A Masterpiece - Cooler Master NCORE 100 Max Review
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Күн бұрынWhat a beautiful ITX sky-scraper! Despite some minor flaws, this is going to be such a refreshing point-of-entry for many newcomers into the SFF space. Cooling? Covered! Power and Cable management? Covered! GPU fitment for the next few years? Covered! Let's check out the NCORE 100 MAX :)
Buy items in this video from Amazon at the links below:
Cooler Master NCORE 100 MAX Gray - geni.us/NCORE100MAXGray
Cooler Master NCORE 100 MAX Bronze - geni.us/NCORE100MAXBronze
Cooler Master NR200P MAX - geni.us/NR200PMAX
Fractal TERRA - geni.us/TERRASILVER
ASUS AP201 (mATX) - geni.us/AP201
Check out the Phanteks D30 here - geni.us/D30BRegular
Timestamps:
0:00 - Coming Up!
0:14 - Unboxing and Size comparison (vs TERRA)
1:17 - Bronze Edition Color (WOW)
1:41 - Getting Inside is easy?
2:42 - Removing the AIO!
3:56 - Cooling and PSU (850W)
5:10 - GPU Fitment (Default mode)
5:40 - Click for Good Luck (Sponsor)
6:10 - GPU Fitment (Expanded mode 1)
7:20 - GPU Fitment (Expanded mode 2)
8:13 - NO WAY IT FITS!
9:22 - Default vs Expanded Mode Size Comparison
10:01 - Pointless Feature!
11:13 - How long does it take to build?
12:47 - FIRST BOOT PROBLEMS!
13:25 - RTX 4080 Temps vs my NV5
13:43 - MY MAIN ISSUE!
14:19 - INTERIOR
15:31 - Temperatures (vs ALL ITX cases)
16:17 - Price (is it better vs NZXT H1 v2?)
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@TulioPontacoloni 4 ай бұрын
I super appreciate the transparency when mucking up the cpu cooler and displayport. It lends to credibility and honestly just empathy from a fellow builder. This thing looks sick. I swore of ITX after my last build was such a pain in the a** to upgrade etc. They've come a long way! Hope they quick fix the feet/display - I'll wait before purchase but this will be in my new build! Love the bronze!
@cameronwheler7367 4 ай бұрын
Mad respect to the team for leaving in the gaffe with the AIO coldplate sticker... It's happened to all of us. Also for sharing that sock/sandal combination ✌🏼✌🏼
@G-Unit1111 4 ай бұрын
The design and the gold color are definite standouts. As an SFF builder I am glad that companies are paying attention to the SFF market and delivering accordingly!
@sirdrinksalottrenchhugger4041 4 ай бұрын
4:20 Good luck with that. In case of an RMA, they'll want you to send the entire thing back, not just individual components. I had issues with an oscillating fan noise on my NR200P MAX, and that was their solution. Not just sending back the AIO or the fans, but the entire case. I just ended up replacing those poor quality Cooler Master stock fans with some Noctuas and now everything is OK.
@TheLinkedList 4 ай бұрын
Yup, same problem existed with the NZXT H1. My friend's AIO pump failed and they want him to send the whole thing back & they're saying it might take a month to replace. I mean, who goes a month without their work / gaming machine
@pooty9998 3 күн бұрын
A friend of mine had the nr200 max that either had the aio or fan go out, and he only had to send in the one part, not the whole case
@CatdaddyM 3 ай бұрын
Guys listen closely to Dimitry He’s the real OG. He’s been around doing reviews for over 15+ years now. I used to watch him when I was back in Uni. Now I am married with 2 kids who started watching his videos too. He’s as big as Linus and the others. Hats off to Dimitry. Glad to see him still making amazing review videos after all these years.
@HardOCPTV 4 ай бұрын
Built a new system this NCore 100 Max last week with a 7800X3D and 7900 XTX, and cooling works just fine. Could not be happier.
@smthsmth 4 ай бұрын
Just fine = it hasnt yet burned down my house
@shrunty 4 ай бұрын
Is the Ncore 100 max power supply sufficient for this build? I went with a Lian Li mid tower over this to have a 850W power supply for my 7800X3D and 7900 XTX build
@unholydonuts 4 ай бұрын
Talk about min maxing inside an itx case!
@1nfiniteloop 4 ай бұрын
What are CPU temps like gaming? AMD was the first thing I though of when I saw it was 12mm cooler only.
@Shulcyo 3 ай бұрын
i have identical build in nr200pmax and temps are great. both CPU and GPU cores temps are rarely going over 60C. Not sure how would this work with 120mm aio
@DR4K0R3X 4 ай бұрын
I really like the perfectly sized cables built in. This is the first SFF case that I could see myself getting.
@watercannonscollaboration2281 4 ай бұрын
This case feels very gaming-centric, where you don’t go ham on the CPU and pick something like an i5 (maybe i7) or a 7800X3D. That isn’t a bad thing, you don’t need to go “no compromises” on ITX all the time The custom cable length is pretty convenient, and some of the additional cables are braided which helps so much for cable management. Corsair used to do it for their SFF PSUs, their included type 4 cables were shortened and braided, and it’s something I wish more companies would do for their SFF lineup
@VinylicSummer4 4 ай бұрын
The case itself is really good and designful, but the 120mm aio (tho thicker) and the price range is kind of a small drawback.
@oRicardoHetfield 4 ай бұрын
For me is the psu throw hot air to the AIO! Pretty sure that temps would be better if they rotate the psu... Probably would be better using a top down air cooler!
@VulgrDisplay 4 ай бұрын
It comes with a PSU and cooler for that price doesn't it? Seems like it's right where it should be price wise.
@HardwareCanucks 4 ай бұрын
I think the price is pretty fair with cooling, PSU and cables included. -D.
@shenchingyeh6000 4 ай бұрын
It’s a whole solution, not just a case.
@stewart9540 4 ай бұрын
Nice looking case, never built on an ITX it's always been full tower custom loop, but I'd like to try this
@TheDungkaka1993 4 ай бұрын
The new riser looks interesting. Looking forward to buy the riser
@teknolojigundemi Ай бұрын
Very good effort. I wish they make a complete water cooled versions of itx , mini itx in future.
@brumby92 4 ай бұрын
Right angled DPI cables exist. They should include one in the box imo. They really help clean up cables especially the back of monitors. I'd love a case only version.
@yensteel 4 ай бұрын
As a guy who hates keeping multiple cables for different scenarios: swiveled DPI cable >:)
@DiddyReviews 4 ай бұрын
great video as always, it looks amazing. any idea if it will be released without the psu and cooler? its very pricey
@johnfritzcabahug665 4 ай бұрын
The only thing this case needs is an angled display cable out of the box, its gonna be 10/10
@CarnisChampion 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. I think this may just be my new luggable gaming pc case :D
@shawncollenburg9147 2 ай бұрын
I love this case. I'm big fan of undermounting the case to the table (e.g. standing desk) and this will be fantastic. A little extra noise doesn't really matter, since I have the nice barrier anyway. IO placement works fine for me as well, since I would just mount the IO toward the front (and yes, that makes display routing a little more work, but that problem is quickly cable managed away)
@JitHster 4 ай бұрын
Impressive case! Good vid
@MrSouthSioux 3 ай бұрын
I like it. Especially for a home theater build. Could sit behind a television out of sight or easily beside a entertainment center on the floor.
@kanshashiteiru6552 4 ай бұрын
14:14 I doubt the case’s stability, since the center of gravity seems too high. The power button should be at the bottom or the top of the case, otherwise it might topple over when pressed.
@zainhaider6724 3 ай бұрын
Firstly, a very nice in-depth review of this case as always. I do like the case but I can't believe this case will be able to remove heat from the newer larger and hotter computer components that are now coming to market. It may be worth getting a build with all the hotest components and see how this behaves in extreme conditions.
@MadOnion78 4 ай бұрын
Damn, love that case. Was looking for the Lian Li Q58X4, NR200P MAX or Fractal terra....... but this looks sooooo nice. We have a winner ......
@5yearshed 4 ай бұрын
It is a looker!
@danlazaro1676 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review. This was EXACTLY what I wanted to see regarding SFF and fitment with the new (thicc) gpu's coming out. Seeing you expanding the case and giving measurements really helped a lot!
@HardwareCanucks 4 ай бұрын
Glad I could help! -D.
@Collins1984 3 ай бұрын
Just built this with 5600x and 3060ti only issues I had were motherboard related because of the heat spreaders on the Aorus mini itx. Love the case!
@omni_0101 4 ай бұрын
I love cooler master! People always sleep on them but my NR200 was the easiest, highest performance mini itx I've ever built in.
@williamchiawq3747 4 ай бұрын
A little side story for the pointless feature regarding the movable piece. Cooler Master suppose to release 2 version of NCORE 100 like NR200 including the barebone version. But in the middle of production, they decided not to release NCORE barebone version, so the movable piece and middle spine is designed for user who getting barebone and having chance to fit in taller low profile air cooler.
@jonathanellis6097 4 ай бұрын
My concern would be replacement of the aio when it dies. Only a 2 year warranty, will an aio replacement be available? I know a standard 120mm would probably fit, but you would realistically want the thicker one that comes with the case.
@rare6499 4 ай бұрын
My biggest concern as well.
@briantse11 4 ай бұрын
Could you please check the max height of CPU air cooler compatible with the spine moving? I really like the case but not water cooling
@vmbra6255 3 ай бұрын
Angled DP cable is a must I see
@Martin-el5uu 4 ай бұрын
First time in a long time that a case got me so interested, same "want it now" feeling as when I first saw the Phanteks Evolv shift XT 😁
@HardwareCanucks 4 ай бұрын
Ha nice! Hope you find it for a good price 👍 which color are you choosing? -D.
@eTiMaGo 4 ай бұрын
Always been a fan of the NZXT H1 form factor, but this one would definitely sway me!
@mysticode 4 ай бұрын
👏👏 transparency! 👏👏
@MuShinnen 4 ай бұрын
I like this case quite a bit. I will say the thumbnail left me a bit disappointed because my eyes see a bright yellow, and now i wish that was an optional colorway for the case.
@swordscythe 3 ай бұрын
Am I interpreting this right, that you built the Ncore 100 MAX with a 3080 GPU but the test was performed with 2060 GPU (I assume, to be able to compare with Mini-ITX build that can't fit that GPU)? So we can assume that fitting a higher TDP GPU in this case (say, a 7800XT or 7900GRE) will make it run much hotter under load?
@pedrosk445 4 ай бұрын
Great review, wish we saw real world gaming temps
@Endemoniada 4 ай бұрын
If GPUs are going to keep growing longer and longer, this will soon be the only way to make a case. I'm still using a Meshify C, thinking the "compact" sub-category of ATX cases would definitely be the future, but then I got a 3080 and immediately that dream was shot down. 40-series are even longer... So next time I build a whole PC, I might very well go with one of the vertical-style cases. Every other part is still growing smaller, an ITX board is more than enough to fit RAM, drives and everything else, so building around the GPU is the only thing that really makes sense, and that means the old motherboard-centric ATX tower feels extremely outdated and wasteful at this point.
@Delver639 4 ай бұрын
For the HDMI cable (for those who connect the PC on TV), try a fiber optic cable with 90 degree angled connector, that will do the trick (and a FO cable is worth every penny). Don't know if there's a similar cable for Display Port.
@jrno93 20 күн бұрын
This looks slick but after going full open case with the Xproto-L from XTIA and having maximum airflow and best temps possible on all my components its hard to go back to suffocating my hardware by stuffing it in a box. Having a small footprint helps too and placing a circular fan at the back of the case and to you to cool you and your pc down simultaneously is a win win.
@QuantumAssassin 3 ай бұрын
I built that Mustang with my daughter it is a fun build.
@giff74 4 ай бұрын
It's a nice looking case, but I'd like to see the CPU temps with more modern CPU.
@HardwareCanucks 4 ай бұрын
I use that system so you can see how it compares to all other cases previously tested. Otherwise it’ll just be temperatures with nothing for reference. -D.
@VulgrDisplay 4 ай бұрын
Most AMD CPUs should be fine. Intel will definitely be an issue on this cooler.
@giff74 4 ай бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks The actual temp IS the point of reference. That cooler is a limiting factor for today's toasty CPUs.
@giff74 4 ай бұрын
@@VulgrDisplay I agree. It would be great to have seen that in the video though LOL
@blackbirdpctech 4 ай бұрын
Nice case … you guys do great reviews !!
@MickeyMolad 4 ай бұрын
Love the thumbnail
@nach1113 24 күн бұрын
Can you place the PSU on top and place a 240-360mm radiator for the CPU instead? on the side of course.
@springvice 4 ай бұрын
I thought it is named 100 max for its 100C degree performance. Turned out just a forgotten peel.
@spo1buco 4 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this review! 😍😍😍
@leakyabstraction 4 ай бұрын
Gorgeous looking case, especially the dark gold color. But, I have a Lian Li / Dan Case A4-H2O, with a 240 AIO, which is supposed to be around 12 liters, and with respect to the case itself I think I haven't seen much extra features here that the 4 liters additional volume would offer, besides one bottom fan. Although it's true that this case can accommodate massive graphics cards, but still it could offer a bit more with that plus 4l.
@DrBreezeAir 4 ай бұрын
*looks at his Noctua edition card* - Someday, my friend, someday.
@miguelcollado5438 4 ай бұрын
they sell 90*deg DP cable adapters.. had to buy a few for my Phanteks ITX build
@mat967 4 ай бұрын
...Of course it does not fit in its box in expanded mode. Why and how would it??
@HardwareCanucks 4 ай бұрын
Just an observation, useful for those who might travel with the case in a box during relocation or w/e.
@kylomylo2082 3 ай бұрын
Is it possible to swap out the PSU for a higher wattage one? Given that newer cards like the 4090 or even 5090 will draw alot more power
@ReapeRayne 3 ай бұрын
the dp cable can be solved by using an angled dp cable so yeah hope this helps
@nathantaylor118 4 ай бұрын
So, it's their answer to the NZXT H1. Nice, :D
@nix9583 4 ай бұрын
What happens when the AIO pump dies in 3 years, needs to be replaced, and is no longer in production?
@D3moknight 3 ай бұрын
I am curious how you are able to compare GPU temperatures of other cases such as the Dan case, and you specifiy that you are not able to use the same RTX 4080. Does that mean that you tested this case with the 4080 from the video, or do you have a low-profile GPU that you put in all of your ITX tests?
@HardwareCanucks 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I use the same hardware for all ITX case testing, it’s in the top right corner of all the graphs. The GPU is a 2060. -D.
@maxderdax6117 4 ай бұрын
I love the direction cooler master has been heading recently compared to a few years ago.
@Claudethechiefsfan 4 ай бұрын
Is the Cooler Master V1100 SFX Platinum compatible with this case?
@camilosabo 3 ай бұрын
What is the most powerful processor that that AIO could support?
@Alex-up5kw 4 ай бұрын
But why did you put there 4080, and then shown tests with 2060s+i5-9600? :/
@unholydonuts 4 ай бұрын
This. If only those were 4080 temps.
@6r3ys0n 2 ай бұрын
I wish they made that white strix 3090 as a 4090 variant with a more dense fin stack. I would replace my current 4090 in a heartbeat that throwback is so beautiful
@adamsteinbacher2629 4 ай бұрын
The bread bag cable ties just make it look cheap. Velcro straps would have been a much more fitting option for such an otherwise premium looking case.
@yuiyue807 4 ай бұрын
It's actually (I forgot the name for it) a quite normally used tie for electronic stuff, my dad is an electrician and he and also his buddies use it at their job and during the build of our house too I've seen several of these being used across the house so I'm pretty sure it's a good quality enough and if not, just replace it yourself man
@adamsteinbacher2629 4 ай бұрын
@@yuiyue807 Yeah I'm not knocking the practicality or safety of it. Just seems like an awfully cheap choice of tie-downs for a $400 case. The NR200 comes with velcro tie-downs and I bought that thing new for $20 after a sale and rebate.
@yuiyue807 4 ай бұрын
@@adamsteinbacher2629 Well in that case, it does make sense.....guess they tried cheaping out here. 💀 and that price is insane!
@jamilvints 4 ай бұрын
I wish we could get the case only
@squirts1 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Phanteks evolve shift.
@evileyeball 4 ай бұрын
You could disable the AIO pump logo with a piece of black coloured tape ;)
@ScytheNoire 4 ай бұрын
Explain again how someone is supposed to plug in their video card cable without raising it up? Did they really miss that issue?
@dreadin 3 ай бұрын
it seems to only be an issue for the biggest cards which require the bracket to be moved to its lowest position to fit.
@maartenmidden1651 4 ай бұрын
Are silent cases still a thing? Or are nowadays PC very silent?
@ravnos04 4 ай бұрын
The real hero of this video is the green Mustang GTD model Dimitri had in frame. 😂
@HardwareCanucks 4 ай бұрын
True, the real MVP of the vid 😆 -D.
@garetht1236 4 ай бұрын
I need an Cooler Master NCORE 300 ATX Max case please. They can skip the mATX NCORE 200 haha
@classicallpvault8251 4 ай бұрын
Just use a 90'' sideways adapter for the DisplayPort cable. They're only around 7 bucks. Should have been included with the case though.
@DaSyEnTisT 4 ай бұрын
Nice review but I would have like to know the cpu temp on a modern CPU,not a i5 9600k
@romxxii 3 ай бұрын
wouldn't a 90º attachment help with that weird cable positioning?
@AKG58Z 4 ай бұрын
Where are the sff cases man under the n case m1 volume.
@mrbobo86 4 ай бұрын
This case is beautiful but i wish the aluminium was more silver like the phanteks shift XT
@jaymacpherson8167 4 ай бұрын
Not looking for a case atm, but I watched this one because… In the lead photo, why is Dimitri carrying a boom box on his shoulder???
@BITEKC Ай бұрын
I think NZXT H1 is the best looking vertical case. I took idea from your review of H1 and got myself IKEA fake plant that sits on the top of the case and I feel like I will never upgrade my case (even when AIO goes) again. I like H1 so much that the only case that would make me upgrade again is H1 V3 (when and if does come out). Plus I really like all those custom options for H1 on Etsy.
@NiGHTSChao689 4 ай бұрын
My dude... I mean this with all the love in the world Hardware Canucks, but leaving the film on the AIO... Come on.
@HardwareCanucks 4 ай бұрын
Happens to us all 😆 -D.
@NosyNorseman 4 ай бұрын
He could just have edited it out so..
@unholydonuts 4 ай бұрын
In his defense, he was timing and filming himself while building.
@Yowgurto Ай бұрын
@HardwareCanucks Demetri is just dumb and annoying. Fire him already.
@Kahlimer0 4 ай бұрын
Looks awesome but would be even more if you had option for vertical AND horizontal.
@TheBrandoncyz 3 ай бұрын
Lovely looking case but as I said when I first saw it... JUST. give me the case, Everything else is unneeded for me. tho it's a good optional choice for those who don't want to deal with the headache of that build process... Still , NCORE 100 non-Max WHEN? also thanks for the full teardown, nice to see that the PSU is removeable if anything happens.
@forte7991 Ай бұрын
This looks better then my nuc Intel extreme beast
@Jason_YT 4 ай бұрын
That PSU they included is very loud at idle because it has no zero RPM mode. Instant deal killer
@TheMuzwan 2 ай бұрын
What mobo was used in testing?
@austintea 4 ай бұрын
I love the look of this case but I'm on team air cooler, so I'm gonna be going with something else
@nyxetera Ай бұрын
Where do you put the SSDs?
@killerclassG7 Ай бұрын
Would the AIO be ok with an i7-14700KF?
@sebbosebbo9794 3 ай бұрын
I wish a under 8l version comes soon..
@TechModProjects 3 ай бұрын
2 cars worth of technic... New metric! Love it 😅
Ай бұрын
My main question is, why are you testing it with a 4-5 years old cpu?
@Zatchillac 4 ай бұрын
I wish there was an ITX case that could hold plenty of drives. I have a mATX case now but it's still bigger than I like, but it can hold all my SSD's and HDD
@AndyU96 2 ай бұрын
When it comes to mini itx, 2.5" drives you can put in a case depend entirely on how creative you are
@bolondember 4 ай бұрын
so many "that's what she said" moments, sooo many :D
@CappuccinoLife Ай бұрын
2024 and Brand still try to make that 'one perfect' mITX Case. Why is so hard?
@Zaj88 4 ай бұрын
Will it fit a ROG Strix 4080 Super OC - 4 slot?
@nalda4334 4 ай бұрын
This is how to review a case, all the pros, cons, what can be done, how tall and thick the graphic card can be install, what problem to expect when adjusting the graphic card area to accomodate maximum 4 slot full lenght GPU. All this lay out in the open. Also the time taken to built the pc is a nice extras. Always love it when dimitri doing case review. It's time to jump ship to cooler master, lian li just lost their customer. Always betraying fan with their expo and then cancel the case that already shown.
@Hardwaretuned 4 ай бұрын
Nr200p max is the best itx ever in the history of all cases
@ThisisDD 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me largely of the SilverStone FT03
@jamestaylor954 4 ай бұрын
What mother board was used?
@powlow1664 4 ай бұрын
Curious if the rad will accommodate a T30 fan
@flyingpj 4 ай бұрын
it won't
@HardwareCanucks 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately no. Standard 25mm fans only. -D.
@mfmr200 3 ай бұрын
is the psu fullsize?
@Sneeuwinjebilnaad 4 ай бұрын
7:16 That is the measurement i use with my girlfriend, too. A strong 20 centimeters.
@mbf6160 4 ай бұрын
Did I miss the mobo install
@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis 4 ай бұрын
The forgotten peel happen to me too. I was building my first am5 build n my old cooler use its own back plate so i couldnt use it on am5. I remember i have new dark rock pro 4 that was in my shelve just collecting dust for like a yr. When i put it i totally forgotten to remove that plastics Notice my temps was high .i knew the bequiet coolers suck at am5 n shoud be avoided at all cost but they couldnt be that .i was like i thing i forgotten to remove the plastic 😂 . N yes that was the issue😂😅
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