is, just to bring it up to something safe you'd want to fly your family in. I have considerable time in 421's, and they do a nice job, but you better have some deep pockets to stay on top of the maintenance. If you want a cabin class twin, I'd be looking at Cessna 340's. Much less to operate and maintain then a 421.

Remember who you intended passengers will be. Maybe safer is better than a "good" deal

I never start them in full rich. Once I have it primed, I crank until I get it to start then throw the mixture lever forward.

Save your time and money. Keep saving the 310.

41:12 to 41:53 Ratchet twirling, That's the deal breaker right there!

Jimmy, I took some FOD in the right engine on our Citation Ultra. Estimate right now is north of $800,000. Everything is relative

Hey Jimmy , I stopped at timestamp 34:36, and thought, “Walk Away, walk away”. I’m not an A/P and i see too many bad things!!! Love the channel.

Band by the name of REHAB has a song called “just walk away” Sadly so many just like this one scattered across the country.

The trick to starting those engines is at the first little pop, hit the boost pump. Ask anybody who operates one.

nice UK wildcats hat!

The LAST flight found in FlightAware for N845YC From: LEXINGTON, NC TUESDAY 16-APR-2019 04:46PM EDT To: GREENEVILLE, TN TUESDAY 16-APR-2019 05:33PM EDT

Many years ago I was flying a corp. pressurized Baron...parked next to me in the hanger was a Corp. 421 golden eagle. Went around the patch with him a couple of times....nice bird....Those TGIO 520s can be fairly quiet..at a cost. My friend had one engine failure on TO....NO problem saving the bird.....but the engines at the time, to overhall ,was extreme!!! I love CessnasI got my multi in a beautiful 310 Q model years ago.

Glitter in ANY oil pan is NOT a good sign!!!~

Run Jimmy RUn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im with you on that decision. Its got a lot going for it since its been stored in a hangar. But offer the 75K and see where that goes. If he has others coming to look at it he might come around to your offer if they all pass on it. Other than that. Know when to walk. Its easy to get caught up in the excitement and make an impulse purchase. Loved this video.

32:30 looks like the boost pump from my Cirrus the other week. Replacement for my little pump is $1500. ended up being bad seals inside it. Morristown is a nice airport, very close to me. My Io-360 ES replacement from AirPower was $76,000 including the installation. I love a 421 but I would pass on that hangar queen.

I did one of these - well worth it - but you end up at $750,000. There’s no way around it. It’s your family your flying.

Once you "prime" the engine you keep the mixture all the way off. Once it fires your increase the mixture. They are flooding it out big time. Once flooded, full throttle and mixture idea cutoff. When it starts throttle to idle and increase the mixture. At least that's the way it works on my TSIO-520-WBs.

I don't have a preflight bag, but I do have a wing locker that I put everything in I need for a preflight. Does that count?

Your Nav/Com 1 connects to the Sandel Electronic HSI.

The FAA Registry says that N645YC is Deregistered

I work on 402Cs a lot, I know different engine and non pressurized, but a lot of what I saw concerns me... Unless he lowers his asking price your better off walking from this one.

Good lord, it's obviously flooded! Don't go full rich! Youshould go more lean, and open throttle full open to add more air to compensate for the flooded engine, then turn over with wide open throttle. Should start fine.

I'm surprised you didn't have Stop Oil protesters surrounding that thing! At my airport, we aren't even supposed to pour out the fuel samples on the tarmac. They'd have a freaking cow seeing that engine pissing out all that fuel onto the ground! $103k for an engine? I don't feel so bad about dropping $3500 on a new engine for my Suburban yesterday!

Awesome video Jimmy thank you my mother just recently discovered Buc-ee's for the first time last night in Alabama make me super jealous cuz I really want to go to one but I'm all the way in Maine and we don't have them up here. Oh boy on that airplane I'd run while you still have a chance

Love Buckees. Time to head south with the polar vortex coming single digits up north..... save the 3 1 0.

Didn't know you were up here at KMOR, Jimmy. That's right up the road from me.

Learning loads from you Jimmy, getting ready to splurge!

I could barely afford to maintain my Chevy Vega, which I purchased after I gave up on my Ford Pinto because of occasional explosion issues. So I'm convinced that those who buy and maintain airplanes are crazy people. No offense, of course, Jimmy. 😁

Jimmy, You can’t use “smart” and “kids in a mini van for 17 hours” in the same sentence!

Awesome episode. Thanks for the great content.

Jimmy - I restored one of these. Boots recondition $2,000. Annuals - $50,000 be realistic. It’s your family you’re flying around. I operated a C model for nearly 20 years. 😊👍🙏.

Run don't walk!!!! Death trap

Hitting your head at the end is more like a slap to wake you up and question your wanting this airplane. Lol. I'd say if they do manage to get the other engine started then 75000 would be a high number of the offer but realistically be prepared for it being a parts plane at 50000. Not an expert here just thinking out loud. Good luck!

C 421 & 340... I have flown ...what worked the best is almost flood the engine, you will see some fuel on the ground under the engine draining... then lean it.... starter on till it starts then slowy add mixture...also flying it plan your desent so you slowy take power out ,since they are very sensitive if not mistaken is 1 inch every minute ...very nice machine to fly ...

Love it.. ✌🏼 need it✌🏼 “no one needs it, I want it” 😂😂😂

your wife is amazing to keep such a positive attitude. I would love to more about how you fund this adventure.