Comparison of two machines. Both function, run and drive. The devil is in the details.
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@MichaelTJD606 жыл бұрын
Good video. I'm kind of on the lookout for a "bad" 318 to fix up. If you pay attention to the mechanical quirks instead of focusing on cosmetics, sometimes you can still sell a "bad" tractor for a good chunk of money. A cracked seat or scratched up hood doesn't really bother me when looking for a tractor...if the engine runs good with no leaks or blowby, the rest of the drivetrain is sound, and all shields/guards are in place and intact, it may still be profitable.
@craigjordan99692 жыл бұрын
Ok
@Reeser00 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Prices have definitely gone up in 2022. I just spent over $200 putting V61 on my 318. I have a 1990 and my OCD is kicking in as more paint keeps flaking off😬. The tractor runs great so far! New to me this year.
@caydengordon31464 жыл бұрын
I got myself a $100 318 in the condition of the “good” 318 with a 50 inch deck and she drove home
@BarlitosC Жыл бұрын
😢
@bradvaughan45246 жыл бұрын
I paid $400 for a non running 318 several years ago. Ended up with a broken rod but amazingly no wear on the cylinders. I’m still trying to decide if I’m capable of doing a complete rebuild like you did a couple years ago or just buy repower kit. My 316 I completely restored but I was lucky enough for it to be running and has great compression. The sound and power of the Onan is fantastic but still weighing my options for the 318.
@HB-yq8gy4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very good points! I'm glad my neighbor after his passing gave me his 1988 332 JD with all the attachments. 50 ' deck, plow & material collection system. The refurbished radiator was very hard to find on E bay at $525 with shipping. Dealer wanted $910 for new one! So far invested about $800 & still gotta put deck on & mule together plus repair hood & all covers.
@urbanitesgarage3299 Жыл бұрын
Awesome do you still happen to have it
@HB-yq8gy Жыл бұрын
@@urbanitesgarage3299 I sold it for $2500 in 2021 with everything because I was afraid it will break down & cost me a ton to fix at diesel mechanic rate. I got my money back total investment $1900 paint & bondo. But not the time spent. All the hydraulic lines on the engine looked dry rotten. All other hydraulic hoses going back & diesel tank pick up tube were all original. The water pump started leak very little. Plus parts are very expensive & hard to find. Sometimes it's best to walk away eventhough it was free.
@Kevin-fw5fq6 жыл бұрын
Awesome info from an expert. Appreciate these videos, keep em coming!
@mmrbeef6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Expert..... I doubt I would be considered an expert but just trying to share some of the stuff I have learned!
@JunkyardTailgate6 жыл бұрын
Good comparison vid on JD 318’s. I didn’t know those things about the JD 425 that was “given” to me and in the end a zero acquisition cost it was not a bargain!
@mmrbeef6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yet, even knowing that now its hard to turn down a free machine!! I know I couldn't!
@wpowerwagon5 жыл бұрын
Yep, I bought a 1972 140 JD, I paid 150.00, then I bought the 1500.00 18 hp bs vg, 195.00 rear tires, 125.00 front tires, 150.00 new JD seat, 125.00 conversation to h3, 300.00 to rebuild deck and 100.00 new deck belts, love this little machine, it’s a work horse, and bought some other things as well, I have owned it for 24 years, I have also bought the loader attachment, 3 point, dozer blade, front custom bumper, 4 rear weights, 4 front weights, 4 suitcase weights, duel wheel adapters for the rear, yep got a ton of money in it,
@dougbarber42096 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the helpful tips
@rachellebourne65554 жыл бұрын
Nice videos but I have a questions / problem. Just purchased a 318 to which I have replaced the driveshaft joints along with a new "split" yoke. My issues is that I still have a vibration. Do you have anything for me to look for. Also, it has the P218 engine but the "id" tag on the engine is missing therefore, do you have any knowledge on how to find the serial numbers, etc. Thanks again for your help.
@jeremyaldrich28893 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. I currently bought a 86 JD 318 and everything worked as it should and i was wondering since it has a small minor crack on the frame rail where the frame curls and it bolts to the axle. do you know what may have caused that since the frame is very heavy duty. possible just a weaker point in the metal?
@johnnyfastt4 жыл бұрын
Good video. What’s a good price on a working 44 loader attachment?
@cadenwarren8996 жыл бұрын
Our 318 we bought was repainted runs like a charm came with a front blade four wheel drive tires...i wish it had 2 wheel drive tires and bought it for eather 1200 or 15
@tchogworks19872 жыл бұрын
I replaced my rear tires with atv tires . Big knobbys ! Made a world of difference. I’ve got a step hill I mow and Tuff tires was totally out of the question The Ag bar tire really wouldn’t pull that good and I was spinning destroying the grass causing erosion. Not with the atv tires . They bite and go
@richsmith90634 жыл бұрын
Excellent video ! Thanks !
@robertduncan27424 жыл бұрын
I've always repaired things way before making one pretty or basically anything. I dont add a bunch of dollars when it's a hobby but some yes. The 318s are a nice unit
@steiger2566 жыл бұрын
Your right. I have bought a few Cub Cadets that need some work. If I were to fix them up I would have 5 times the money in th ed m as if I got a nice one. Parts are expensive. I usually buy the rare ones in a little rough condition for parts for when I find a good one. Nice video
@mmrbeef6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I have been there many times myself! Good parts are very expensive at times.
@thedailybench25275 жыл бұрын
Is this a good deal? Thinking about purchasing this
@tinmanstavern5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information! Im going to look at one soon
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@tinmanstavern5 жыл бұрын
@@mmrbeef thank you!
@johndeerfan55994 жыл бұрын
I was mowing with my 318. The next day I started up my 318 and it was making a very loud clicking noise in the engine. I'm not sure where the noise is coming from. What you think it might be?
@mmrbeef3 жыл бұрын
It could be many many things.... stick caught in the flywheel, broken engine tin, PTO issue, side panel is loose... or it could be more serious like valves, a rod among many other potential issues. Wish I could help more, just lots of possibilities.
@cadenwarren8996 жыл бұрын
On my 318 i have notice i can put a switch for pto for tiller on back and found a pto but does the pto start moving when mower starts?
@alwaysopen79705 жыл бұрын
Mine ha
@frydaddy19845 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any different coils that will work on a John Deere 317 Kohler kt17 engine. Original equipment is over $100 just trying to save some money Thanks
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
You might try to find one on eBay? I am not sure of the answer to your question.... I'm sure someone on Mytractorforum.com could help you out.
@LawnGardenFun6 жыл бұрын
My Dad has a 318 with 3-point hitch option but he needs the lower arms. Do you know where to buy lower arms? How much value does the 3-point option add?
@mmrbeef6 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Bill Reugg? He (at least at one time) sold 3 point parts. In my book the 3 point already on a 318 adds about $200 to the value.
@erbewayne68682 жыл бұрын
There is a independent mfgr in central Ohio south of US30 that makes parts may be the same person.
@wpowerwagon5 жыл бұрын
Hi, what did you say the rib front tires were on the 318 that is closes to you ?
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
They are V61's
@owellabs2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1985 318 with a backhoe and front loader..Nice little beast
@mmrbeef2 жыл бұрын
That is a very nice combo. If it is a Brantly backhoe that is a very rare attachment. Not a lot of backhoes were sold for the 300 series. Congrats.
@owellabs2 жыл бұрын
@@mmrbeef I lucked out with this combo. I did put a bit of work into it and repairs to get it up to standards but it was worth it. I designed my own tilt steering wheel so i could turn around in the seat to the backhoe. Works great.
@floolsen9844 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your videos, wondered if you could comment on my problem. I have a 318 JD Onan 9S23 engine that needs to be about 1/4 choke inorder to run. I have checked the fuel lines and filter and they are good. What would your recommend i do next? I have 9 various JD mowers and this is the only one that has this problem so I am stumped.
@mmrbeef4 жыл бұрын
I would take the carb and give it a good clean, at the same time I would inspect all the linkages for the choke and throttle.
@m.l.737 Жыл бұрын
Cracked inlet manifold ? Your question is now 3 years old… but I’m interested … in my experience it sounds like a leaking inlet manifold!? Regards from Germany
@ibinyth58666 жыл бұрын
@mmrbeef Any chance you can help me diagnose why my 318 won't start? battery is reading like it has good voltage turn the key no dash lights come up and it doesn't even click or anything.. not a sound
@mmrbeef6 жыл бұрын
My first thought is check all the safety switches and the fuses.
@ibinyth58666 жыл бұрын
mmrbeef Just going to start with the key switch then work my way through fuses and censors
@66Oliver6 жыл бұрын
Though I’m not talking about a garden tractor, the concept is the same for most other equipment. I just recently purchased an Oliver 1950 with a Detroit for a few thousand dollars, and absolutely NOTHING works. I’ll spend at least $15-20,000 in the machine, getting it back to what it was in ‘67.
@mmrbeef6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! My 820 for instance.... Paid on the low side of fair market value but now I have more than it's worth in it..... And a lot more work to do. My only justification is that it's a fun machine!
@jackolson64795 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the 322?
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
Great machines! They sound like a sewing machine! The little Yanmar can have some expensive ignition and coil issues but those are relatively rare. Overall really good machine and one I would like to have a nice example of.
@richarddexter44235 жыл бұрын
At work we have jd 178 p and 355 d still running well
@paulg4444 жыл бұрын
I went with the 316, that power steering system scared me.
@jamesrollins31995 жыл бұрын
Wanted a 318 for so long They are all basically the same right? The frame on a 420 is a serious beast. It is definitely more rough and tumble. Hate it it the 420 is so hated just because the front end is wider. Because of attachments. The front PTO on my 420 can power a 8000 watt generator if you can fabricate the shafts (same knuckle fabricated yoke) . The rear pto if installed properly and piped can power nearly anything. The hydraulics can extend to the PTO power to operate damn near anything someone can dream up.
@jasonhewitt80053 жыл бұрын
I purchased a 318 from a guy yesterday, for $700. Won't run unless the choke is on and the deck hydraulics are frozen up. Cosmetically it's in good shape, everything is there, but I'm hoping I didn't overspend. Hopefully, it's just a gunked-up fuel filter and I haven't worked on hydraulics before, so this will be a first for me. The guy told me it hadn't been used in 3 years. He was the original owner, so I suppose that's a plus.
@robertduncan27424 жыл бұрын
I'd sure like to find one for my 420 but everything is just so costly. Maybe I'll check a 318
@jackolson64795 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the suspension seat and what is it called?
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
There is an OEM suspension seat that you can buy used or rebuilt on eBay. The one I have is from a gentleman that used to build them new. He has not in several years but they are great seat bases. I highly recommend the suspension seat to anyone with a 300-400 series.
@jackolson64795 жыл бұрын
@@mmrbeef Thank you Sir, great video you saved me about $1900 from buying this one that had claimed that had "400 hours on it" when I could see that the hour meter was replaced and all of the things that were in your video were worn down I said no thank you to the deal and left. Thanks again for the video's they are sweet! Keep em coming!
@Roostertailin5 жыл бұрын
Bought a 1984 JD 316 for 350 that sat for years with no hour meter. As it turns out it had one of the last Onans made as a "Linamar" replacement and the internals look new(probably low hours). For about 700 dollars total I have a fully repainted, fully repaired, running and mowing 316 that you can see in my profile picture. Best garden tractor I have ever had. Guess I got lucky...
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
Nice! Sounds like a great machine you have.
@jamesrollins31995 жыл бұрын
One thing negative to say, with the deck on (60 in driveshaft etc) is more than 1100 pounds. You will not move it without a couple cases of twinkies. It rolled down my slightly inclined driveway in just a second or two it was going so fast I barely caught it. Jumped on the right side and jammed my foot on the brakes and nothing happened. You gotta apply alot of force one the brakes if this mustagh gets away from you
@erbewayne68682 жыл бұрын
Did you use the lever near the right rear tire which disengages the drive to the wheels?
@jamesoneill28756 жыл бұрын
Where you located? Let me get one of those 318s. Haha
@jonathanwhite90516 жыл бұрын
When shopping for a 318 , what’s the cap for hours on the meter? I really like 318’s because of their size and implement options and affordability but I’m afraid of a money pit because of age and hours on a machine. Great videos!
@jonathanwhite90516 жыл бұрын
Im sorry I wanted to clarify when I meant "Cap" on hours on the meter I meant what is the highest amount of hours before you would say this machine is too old? Is there an average that they last? Thanks and sorry for the double comment
@mmrbeef6 жыл бұрын
I don't think there is necessarily a cap on the hours on the meter. Meters can be replaced and keys can be left on. The Onan life span in a 318 will boil down to care and maintenance (500-2000+hrs). Any of the 300 and 400 series machines are great economical units that with a little bit of time and work can last for many many years. Just take your time shopping. I need to do a video telling the story about my second 318. What a disaster that was!!!
@mikejoyce37826 жыл бұрын
You bought a disaster ? ? ?
@jonathanwhite90516 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the reply and advice!
@LawnGardenFun6 жыл бұрын
For less money and more options in the same year range you can get a Simplicity Sunstar with the 20HP. It has hi/lo transmission, locking differential, shaft driven implements and better headlights. Same options as the 318 like power steering, split brakes. Down side they are ugly as sin. Actually, money might be closer now than say 5 years ago.
@wadeshull8227 Жыл бұрын
best lawn tractor ever made ...There is no such thing as a bad 318 ...It is worth more paying to have one rebuilt than it is to go buy a new lawn mower from anyone....
@mmrbeef Жыл бұрын
To answer your question about the rear mounting bolts. The oil pan is threaded and you just need a 14 or 15 mm socket and ratchet w/ extension to take them out. In some cases someone has used a nut and bolt. Then it becomes very difficult to remove them, but that is not OEM.
@kris19314 жыл бұрын
LOL. You'll never see a $500 running 318 around here.
@floolsen9844 жыл бұрын
Thank you I'll have him try that.
@rudythe34 жыл бұрын
Good video and advice that makes sence, but low cost on the tractors. I really doubt you can find a 318 for under 500, even as ruff of a shape as the one in the back you find it for more then that.
@mmrbeef4 жыл бұрын
I think it really depends on where you find them. I've bought lots of $500 318's over the years.. I think the least I have ever paid for one was $200. But I've also paid a lot more for 318's. You just really have to give them a good look over and then come up with the price. Plus, as I have tried to say often, price is relative, if the buyer and seller are both happy not too much more matters.
@MA.CUTLER5 жыл бұрын
Flyball spacer? How do you know if it needs one? What do you look for?
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
Here is the first is a series that should help answer your questions. If you have more feel free to ask! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m56nqJyDscDYfYU.html
@MA.CUTLER5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Excellent vids
@markbooth76576 жыл бұрын
Is that an 80 cart in the background
@mmrbeef6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a Model 80 Cart sitting on the shelf.
@GuysPlayingWithTools2 жыл бұрын
Good video, people don't realize how easy it is to get "nickel and dimed" to death"
@bigwheelsturning5 жыл бұрын
If it's so bad, why did you buy it?
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
Because it was cheap and I was looking for a project. My point is don't go spend $1,500 on the "bad" 318 with the same money will get you a better machine.
@BarlitosC Жыл бұрын
So was my $25 shit box that’s completely shot a good deal??
@mmrbeef Жыл бұрын
If it ran it probably was.
@Cody-ye3ye4 жыл бұрын
That other 318 is it pretty rough shape
@jamesrollins31995 жыл бұрын
It simply ran out of steam to my good fortune
@truckinchihuahuaalvieschre24945 жыл бұрын
Good video. However when you said this machine didn't need anything because you've owned it sense 2012. It looks like it could use a seat
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
Good point. I do have a nice pristine seat for it that sits on a shelf. On the rare chance (once so far) it goes to a show I swap them out. A cracked seat for some reason doesn't bother me when it's at home.
@missionron5 жыл бұрын
I have my eye on a jd400...that is going to need a rebuild. Guy sais when he switches the mowing deck on, the motor boggs down. 3800 hours. He is asking $1500. Is he out to lunch?
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
Rebuilding engines takes a lot of time and could be expensive. I personally think $1,500 is high BUT if you have to do what makes you happy. Sometimes I over pay.... because it makes me happy in the end.
@chrissyeaston59024 жыл бұрын
Swedish Holmberg 400s are obsolete junk stfa from them buy a 425
@douglasjones88655 жыл бұрын
you shouldn't move the hydro lever when tractor is not running
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
Why?
@normanjudge81245 жыл бұрын
@@mmrbeef norman
@jamesrollins31995 жыл бұрын
I am not a 420 lover, I have an lx188 that is simply not up to the task. I got it for 150 to mow the grass. I rebuilt that one. There is a 400 ft deep trail that needs be made passable. The poor lx188 can do it. Clearly something else is needed. 318's go not running for 500 bucks. I have had to learn alot about john deere in the last few years. So when I got this 420 for 500. I knew what I was getting myself into with this beast
@m.l.737 Жыл бұрын
Hello! Here in Germany they sold in bad shape for 3000 US dollar ….
@mmrbeef Жыл бұрын
I’m sure they are very expensive. I wish the US market had access to some of the models Deere offers in the EU.
@m.l.737 Жыл бұрын
@@mmrbeef that’s true I could say the same for some of your cars
@ryanfinnerty7145 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the time you put into this. I just recently started looking for a 318 and doing initial research. Your videos are everything I was looking for to be an educated buyer! Please continue to make videos and PM me an email address I can paypal a small donation too.
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
Glad you found the videos helpful. If you want to drop me an email mmrbeef@gmail.com feel free.
@blakelinstedt63684 жыл бұрын
Do you have a john deer 320
@PhatboyHD886 жыл бұрын
See for me personally (My Opinion) ill take a Kohler series 2 or magnum 18 over a Onan any day of the week,,, they take much more of a beating and last many more hours ,,, just my opinion ,, plus cast iron cylinders ,, many perks without all the things like rods and valve guides ya have to worry about with onan ,, but that is just me.. plus on my 317 a Dana rear end lol does it get any better lol
@michaelmactavish17286 жыл бұрын
i know all about the rediculas price at the deere dealers here in canada wich why i love kubotas best quality built and parts are alot cheaper
@jhitt795 жыл бұрын
PhatboyHD88 it does get better than the Dana 20 rear. A Cub Cadet Rear!
@tinmanstavern5 жыл бұрын
The 317 has a dana??? Woah that's cool
@dalemaloney2555 жыл бұрын
I aquired 2 complete 318 tractors, john deere. plus one whole motor! need to buy some parts for them. want to rebuild 2 anyway. where do you buy the mains? need some std mains. thanks for the help! enjoy your show here!
@gregolson55325 жыл бұрын
Both of my 317's have a Sundstrand transmission just like all the 300 series John Deere tractors. I believe the 318 was mated to a peerless differential as opposed to a 317 with a Dana GT-20 differential. One of my 317's has the Kohler KT17 series 2 and the other has the P218G replacement. I am with PhatboyHD88 I prefer Kohler and have a couple magnum's just waiting to go in something!
@m.l.737 Жыл бұрын
Add…. Also the spare parts are much more expensive
@jamesrollins31995 жыл бұрын
And before you 318 lovers (like me) come full frontal on me. An odd observation is the nomenclature. Is it not odd that frame dimensions are 20% larger, except in the rear transmission mounts. The steel on the frames is 20% larger. The machine itself is 20% more heavy. the steel frame is about 20% thicker. And the engine was 20 hp. That is starting to smell like a duck.
@jamesrollins31995 жыл бұрын
Moreover, the low end torque on these onan engines is fantastic. even stevens with the yanmar diesel. if my gasoline powered engine stops in the winter a spray of ether will turn it right over. no need to keep it warm. It's a damn simple engine that simply needs maintenance. Now for controlling both. The 420 is called male, and the lx188 is called female. Not like they cannot change genders?, just like today eh? You lock by accident the axle then perhaps you have a nutstang. Gotta be careful with the 420. My lx188 has no worries about that kinda
@mikejoyce37826 жыл бұрын
Yep, paid too much for my non-running 318. Yep, paid too much for my running 318. Probably spent $800 in parts and maintenance alone in the last 18 months on the running unit and still have issues. Yes, no one forced me to buy either one. But hindsight is 20/20. Mentally, I'm ok. It is just my checkbook that is upset (as well as my wife).
@mmrbeef6 жыл бұрын
Been there and done exactly what you are describing! Be patient and you will get there.
@greenyellafella37776 жыл бұрын
I have two 318's myself,the first one I should haven't bought and it's for sale at a loss too me. Mm has taught me a lot through his videos as have others on here but if ya love the hobby and working these old girls,why worry about the over spending here and there? I have probably have 18 machines in my collection right now,not all J D's and I'm just a poor trucker but my machines make me smile. Thanks too ya for sharing mm.
@mikejoyce37826 жыл бұрын
In my younger days on the CB, you have the "voice" of a Trucker. I've worked on machines for many years so there is a voice that keeps talking to me about wrenching stuff. If it wasn't for the checkbook and wife.......... What part of the country are you in?
@greenyellafella37776 жыл бұрын
Mike Joyce I hear ya on the wife thing,I haven't had one of those for about 18 years now. I live in Oskaloosa Ia and run to Phoenix every week,4.5 to 5 day turn around. I do harm my check book or card at times but I only answer to me.
@mikejoyce37826 жыл бұрын
Been with mine for 42+ years......part-time. I traveled a lot. My last corporate job was the 48 states and the Carribean. Leave on Monday. Come back Monday or Tuesday or next week or next month. Probably why we lasted so long. I worked with a sub-contractor in Slidell for a few weeks. Took me 3 days to understand what he was sayin'. I spent a lot of time in LA. There was a restaurant on the North side of the Lake that was only open on weekends. The had everything that swam or crawled or walked or flew on the buffet. Gravel parking lot and wooden picnic tables. YUM YUM. My first travel job was covering the Southeast driving a '64 Rambler. Always got me to the job but not always home.
@jasperedwards33414 жыл бұрын
aving big rear tires makes better traction the newer models dont ave that
@robertduncan27425 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a good 318
@mmrbeef5 жыл бұрын
They are out there. You just have to be patient.
@robertduncan27425 жыл бұрын
@@mmrbeef I found one but cash wasn't there and it had a honda 20hp with 150 hours so like you said I'll just need to watch. I watched a 425 full hydro 3 cylinder I think but those arent cheap. I dont need a monster just a full hydro to help my med issues out and snow cleaning. I'll use my lx176 in the summer.
@mr.astrophysics9115 Жыл бұрын
Na I'll stay with my Craftsman Turn Tight series tractor Kohler 7000 series 22 horsepower 725cc V Twin engine 630 pounds dry weight the engine is Cast iron sleeved came with a 3 year unlimited hours warranty..today's garden tractors the suggested horsepower is 20 to 25
@LawnGardenFun6 жыл бұрын
Have the values dropped big time in the last several years?
@mmrbeef6 жыл бұрын
They have but have seemed to level out in he last 12 months. A couple years ago my base value for a 318 was $2000. Now my base value is $1,000.
@Outdoorsman-iy6ee6 жыл бұрын
mmrbeef not sure how to message you but got a serious inquiry about the 318 private message me if possible
@jamesrollins31995 жыл бұрын
Gosh you are picky! Sounds like my inspections in the 82nd Abn Div. Your tee shirts area half inch long. BTW my budget on my 500 dollar machine is about 1500 dollars, all devoted to 3 point hitch, rear PTO and a blade or something. The skin is nearly perfect. This machine was pampered by the original owner. The other owners allowed the flywheel to rust and simply left it parked in the weather. Not running... no shyte... fuel line to pump..chewed off and gone (ate) by rodents. Stator wire, chewed up and covered in rat excrement. Oil sending wire eaten to the nibbens.
@mikesecondo22543 жыл бұрын
They are money pits!!
@floolsen9844 жыл бұрын
PS: This is actually for my husband Gene. I am not a JD crazylady.
@jamesrollins31995 жыл бұрын
o my very last comment is to search diigently for the service manuals for your machines. Engines transmissions everything you can find . My intention is to restore this 420 that I have. No ability to share videos nor would that be something I need to do. And then perhaps, read all of them over and over and over. Get agressive on your machine, and keep a hand written log on what you have done and your next step. This works on all of life. Seems like a hasssle, I know. Do your best.
@fasfgasdfagadsf5 жыл бұрын
This is what is wrong with john deere people. Pretty over practical. The real questions are: Does it have a rear pto? Which engine does it have? Lanmar or Onan? Has it been repowered? What deck does it have if any? Was it altered? Rear facing hydraulic couplers? Is it safe? The more versatile the machine, the more it is worth. Who cares if the hood is cracked? If if is missing a side pannel? The real question is what is it capable of? What can you do with it? This is the stand alone value of the machine to anybody who wants one. It will till, disk, grade, mow 120", load up to 1000lbs, remove snow up to 3' tall, sweep, thatch, vacuum debris, collect grass, pull wagons, and move trailers. The steering leaks a little and I have to put a quart of transdraulic fluid in once a season. But the value comes in the year round everything use.
@johndoby5 жыл бұрын
I hate to disagree with you (on some things), and I'm not a John Deere guy, but mmrbeef's analysis isn't that far off. Paint does matter. A better paint job is going to do a better job of protecting the metal over time. Tires matter. If the hood is cracked, it's an entry point for water to invite more corrosion. Side panels matter, especially on Onan's. Most of his points are valid, but yes, he did miss some points as you pointed out. I just think it's an exagerrated response to imply there is something wrong with him (and other John Deere owners) because he didn't hit all of those points for you. I appreciate mmrbeef's time and effort to make this video for people that might not know what to look for, so they can make a better decision when buying their equipment.
@jamesrollins31995 жыл бұрын
If you 318 owners want to cry, then go ahead. My 420 can actually run over you in low gear, and further, outrun you in reverse. Stop hating and do some posts.
@chrissyeaston59024 жыл бұрын
james rollins you 420 dummies have the same block the bore and stroke are the same it's the carb that determines the 2 horse diff unless the cam profiles are diff too
@MichaelTJD604 жыл бұрын
420's have pretty much all the same components as a 318 except larger and even more sophisticated...which means there are even more things to look out for when buying a 420...and chances are it will cost even more to fully fix a 420 compared to a 318.