Literally I was just about to say the way she babygirl'd it and then called it star wars 😍❤️‍🔥

My heart was dying when she said it but still did the hand sign right.

It triggered me and then I had to throw up with how embarrassing it is to be triggered by that

she's so real, you can't fake that

Well and truly

Exactly. Honestly my favorite thing is how Marauders doesn't even have a canon like it's literally just fan nonsense

Honestly though JKR made such a bare sandbox worthy world that we had to do something with it. I bet if she actually did world building we wouldn't be obsessed with our own creations.

This is why it’s the shining star of HP fandom. I can’t explain it. You guys are miles above the rest of us.

YES

Also les mis, Anjorales I love it

And that’s what we’ve come to love and expect from her. Love that.

Really`? Are there sources? I need to know more xD

@@theincredibleknuffibar4834 atleast the first recorded fanfiction written is sherlock fanfic. so. people probably shipped them back then as well. even tho it wasn't as unhinged. cuz like. 1800s.

​@@LivelyLinnea I think the first ship fanfiction was for Star Trek in the 70's though, and I'm pretty sure it was smut as well lmao. But I've also seen some other people debate that saying there were already people shipping The Man From UNCLE characters in the 60S so idk really Either way it kills me to think there are people out there whose grandmas wrote smut fanfictions when they were teenagers 😭

@@theincredibleknuffibar4834 People have been speculating about Sherlock and Watson’s sexualities and relationship for as long as Sherlock Holmes has been a thing

She actually said something about JohnLock at around 10:40 that made me laugh, "We would not have had WWII if the Sherlock fans were running parliament." A Sherlock fan _was_ running the government. Winston Churchill was a good friend and major fan of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, author of the Holmes novels. They met at the Pall Mall Club in1900, where they both gave a speech on the South African War. Some even believe that Churchill got his famous line, from his speech after the Nazi's bombed the crap out of England and the RAF bravely defended the nation, "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.” from Doyle. (Churchill actually preferred Doyle's historical books over the Sherlock series, but he was an admirer of both.) And the feeling was mutual. In a letter to The Times in 1927, Doyle wrote about Churchill’s account of the Somme Battle, stating “Personally, I have long recognized that Winston Churchill has the finest prose style of any contemporary.” (Not something successful authors often say about politicians.) It was a long and interesting friendship - though thankfully not a SHIP-ship as far as I know.

Carley’s whole channel proves she grew up on tumblr if to be honest

I LOVE YOUR PFP

the taylor swift wrote atyd conspiracy perfectly sums up the delusion of thinking everything she does is an easter egg and the general unhingedness to be a marauders fan requires. only a fandom that exists based on 5 sentences in the source material, that is also populated by tiktok swifties, would arrive at that conclusion.

@@wa11iei’m interested why do people think she wrote it? i’m not in the fandom and have never heard of it but i’m curious 😂

@@Izzywildflowerr i don’t even know what the ‚proof‘ was but it starts with the author‘s ao3 handle being ms king bean 89, and every good swiftie knows that taylor was the only person born in 1989. i reccomend looking up all the young dudes taylor swift on youtube, you’ll find people who can explain it much better

Of course there are...😂

as a swiftie and a marauders fan i dont think anyone actually believes she wrote it lol, its more of a joke now in both fandoms

i too was just like "girl you fear Kaylors more...than Larries?? they terrify me!"

you have not witnessed kaylors up close like i have. they are convinced that despite the fact karlie is married WITH TWO KIDS that they are still dating and somehow manage to be without being noticed about together DESPITE HOW THATS IMPOSSIBLE BC- actual Taylor Swift hello!!

@@engagingathena9965 did ya'll see how tay ended them in the 1989 prologue lolll

All the Larries and Gaylors I've met have been way nicer than the antis and hetlors but that's just my experience

@@honestlyali28 tbf yeah it’s just kaylors specifically on twitter can be quite mean. all the ones ik irl are nice

Fr 😂😂

I agree lol. Hearing it layed out like that was a trip

It’s still happening 😮

We’re kinda insane, but we built this entire world by ourselves with absolutely no canon knowledge. It’s one of my favorite fandoms tho. Almost all of us are super nice

Please

real

i’m begging for it

ITS A NEED

NO FR LIKE SHE DOESNT GET IT NOW BUT SHE WILL

Unparalleled in its insanity for sure.

As a content-only fan of both of them, the *fandom* was unhinged in the very worst way.

as someone who only started watching their content after they went on hiatus, i didn't know how truly terrifying the obsession with phan was until i watched this video and did my research on the valentine's day incident. like carly didn't lie here, it really was enough to ruin anyone's life. thank goodness that it's not so bad now, presumably because their fanbase has grown up and is consequently a bit more tame.

It's sad cause I don't even know what their videos were about, I only know about them through horror stories about the fandom

yeah, it's surprising that they're still on the internet and not 100% resentful of their fans

Thank you

🤍

lithium: it cures interest in fanfiction *and* lights on fire!

im sorry if this is rude but this comment is fucking hilarious holy shit

Omg pls drop what your user was I would love to read your fics 😭😭

I’m sorry I laughed at this

oh my god this has me PEEING THIS IS SO FUNNY IM SO SORRY THO

I have never cried as hard reading or watching any other fictional story the way I did when I finished ATYD, like it's that powerful

Also I love the fact that while there is nothing to base them off of from most fanfiction that I have read had similar characterisation of the single characters even though they could be extremely different because there is nothing to go from. So you could have just wrote whatever to the character and it won’t be wrong but still there so many headcanons that were just collectively decided on and so many shared personality treats.

i’ve read Choices by messermoon like 10 times, i’m addicted to that fic istg it’s my canon at this point

@@beth8191 me but with only the brave 😭 I’m honestly scared to read choices

@@annamaria9392 i finished OTB 2 weeks ago, it’s essentially the happy version of choices 😭😭 Choices will always be my fav jegulus fic though, the mythology motifs throughout are immaculate, definitely give it a try (bearing in mind the tags obviously)!! :)

Never going to forget the horror when I first found out about wincest

the fact that it's called wincest which sounds like incest is hilarious

@@calicognocchiunfortunately that's on purpose 😭 the ship for the twins from Gravity Falls is called Pinecest for the same reason

@@theclairewhy hahaha good to know, at least they're self aware that they are shiping siblings

​@@calicognocchithere's a pic of the actors who played the Weasley twins holding a picture that says "twincest is wrong"!

no bc November 5 2020 was INSANE. no other ship had that impact

The love confession literally caused Tumblr and Twitter to explode and we all thought Putin was resigning as a result. 5/11/20 is a date for the history books

this!! like if it somehow came out that Taylor and Karlie dated in the past I wouldn't be THAT surprised but believing that they are still together is straight up insanity

Genuinely, with everything I’ve learned from going down the gaylor rabbit hole- still standing behind Larry is just plain delusion but still believing Kaylor is ongoing is insanity. Whether Kaylor happened or not, Karlie betrayed Taylor with her having (allegedly) known that Scooter intended to buy her masters and not warning her. Like forget the idea of them being romantically involved for a minute, that’s so deeply terrible on another level. Like it ruined their friendship regardless (and that’s not even bringing in the fact that Karlie married and had kids with a Kushner). To still cling on to Kaylor now is to ignore everything that probably ruined their friendship in the first place and if they WERE dating, that must’ve hurt Taylor way worse. For both, it’s a level of delusion to still insist in something never proven that you’re willing to claim a real child in a real marriage is a cover up. Like that kid is gonna grow up and possibly be faced with those rumors and you honestly think their existence is just publicity????

I've gotten into fights with Kaylors, they genuinely terrify me too. Some think Karlie's kids are secretly Taylor's too which is insane. Like the commenter above me is saying, even if they were a thing they clearly don't talk or interact anymore. It's widely believed Karlie was telling things about Taylor to Scooter Braun. Why would you ship her with someone that betrayed her?

@@Allison1111the same actually goes for larries. They either think Freddie (Louis’ son) is a paid actor (and a doll as a baby) that they photoshop to look more like Louis, he’s the child of his grandma and step grand pa or he’s Louis and Harry’s child, because Louis obviously has never touched a woman in his life and bisexuality doesn’t exist (you know if lastly was real, he could still have a child with a woman, if he was bi)

As a larrie I don’t at all think they’re still together. It was only ever during the 1D days and I mean like the 2010 era.

not simply an apartment anymore, they bought the house of their dreams together

That's because they're canon lmao

@@LenaBlak Lily and James Potter are canon T.T

Every day it’s getting closer

@@kennyvancullen9949 but they are barely show up in the story. people love the imagination more. i think that's why people love enemies to lovers too cuz it took awhile for the couple being together. they love the longing and drama in it

@@margarete5920 Ya, that's fair

I started atyd bc I saw it on her goodreads 😭

​@@Val-hu4ygHah! Same, I heard her reference it in a video and I got curious

@@Val-hu4ygwhat’s her goodreads?

@@pissypamper7789 she’s not on goodreads anymore but on StoryGraph as carleythorne

@@kjarakravik4837which video did she reference it in?

Don’t cry, craft I’m sorry I couldn’t help myself

DanAndPhilGames is back, the world is healing

Or they needed more money after taking prolonged breaks from content creation 😂

^^ ​(person above) boooooo 🍅🍅🍅🍅

@@S-CCCC……

as someone in the marauders fandom, i can confirm the video would be 13+ hours long 😭 there are too many good fanfictions that have changed the standards and trajectory of the fandom (e.g Art Heist, Baby!, Choices, Crimson Rivers, Just Lovers (like we were supposed to be) to name a few)

which made me curious why WB decided to make story about newt instead of the marauders? they can made it into high school series/long movies. LIKE, WE HAVE THE AUDIENCE AND THE MATERIAL CMON

​@margarete5920 Honestly making an official marauders movie sounds like a terrible idea since fans are the ones who created almost everything from scratch. If they took ideas from the fandom and profited off of it it would be a copyright nightmare, and if they did something completely different none of the fans would be happy since that would go against more than a decade of headcannons. Plus, I think it's way more fun that stuff like marauders or goncharov 1973 are collaborative efforts by thousands of different people who still somehow manage to have a cohesive canon. Having jkr weigh in on what's canon and what's not would take away from the magic

@@margarete5920 yeah I definitely agree with what @kjarakravik4837 said, the whole basis of the marauders fandom is that we built it up ourselves, if we let JKR or WB get their hands on it (which they wouldn’t bc JKR hates fanfics and it’s queerness) they’d take away everything we love from it (e.g headcanons, ships, fanon culture in general), it would be awful. On top of that, it would dilute what the fandom produces due to the canonisation. Essentially, people would start considering it as canon and the whole essence of the fandom would be gone.

i once made a powerpoint for my sister to explain the marauders and the fandom... it was nearly 5 hours long, and that was just the basics

and the fact the fans managed to create a cohesive and coherent canon? Mind-blowing dedication, truly admirable

If I was a psychologist I would dedicate my entire life to studying this incredible phenomenon. Also I think you'd have a field day with Goncharov 1973, created from a tag on boots

@@kjarakravik4837 goncharov is literally so iconic

i've been a marauders fan since i was 11, and now i'm 24 and it's still going strong

I started shipping them when I saw art of them in Christmas sweaters and when people started to discuss Luigi being Bowser Jr.’s step dad. Like the appeal for me is that this ship should objectively not be fluffy and cute at all, but like it is? And I love it

S tier ship

I’m reporting everyone involved with this comment, including myself

It’s also fed by how in the various sports games, all the characters are chill with eachother, like the kidnapping bit is an act or something, so it’s easy to make a more civil fanon where they could totally have a rivals to lovers arc

& the fact that they rented a different apartment just for filming (13 yo me:🤯🤯)

No, we actually don't. We got caught up on the 70's 😭

I have to laugh. I love their madness

NOO I PROMISE THE FANART AND EDITS ARE SO MUCH BETTER IN 2023 AND NOT THE PHOTSHOPPED HEADS ON BODIES 😭😭

This was me and Phan, I was in sooo deep and it's embarrassing now bc it ruined their lives 💀

⁠@@AlexGilbert_big same, phan was my entire personality throughout middle school and it just feels a little icky now. But like, you live and you learn. Also, other than it feeling icky, it was also just pretty cringe. I did English assignments about them. Like I made my teacher deal with that crap 😂

I was deep in the trenches with Larry back in 2013 and dear god the level of cringe and utter embarrassment I feel now at how delusional I was is astounding. Idk how people still believe in that garbage 😂

@@ellie5995 fr😭😭

I think for most of us it’s a joke but its mainly because the author who wrote atyd their username ended in 89, so 1989 and also a lot of taylor songs fit with the marauder ships

there's also something about how 'cardigan' could be interpreted as a wolfstar song, based on the lyrics, but i think that's most of it

I’m 54, my daughter is 28, we’re both straight, and we think she is the SEXIEST 🤭

mulder/scully & spock/kirk are shaking hands...historic "Wait....are they...??" moments

I understand the need because I feel the need to explain this to anyone who will listen 😭

Those phannies were on FBI level and a lot of those theories turned out to be true… which must have made them sooo uncomfortable😢 it’s great to know that they still maintain a strong partnership after all the craziness that they went through.❤

fr. i think it’s fine to ship them casually and write fanfiction about them ig 🤔 i never did that but idk. i think it’s a whole other thing when you’re basically shoving your ship down the people involved’s throat and invading their privacy to “prove something.”

@@tsuki3752along this line, Phan is how I can now just Tell the different between “I’m writing some chill rpf for fun” and “I’m writing this rpf bc I want it to be real/i think it’s real” based on vibes. This is also why kill bill sirens went off in my head when I first encountered DNF

It kinda broke my heart haha i'm still reading fics about them😭😭

They’re the most popular ship on ao3! I looked it up for a different comment on this video. I’ve never been a teen wolf fan (never watched it, too busy obsessing over supernatural and sherlock in high school I guess 😅) but I was a little (a lot) embarrassed how many of the top ships I recognized and/or had read (or written…) for. If you were wondering it goes sterek, destiel, drarry, johnlock, stucky, stony, minor or background relationships (which cracks me up every time, that it makes the list, but I guess statistically it makes sense), aziraphale/crowley, wangxian, bakudeku. Also harry/snape has more fics than reylo which is cursed knowledge I’m forced to live with and now must share with you

Agreed 😀

Yeah, wasn’t it just the BBC version that was canon?

I love you so much for sharing this!

wait i love that

seconded

I read a paper one time that said the reason women love m/m ships so much is because the dynamic forces vulnerability from the male characters, which isn't fulfilled in real life hetero relationships because of toxic masculinity, and so women seek it out in other forms.

obviously not to say you're incorrect, i do agree with you to an extent. i just wanted to share a possible other cause.

​@makingmils it's also alittle weird how straight women are obsessed with mlm relationships. I was reading something about this and it also felt like some kind of fetish if you get what I mean. "Oh they're so cute they cant possibly be in a real relationship"

@@makingmils It's OK, I don't think we are contradictory. I think obsession can be a powerful thing, so it is painful to realize that girls and young women can only explore their own fantasies through male surrogates.

@@lesbiangoddess290 yeah it's just like how straight men love lesbians porn/ship but actually homophobic. It's one of the problem in 'shipping' fandom honestly. some just care about the ship, but when faced with real gay couple in real life they're like, ew

is that a mulder pfp 👀

@@freddie6307 😏

As someone who’s favorite movie is Pitch Perfect and has read most of the bechloe fanfics out there, my favorite wlw ship that is based off fanon is staubrey. Like it’s one of the biggest ships in the fandom but it’s based off of headcanons that Stacie, while hypersexual, is also insanely smart and grounding to Aubrey, who is made to seem crazy and over controlling in the films, but is just anxious and underloved. Like they rarely interact in the films but the fan interpretations of the characters are beautiful and in love. (Which don’t get me started on the wlw fan ship that barely interacts in the movie that I can’t get behind because I can’t get behind a problematic age gap✌🏼, it goes both ways, some fan ships are a little too unhinged for my tastes)

@@dasiasaur oof yeah problematic age gaps are not it. I love how people can see two women, think they'd be perfect together and create amazing fics for them, that's so cool

@@supposedlymel fully agreed, if you were wondering what the pairing I found slightly problematic was, it was a pair that’s interacted even less than Stacie and Aubrey and it’s because it’s Aubrey and Emily, otherwise known as the person who graduated right after the first movie and the person who was an incoming freshman during the start of the second movie, which is about 3-4 years later because it’s then Beca’s senior year. So like 7-8 year age gap where the dynamic makes sense because it’s sweet puppy love with the overanxious underloved type. So the character dynamics are compatible but I can’t get past the weird age difference

This!

Yes exactly! The Aaron Tveit of it all just adds lol

THANK YOU!!!!

!!!!! you get it!!!

Victor Hugo literally compares them to orestes and pylades, achilles and patroclus, etc when introducing the amis... and they died HAND IN HAND in the brick

The original message board obsession

I mean technically it was J2 (awful awful awful) that "invented" ABO, but yes

@@idkhowbutimgay welp......

Who cares he's not real :D

i need to know about taylor allegedly writing a fanfic😭

@@b8376 pls i feel like at this point its just become such a funny thing to add to the lore, but lowkey... sometimes... if youre delusional enough... the dots do connect 🫣

*Love everything you do, Carley 🫶🏻😂

That probably needs to be its own video. 🤣

my theory is they got such high stats because they're tagged as a side couple in all the m/m marauders fics

How is it not? Isn’t ship just a relationship you like the idea of? Even if it’s canon

what? ship is short for relationship... do you think ship just means non canon or non married people? lmao

@@cacography yes it does, it's almost always a side ship in wolfstar but back in the days it was very popular until people somehow came up with jegulus lmao. i haven't been in the harry potter fandom in years so seeing the jegulus ship is extremely strange to me

how?

she is/was a mauraders fan, theres no way she wasnt.

she has to be istg