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“You wouldn’t last an hour in the asylum where they raised me.”

I will never recover from the fact that the fandom took a total of about 3 sentences of jks work and created an entire new fandom where everyone is gay

“He’s headcannoned as queer, sometimes trans, sometimes Japanese” and “he smokes, he loves David Bowie, he’s dyslexic” respectively took me out in fact

You forgot to mention that the 'og' fancast (ATJ, Ben Barnes, Andrew Garfield, Sophie Skelton, Dane Dehaan, etc) have openly expressed their love and admiration for the marauders MULTIPLE times. Who told them about this fandom? Where did they get this information? Why are they so famous for a movie they haven't even played in? So many questions, no answers. The dedication this fandom has is honestly incredible.

The fact that the Harry Potter fandom created an entire new fandom based on extremely minor characters is god tier. The writer of All The Young Dudes probably feels like a king right now. I would deadass love an entire recap video on All The Young Dudes lmao

"he's shipped with an early grave" is amazing 😂

sirius black sending severus snape to the shrieking shack while remus is transforming is just like rachel berry sending sunshine corazon to a crack house for her glee club audition

“Either Lily or Regulus” bbgirl keep up with the times the girlies have invented Jegulily.

can’t wait to hear you talk about gay dead wizards for an hour

as a marauders fan, who deeply uses them as a way of escapism, this video is hilarious i can’t. the struggle of explaining it all to people is CRAZYY. like how am i supposed to explain that characters mentioned in a single sentence were then put into a fanfiction with the setting of the hunger games AND IT HAS MORE WORDS THAN THE BIBLE?? fucking help.

"babe if you're killing one baby, what's another baby??" i had to PAUSE

"I'm broken, what if himbo jock saves me" - heartstopper in a nutshell.

'overpromise, under deliver' should be every politician's slogan

The Marauders universe just shows how strongly we need dark academia in our lives.

“you kiss your mother with those anti-Wolfstar lips” I LOVE YOU

'ever heard of a little twink named Dumbledore?' has been replaying in my brain non-stop for the past 24 hours. the funniest thing i've ever heard, permanently altered me on a molecular level, thank you.

So interesting to hear that the stereotype for Remus is that he is the least academic. I was never deep in the Marauders fandom, but I read the occasional Wolfstar and I remember (in my tumblr prehistory of 2011-2012) the dynamic being that Remus was the academic of the group and that although James and Sirius were very smart, they didn't care as much about grades. How times change. Or my brain rot is further gone than I thought and I am misremembering.

when they do an internet excavation in 4024 and this video is all they find...

When i read the first hp book when i was eight years old i could have never predicted that one day I would hear the phrase “the babygirlification of death eaters” but here we are

I'm embarrassed at how much of this lore was sitting in the back of my mind. great vid as usual

snape slander and shipping death eaters together with a cutesy name being a part of the same fandom is crazy lol. finally learned what the plot of ATYD with this video, thanks carley

I think Jegulus is also so popular, because it often ties into a "happy ending alternate universe" for the marauders, rather than the tragic canon ending!

“More often than not he’s shipped with an early grave.” is such an unironically HARD line like DAMN 😭😭😭😭

when you touched on the fact that the women in the fandom aren’t really as talked about, it was completely true. as someone who writes fanfiction for this fandom…i absolutely love writing wlw fics but i’ve noticed that when i post them, they get absolutely no reads compared to my fics about mlm ships, when if i’ve put 70% more effort into it than i do with the mlm fics. sexism in this fandom is definitely NOT spoken about enough.

it’s a crime that so many books have been published that are just r*ylo fanfiction with the serial numbers filed off and NARY a marauders ripoff has yet to hit the shelves

This is my multiverse of madness. I am so excited. 🫡

13:07 "Lily, Harry's dad.." so true

from someone who's incredibly active in the marauders fandom: James: sun, jock, rich, often pansexual, often desi, pureblood, sometimes depicted as having ADHD or anxiety, typically shipped with regulus or lily. Sirius: star, arrogant but secretly insecure of many things, pureblood, often french or asian, affected by his traumatic childhood and The Regulus Situation, usually gay, bi, or trans, ALWAYS shipped with remus. Remus: moon, nerd, usually gay or bi, sometimes dyslexic, halfblood, either flirty and violent or shy and quiet there is no in between, shipped with sirius almost exclusively. Peter: trying his best is most of his personality, often asexual, often plus sized, pureblood, in AU (alternate universe) fics he is usually a good friend and isn't always a rat. Lily: girl, radiates spring energy, usually either lesbian or bi, headcanoned as plus-sized, muggleborn, most commonly shipped with james or mary but occasionally with marlene, sassy and smart. Marlene: punk-badass icon, usually lesbian, shipped with dorcas or sometimes lily, usually pureblood but it changes depending on fic, jock. Mary: bi, straight, or lesbian it changes, black in fanon, muggleborn, flirty, sassy, sometimes has a previous relationship with sirius. Dorcas: usually lesbian, often has a rivals/enemies to lovers arc with marlene, black in fanon with being seen as more dark-skinned than zoe kravitz, pureblood but it varies, smart, usually incredibly sarcastic and snarky. Regulus: star, shipped with james for sunshine x grumpy arc/enemies to lovers not only as a sirius substitute, traumatized, gay or trans, usually french or asian, has problems with sirius, usually dormmates with even rosier and bart crouch jr, smart, posh and "stuck up", sarcastic, has anxiety. Evan: headcanoned as a POC, sometimes said to be pandora's brother (known as the rosier twins), usually gay or bi, pureblood, shipped with barty crouch jr (rosekiller). Barty: canon ravenclaw but often depicted as slytherin, shipped with even rosier (rosekiller), pureblood, daddy issues, usually rich and stuck up, usually gay, canon incredibly intelligent but fanon chaotic dumbass. Pandora: sometimes headcanoned as a POC, sometimes evan's sister (rosier twins), usually ravenclaw, but sometimes slytherin, blood status unknown, hippie-chick vibes, usually either sells or smokes weed, "weird girl", often aeroace, or lesbian, or bi, doesn't have many ships but sometimes is shipped with lily evans (pandalily) or sybil trelawney, close with regulus. there are other more minor characters such as emmeline vance, bejy fenwick, frank longbottom, alice prewett/fortescue/longbottom, etc.. that are mentioned sparsely in the books or have been fabricated by fanfic writers and other fans. characters that are apart of the slytherin skittles/emeralds have very little canon information so the majority of their fanon info is debated on and have many headcanons so it's hard to explain their situations. often, especially in older fics, the valkyries (usually mary, lily, and marlene but sometimes includes dorcas, pandora, and emmeline) are undermined and not given much attention/have no personality other than "pretty girl with attitude" which also makes these explanations difficult. ALSO- there is currently a fan-made series being made called The Rise of the Order (TROTO) about the marauder's lives at hogwarts during the 70s, I'm pretty sure it will be released on youtube when it's complete but I highly recommend checking it out if you're looking for more marauders content. I spent way too much time trying to put this into less than a 56-page essay and I would love to see more marauders content in the future

NEARLY AN HOUR?? you are FEEDING us today and as a marauders stan, i love it

The melting makeup adds drama and cinematic value

"you kiss your mother with those anti-wolfstar lips" is one of those sentences that is just gonna stay in my mind for a while

‘The babygirlification of deatheaters’ ❤

Carley and friends terrorizing Joanne!? It's giving ✨️inconic✨️

every since carley said on the podcast that people tell her she gives off mean girl energy it's driving me insane. how?? how?? this girl melted all her makeup to feed tumblr and ao3 girls for an HOUR. she is SACRIFICING herself and carley i love you

This video was a wakeup call that so much of my nostalgia for Harry Potter isn't from the books or movies themselves, but from being so heavily engrossed in the fandom during my ~formative years~ Preteen/teen me: "omg these books are so good, even the minor characters have so much depth, so much deep lore!!!" Adult me: "No, girl. 99.9% of what you knew about these characters was exclusively through FANFIC"

no one hates jk more than the marauders fandom and i think that’s beautiful

haven’t watched this just yet, but “all the young dudes” now being considered the marauders/wolfstar bible makes me feel old (and a bit sad)-in my time, it was “the shoebox project” which reads like a published novel, not a fanfic. the writing is excellent. it’s so formative to me.

the insanity that is 2010's stan culture will be studied in the centuries to come

I'm mildly ashamed that I noticed, but quick fact correction - when you went over canon at the start, you mentioned lily doing dark magic to protect harry. That's fanon - Rowling really went the 'true love' route. In canon, it's the strength of her love when she sacrifices herself. Widely in fanon, people called bs and went the 'given we know she was 'the smartest witch of her age' she probably laid some ritual magic to make sure her son survived' route. Just a small thing.

more context for mary: its headcannon that she obliviated herself yes, but as a result of literally every single person she's ever known being murdered or in jail (aside from remus, who's mental health was simply gone for the same reasons) because james, lily, marlene, dorcas, regulus, evan, peter were all killed (or so she thought), and barty and sirius were locked up, and obviously she thought sirius betrayed them so why would she care about him? so to save herself and her mental health, she chose to forgo that pain

as someone who has been in the Marauders and Wolfstar fandom since 2007 (in fact, I was part of the spanish Marauders fandom and it was already big, so the english fandom had to be up and running way before), so 10 years before All The Young Dudes was published, I'm surprised about people treating ATYD as Marauders "canon", since it's pretty OOC and NOT actual canon compliant, and I know a lot of older Wolfstar fans that truly don't like these characterizations. I enjoyed it, because it is well-written and well-researched (at least the 70s muggle culture part). and speaking of thatm ATYD definitely didn't introduced the idea of having the Marauders being into 70s muggle popculture, for example Sirius and Andromeda, the two rebelious Black kids, being into muggle music has been part of their headcanon forever. I discovered A LOT of music just by being in the fandom.

the babygirlyfication of the death eaters being so i can fix him (no really i can) vibes

my favorite thing about the marauders fandom is how they’ve transformed jks characters that were mentioned for like two seconds in the books into full blown stories about said characters with aspects ab themselves she would actually hate.

I also think the fact that J.K. Rowling said that being a werewolf is a metaphor for hiv (which is WILD when you have Fenrir Greyback as a werewolf targeting children, when people looove to say that the gays are targeting children) plays a big part in Lupin being seen as gay/bi

ok so i'm like pushing 30 and the last time i was around this fandom was in 2012-2013. here are things i consider canon: Sirius is gay, Remus is bi. they dated in Hogwarts and got back together once Sirius escaped prison. imo it's kinda implied in the books: they live together, they send Harry gifts/letters together. after Sirius dies, Remus is understandably depressed and grieving. he finds some comfort in Tonks, prob also bi, but pushes her away throughout HBP cause he's not ready to move on. like that is canon in my mind, not even fanon lmao

Babe wake up, new Carley deep dive video

The amount of Regulus edits I got when Dune came out is insane truly

It might sound weird, but sometimes i do think imagination is the purpose of humanity and people using their imagination together to create a fandom like this is so beautiful to me.

I practically SCREAMED when I saw this I was literally reading a marauders fic AT THIS MOMENT

This is the best KZfaq video on this app I swear. I was low key giggling kicking my feet lmaooo but also as a HUGE Rosekiller and “Slytherin skittles” fan I’d also like to say that mulciber isnt apart of that group and also Rosekiller and these death eater characters are often written as, yes insane, but also very fleshed out and complex with all their personal issues. Anyways this is so awesome I was so happy watching this you’re so funny!!

ngl hearing all the marauder's lore explained out loud made me realize how absolutely criminally insane me and everybody else in that fandom are, that being said, do I still religiously listen to David Bowie and eat a bunch of chocolate... well yes of course (also I feel like another draw to the fandom is the fact that Remus is usually depicted as disabled/chronically ill which is another minority that barely has ANY REPRESENTATION at all ANYWHERE. So for people like me its just so incredible to read fic where Remus' health issues are at the forefront and you see how it impacts his life and relationships, etc.)

That "you just gotta know" part killed me lol, in the fanfics they just name drop random characters and expect you to KNOW EXACTLY WHO THAT IS, and everybody in the story know who it is, so you just feel ashamed to say that you don't know, shut up and pretend. At this point I feel like every beginner in this fandom just "fake it till you make it" the f*ck out of it lol

Your delivery of “Barty Crouch… junior” had me ROLLING i can’t breatheeeee 😭

I love the idea that the queerificafion of the marauders was just a huge fuck you to JK Rowling but then everyone realised how good it was and just kept continuing to queer up all the characters 🤣🤣🤣

43:29 dude the way i started listening to all the young dudes (the song) bc of all the young dudes (the fanfic) and one time i was playing it while i was cleaning my room and my dad RAN in to ask how i knew it and i simply didn’t have the heart to tell him the truth…

I can’t believe you described the marauder’s map as a snap map, and I can’t believe that it is literally an identical comparison

the way I GASPED when I saw the title i'm so excited

literally jumped for joy omg

I have an alternate hypothesis as to the popularity of James/Regulus. It’s 70s Draco/Harry. Unrelated though, this video was excellent at explaining something to me. Wolfstar has always been my favorite HP ship {ignoring the ones featuring an OC I made up as a child} but I’ve never been able to get into this new iteration of Marauders fandom and couldn’t figure out why. It’s because of the character changes to Remus. Like, I didn’t love the soft boy version of him that predates ATYD - chocolate and sweaterpaws is absolutely not my thing and I find it exhausting when he’s characterized as overly soft-, but I liked it more than the AtYD version that’s ubiquitous now and those being the primary options for my favorite character in the series is what’s walled me out.

whats also a shitty thing done by JKR is you find a lot of 'villainous' characters who aren't seen as 'truly evil' like voldemort or Lucius will be fat, like Peter pettigrew or Like the Dursleys, for example, and their fatness is seen as inherently bad and is written as such. The only good characters that can also be fat have to be 'motherly characters,' like molly weasley. Molly's fatness is seen as nurturing and this is contrasted with Petunia dursley who is the only person who isnot fat in the family and we recognize this as it being a 'fault' in her motherhood because she is not nurturing enough.

I've been in the Marauders fandom since the beginning, I literally met one of my best friends by dressing up as Remus and quoting the Shoebox Project... I do not need to watch this video and I will absolutely be devouring this video anyway.

Thank you uncarley for continuously sacrificing your own brain to provide us with this juicy content

I took psychic damage every time you said “slytherin skittles”

Still currently watching but little correction for about minute 20:00 - in the books (which is canon), Snape never finds James and Lily dead, it's Sirius who finds them (which is all the more tragic). The movies changed it for no apparent reason, it makes no sense to me tbh.

My two favorite things uncarley and the marauders

Saw the title and audibly said oh lord

the marauders fandom is genuinely my roman empire… i remember watching a grant edit with august by taylor swift in 2021 and crying uncontrollably. those were the days :)

Lmaoooo I got a midroll add perfectly inbetween "barty crouch..." and "...junior..."

I love that most of the marauders lore is fan created but it is still and always will be law that Remus and Sirius are fuckin'

Honestly, the biggest appeal of Jegulus for me is the star-crossed lover aspect that is mainly their own doing. It's usually shrouded in this "we must keep this hidden from everyone" whether that be because of the Slytherin-Gryffindor rivalry, plain homophobia, Regulus' abusive parents, Sirius' disapprovement, that in the end boils down to massive amounts of trauma and conditioning to the point that Regulus is unable to see their relationship as anything more than a temporary escape from the future that was decided for him which he won't (read cannot) fight. It's very much a "right person, wrong time" but the right time will never arrive because of circumstances the characters find themselves in and the knowledge that one of them is doomed yet remains unwilling to change in order to save himself. The angst potential is just too good to ignore. Also isn't it written Dorcas and not Dorcus or am I crazy?

Mulciber has and never will be a part of the Slytherin skittles✋🏻

The fact that I discovered ATYD because I saw it while randomly looking through Carley’s read books on Storygraph one day, thought that Remus’s POV and queer tags were enough to convince me to read 1800 pages worth of heartbreak and devastation and now finally watch her deep dive into the Marauders lore is a perfect full circle

this video was a great example of what's wrong with the internet and why it's the best thing ever invented

The way snape is treated between the golden trio era and the marauders era needs to be studied.

me watching this as if i don't know every detail about this fandom

_even if_ taylor wrote all the young dudes, i will never believe it. i will only ever entertain that she read it. Not only read it, but bookmarked it, subscribed to it, and has a throwaway ao3 account for the notifications. not because she’s incapable, not because that wouldn’t be iconic, but what would be more iconic? another taylor project keeping tumblr girlies in another death grip, or one of the tumblr girlies holding taylor (and the rest of us) in a death grip?

49:28 "'So, the biggest ship in the Slytherin Skittles verse is Rosekiller.' Imagine trying to explain that sentence to a child from the Victorian era, you couldn't." 🤣I literally replayed that sentence 3 whole times doing exactly that! The chokehold that fan culture has on linguistics is truly astounding lol thank you for this masterpiece of internet/fandom history, I hope it becomes a pillar of academic wisdom for future historians to marvel at.

lmao I still remember the old fandom days where there were actual arguments between people who shipped wolfstar and people who shipped sirius with marlene

I think the two reasons you listed for jegulus and regulus becoming a major part of the fandom are definitely valid . But for me as a member of the fandom the dynamic between regulus and Sirius is a big part of it. With the general consensus that they were raised in an abusive family it is a very interesting and real dynamic to explore as someone who also experienced abuse. Siblings often have completely different experiences and povs when it comes to abuse and I feel like that is something that is really explored in the fandom and I really connect to it.

OH MORHER CAME TO SAVE THE DAY AND SLAY THE DAY

I love that Marauders is still going. You had All The Young Dudes. We had Shoebox Project. This fandom is going to live forever ❤

I had a brief mauraders fling and i gotta say for the insanity that is this fandom, fancasting timothee as regulus was actually genius.

begging you to do an unhinged deep dive video into the marauders fanfic crimson rivers: a 860k+ hunger games au with basically all these ships and tropes except theyre all even more messed up because its yk the hunger games.

carley once again choosing the most dangerous fandom to talk about right after larries. what next kpop fans?😭

i think part of the reasoning for peter being portrayed as like buff or like even just average in fanon content is because of the connection between his size and his status as a villain,, like how there are no plus size characters who aren’t mean or like villains and how like damaging this can be (idk if this makes sense but you get the vibes)

thoughts from someone who was IN the trenches 2015-2020: - remus was actually a mix of soft boy / david bowie in most of those fics. he smoked and listened to alt music but was also academically strong due to not wanting to be held back by circumstances (this was also the time where TRC was big on tumblr so there were many parallels between remus lupin and adam parrish) - remus and lilys friendship was often the linchpin. remus and lily were friends before she and james were dating, they gave each other advice, she was his main go to during the fall out of the Prank - sirius was the punk rock misunderstand Baddie with niche interests and adhd energy but was more the doberman to james’ golden retriever. - lily indeed was “girl” witty, kind, intelligent, academic but also intrinsically worked within the marauders group. bi, obviously. her friends were usually marlene, alice and frank, dorcus and mary, with marlene being her “best friend” and portrayed similarly to how she is in modern marauders fic - james has been HCed as desi since about 2016 from my memory and the loyal, steadfast happy go lucky vibe from those times seems to have persisted because he’s honestly just a lover boy who’s very hard to get wrong - regulus mostly existed as an angst point for wolf star or conflict within sirius’ internal life and did not usually have a major impact - peter was usually portrayed as the Other One, always there, occasionally funny and existed on the fringes, which kinda led into the portrayal. tl; dr: major character differences from early 2010s marauders, sincerely written by an early marauders Expert (i read and wrote these fics up until last year)

as a Resident Desi™️ myself, i had to do a doubletake when Carley pronounced it "dezzy" 🤭 that sounds sm cooler, i wish, it's like "dthay-see" phonetically, if you're curious !!

the last time i was heavily in the marauders fandom was like 2012-2016, kind of on and off, and hearing all the new stuff the kids have come up with is both daunting and impressive. i do remember being there for like the earliest versions of desi james potter, and i absolutely ran with it, like he was my karachi-ite king for a good bit.

the sirius and remus personality and aesthetic swap will be my roman empire i HATE it😭

Headcanons/things I would like to add: -Bartylus (bartyxregulus) pre rosekiller -Pandora was in ravenclaw -aroace Peter -trans regulus More Ships: -Pandora x lily -bellatrix x Rita -Alice x narcissa

This is so wild to me as a HP fandom OG who hasn't been involved in the fandom for the past decade. I remember a fanfic writer on the official HP boards twenty years ago writing a Marauders-in-a-band fic, with Lily and several self-insert characters also in a competing band (iirc I was the drummer). I am so delighted to see how the HP fandom was reclaimed from she-who-must-not-be-named. The kids are alright. :D

No bc I just found out YESTERDAY that Regulus was related to Sirius Black and died before the story even began?? (I have never read Harry Potter)

I remember I wasn’t allowed to have a tumblr in middle school and high school in its peak but I COULD have a Pinterest and so many of my boards were filled with screenshots from tumblr and I had a board for the marauders but I didn’t really know the lore I just fell into it…boy what a time that was

I had an HOURS long conversation with someone unpacking the insane difference in the fandom since ATYD and TikTok became the central hub instead of tumblr and Pinterest because they were a newer fan and I was a part of the old fandom and left before it all happened!

MY ART TEACHER USED OUR SCHOOL PRINTER TO PRINT THAT FANFIC WITH THE 60S MARAUDERS TO DO BOOK BINDING IN THE SCHOOL CAFETTERIA OMG

just uncarley with the most relevant videos. we stan 🤍.

I don't know if I'm ready to unpack the memories of my teenage self

As someone who didn't grow up in fandoms, it's been weird realising that there's a big disregard for female characters, often in favour of male gay ships, in fandoms that are surprisingly (mostly) women-based. I just can't wrap my head around it.

as an avid marauders fan, i think you hit on all the good points however, you are truly right that you have barely scratched the surface this is the deepest dive i have seen in one video, and i applaud you for that. the dedication is Insane it is truly amazing (and appaling) to see what a fandom can do with eight characters that were only mentioned a few times in the original canon