I love how you clean your dust collector filter with another dust collector

I love the fact that your shop is in constant evolution. Seems like a smaller dust collector for each machine makes more sense since it takes less space and is more convenient to use. Keep up the great content!

Thanks for promoting my filters, nothing gets past a Garrison.

I love the editing in your videos. So fast paced! Never a dull moment.

You should get rid of them, they're just sitting there collecting dust...

Just came back after I've built the same dust collector for my sanding machines with a small blower fan. It just works, quiet and efficient. I think this video and approach is just amazing. Thanks.

I like your approach to things better than all the other wood workers I watch.

For some reason the fans and dust collectors you make are very satisfying to me.

Great idea. I used to have a long 150 foot garden hose. Now I have 3 40 foot hoses. Saves so much time dragging it around.

Simple, easy, practical with data to back the results. And as usual, cost effective. Channel should be named " Woodworking with Engineers ". Great video as always.

Dear Matthias Wandel, You always manage to put a smile on my face, no matter how many times I review your good works, and educating videos. THANX!

Your dust collection videos are a great use of KZfaq, sourcing your fan base for working on everybody's health. Thanks for the community effort!

I've been driving myself mad with my dust problem, no collection yet, or time to woodwork but I've been thinking about it a lot. This set up(one at every tool), and then once in a while going thru all of them with a shop vac and cyclone is probably going to work out perfect for my spare time woodworking endeavours. Thank you! Now to figure out the lathe dust...

I used to watch your channel and I lost my device to water damage. I stumbled onto this podcast and I’m am so glad I did. I’ll get my subscription in and never wander off again. Promise!

Being subscribed means that you get to see the video on the same day that it was posted and by the time you watch it it has 50,000 views. Wandel.. the Coolest woodworking nerd the planet has created thus far.

You've always impressed me Matthias, I don't think I've seen anyone as dedicated to good dust collection as you are. It's pretty neat!

I'm always amazed at the little nuanced design decisions Mattias see and solves to make a really nice piece of hardware.

Great idea. I did something similar in my old shop. Table saw on one, Miter Saw on another, and everything else used a modified bucket collector. It worked really great, and I avoided having ducting everywhere with blast gates to play with.

I think several small collectors is a great idea. Your results validate the concept. I too dislike a larger system's infrastructure.

I'm impressed. Folding the filter was creative. I also like the use of the particle meter to measure results. I am now subscribed!

Hi just want to say I enjoy more watching you doing wood than the tractor

you should put lexan covers on them so you can see when the filters are getting full

And they're quieter, and more energy efficient also, I would imagine. Nice work!

I have the same planer. I just fit some 4" PVC pipe to the dust port and route it into a large garbage can. I bungee some geotextile (nonwoven filter fabric) over the top. It collects all the chips and dust no problem.

I like that you give an update after The projects were put to use! Excellent job!

Just discovered your channel, very cool. I especially like the fast forwardy bits.

I think I saw this video years ago, but at the time, I lived in a place that had a 4-car garage. So space was less of an issue at the time. My current workshop is much smaller and it would be really nice to not have duct work all over and a dust collector as well. So I think I'll give this a go for my compound miter saw and see how it goes. Thanks Matthias!

I have made one of these dust collectors for my radial arm saw and it works awesome!

Really good work on that lid, I don't know why but I find that lid awesome, the way it fits perfect

I really like watching you make these mini dust collectors!

I think you're right Matthias. I was going to wire up blast gates and current sensing modules all over the shop. Now I think I'll just have a separate dust collector for each machine. Cheers

I like this idea and have been working on some similar ideas with all of the vacuum cleaners I find in the trash.

I must built one of them. You always are a big source of inspiration. Thank you!

Just ran across your channel. Love the idea of decentralized dust collection. Much simpler and probably less power over time. Kepp broadcasting!!

Interesting indeed! The concept of a dedicated dust collector at the point of generation has always intrigued me. But never thought it would work well. Yours appears to do fine. Thanks!

Great video! I think this especially makes sense for the tools like sanders that only create fine dust. No need for a huge dust collector when something like this will do the job just fine.

Splendid video! I really appreciate watching you build small things in a simple cost effective way! Inspires me every time to do it myself! You have a peculiar way to look at things that seems so simple yet effective! Talking of which I don't seem to have a dust collector! Gonna get right to it!

Your woodworking skills leave everybody else in the dust !

I've always wondered about the idea of makchining my own air blowers out of metal, but I've never thought of using wood, I never would have thought of it as a good material to make one out of until seeing your videos, you've made a couple of them and they seem to really work well.

Love your DIY videos mate! I like to watch them while eating. It pleases me very much. Thanks!

Wonderful use of shop tools as always Mathew, thanks for the inspiration ...

That is a really interesting approach to dust collection.

I love your videos Mattias, I wish I had half of your skill and a quarter of your tools. With these filters that you have made I don't understand why you don't have the suction at the top. Having the vanes of the filters running horizontaly or even diagonally (A frame) would leave shelves for the dust to build up on. If the filter was mounted in the ceiling of the box and suction at the top, the dust has little to settle on on the filter. Position the inlet maybe 1/3 to 1/2 way up the filter box and have a hopper below. Once a buildup of dust reaces a critical point, the weight of it would drop clumps of dust back down into your hopper. In effect this would self clean the filter to a large degree, you would only have to empty your hopper and clean off the finer particles from time to time. I look forward to more of your videos and your thoughts.

Your lunacy is so practical.

I like it. The redundancy is nice; if one machine's collector breaks down, you can borrow from one of the others in the shop.

thanks for posting these "experiment" videos as opposed to a simple "how to" -- it's much greater learning why certain things are done -- very cool!!

I had this same thought a few years ago and always wondered if it would work (never followed through on it though because I couldn't find a cheap enough blower). Thanks for proving that it does! I never thought to use blower motors from a water heater...brilliant!

those high dollar air filters cause my A.C motor to get hot .hard to pull air thru ...man you are great at making this stuff .and i copy every thing i can from you .i have emphysema had to retire need the clean air ..keep it up please my wood shop is going to look great and clean air ..all because of you

I like the idea, my only criticism is that now you have half a dozen dust collectors to empty instead of one. I think its a good system though because you do save so much money, time and effort not having to deal with the ducting.

you are awesome Mathias. I really appreciate your methods of investigating stuff.

Great idea. The hassle of a single large dust collection system has always prevented me from going that route. Putting one on each machine is great cause you can move the tool to accommodate any work without having to worry about moving the collection lines also.

Excellent. I headed the same way for my new shop six months ago but totally missed the idea of folding the filters - Brilliant!!! The Inducer wheel impeller is much more efficient and meets all of my needs including a CNC router. The other great thing about your design is that the box can be sized and flipped horizontally and vertically as needed. Air molecules don't mind.

I love how compact these are. Personally I think I'd like a huge dust collector with ductwork running to each machine in my shop someday, but think is certainly a good alternative.

Good work man! You're an inspiration for us guys who live in the city who don't have room for a workshop or a shed :)

I love your precision

I have a portable dust collector on wheels that I connected to the bottom of my table saw. (built a box beneath it to contain the vacuum.) That takes care of the majority of the sawdust. But for the remaining what I do is to directly connect a small shop van and have the business end of the hose hovering just above where the blade meets the wood. I took an arm from an old arm lamp and use that as a convenient holder for the collection hose. The combination works great. And I think I save a step as any residual dust goes straight into the shop vac.

I like the way you speed up your videos , if I have to watch someone on standard time drive in all the screws, tighten all the bolts etc. , I go on to the next video .

Very nice work. Very professionally done. Also enjoy your FF editing when showing the labor (sawing, drilling, etc.). Makes for a very enjoyable watch. We can see how you did the work (laying out, transferring, etc.) without watching paint dry. (c;

i love watching people work on projects when i am indoors relaxing

Love the plans, thanks for doing the measurements in English :-) The idea for one on each tool is really cool !!

I like your idea and it seems to be a quieter solution as well.

In a related story, the marketing team for Garrison's filters is said to still be celebrating with cocaine and strippers to this day.

4:03 damn thats such a great detail, made with a perfectionist mindset. I salute you!

That looks promising Matthias, thanks for sharing!

back on the farm my grandpa used fruit flies to collect dust. grandma and ma ran the fruit fly farm. they bred those flies for miles. the good trick to dust collecting with fruit flies is to rub raspberries on your lumber so the flies know what to grab

I like those square screw that you're using, no risk of striping

this channel is my happy place

Brilliant, Matthias. I think my big shop dust collector will soon become dedicated to just the cnc.

I had the same feelings re a whole shop dust collector vice individual dust collector at each power tool, particularly those which generate large volumes of dust. However my approach is to use small shop vacs connected to relay switch that has a built in time delay when stopping. It's a tad expensive but I don't have the resources to look for blowers at flea markets, garage sales and dumpsters. However Mathias' approach and design are very entertaining.

Nicely done, tnx Mr. Wandel for sharing it!!!

nice work Mathias... will give it some thought for my shop!

Commercial AC tech here, I can confirm cheaper filters merv 7 and merv 8 give much better airflow. I always recommend homeowners buy the least expensive pleated filters. Higher merv and allergy filters restrict airflow and do not keep the equipment any cleaner.

Wow, I have been watching your videos for a while now. and I really liked this one, very innovative, a lot of cool efficient ideas into that dust collector. I like the background and the reason why for the project.

For machines like sanders, scroll saws,... this seems to be a good solution. Better and less complicated than a pipe system for all of them together.

Loving this idea! And with your permission going to use it in my workshop too. The only problem I have is finding a good source for all the electrical parts.

Wow. At 3:48 I feel like a fool for not realizing the end of a caliper can be used to measure too. Thank you!

Now you got me thinking. I may build a small one for my scroll saw. Great idea.

I'm building something similar with my table saw/router table now. I'm going to try using a power duct fan good for 220cfm. Hopefully it does the trick! Great build again!

this dude never ceases to amaze me!

Get a Dust Deputy; I have one connected to my CNC router and love it. The DD bin will be full in a few weeks but the vacuum's filter and container are still clean and empty.

That would be great for my shop. It's very small. Perfect! I can tell you like the creative process.

Very clean design/implementation.

very cool. i am building one for my belt sander right now. thanks for inspiration

fantastic, thanks for taking the time to share you experience with us.

Fantastic Video. Keep up the great work. Nick.

Your two garrison filters were allergen filters while that 3m was one of the lowest quality pleated 3m filters. Still probably a better quality filter, just doesn't trap as fine of dust. For filter setups, you normally want to use a pre-filter (cheap, fairly coarse collection.) and then your fine filter (allergen or other fine/ high filtration filter) The logic is your fine filters are better quality/ more expensive and catch the small stuff the cheap/coarse filter missed. The cheap filters clog up with large stuff but keeps the large material off the fine filter. They can then be vacuumed or tossed. This is a more efficient and longer lasting design than just 2 fine filters in series or 1 coarse filter like that 3m was. (3M has a large array of different filtration qualities. But cheap filters for sawdust collection are probably best. Go with the good ones for your home and family.) Great build and I like how well those pulled in the sawdust.

HVAC duct guy here. By cutting open the shroud further, you didn’t increase total airflow (CFM). What you did do is decrease velocity (FPM) because you increased the internal volume without changing motor speed. And also introduced turbulence because the blades aren’t directing the airflow out their intended, engineered opening. Not that it creates any catastrophic failure, but you can be filtering much more particles per minute if you stick to the designed openings as closely as possible.

Really, really, really like these Matthias. Thank you.

Another good one Matthias. Thanks for the inspiration!

That does make a lot of sense. A vacuum for each tool. That way if the vacuum on one tool breaks at least the others work.

Matthias, thanks for another great experiment. Check out American Filter Fabric for "shaker felt" filtration options. They have great info on using shaker felt (it gets cleaned by simply shaking it) for these kinds of applications, and the material is available by foot/yard. People need to remember that the current marketing rage for tool manufacturers is the neo-industrial DC system; there's a lot of money to be made on health fears. What you've discovered is the inherent problem of shrinking an industrial production grade solution down to a hobbyist level -- the engineering is far more subtle than just shrinking everything down, and one of engineering's key principles is efficiency, including the efficient use/value of money. The industrial systems become relatively more expensive to arrive at the acceptable level of filtration as they shrink in size. In simple terms, at a certain level, going with multiple standalone units will become a lot cheaper than one massive unified system, and then there's the added consideration of usable shop space that is in play with DC pipe systems -- lost space is = to lost opportunities/capabilities of other tools and workpiece size restrictions. The shop itself is the most expensive part of our hobby, much more so than all of the tools that fill it, so it is wise to use it as the limited resource that it is. The penalty of individual units are the obvious maintenance headaches at multiple units (there are more boxes and motors to break) and the multiple cleaning headaches. Not to be overlooked is the challenge of providing enough power outlets at the right places for those many motors. Is a spaghetti plate floor of extension cords a good or safe idea in a place with lots of flesh-eating machines?

I've been doing something similar with those cheap little shop vacs + a cyclone/thien baffle. I like your solution better; more airflow, larger capacity and much quieter too!

Nice job. My belt sander will get a new dust collector this weekend. Thanks

I already collect too much stuff. So I don't want to start collecting dust too. But everyone needs a hobby I suppose. So more power to ya!

Matt is the guy you want when designing​ aircraft systems..he sweats the details.

I want your workshop!!! :D Really interesting that the cheap filter outperforms the Filtrete one. You can make an even better one with a dedicated metal cabinet for the filter housing with a 5" thick filter. It has better filtration performance, and a larger surface area, meaning it can perform longer without having to be cleaned. These filters are for furnaces, and they are rated at MERV11 or MERV14 - the air cleaning capabilities are far higher than a bag filter or the thin furnace filters you are using. Of course, your filters appear to work just fine for a workshop, and thus are not an issue.

Well done, an elegant answer.

Very interesting I'm in need of dust control in my shop and like the idea of individual units for each machine

Very creative dude! Thanks for sharing

Although this video is over 4 years young, I do believe this concept (each tool having it's own dc) is the future.