what dan calls the John Carter effect is just when you tell a joke, and only one person hears it and then they repeat it louder and everyone laughs at your joke

Imagine Luke Gorgeous as a Pinky and the Brain style series. -What are we going to do today? -The same thing we do every day. Try to ruin art.

I actually experienced the Yesterday effect in real life. When I was much younger, and Quantum Leap was still airing, there is an episode where Sam goes back in time and ends up with his family, and in trying to keep his brother from going to Vietnam, and keep his sister from ending up with an abusive husband, tries to prove to his sister that he's from the future. So in order to do so, he ends up talking a little about the Beatles, but can't bring himself to tell his sister that John dies, and instead says "John goes on to make my favorite song." And he begins to play Imagine. At first his sister is transfixed and amused and smiling. But as the song goes on, the camera just stays on her (and brilliant acting from a 10? year old actress) and as it goes on she starts to realize the song is too good, too polished and practiced, that it IS a John Lennon song she's never heard. That it IS a song from the future. And she starts shaking as the song goes on, and then breaks down crying because she realizes all the bad things Sam has been warning her about are true. And even 32 years later, Scott Bakula performing the song is forever be ingrained to me as the first version of the song I ever heard, just like his sister. Even though the song was 20 years old even then, I was young enough that I just had not heard it before, and I got the exact same experience as the character in the show, and that's maybe why the memory has stuck so strongly with me. The Beatle song you've never heard before.

It's nice to know that if I ever wake up in a universe where Brandon Sanderson is an accountant, I have his permission to rewrite Mistborn.

I enjoyed the movie John Carter(never read the books). I think the scene where he is fighting the other tribe of Tharks and is reliving the death of his family is one the best done scenes from any movie. That scene alone I think makes the movie for me.

What if a lot of todays movie flops are actually the result of such a time traveler? What if 2002's "Pinocchio" was so heart renderingly perfect that Luke Gorgeous had to hamstring it to save Star Wars Episode II?

First off, calling Uwe Boll's movies "mediocre" would be a VAST improvement. Second off, I had the "John Carter Effect" happen when I watched "Casablanca". I remember thinking it was cliché, but it actually created most of the tropes that are now common. Third off...Winnie from "The Wonder Years"! A first crush for many young men who grew up in the 80's, including myself. Danica McKellar still does Hallmark movies, but she's still Winnie to me!

I thought the "John Carter Effect" was to have a movie bomb due to incredibly terrible marketing.

John Carter needs to be revisited as a franchise. The 2012 movie's underrated.

The countdown to LaLa Land spoilers was so fast that I almost ran off the road trying to pause the video 🤣 then like 5 minutes later I forgot why I had paused, and unpaused the video, hearing the spoiler about the ending 🤣 whoops

I had to look up Jake Shimabukuro to see what Brandon was talking about, and now I know Dan is wrong in two ways: 1) It was that good 2) George Harrison loved the uke. He would buy them in batches to give away. He would break them out at parties. He left them at other people's houses because, " you never knew when you would need one." So he would definitely approve.

I think the original version of the Yesterday script could have worked far better if it focused on that original problem of the guy knowing objectively he has gold and trying to succeed with it to the detriment of those around him. Listening to this I imagined a scene where he's basically at the end of his rope trying to break in with the Beatles's music and has a love interest basically asking him if it's not enough that she and their friends and family all enjoy the music before he finally "comes to his senses" so to speak and decides to just give it up. Maybe the story could end on a somewhat happy note where one of the 4 other people who remember the Beatles is a music studio executive who doesn't have the talent to recreate the music. The executive knows the music won't take off like it did before but maybe just gives the guy a chance to record albums of it anyway so the music has the opportunity to exist in the world again. The story could end on a bit of an unhappy but hopeful note where the protagonist doesn't get the success he wanted but his friends and family all love the music anyway and it gets to exist in the world again, if not at the same level of popularity as it did before.

The fact that Dan uses Pride and Prejudice as his touchstone in a conversation about romantic comedy just cracks me up so much. 😂 Like yes, technically? But comparing all of romantic comedy to a regency romance is a crazy high bar.

Also have either of you watched The Chosen and would you consider discussing it? The biggest draw to me, aside from the faith element, is the excellent character work and relationships.

One of my favorite moments: When Brandon can't for the life of him remember the title of We are Never (Ever) Getting Back Together. In honor of their tangents to tangents I paused this several times to do things like watch the Ukulele Weeps and the Pop-Korn mashup. They are amazing! I don't know if the Ukulele Weeps is 'better' than the original, but it certainly joins the pantheon of great covers. (I also love the Kubo sitar version) The new melody for Coming Undone with the Never (Ever) riff is brilliant.

what a funny clapback haha "You're statistically improbable!"

Lmao I love that Adam placed the channel logo of Brandon’s face right on top of Brandon’s actual face at the end 😂😂

Jake Shimabukuro is amazing. I remember listening to him play live and the amp was awful that they gave him, but his talent STILL blew me away.

YO this feels absolutely surreal, listening to you guys talking about mashups. It's funny because that's something I've been idly making on the side myself. Granted mine are just weird, esoteric nonsense because of this balance of "doing the funny" and "actually legitimate grooves" that I try to cultivate with it. Things that would make 2022 an even more incredible year for me than it already is: getting two awesome, established authors to listen to meme humor. We live in a society. The idea for a Trance Hawaiian genre sounds exactly like something I could put together, if I weren't trying to use all my spare time to better myself as a writer, finish my first book ever, and hopefully become a published author in the near-ish future so I can have 'being creative' as a full-time job. It genuinely sucks not having enough hours in the week to accomplish all of my goals while also allowing myself a healthy work-life balance. But I feel that creative fire in me and I genuinely hope I'm on the best path possible. Brandon, you're seriously helping cultivate GOOD writing with this channel. I could never thank you enough!

The sad, but more realistic romantic movie ending is why I love “Spanglish”! And, OF COURSE, BRANDON LIKES “The 2 Good People Don’t Always Make a Good Couple” story line! Hello Shallan & Kaladin and Waxillium & Marasi!

Ahhhhh my favorite podcast returns!!!!

The song Brandon was thinking about is "We Are Coming Undone," and it's a mashup of Taylor Swift "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and Korn "Coming Undone." And yes, it is REALLY good. It's one of my favourite mashups, too xD

I posted a couple months back about my gf leaving and ending up homeless. Just to update those of you who left kind words, things are much better now! Thanks for the words of encouragement!

His name is Jake Shimabukuro, for those who were wondering. He does some fun stuff on a ukulele

Bad story idea made me think about "Be Kind, Rewind" (which I really like). No time travel or nefarious motives but centres on making low budget versions of classic movies.

24:00 money doesn't buy happiness but it sure allows you to remove all the things in your life that could prevent happiness.

Jake's ukulele version of my guitar gently weeps is spectacular, I still go back to listen periodically. I also really enjoy 21 pilots behind the scenes version of I can't help falling in love with you. Though that is definitely his amazing vocals paired with the ukulele. I enjoyed John Carter but that was coming into it with no knowledge of the books or advertising (I had no idea it was out till we hit the theatre and watched it on a whim). It definitly was not mind blowing but it was fun and that can be enough!

The biggest example I've seen of the John Carter effect is the Valerian movie It also happened to Dune with the 84 movie, but that was kind of undone by Dannis Villeneuve to a certain extent

I'm going to need some mash-up playlists from Brandon and Dan.

There’s no doubt in my mind if I woke up in a world missing Brandon Sanderson. I don’t think I could replicate the works of his Cosemere projects and others lol I would just have to carry the thematic values of Mistborn and the like with me haha

All I want for Christmas is a book series about this Luke Gorgeous cinema villain.

I would love it if you added links in the description to things you specifically reference 😁

My favourite Song Mashups - kzfaq.info/sun/PLXuKv7H_fi1MOXdocbeA0gMmp1LKt1vsE

The idea of the original work being disliked for being "derivative" of later works I believe is called "Seinfeld is Unfunny" on TVTropes

I’ve never watched the wonder years, but you talking about the main character meeting up with his younger love later in life reminds me of Amazon Prime’s version of Around the World in 80 Days

Hey, I'm actually that Statistically Improbable person who's getting married (next week!) to the girl he's dated since 14. Thanks for the shoutout Dan!

Dan's takes were completely on-point for me this time. I haven't seen any of these films, but I would definitely watch and enjoy Dan's versions.

Re: Yesterday, i would recommend the movie "Searching for Sugarman", its like a real life version of where the discussion ended up

Hahaha! That's hilariously fun! I'm that 1% Our mothers were best friends in high school and so we knew each other our whole lives. We had crushes on one another for so long, but our mothers were so against us getting together. We both went off to have our own lives and then came back together in our thirties and married.

The southern gentleman accent made me think of Doc Holiday from Tombstone, who was absolutely amazing. It's a shame they didn't go in that direction.

i would love to see you two discuss more Richard Curtis films especially his movement through all his styles over time

The attitude Dan cops about the ukulele is hilarious.

Hah, I also shut off La La Land at the opening scene going "I can't do this - it's nonsense" - and then I later watched it and loved it - had they cut out the completely pointless dancing scenes (not singing) that didn't do anything for the movie but pad the runtime I would probably consider it a masterpiece.

The best mashup I have ever heard is a mashup of "Down with the Sickness" by Disturbed and "Little Talks" by Of Monsters and Men. It is called Little Sickness and it is such a delightful clash of styles

Re: Hawaiian Lounge beats. I'm sorry to say that its super rare and hard to find but theres a brilliant album released around 2000 called "Frozen Hawaii" which seems to be a remix album by a Japanese sound engineer who goes by "Pardon Kimura" If you can track this down, its pretty much spot on, a bit ambient, a bit hip hop and dub remixes of Hawaiian classics. It may be out of print, but seems to pop up on discogs sometimes.

The real question of the hour is which Neil Cicirega mashup album is the best???? Mouth Silence or Dreams are tied up for me. I hope he makes another one

The Cover of My Guitar Gently Weaps Lana Del Rey did for Kubo and the Two Strings soundtrack was a-mazing!

I'm gonna be a tear drop in the ocean here...but Down With the Sickness v Shape of You is an A+ mash up! Also that ukulele version of well My Guitar Gently Weeps is Gawd Tier

Jake Shimabukuro! His ukulele skills are truly out of this world.

There is a movie "Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel" that is kind of similar to that horrible story idea. It focuses on localized time problems caused by the time traveler arriving more than the hows and whys of what they are doing, though.

i went to an edd shearan concert when he was just starting out (he opened for snow patrol) and he literally composed a song on stage with a repeter it was really cool to be there for.

This feels like an episode going back to your roots with all these disjointed tangents.

The suck fairy attacked one of my favorite movies when I was young: The Slipper and The Rose. It’s a Cinderella musical adaption that gives Prince Charming far more character than Cinderella.

What I really wanted from Yesterday was any sort of explanation for the missing things, and I was hoping for a butterfly effect answer. Like, he realized cigarettes don't exist, which could be connected to the Beatles never doing drugs so they never formed a band, IDK. What's the connection to cigarettes, the Beatles and Harry Potter? I wanted to find that a single person or event was erased and that was the world they now lived in.

I talk about the Suck Fairy all the time with friends. It's the reason I will never watch Ice Pirates or Time Bandits again, they are awesome just living in my memory.

I loved John Carter simply due to it being such a great example of science fantasy. Most science fantasy is like 90/10 sci-fi/fantasy, but John Carter felt more 50/50. I just want more Sci-Fan

“I’m a bad person who like sad things…” yeah I felt that way after finishing RoW

I heard the word "mashup" and instantly thought of Isosine, glad they got there eventually

You guys should talk about LOFI music and how popular it’s becoming with 24/7 LOFI KZfaq channels

regarding dan's comment about hearing a song in a mashup first, i tend to do that with acapella music. I'll hear a song the first time as an acapella cover, and usually end up preferring the cover, especially when its a medley or mashup of some kind

Give that Brandon enjoys musicals so much I need to know which of his books would make the best musical adaptation.

Do you guys plan on taking about house of the dragon? I know Brandon doesn’t like grimdark much, but it’s a damn good show

Bastille has the best mash up - a cover of Cant Stop by Miley Cyrus, arranged so the bridge of the song is Achey Brakey Heart by Billy Ray Cyrus. The lyric “only god can judge us” is changed to “only dad can judge us” and on top of all that, the intro to the song is the intro to Lose Yourself by Eminem

Phew! I've finally cought up. And in all that time only one half mention of Ted Lasso. Speaking of a feel good show! Has Brandon seen it? Are we gonna get a discussion of season 1 and season 2?!

Yoshida Brothers?

I switched to my alt account specifically to comment on this one. The John Carter movie is still pretty decisive to fans of ERB, you hit the nail on the head, the movie didnt do john carter the character proper justice, and as a standalone sci fi it just wasnt enough of a standout with the rash of subpar big budget sci fi movies in that time (see jupiter rising). But it just didnt feel like sword and planet.

33:10 I searched for multiple versions of ukulele 'while my guitar gently weeps' and while not as good as the original piece (imo) almost all of them were pretty dang good and beautiful in their own way. Split between Dan and Bran on this matter.

That original yesterday script does sound interesting and you weren't even trying to sell it. I think a good comedic actor could sell it as a comedy.

Anyone know why this was taken down a few hours ago, then reuploaded just now?

With all the content everywhere these days, I think all of us are quick to judge what we want to watch. I initially did not think this podcast would interest me that much, but caught myself really looking forward to an episode this week. Haha I know its a kinda weird praise, but I'm trying to say I've come to really love these discussions so keep it up :-) Years ago I watched a video essay on vimeo called "The Unloved - John Carter" by Scout Tafoya, that video never really left me since I was quite a fan of the film when it came out, would have loved to see what the sequel would have looked like. Your thoughts on the topic really made me reminisce.

I just found the As my guitar gently weeps ukulele video and OH MY GOD

You know, Yesterday actually has a much nicer premise hidden inside: it's not the second chance magically given to the unknown singer Jack Malik, it is a second chance magically given to John Lennon. Malik (and others) are just accidental bystanders to John Lennon being able to live another life.

my first novels that got me engaged in recreational non assigned reading were Michael Chrichton's Jurrassic Park and Congo at the time i really liked Jurrassic Park but ultimately I found Congo much more riveting (i was 12,13 at the time) and thought the hyper intelligent gorillas that used weapons were much scarier than the velociraptors of JP... but in my adulthood i found that Jurrassic park has stood the test of time much better as a cautionary tale about rushing forward with unproven technology and Congo was visited by the suck fairy it wasn't as scary as i remembered and didn't have as much to say and the technology envisioned didn't hold up against actual technological developments.

Basically everyone in my Senior High School class married someone from that class. At our recent 20 year reunion, we discovered that all but 10 of the married people were married to people from our class, 4 married someone from a class older or younger. Of the literal 120+ couples from my Sr class, only 2 were couples in highschool, and one of those got together at the end of our senior year, the other couple had been together since like 7th grade.

I always thought the end of Yesterday was going to have some of the original Beatles come forward and say, “hey this guy is performing our music.” And then they would show their original versions. I agree that the movie didn’t have a good enough conflict for the main character.

So about song writing competiton... In Turkey Bağlama players make that competition and some times for making it harder they even ban certain letters. It is great everyone should check it out.

Have you seen the version of “Why do you write like you’re running out of time” from Hamilton that is a tribute to you?

Regarding Ukelele chillhop: Cody G. - Ukelele and Chill (1 hour) Enjoy the cruise guys!

Lol when i saw Yesterday in the title I thought you were going to talk about thw kickstarter

Video game music mashup I really like: DRV3 Scrum Debate and Pokemon SwSh Gym Leader theme.

When I watched Yesterday I came away feeling that the thesis of the film was that great art is important but that the fame that comes when you create great art is not important (not bad necessarily, just not important). But I think they got a little lost/distracted from their themes at times. I seem to recall a throw away line in the film where it is revealed people have forgotten about cigarettes. Why was this important to the story? The fact that this made past the various edits a film invariably goes through seems to lend a certain credence to Dan's statement about the film not knowing what it is trying to say or where it is trying to go.

F*ck B*itchez Get Euros is an AMAZING mash-up album

When they talk about mashups, I have to wonder if either has ever heard anything from Silvagunner. Probably a bit young and esoteric, but I think at least Brandon would enjoy Athletic Theme(PAL verison)

I haven't watched John Carter since I saw it in theaters. I liked it then, I wonder if I would now.

Takeaway-I want to the reality where “the most Dan movies” get made!

Yesterday.....had a really good soundtrack! My daughter liked it more than I did because she loved the What If.

Isn't this kind of the premise behind Jasper Fforde's Thursday Next series?

You should look up the version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps from the credits of Kubo and the Two Strings. ( You should look up that movie btw! It's beautiful! ❤)

What if Luke Gorgeous changed Star Wars, but it reached popular acclaim in the way The Room did?

The best mashup is Ribs by Neil Cicierega

If you like mashups you should check out the Wax Audio channel with, among other things, that absolute classic Thunder Busters.

Man I want to see the original screen play for Yesterday

This bad story idea kinda reminds me of the movie 'The History of Time Travel'.

I'm pretty sure there is a manga about a group of people becoming the beetles via timetravel or something like that

Re : musicians don’t challenge each other to composing in one hour, check out Andrew Huang and Rob Scallon’s videos from a while back “composing a song in under an hour”

The Zorro effect is the opposite. The Zorro effect is where a story is retold but altered each time. The net effect of this is the protagonist becomes diminished by making his opponents more bafoonish and less belligerent with each retelling. Zorro starts as an amazing swordsman putting his life on the line for others. And moves to the much lower stakes of an average man dealing with idiots.

Screaming at this video Peter Menard Author of the Quijote by Borges while they talk about Yesterday

I like John Carter, but they definitely overdid the earthlings have super strength bit.

What you're looking for is Hawaiian slack key guitar. Most is instrumental. Try Ledward Kaapana or Keola Beamer among many

dang didnt expect an isosine reference