A Needlessly Exhaustive History of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit

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Oswald the Lucky Rabbit was Disney's first big cartoon star, and one of the first ever Disney characters, predating Micky Mouse. This video tells the story of the complete history of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, starting with his origin in the early days of animation, his creation and first cartoons, his changing of hands between different studios, disappearance, reacquisition by Disney, presence today, and where he might be going in the future. Oswald is one of my favorite Disney characters, and telling his story has been a passion project of mine for a long time. If you want to see more Disney history videos like this, consider subscribing to the channel. Thank you so much for watching and always remember that you're extraordinary!
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
05:20 Part One: The Beginning
07:23 Part Two: Oswald's Creation
10:50 Part Three: The Oswald America Would Come to Know and Love
15:59 Part Four: Betrayal
18:59 Part Five: Deja Vu, All Over Again
20:24 Part Six: Poker
23:40 Part Seven: Oswald Disappears
24:28 Part Eight: Oswald's Restoration
27:16 Part Nine: Oswald Makes His Comeback
30:14 Part Ten: The Lucky Rabbit
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@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Update: The Epic Mickey video I promised in this comment is now available to view. You can watch it here: A Needlessly Exhaustive History of Epic Mickey - Featuring AtlasGeneticist kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJimYKiBvKeXm4U.html Hey, everyone, thanks for watching and commenting on the video! I have just a few notes of clarification on some things in the video. 1. The story I tell of Mickey's creation in the video is the overly simplified and likely embellished version that Walt Disney told. Multiple aspects of this story are most likely exaggerated or even false. For example, Walt Disney probably didn't draw the first sketch of Mickey on the train. Also, it's very possible Lillian didn't actually name Mickey. 2. In the video, I say that Woody Woodpecker has been "Largely forgotten in pop culture." This is true for most of the world, but the character remains popular in Latin America, hence the Brazil-exclusive video game release I also mentioned. I should have clarified this in the video as my wording implied that Woody Woodpecker was mostly forgotten everywhere. 3. Yes, I make a joke about overly long history video intros right after making one myself. This was intentional. The intro may seem somewhat unnecessary to Oswald's story, but I was trying to establish what animation was at the time, how young it was, and how stealing ideas would be a common theme in the story. I felt all of this made the intro necessary for the story I wanted to tell. 4. Although I didn't mention how or when Ortensia got her name, the obvious inference is that she was named when she debuted in The Banker's Daughter. This is not accurate. She was actually named during the development of Epic Mickey. 5. Speaking of Epic Mickey, I am currently working on a video about the game, since several of you asked for it. 6. I state in the video that Oswald's final cartoon was "Feed the Kitty." Technically, this was the last short in the Oswald series, but not the last cartoon to star Oswald. That would be 1943's The Egg Cracker Suite, which is a "Swing Symphony" cartoon. I think that's everything I need to cover. If you made it this far, thanks for reading and remember that you're extraordinary!

@barbarafernandes6557 5 ай бұрын

Woody woodpecker (Pica-pau) used to air on Brazilian TV almost daily during the 80s and 90s. No wonder it is so popular here! I loved your video. It was so endearing! I really like Oswald and I'm really glad he is slowly coming back.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@LeonardoGarcia-xi4gs 5 ай бұрын

That's great! I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the game, I finally played it myself last year, but I have yet to do the Thinner path. I hope you have fun with the game and making the video too!

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! I'm looking forward to playing it again, as I haven't played it in several years. I also got Epic Mickey 2, which I've never played, and I'm excited to finally play that.

@LeonardoGarcia-xi4gs 5 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Any chance you could also cover Power of Illusion, and the behind the scenes of Epic Mickey?

@ProfCoolio 5 ай бұрын

I heard a great theory as to why Ortensia is Oswald’s love interest: he’s a lucky rabbit, she’s a black cat. Opposites attract.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

That actually makes a lot of sense.

@YourFeelingsSucks 7 ай бұрын

I feel completely neutral about Mickey, but Oswald is such a national treasure.

@pawnhearts8785 5 ай бұрын

Paul Rudish Mickey I like.

@YourFeelingsSucks 5 ай бұрын

@@pawnhearts8785 yes.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

I love Mickey Mouse. All versions of him.

@_what._. 5 ай бұрын

I love Mickey Mouse! But Oswald too

@YourFeelingsSucks 5 ай бұрын

@@_what._. Oswald is far too iconic for me, and far less perfect.

@TenshiLove5 7 ай бұрын

I know its just a fictional character but it really touches my heart that they got the boy back and have made him feel better about being abandoned. The video of his song in the parade made me choke up. 😢

@stephenholloway6893 7 ай бұрын

While Oswald eventually entered public domain Disney still has his trademark after getting that from Universal. We'll see what else Disney has to do with him after he's in the public domain

@izzyj.1079 5 ай бұрын

About that...@@stephenholloway6893

@FrozenCarYesBlueyNo 5 ай бұрын

Cleopatra 4:11 22:03

@brandonthomas6038 5 ай бұрын

Damn, Oswald must've been rubbing that lucky foot of his for all of those years. It certainly paid off!

@AvengedHate26 6 ай бұрын

I’m so happy Oswald is finally getting some love he deserves

@kathleenpeoples4028 9 ай бұрын

This video is phenomenal. I cried. I so wish Walt could have known this went full circle back to him. This is so well done, informative, and even funny. Great job.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@mreevee_ 4 ай бұрын

Oswald is literally the most underrated character of all time

@theotherjared9824 6 ай бұрын

If Charles Mintz wasn't a massive dick, we wouldn't have Mickey Mouse, Looney Tunes, Woody Woodpecker, or Al Michaels on NBC. You could write a book about this and it would be panned for being too unrealistic.

@jstevinik3261 2 ай бұрын

Well, Mintz ended up producing shorts with Krazy Kat and Scrappy for Columbia.

@gugurupurasudaikirai7620 7 ай бұрын

Oswald in a way is the direct progenitor of the Looney Tunes as well. While still working on Oswald, Ising and Harman also didn't trust Mintz and copyrighted Bosko a few months before Disney copyrighted Mickey as his backup plan. Bosko would go on to become the first Looney Toon after Ising and Harman went to work for Warner Bros

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, exactly. I just didn't get into all the details about that.

@jstevinik3261 2 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples I am not sure if you read, but Michael Barrier's book "Hollywood Cartoons: American Animation in its Golden Age", but it is a well-cited about such details and tries to avoid apocryphal legends.

@SlashManEXE 6 ай бұрын

Side note for Oswald’s first comic by National Allied Publications: that was the very first DC comic book. They were pioneering collections of new comics not reprinted from newspapers

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

The first one was called New Fun: The Big Comic Magazine. Oswald was in that? That would certainly make sense, as it was a collection of different stories. Can I get your source for that? I had a really hard time finding any information about his comics.

@SlashManEXE 6 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples DC restored/reissued the original comic book a few years ago, so that’s how I obtained my copy. They included essays and accounts from comic historians for context on the state of comics at the time, and New Fun’s role in history

@Poyostar 7 ай бұрын

Oswald The Lucky Rabbit will always be my favorite Disney character of all time. While I will admit that I would've loved for you to go into more detail on the development of Epic Mickey and Oswald's role in the story, including how he eventually learns to trust and respect his younger brother and how he lost Ortensia to The Blot, this is otherwise a perfect video about his history.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 7 ай бұрын

I figured Epic Mickey deserves its own video.

@higbeeproductions2340 11 ай бұрын

Oswald is the best! He really have a fantastic part of animation history and cartoons. Mickey Mouse is seen as a Icon to many but It was really Oswald, who helped him part of that.. Whether if people like to admit it or not, Mickey was mostly known at the time as the replacement for Oswald success.. even though it did started all with a mouse But technically, if it hasn’t been, for Oswald wasn’t been a Mickey So even though Disney all started with a mouse.. animation really all started with a rabbit especially because of how they push the boundaries at the time with Oswald being one of the first cartoons to have a personality, unlike Felix, who is mostly made for gags

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 11 ай бұрын

It's funny because Mickey Mouse kind of represents what Disney would have done with Oswald had they retained the rights to him. Universal never really innovated with Oswald on top of what Disney already established, whereas Disney continued to innovate with Mickey. The foundation for Mickey's success was what Disney had already done with Oswald.

@blackcow4219 3 ай бұрын

@higbeeproductions2340 Well, no, Felix did have a personality, albeit a more porous one than Oswald. Technically, the first cartoon character to have a personality was Gertie the dinosaur.

@asteroidrules 6 ай бұрын

I had no idea the recovery of Oswald was such a bizarre trade. For the longest time I only knew of the character as a footnote in the early days of Disney's career, the One Man's Dream show at Disney World mentions Oswald when explaining the origins of Mickey Mouse but that was basically the only reference to him the Disney company made prior to getting him back.

@TheKaiserFritz 4 ай бұрын

Literally came to this video after the announcement of the Epic Mickey Remake

@CaptainCat101 5 ай бұрын

Oswald is my favorite Disney character. Mainly for the history of the character, but I legitimately live his classic shorts

@judethedude02 4 ай бұрын

Love waking up everyday to the Oswald theme (I set it as my alarm)

@WaterShowsProd 6 ай бұрын

I never considered the name connection between Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald. That certainly would have been hard for America to handle at the time, especially as they were both simply referred to as "Oswald" at the time. I don't know for certain when I first heard of Oswald The Lucky Rabbit, but I seem to think it was in a Disney magazine in The 1970s, mentioning how he came before Mortimer Mouse who then became Mickey Mouse. That would imply the company was still thinking of him, keeping his memory alive even though he'd disappeared by then.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

I would LOVE to know the name of that magazine, if you can remember it.

@WaterShowsProd 6 ай бұрын

As I recall it was just called Disney Magazine, published in The UK, but apart from that I really don't know. I was quite young at the time. It had comic strips with Disney characters and some information. I recall a special issue that I guess must have marked Mickey's 50th Birthday. @@ExtraordinaryPeoples

@bluedash24 5 ай бұрын

28:54 I cried…! That was magical!

@EinsamPibroch278 6 ай бұрын

Despite having never played Epic Mickey, when my Brother heard of Oswald, he instantly became my brother's favorite character. Much like the Rabbit, he had all the Luck.😂

@snupietherat6814 8 ай бұрын

Wow... I didn't realize you meant that in-depth. Thank you so much. Really good pacing. I love you too ^_^

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@randomexploring541 2 ай бұрын

You have no idea how invaluable this video you made is! Thank you very much! 👏😅❤

@Capydapy 6 ай бұрын

As somebody who's not American. I'm so glad that the "Fanny" character got rejected. 😅

@_what._. 5 ай бұрын

Amazing video!! Thank you for mkaing this. I'm excited to see what will be the future of Oswald. I think an Oswald series would be great!

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! I would also love to see an Oswald series.

@RandomCrapIUpload 2 ай бұрын

For a brief period around 2004, Oswald merchandise was actually made by Universal and distributed in Japan for UFO catchers, he was depicted in a slightly altered version of his Disney design, and was colored with blue fur and orange pants

@noone1929 4 ай бұрын

The first time I remember watching Oswald was in the animated Tsum Tsum short “Monochrome”. I didn’t play Epic Mickey until recently when I found it at a thrift store, but I already had developed a fondness for him because of the fanart I’d seen and his cameos in other Mickey shorts. Plus the knowledge that he was some sort of unintentional secret intrigued me. The only Oswald merch I have is my keychain lanyard, my cousin got it somehow but didn’t know nor care who Oswald was so when I got all excited they gave it to me. I didn’t know he has a store so maybe I will end up in Disneyland someday.

@marcoantoniogarcia38 5 ай бұрын

The Oswald and early Mickey shorts by Ub Iwerks are for me some of the best animated shorts of all time, and I really enjoy poor papa, even my six year old son laughed out loud watching it.

@hatsuyukilee86 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for making this video! I really like Oswald

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching it!

@Bobzilla2023 6 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to watch this real soon. I’m doing a shot of searching trying know and learn what parts of Oswald I can use as public domain.

@thesun564 8 ай бұрын

Thank u for this beautiful video 🥺

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words.

@DavidAmrod 5 ай бұрын

Well Done!!

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Elmerstudd007 5 ай бұрын

Dude this was awesome, really good work.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@ddl3718 6 ай бұрын

Woody woodpecker has definetly become obscure in pop culture, but that’s only in America. In Brazil and a lot of other Latin countries woody woodpecker is still an icon.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, there was a movie starring him in 2017, but it was only released theatrically in Latin America. In the US, it was direct-to-video. 😕 Universal needs to show Woody Woodpecker more love, honestly.

@retrofan4963 5 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Agree. Universal should also show more love to their rest of old school animation IPs like Don Bluth's An American Tail and Land Before Time. Along with Balto and We're Back: a Dinosaur Story. The only love Universal seems to give these days when it comes to animation are mainly Dreamworks and Illumination stuff. Illumination especially the most for sure. Minions seems to be more of their mascot when it comes to animation nowadays.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

I like the Minions as much as anyone else, but Universal uses them WAY too much. I still need to watch most of the other movies you mentioned. I think I'm the only nineties kid who hasn't seen The Land Before Time.

@retrofan4963 5 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples You gotta check them out if you got the chance :) They're really great films in my opinion. Personally, An American Tail is my favorite. These are classics. Since you said most, which specifically you have seen from the ones I list? Yeah, I do agree that Universal use the Minions too much. I mean it's cool and all they use the modern IPs these days, but they also should honor and give love to the classics too that put them on the map in animation like what Disney did with theirs. What I notice about Universal is that outside of animation, they do give much love to both modern and classic IPs(Back to the Future and Jurassic Park being the prime example in classic IPs). I feel they should do the same with their animation IP's as well.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

I've seen Balto. I'm familiar with the other films you mentioned but I haven't actually watched them. With Disney and Universal, the theme parks are such a great opportunity to show love to both classic and modern works, but Universal especially seems to be relying way too heavily on just modern material.

@madelinetracy3847 5 ай бұрын

Great video! Fantastic research! I don’t mind a long video when the quality is this terrific ;) please make more!

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! And stay tuned, because I have more coming very soon!

@risingrevolt 6 ай бұрын

Amazing video! Very informative

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@normalichu 6 ай бұрын

Amazing video! Very well researched, and also really helpful to know the story of Oswald. I think not enough people have seen this, hopefully it will blow up eventually :)

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

Thanks! For me, it's already blowing up. I'm very happy with the number of views this one has gotten. It's way more than I usually get.

@madsli 6 ай бұрын

23:24 "look how they massacred my boy"

@Starshyne9 5 ай бұрын

Epic Mickey is my all-time favorite video game as well, and people always laugh when I say that. Glad I am not alone!

@letsmakepancakes3 4 ай бұрын

You must be pretty happy today! I know I am

@Starshyne9 4 ай бұрын

@@letsmakepancakes3 Yes! I am thrilled. :)

@steeviewoo 6 ай бұрын

I'm glad you're aware of how often video essays have dull and unnecessarily long "historical background" intros. I just wish you realized that before spending 5 minutes going back to the origins of film projection to talk about oswald.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

You did read the title of the video, right?

@crestofhonor2349 6 ай бұрын

Great video on the Rabbit that started Walt's career. It's interesting how the character has been treated over the years

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@victormiguel9838 3 ай бұрын

Amazing work Excellent video I enjoyed a lot Thanks for all the hard work and research Greetings from Perth, WA

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@sweetpea9873 8 ай бұрын

Please do a video on Epic Mickey!!!

@AtlasGeneticist 6 ай бұрын

Eeee big big fan of this video 😭😭. Think it was time enough oswald had a proper video retrospective, aint no way the jfk assassination played a key role in him being retired😵 First one i ever saw was the one for the epic mickey file videos i watched when i was 10-11. If you ever make an entire video detailing the epic mickey games would love to pass some words about it since its one of my absolute favorite games of all time. Also highly suggest the folks over on the epic mickey wiki and their discord server absolute stellar fan community ^

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

Thanks! I am planning on making the Epic Mickey video, since several people have asked for it. I'll definitely look at the wiki and Discord server. This may be a stupid question, but what do you mean specifically by "pass some words"? Like, what did you have in mind?

@AtlasGeneticist 6 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples not sure just love to have something to say in the video about my experience playing through it seeing those ads for the first time. If i get time I also have a 4k texture pack mod for Epic Mickey needa make an entire play through in the future 🥹

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

@AtlasGeneticist, well, I'd love to include you in the video. If you're interested, you can send me a private message on Instagram if that works for you. The link is in the video description. It just might be better than talking here.

@strayvion808 5 ай бұрын

Hugh Hartman and Rudolf Ising, you guys are heroes. You saw the culprit behind it all and confronted him. Not to mention, you guys along with Friz Frelang would go on to create a pretty formidable and worthy rival; Warner Bros.

@glennso47 5 ай бұрын

And ultimately the Pink Panther cartoons.

@MailboxtheGreat 6 ай бұрын

Well now Steamboat Willie is public domain.

@racerx4152 6 ай бұрын

but disney has so many legal entanglements surrounding it, it's very difficult to know what a person can do or not do with the character.

@cjb32 5 ай бұрын

🎉@@racerx4152Disney still owns the trademark to Mickey Mouse and possibly Steamboat Willie my thinking is this goes back to when Walt lost Oswald in 1928 they're trying to make sure the mistakes and past won't happen again.

@jessepinkman5702 7 ай бұрын

I'd seen Get a Horse when it was released, but your video made me realize the cat playing the string instrument is probably Julius? They gave him brown pants to match with Oswald and Mickey. It just seems like it could be Julius

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 7 ай бұрын

I think he's supposed to just resemble the cats that show up in Oswald and early Mickey Mouse cartoons whose designs were based on Julius. The cat in Get a Horse has ears that point backwards and pants, and Julius doesn't, so I don't think he's supposed to *be* Julius. I think you can just trace his design back to Julius.

@jstevinik3261 2 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Honestly, Julius reminds me more of the cat that would appear in the Paul Terry co-produced Aesop's Fables that Disney initially looked up to.

@25Erix 2 ай бұрын

Oswald is now joining Disney Dreamlight Valley on May 1st. I'm looking forward to welcoming him to my own Valley. He's appearing in his original state (black and white) but us Valley players wouldn't mind him getting a Dream Style that puts him in his blue shorts. I also wonder if he'll get a modern redesign or if Disney will just stick with his 20's/30's appearence.

@Possibility-Productions 11 ай бұрын

Great video, Its a nice look at Oswalds history

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Neopets4Life494 5 ай бұрын

The first time I have ever heard of Oswald was back when I was a kid when I read a paragraph or so in this old Disney Art of Animation book that had pinocchio on the cover (i think. All i know was that my relatives owned it). It always stuck with me and back then I wouldn't have known how to look into it because it was still the super early 2000s. That book itself was lost in a flood. Hilariously enough when Jeopardy had Oswald as an answer for a Jeopardy question, I got it while my sister looked at me like "how did you you know? what the heck is an oswald?" Edit: It was the Disney's Art of Animation book with Beauty and the Beast on the cover. Not Pinnocchio. My bad

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Was the book The Illusion of Life?

@Neopets4Life494 5 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples You know what, I was completely wrong. My memory jumbled up on the book in question. I looked into it further and it was a book called Disney's Art of Animation. It actually had Beauty and the Beast on the main cover which I actually now remember vividly since I remember looking through it so much. I think I jumbled it up because I had seen the pinnocchio one somewhere else around the same time but no mistake about it, it was the Beauty and the Beast one. My bad completely! DX

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Oh, okay. I'll have to get my hands on a copy of that.

@Neopets4Life494 5 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples It was just a small section in the book if I recall correctly but even then the book itself is a treasure I would say. I hope you you're able to snag a copy!

@paulinetrivago.7540 4 ай бұрын

I know its not a perfect 1 to 1 comparison, but watching this made me realize Oswald was Disney's Ms Pacman

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 4 ай бұрын

How so?

@paulinetrivago.7540 4 ай бұрын

@ExtraordinaryPeoples again, it's not a perfect comparison, and it's more complicated than I can get into in a single comment, however I recommend watching a video by jonii titled "the disappearance of Ms Pacman," in which it's pretty well explained, but as a quick summary, Ms Pacman was an early icon of gaming, being one of the first (if not the first) FAMOUS female protagonist of her own game, was heavily used by Namco in the Pacman series until legal issues arised, Ms pacman fazed out/outright replaced. She's currently still missing/replaced hopefully awaiting a similar fate to Oswald and be restored to the pacman series. Again, the comparison is not perfect, instead of a year of before issues happen, it's more like 20ish years, plus all the technicalities on ownership. My comparison is more so in famous icon that's beloved and treasured by fans went through issues resulting in the obscurity that the character faced/facing.

@BovineDesigns 5 ай бұрын

You did such a wonderful job compiling his history comprehensibly. Bravo good sir! But now I'm wondering how they got the rights to Pete if he was also owned by Universal.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! I think they just didn't care about the supporting characters. People were coming to see Oswald or Mickey. It didn't really matter who the villain was. Also, Pete's design changed between the Oswald and Mickey series, so if anyone had cared, they probably could have claimed he was a different character.

@tapgames3465 5 ай бұрын

I heard that the reason why pete turned into a cat was because they didn't have rights to bear pete after the oswald shorts somehow so they turned him into a cat especially mickey being a mouse

@aaronwright485 4 ай бұрын

Imagine your company trades you for a silly rabbit guy

@LeonardoGarcia-xi4gs 6 ай бұрын

Me too! I'd like to hear your thoughts and opinions on Epic Mickey, how it handled Oswald, his character, the forgotten characters and the world! Please :)

@weepingkoopa2862 6 ай бұрын

24:03 Did not expect that turn... 😅

@michaelbellonis 8 ай бұрын

What are the clips of 3D animation you’re using from?

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 8 ай бұрын

They're from Epic Mickey.

@michaelbellonis 8 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples I actually meant, what I now realize, is Up. But by the end of the video I found myself wanting to know, instead, where the footage of Walt and Charles were from - like with the scene of them “negotiating” a deal. Was that a movie/documentary?

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 8 ай бұрын

@michaelbellonis, it's a movie called Walt Before Mickey. It's not made by Disney, and it's really not a very good movie, unfortunately.

@watchforever1724 6 ай бұрын

Still great

@Zachary-Word 10 ай бұрын

What's the music that starts on part three?

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 9 ай бұрын

"Stumbling Down the Boulevard" by The Fly Guy Five. It's a licensed song from Epidemic Sound.

@Zachary-Word 9 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples thanks

@369destroyer 6 ай бұрын

Just saying, Ortensia was named Sadie and was renamed after Disney got the character back

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

Huh. I never learned that during my research for the video. What's your source for that?

@369destroyer 6 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples My original source was Animat from the youtube channel ElectricDragon505 and it appears on a few fan wikis, but looking further, I can't seem to find their source. The story though is that the name Ortensia was given to the character by the Epic Mickey dev team to give her a name starting with O to mirror Mickey and Minnie since aside from the lost short, known only by the name Sagebrush Sadie, her name wasn't really uttered in any context they could find. Maybe this was a rumor taken too seriously but thats what I know.

@qwertyuiopyt5877 3 ай бұрын

Imagine a cartoon about Oswald living in "Forgotoonville" where all forgotten cartoon characters lived, kinda like Epic Mickey but 1 strictly Oswald and 2 like a neighborhood where i imagine it would be done in short toon form like the mickey reboot by Paul Ruddish who would also be a great pick to lead the series think modern mickey shorts x epic mickey but no Mickey

@smearg_ 6 ай бұрын

I'd love to hear your detailed thoughts on Epic Mickey!

@nicholashughes4342 6 ай бұрын

Coolness, Walt Before Mickey, is a great movie, be blessed saved all in Jesus shalom

@PcXp09 5 ай бұрын

17:02 what did you use for this, is this like a documentary

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

It's a movie called Walt Before Mickey. It's not very good or accurate, but I enjoy it simply for being one of the few non-documentary films about Walt Disney. You can actually find the entire movie here on KZfaq.

@JaxTheEpic 2 ай бұрын

The actual final cartoon starring Oswald is "The Egg Cracker Suite" from 1943 but it is a Swing Symphony Short rather than a Oswald the Lucky Rabbit one.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 2 ай бұрын

You are correct. I'll add that to my pinned comment.

@JaxTheEpic 6 күн бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Well I'm a bit wrong... Technically the last cartoon with Oswald in it even if it is not a proper one is a 1952 commercial for Autolite called "Team Play" which also has Andy Panda in it.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 күн бұрын

@JaxTheEpic, that's interesting; I'll have to look that up.

@William_Oswald1 11 ай бұрын

Julius the Cat should bring back?

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 11 ай бұрын

I think it would be cool if Disney showed him some love for the 100th anniversary. He's definitely important to the history of the company.

@William_Oswald1 11 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples alright.

@damiancruz42 3 ай бұрын

16:48 where is the footage from?

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

It's a movie called Walt Before Mickey.

@damiancruz42 3 ай бұрын

Ah OK, thanks for the info

@gierer797 4 ай бұрын

this is the first time i hear about julius the cat. what are the chances we can get him on his way back to disney as well?

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 4 ай бұрын

Well, Julius has been in the public domain for a while now, so Disney (and anyone else) can theoretically do whatever they want with him. I really doubt Disney will do anything with him other than the occasional cameo, though. For instance, there's a store in Disney California Adventure called "Julius Katz" which is a reference to him.

@andrescorcoll1477 6 ай бұрын

one interesting fact is, in some part of Latin America Bugs Bunny is known as "El conejo de la Suerte", in english "The lucky rabbit"

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

Wow, that is interesting.

@Pyromaniax 3 ай бұрын

Woody Woodpecker is a absolute success in Brazil, people quote the cartoon daily

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

Yes, you're correct. I clarified this in my pinned comment.

@Pyromaniax 3 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples I see well it's mostly due to the local dubbing that makes the dialogue extremely applicable to daily situations, in fact many media considered mid worldwide have been absolutely saved by Brazilian dubbing and made into country wide phenomenons like the Winx Club

@BudofSharon 8 ай бұрын

💜‼️🤠

@yosefdemby8792 6 ай бұрын

16:59 Also Les Clark and Johnny Cannon.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

They weren't animators at this point. They were studio staff who did other jobs like inking and painting. Les Clark went on to become an in-betweener on Steamboat Willie and later an animator and one of Disney's Nine Old Men.

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

0:06 1. It was not the first cartoon with sound. 2. Mickey appeared in 2 cartoons before Steamboat Willie.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, the interviewer is mistaken. Walt Disney obviously knew about Plane Crazy and The Gallopin' Gaucho since he and his team made them. Steamboat Willie was the first Mickey cartoon released in theaters, and that's what they both meant.

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples I see.

@jstevinik3261 2 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples There was a full audio short prior to "Steamboat Willie" titled "Dinner Time", written and directed by Paul Terry and John Foster, though the music and sound effects barely synchronized. If you browse and select it, the original music and sound are unlistenable to the point you can find a 1950s television version of the short that replaced the original audio with standard stock music already applied to the other Aesop's Fables shorts they broadcasted.

@mitchellalexander9162 5 ай бұрын

19:10 Evil cannot create. Only corrupt the Works of the good

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't go so far as to call Mintz evil, but he was certainly selfish and short-sighted.

@mitchellalexander9162 5 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Fair. Even still coming off of the In Depth Dive on Felix the Cat from The Cartoon Curator and as shown in this Vid Mintz might be considered one of Early Animations...'hinderances' if thats fair to him?

@PlanetZoidstar 4 ай бұрын

"Steamboat Willy was the first cartoon Mickey appeared in." Umm..No it wasn't, Walt. Remember Plane Crazy & the Galloping Guancho?

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 4 ай бұрын

Um, this is awkward for two reasons. The first is that "quote" never appears in this video. What I actually said was that Steamboat Willie was Mickey's first *theatrically released* cartoon, which it was. The second is that I just made a forty-plus minute video about this exact topic of Mickey's first three cartoons.

@PlanetZoidstar 4 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Well not verbatim, but it's what Walt implied when the interviewer asked him if Steamboat Willie was the first cartoon Mickey Mouse appeared in: "Was it (Steamboat Willie) the first cartoon in which Mickey appeared?" A question to which Walt replied *"Uh, yes, in which Mickey appeared."* That's the man Walt himself confirming the interviewer's question. Which we know it incorrect. Steamboat Willie may have been the first theatrically released Mickey short but it was the 3rd produced. So from the perspective of the public Steamboat Willie was Mickey's first appearance, but not to Walt or the animators who made him. But in all seriousness, mate, thanks so much for creating this comprehensive Oswald history video. I love Oswald.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 4 ай бұрын

@PlanetZoidstar, sorry, for some reason, I didn't notice that you said, "Walt." My bad. And thanks for the complement about the video.

@PlanetZoidstar 4 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples That's okay, mate. No harm done. I love the rubberhose era of Walt Disney animation (especially the Oswald shorts he and his crew made before Mickey), they hold a special place in my heart so it means alot seeing you go so deep into his history. I really want Disney to give Oswald more than he's currently got, Walt knows he's earned it.

@atlas_uraeus 6 ай бұрын

17:40 well according to the US Government everyone now owns Mickey Mouse since he’s now in the public domain

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

Um, no. *Mickey Mouse* is not in the public domain. Steamboat Willie and *that version* of Mickey are in the public domain, but Mickey Mouse is also trademarked, which doesn't expire and restricts what people can do with Mickey. Also, I don't know what you're trying to say with the time stamp. That Walt Disney failed to protect his character because public domain exists? That makes no sense.

@jstevinik3261 2 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples I remember watching 1990s computer colorized and dubbed versions of Looney Tunes, in which text would say that these characters are Warner Bros. trademarks, meaning one cannot make adaptations of the characters willy-nilly, unless they are re-makes of individual shorts that entered in the public domain.

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

5:11 That title actually belongs to Pete.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

No it doesn't, and I actually talk about that in the video. Pete is the oldest recurring Disney character still in use today.

@Tpgytp 3 ай бұрын

he's in the 2023 cartoon once upon a studio

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

I know, but Once Upon a Studio hadn't come out yet when I made this video.

@JaxTheEpic Ай бұрын

Actually Ferias Frustradas Do Pica Pau actually released in 1995 on the Mega Drive/Sega Genesis it released in 1996 on the Master System which you showed the box art for instead of the Genesis one.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples Ай бұрын

What's your source for it being released in 1995?

@JaxTheEpic Ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Oh it did come out in 1996 but the game's copyright says "1995"

@Pearlmetheus 5 ай бұрын

An now look at him once again in the gaming spotlight as he is a playable character on the game "Disney Speedstorm" Yeah the game might have its low as its pretty much a pay to win game BUT if you only care about racing an nothing more then you will surely enjoy the game with Oswald ANN Ortencia too! His whole story truly shows that he indeed, is the "Luckiest" of the Rabbits 🐰🍀

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

I actually just started playing Disney Speedstorm, and I think it's really cool that they included Oswald and Ortensia. I just wish the characters had more unique outfits and cars. They seem to all have different colors of the exact same thing.

@Pearlmetheus 5 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples True the outfits for both characters are pretty much the same an a few callbacks to his old cartoons , BUT again it's nice seeing both of them back in the gaming media once more 👍

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

23:43 His final cartoon was actually in 1943.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

Look man, I appreciate you leaving all these comments, and I appreciate when people correct an actual mistake I've made, but none of these "corrections" you're leaving are accurate. I'm not sure if you're referring to a cartoon where Oswald cameoed (which I do mention in the video), but the Oswald cartoon was released in 1938. It's called Feed the Kitty. You can look this up. Don't take my word for it.

@jstevinik3261 2 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples It is that 1938 was the last of the official series. It is that the character was re-designed for the one-off 1943 short "The Nutcracker Suite", which was on-par with Lantz's Silly Symphony knock-off "Swing Symphonies".

@jimdotbeep 5 ай бұрын

The Partners Statue isn't in the Magic Kingdom. It's in the nuetral zone between Main street and the Castle

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

The Magic Kingdom is the name of the entire park. The partners statue is in the Magic Kingdom park. I think you're thinking of Fantasyland.

@JaxTheEpic 5 ай бұрын

You forgot to mention oswald was at universal parks before Disney got the rights back and also he appears in a game boy color Woody Woodpecker game.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

What's your source for Oswald being in the Universal Parks? I am 99.999% certain that never happened. Also, you're right about the Game Boy Color game, but it was an extremely brief cameo, and yeah, I somehow missed it during my research process.

@JaxTheEpic 5 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples He just appeared in a sign I saw it on the walter lantz wiki

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

I just read Oswald's entire page on the Walter Lantz wiki. There's a single image of Oswald that the wiki claims is from Universal Studios Japan. The wiki does not cite a source for this information. I did a reverse image search on the picture, and I couldn't find a single source claiming it was from a Universal park. Without further evidence, I don't think that claim on the wiki page is accurate. Somebody somewhere would be talking about it or have a picture of the actual sign.

@JaxTheEpic 4 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples I was fooled.

@JaxTheEpic 4 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Wait I found this video by Fastpass Facts about the history of oswald and it showed a image of a oswald merchandise shop at universal park japan with that exact artwork and design.

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

2:24 The first cartoon is Fantasmagorie (1908)

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

No, that's two years after the one I talked about, Humorous Phases of Funny Faces. How is it the first?

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples The internet says so. And what I heard.

@jstevinik3261 2 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Humorous Phases of Funny Faces has non-animated segments. I think that it is more accurate to say that "Fantasmagorie" is the first FULLY animated short. Like all cinema in general, pre-1910, animation started as a "magic trick", so shorts that are ENTIRELY animation took a while. It is really a semantics thing that should have been clarified. Of course, since this is the silent era of film, it should be prefaced that these are the "firsts" that we know of because most silent films are lost.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 2 ай бұрын

@jstevinik3261, no, this is simply not accurate. Both Humorous Phases of Funny Faces and Fantasmagorie are completely animated except for shots of a hand drawing the figures, which both shorts have. Therefore, neither can be considered to be "more animated" than the other.

@55twintv39 2 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Ok whatever you say.

@paulwillard9687 4 ай бұрын

Julius was just a carbon copy of Felix

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 4 ай бұрын

Yes, I mention that in the video.

@jstevinik3261 2 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples It should be noted that the earlier Alice Comedies were more inspired, in overall tone and humour, by the Paul Terry co-produced Aesop's Fables.

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

15:32 The Playboy (1929) was his first appearance. I think that’s just a horse who acts like him.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

It's clearly the same design. Also, I think you meant to say, "The Plow Boy."

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Yeah I did.

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

2:18 Animation has actually been around since the phrestoric age.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

Precursors to animation have been around for thousands of years, but animation itself? No. Even if you use the absolute broadest possible definition of animation, I don't think anything in prehistoric times qualifies.

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Oh

@jstevinik3261 2 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Pre-historic paintings would depict movement via overlapping, but animation would really be a thing until spinning toy devices were made. However, you were obviously referring to animated FILM.

@user-uw4jw8lz3q 5 ай бұрын

You are undersubscribed, so I am commenting in hopes the algorithm looks kindly upon you. The video is well-made.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@MattSoverns 5 ай бұрын

5:33 ELLEN'S ENERGY ADVENTURE!

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

Yes, I loved that ride!

@MattSoverns 5 ай бұрын

great video, dude! Where does one find a comprehensive video archive or the DVD of all the Oswald shorts?

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

@MattSoverns, right here on KZfaq, actually. I think almost every surviving Oswald short is on here. There are a few playlists with at least most of them. You can find DVDs on sites like eBay, though.

@MattSoverns 5 ай бұрын

@ExtraordinaryPeoples Thanks! The whole "Universal screws Walt. Walt creates a superior competitor" story reminds me of the "Disney screws Jeffery Katzenberg. Katzenbeeg creates a competitor." Of course, it didn't pan out for Katzenberg in the way that it did for Walt, but none the less.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

I mean, it worked out pretty well for Katzenberg. He beat Disney (and Pixar) to the first Oscar for Best Animated Feature, and created Disney's first really serious animation rival.

@AlexxxMYLSince2013 4 ай бұрын

5:56 Wait wasn't Pete the first Disney Cartoon character?

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 4 ай бұрын

I explain that less than half a minute after the timestamp in your comment.

@AlexxxMYLSince2013 4 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Yep i noticed, i was lazy and didn't erase this comment xD

@juanfierro7365 5 ай бұрын

Where was Tex Avery in all this?

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 5 ай бұрын

I mean, I could have mentioned him, but I didn't feel like he was really relevant to the story. 🤷‍♂️

@yosefdemby8792 6 ай бұрын

13:03 Felix was a true character as well.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

Not the way Oswald was. Oswald had a personality and character traits that drove the plot and jokes of his cartoons. Felix didn't really, at least not nearly to the same degree. Felix was arguably more of a vehicle for situational jokes.

@yosefdemby8792 6 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Felix had a personality. Here’s some of the traits film historian Donald Crafton pointed out: he’s a pacifist who is driven by hunger, but if pushed around too much he fights back. He’s a Good Samaritan who’s willing to help those in need. He can also be a rather lecherous cat.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 6 ай бұрын

So, I'm talking more about how his personality was used in the cartoons. I'm not saying he didn't have a personality at all; I'm saying that it didn't drive the plot and jokes of his cartoons nearly to the degree that Oswald's did.

@yosefdemby8792 6 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Okay.

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

23:51 1950s actually.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

To my knowledge, the only Woody Woodpecker cartoons Oswald cameoed in were in the 1940s. Unless you know the name of one in the 50s that Oswald appears in.

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Animat said it. Am just going by what he said.

@ExtraordinaryPeoples 3 ай бұрын

Well, he's wrong.

@55twintv39 3 ай бұрын

@@ExtraordinaryPeoples Ok