A Grievous Beginning - Tales of the Empire

A Grievous Beginning - Tales of the Empire - Season 1 Eps 1 Reaction

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Ай бұрын

Adam and Jay react, review, riff, and rate the first Elsbeth episode of Tales of the Empire.
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@TheFiddleFaddle Ай бұрын

Hate to say it Adam, but the Singing Mountain Clan owes the Nightsisters nothing. They're not neighbors, they're enemies, and that's entirely on the Nightsisters.

@HeatRaver Ай бұрын

Exactly. The Nightsisters tried to assassinate Dooku, and this was the consequence of it. The Mountain Clan were already risking themselves taking in Morgan, and offering her start a new path, and she repaid them by getting some of them killed.

@malachiphoniex8501 Ай бұрын

Even as powerful as the Mountain Matron might seem, the Mountain Clan wouldn't have changed the outcome of the battle. It's hard to tell when this is occurring in relation to Old Daka's death and Talzin's disappearing act, but since Grievous has his cape on and seems undamaged, I'm guessing this is a clean up action. Thus, the time to jump in and possibly change the tide is long gone.

@glamourweaver Ай бұрын

To be fair, it isn’t clear from this episode that they were enemies. You can maybe piece it together simply from the fact that it’s clear by the end the Mountain Clan are lightside wielders, so there would likely have to at least have been tensions with the Nightsisters as Darkside Force wielders - but the episode doesn’t spell that out.

@lisamarieligreci-newton7804 Ай бұрын

Agreed (and was super pumped to see them come back into canon! Now where are the rancors???). That said, I think the matron could have at least provided a little more grounds for reassurance. She doesn't need to reveal her secrets but I am also the kind of person who is never satisfied by 'it won't happen, it will be all right' without SOME reason to think so. She could at least say something vague like 'we have ancient protections'. Would Morgan have listened, probably not, given that she is more aggressive and also has reason to doubt how well those protections would work. It might have helped the others who had more reason to trust in their ways.

@Adanu191 29 күн бұрын

@@lisamarieligreci-newton7804 Nope. She was owed NOTHING. She's a potential enemy. I'm not giving up secrets of the clan to someone who might turn on us after taking a risk in rescuing her, potentially for redemption.

@HiveFleetOni Ай бұрын

Grievous quietly resuming 2003 anime levels of terrifying.

@aitipsea3909 Ай бұрын

Oop another one, can't go to any post where you lot don't whine about that stuff It's been TWO DECADES ffs

@HiveFleetOni Ай бұрын

@@aitipsea3909 I’m… not sure qualifies as a whine? I think you might be creating your own problem there 🤷‍♀️

@aitipsea3909 Ай бұрын

@@HiveFleetOni Trust me it is, every single time it's "this is the closest to 03 we will ever get!" For such a "terrible rendition of Grievous" I sure do see the same statement over and over again in a lot of different clips over the years

@deanprowell7947 Ай бұрын

@@aitipsea3909 Damn, are you a professional yapper or do you just like to hear your own voice?

@aitipsea3909 Ай бұрын

@@deanprowell7947 well for one I'm writing not speaking so, y'know, not really something to consider And, buddy, this is the Star Wars fandom, people yap about a random background character with 7 seconds of screentime, I'm actually kinda tame compared to other people

@adam1third Ай бұрын

The quality of the graphics is insane. When she picks up that handful of dirt. And all the Fire. The quality is insane

@dylankoch1757 Ай бұрын

I'd rewatched the Malevolence arc the night before just for fun and that made the animation quality stand out even more; freaking incredible how far it's come

@Hudfilmsproductions Ай бұрын

It brought me great joy to see Grievous purging the night sisters

@TheFiddleFaddle Ай бұрын

These other Dathomiri clans were a big part of Legends. I'm so glad to finally see them return to canon.

@davidbergfors6820 Ай бұрын

Return is the wrong term. Legends were never considered canon.

@griffinsummoner Ай бұрын

@@davidbergfors6820 Legends were canon before the sale to Disney. They've never been part of Disney-Canon, but they were part of the pre-'12 EU.

@davidbergfors6820 Ай бұрын

@@griffinsummoner Disney Canon is the same as G-Canon mate. Nothing in Expanded Universe was ever considered Canon by George or Lucasfilm, don't matter of we're talking pre-disney or post.

@TheFiddleFaddle Ай бұрын

@@davidbergfors6820 Legends were in fact 100% canon prior to the Disney acquisition, and there was a whole tiered system, called the Holocron, maintained by Leland Chee, for dealing with inconsistencies between the various media. Google "Star Wars Canon, Expanded Universe, & Legends Explained" if you need a better understanding of it, but I assure you, before they took the Star Wars Expanded Universe and dumped it under the "Legends" moniker in 2014, it was all canon.

@TheFiddleFaddle Ай бұрын

@@davidbergfors6820 Look up the article I suggested. Then look up "Introducing...Leland Chee" on Star Wars' website. This is fact. This is information, not affirmation. Read up on those articles, then respond.

@TheCubert120 Ай бұрын

Don't forget, the Dathmir witches tried to kill dooku first.

@thewerewolff7248 Ай бұрын

This episode is about the danger of giving power to fear. Morgan used the mountain clan's fear of discovery to lead them to take weapons they did not know how to use and be discovered and killed. If they had stayed with the Mother her magic may have been able to drive the separatists away or hide them from discovery entirely. At the very least they'd probably be able to mount a good defence in the mountain rather than going out to territory they're not familiar with to go on the attack. Forcing the Mountain Clan mother out forced her to attack and leave evidence of their existence. The separatists will now know there is still someone powerful on Dathomir which will lead them to double their efforts making it much more likely the mountain clan will be discovered. In manipulating their fear for her vengeance Morgan may well have doomed the Mountain Clan to the same fate as the Nightsisters. Giving power to fear will eventually lead to suffering.

@malachiphoniex8501 Ай бұрын

I wonder what ultimately happened to the Mountain Clan. From A marketing perspective, I doubt they would introduce a new faction on Dathomir just to have them be wiped out immediately after their introduction. I imagine we'll see the survivors again, whether in Ahsoka S2 or some other Mandoverse project.

@bligemonk2283 Ай бұрын

I would argue that the mountain clan watched her clan be wiped out and didn't raise a finger, then told Elspeth to ignore the problem and it would go away.

@madelinegarber7860 Ай бұрын

Thanks for clarifying this. I was also slightly confused by this, but it makes sense now.

@rafaelsantos-nl9jd Ай бұрын

happy to see "light side" Witchs back to canon, they are a thing in legends, but before this only Dark Side Witchs are part of the disney new canon, now we have both again

@SweetSlytherinGirl-Jennifer Ай бұрын

I hate to say it, but I gotta disagree with Adam on this one. Morgan brought this on herself. If she would have just listened, and stayed in the mountains, the ship or drone or whatever wouldn't have seen her and wouldn't have gone after them. And honestly, even if the older woman had explained things to Morgan, do you think she would have listened or believed? I doubt it. When driven by all the wrong things, reason cannot take root.

@malachiphoniex8501 Ай бұрын

Exactly. If the Mountain Matron had explained that she was powerful enough to keep them safe in the mountains, then Morgan would've pushed for them to use that power to go on the attack. While I can totally understand why Morgan would be seeking vengeance, it doesn't excuse her actions or the actions of the Nightsisters. The Nightsisters only look the victims because they're the losers of the conflict.

@bligemonk2283 Ай бұрын

I would argue that the mountain clan watched her clan be wiped out and didn't raise a finger, and then told Elspeth to ignore the problem and it would go away.

@madelinegarber7860 Ай бұрын

Yeah I’m with you on this one. She very well might have lead the mountain clan to their own destrucction.

@houstonhughes184 Ай бұрын

It's so weird that people think that Tales of the Jedi went back and forth between the characters. Baby Ahsoka story, three Dooku stories in a row, two Ashoka stories to close it out.

@Jim_The_Fish Ай бұрын

Right? Like, it was all chronological. The only oddball is the first episode because it’s split away from the other Ahsoka episodes, but I didn’t mind it.

@Ty-yy7zr Ай бұрын

Grievous was great. I, personally, really enjoyed him throughout the clone wars and RotS.

@I.Lostalim Ай бұрын

07:35 - to be fair, the Mountain Clan didnt send assassins after Dooku. They might have been fine 😆 Also the mountain witches are the light to the night sisters dark... If a bunch of Jedi saw Wookies bombing a Sith camp, its not like the Jedi would go save the Sith guys. Mountain clan were probably just sitting there like "meh, brought it on themselves"

@madelinegarber7860 Ай бұрын

Eh I’m on Jay’s side on this. While I do think the clan mother could’ve explained more to Morgan, she brought this down on them by not listening and drawing them out. Also Grievus being high key terrifying was kinda awesome.

@firecat4529 Ай бұрын

2:14 I think this happens during the "Massacre" Clone Wars episode btw.

@buoyantbricks Ай бұрын

This actually takes place during Son of Dathomir, when Grievous wipes out all the nightsisters and not just Talzin’s nightsisters

@aslumeinmate Ай бұрын

@buoyantbricks that's not a thing. The whole Massacre is one event and that's during the Clone Wars ep under the same name. In son of dathomir greivous doesn't wipe out anybody, he just kills mother talzin and several mandalorians

@vincible45 Ай бұрын

Grievous: PURGE THESE WITCHES AND HERETICS!!! Warhammer 40K fans: 😍

@ShannonLynn21 Ай бұрын

I am once again asking for Bad Batch S3 🧓

@adam1third Ай бұрын

Jay would absolutely be able to EMP. His casting stat is charisma.

@TheFiddleFaddle Ай бұрын

I will say one thing I _did_ like about this show is this episode actually managed to make Grievous competent and terrifying.

@The2ndQuest Ай бұрын

That lines up pretty well with the actual Massacre episode from Clone Wars too- that was one of the 2 or 3 episodes where he was allowed to let loose and be more ruthless and more "2D Clone Wars Grievous"-like.

@frostdragon7135 Ай бұрын

Grievous has always been scary when he isn't fighting literal Jedi masters, and even then he has had his moments.

@pseudo2522 Ай бұрын

Considering these are shorts, it would make more sense if you guys watch the whole thing in one day. But that's just my opinion. I just love to see more of your reactions

@superboyprime515 26 күн бұрын

Greviuos was actually scary in this episode,Mountain Clan was pretty cool :)

@Lans32485 Ай бұрын

Oh look, Disney remembered there were supposed to be other witches besides the Nightsisters on Dathomir.

@Davey647Returns Ай бұрын

Great to see Star Wars content on the channel again!

@kevenpinder7025 Ай бұрын

Strength and will and about $125 of Taco Bell.

@jamesfoster9613 Ай бұрын

I am curious if the Mountain Clan (Singing Mountain from Legend continuity) are the same time of force witch as the Nightsisters. Like, are they also from Peridea? Is their type of magic wiped out? Or are they from a different planet there? Nightsisters aren't FULL on dark side in the new canon, but definitely more Necromancer/Enchanter as opposed to the Mountain Clan's abjuration? Like nightsisters can also teleport so...hmm

@georgeirvine4507 Ай бұрын

When are we getting more rebels?

@davidbergfors6820 Ай бұрын

3:40 You joke, but the three episodes of Morgan really was named The path of Fear, anger, and Hate. 6:16 so if the valley tribe was the night sisters, does that make the mountain tribe the Day sisters then? (And people said the nightsister magic wasn't dark side force. Pfft.)

@DerakosZrux 29 күн бұрын

Their reaction to the spirit bomb made me feel better about my reaction lol. I wondered if I was nit picking too much. Wonder how they'll feel about the last episode.....

@alexkramerblogs Ай бұрын

"Hello there"

@fasstaerke Ай бұрын

General Kenobi

@jbmacwalters1283 24 күн бұрын

I was looking for Merrin the entire time!

@zaandarbrow Ай бұрын

Just did my reaction! honestly this is my fav episode lol just cuz of grievous

@benolds2753 Ай бұрын

I’m sure I’m missing something but what happened to the bad batch watch through?

@icehawk86 Ай бұрын

I am not 100% but I feel both clans are enemies. It was out of pity that Morgan was taken in. The leader had no responsibility to disclose what power she had. Morgan should have listened and trusted. They would have been safe.

@mattmyers8471 Ай бұрын

That would be a Grievous mistake

@ItsAce44 Ай бұрын

Im very confused, did they say they'd uploaded bad batch season 3 reactions??

@JonathanMartinez-ei4up Ай бұрын

If we’re talking super powers, I could see Jay having Power Words. He could speak something into reality (Like Rumor, from Umbrella Academy. Or Black Bolt of The Inhumans) Usually Mage characters in Marvel & DC have Power Words. Jay could say “Enough” and E.M.P anything within earshot of his decadent voice. Adam could have some sort of mix of Bishop’s power, and Gambits. If he’s gonna run around with a variety of swords (which we all know he has), then he should be able to charge them up with the energy of Raw Vengence. I’m not sure what Bryan’s power would be, but it’s a good topic for Role For Convo in a Fix It episode. I would like to see you guys pitch an original super hero movie in Fix It. I know you’ve done Marvel & DC films before, but it would be cool to see you guys right your own franchise set in a world of Mutants and Meta Humans.

@Luna-zw6te Ай бұрын

A late happy May the Fourth to you gents🫡

@crimsonknight83 Ай бұрын

Starwarsexplained pointed out the mountain clan is to the light side of the force what the Nightsisters are to the dark side. Just an interesting theory

@kevingt7777 Ай бұрын

Are you Finnishing rebels?

@kevenpinder7025 Ай бұрын

...ever...

@auntvesuvi3872 Ай бұрын

Thanks to Jay and Adam! 📜

@Retkiller 17 күн бұрын

Where is continuation of Rebels?

@The_Scienceboy Ай бұрын

Strictly speaking they’re sickles not scythes.

@RealBLAlley Ай бұрын

But not the POP kind. That'd be painful.

@kevenpinder7025 Ай бұрын

Jay with a lot of CBD - Bendu

@sleeper-cassie Ай бұрын

Weeb powers, activate!

@aprilshighfantasysoul5891 Ай бұрын

Totally with Adam here, but I think it's ok to view this episode the same as viewing the Jedi Council in the prequels - just because the narrative shows someone saying it, doesn't mean that's the "lesson" you should take from the story. When fighting against an oppressive force that just massacred your people, being told 'just ignore it an it'll go away' is a terrible thing to tell a child who just watched her family die. It's the classic Jedi "ignore bad feelings because they make you evil" thought process that leads to those suffering not getting the support and healing they need which leads to them trying to solve the problem themselves in the only way available to them - that usually ends in more violence. The Clan leader didn't need to explain her powers to Elsbeth, but she definitely should have provided a child with more reassurance and proof that they'd be safe in the mountains. And to then abandon that same child in her time of need? No wonder Elsbeth fell down the path she did - it wasn't because 'she gave into fear' it was because no one was there to support her and help her down another path that she could choose based on evidence and reason rather than blind obedience.

@enol1466 Ай бұрын

Soyjack

@natalyiatimoshenkova1273 Ай бұрын

Will be interesting to see what you think of the next two. Morgan's episodes didn't excite me. Nothing *bad* about them, but I didn't find out anything about her I really didn't already know. The second three were much better.

@alwoodsmodellingmayhem 28 күн бұрын

Your super power is being a weeb! Adam is not a weeb! Whatever that is !!😂😂He is force sensitive...actually he is sensitive.!!👍👍😉

@Deliverance253 Ай бұрын

Elsbeth is so in the wrong its not even funny, she has no idea whats really going on. Also i believe this spirit bomb was actually a force repule but im not 100%

@mattmyers8471 Ай бұрын

Grievous

@todddennis523 Ай бұрын

Thanks for reminding us that you're making the Peaches pay to watch the vastly superior Season 3 of The Bad Batch. Only not all of us are rich bitches that can afford Patreon. It's kind of a dick move to put it behind a pay wall. Especially since you posted your reactions to the other seasons of The Bad Batch to KZfaq. I've watched all the episodes of Tales of the Empire, and, frankly, it's a bit of a disappointment compared with the final season of The Bad Batch.

@TmcUnitedMex Ай бұрын

This show was a huge letdown, compared to Tales of The Jedi.

@HarleyQuinn-vb5dm Ай бұрын

I actually quite liked Morgan's episodes. But yeah they did not do Barriss' story justice. And so you are right that it worse overall than TotJ.

@IndianaJake Ай бұрын

@@HarleyQuinn-vb5dm couldn't even finish episode 1 it was so boring

@pwalmsley9 Ай бұрын

I think Morgan's episodes were fine for what they were. Barriss' story...well, I was hoping for something new. That felt like a story we'd seen before somehow.

@TheFiddleFaddle Ай бұрын

This show was quite disappointing. I was hoping for more of an anthology than following a single character I really wasn't invested in.

@IndianaJake Ай бұрын

pretty surprising how garbage this whole show ended up being

@moondog3056 Ай бұрын

No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars "fans"

@Redjack10 Ай бұрын

@@moondog3056It’s hilarious at this point 😂

@IndianaJake Ай бұрын

@@moondog3056 there wasn't a single episode that was actually about the Empire hahahah what a joke of a show

@thewerewolff7248 Ай бұрын

@@IndianaJake the show isn't about the Empire itself its about the effect the Empire has on those individuals who become part of it, either by "choice" like Morgan or by force like Barris. The Empire strong armed Morgan onto a darker path by manipulating her fear of being vulnerable + alone and her anger at an indifferent galaxy that only hates her for who she is. Whereas the injustice of the Empire leads Barris to find her way back to the light she had fallen from. She realises that the Empire is exactly what she felt the Jedi had become, an army for the dark side. Seeing that from the inside as an inquisitor makes her realise that she allowed herself to become what she stood against and helps her find a path back to what she wanted the Jedi to be. The Empire unintentionally turns her into a healer, one who helps heal the corruption of the Fourth Sister and help find a way out of the darkness they surround everyone with.

@IndianaJake Ай бұрын

@@thewerewolff7248 baris ended up not having anything to do with the Empire so it was a completely pointless story. And Morgan is already dead and wasn’t very interesting to begin with, another pointless story

@MDestron2282 Ай бұрын

I watched the first three episodes last night... really lazy writing. It seemed very phoned in. I hope the second half is quite a bit better because this is not on par with the Star Wars animated shows we've been getting.