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The Survey Corps members who are opposing Eren are the only ones who stayed true to their principles, the Survey Corps fight for humanity, not for a nation or an empire.

One life lesson I have learned from the final season is that “we are all villains to some else’s story.”

I like how Eren called Zeke's Euthanisia plan 'Fucked up'. And then went on do Genocide. 🤣

To be fair to Jean.. Reiner kept pushing the topic when he told him to stop. Understandable rage moment. Jean is such an amazing character he's changed so much from the first season. Still in love with the same woman who don't love him in that way, but love her and his friends even Eren to stop his genocidal plan.

This analysis missed the mark in my opinion because it makes the common mistake most AoT analysis do: it presumes that Eren's actions are motivated solely by hatred rather than logic, despite Iseyama blatantly showing us otherwise. And in making that assumption, I feel it completely misses the point the author was trying to make. Let me explain (essay incoming) We've definitely seen how bigotry, prejudice, xenophobia, and grief are all emotions that motivate violence in the world of AoT, there is no disputing that. But does that hold true for Eren's genocide? Maybe. After all, in the moments where his rumbling meets landfall or where he's influencing his father, he seems hateful and angry. It is also true that Eren once said he wished to eradicate all his enemies and make them suffer in the worst way, but it's clear from when Reiner brings this up in the basement conversation that Eren barely remembers this. Eren goes on to say he used to feel that way, but then he slept under the same roof as Marleyans and realized that life outside the walls is the same as inside. He reiterates this understanding later in his conversation with Historia. This is Iseyama hinting to us that Eren has moved beyond simple emotions and is operating on a more logical level, even if his emotions aren't entirely removed. Let's look at what Eren knows: 1) After kissing Historia's hand at the end of season 3, Eren has knowledge that the Rumbling is predestined. 2) Eren has his father and Eren Kreuger's memories of Marley, and knows how deep the prejudice and violence against Eldians runs. He knows that the Marleyans and other Eldians wish for the deaths of all Eldians on Paradis Island, a sentiment confirmed to us by Gabi. 3) We know from the war meeting at the beginning of season 4 that the entirety of the world is planning a genocide on Paradis Island to seize the island's valuable natural resources and "eradicate" the threat of Eldians once and for all. We also know that the attack is imminent, within the next year. 4) When Historia brings up the fact that many of the dead will be innocent just like his mother, Eren agrees. However, he believes that the only way to end the cycle of hatred they're trapped in is with this genocide. This is an argument from logic, not emotion. 5) Eren waited to see if there was a chance at peace before departing from the group. He attended Eldian rally fully hoping that there was some peace that could be found, only to come away disappointed. 6) Eren waited to attack Marley and kill innocent people until after Willy declared war of Paradis, setting into motion the genocide of his people that we saw being planned at the beginning of Season 4 Tl;dr: Eren is able to empathize with the innocent Marleyan's after spending time with them, but believes that this is a zero-sum game where someone is going to do a genocide, and he'd rather kill than watch his friends be killed. Furthermore, Eren's genocide is the culmination of the show's logic. The Jeagerists follow Eren for the same reason they followed Erwin - they believe that only a devil who casts aside his humanity can truly change the world. Levi, Hange, even Erwin himself expressed this belief about Erwin; he stood atop a pile of innocent bodies - ordered thousands to their deaths - for what he believed in. You can't love Erwin and hate Eren without being a hypocrite, imo. Armin articulates this same logic when talking with Bertholdt in the forest of trees, saying that someone who's unwilling to sacrifice their humanity can achieve nothing. He goes on to compromise his morals time and time again (tricking Bertholdt into thinking Annie was being tortured, bombing the Marleyan port) under this spirit of "becoming a monster to beat monsters." Bertholdt returns the favor by saying "someone has to be the one to stain their hands with blood", and when Armin refuses this responsibility he simply forces Connie to be the one to get his hands bloody, otherwise they would've both been shot to death. Eren's genocide is the logical conclusion of all of this. He has become the monster to defeat monsters. He is bloodying his hands so no one else has to. And he's doing all of this because he sees no logical alternative. I also think it's a terrible mischaracterization to say that the anti-genocide coalition is somehow running on logic. Hange herself admits that she has no plan to stop the counter-genocide on Paradis, nor any way to convince the rest of the world to let go their prejudice of Eldians. When she says "genocide is wrong" there's no qualifying logical argument to go along with it, it's being driven by emotions. Magath and Annie are supposedly fighting for their loved ones, but when that reason evaporates their motives don't change, so apparently it wasn't driven by that logic. It's accurate to say they've risen above prejudice, however that doesn't mean they're doing this out of logic. I think Iseyama's point is the exact opposite: he's asking us to disregard both bigotry *and* logic in favor of emotional empathy. Or maybe, they're no different from Eren and everyone that came before him - killing people because they think it's the right thing to do.

It should be noted that Eren doing the rumbling wasn't entirely about revenge. In the end, he knew of only one way to save his friends and end the Titan curse was through one way. Was that worth it? That's up to the reader or viewer. But to Eren, who made it very clear what he wanted to do from the start, he was the only way to win. Attack on Titan is definitely about not being able to solve all the world's problems. Genocide was always going to be the endgame, regardless of who won in the end.

Did you actually watch the anime? I recommend you rewatch season 4 part 1 - the basement scene. Eren clearly states (and Im not sure how you could have missed this) that he first hated Marleyans, but then he slept under the same roof, ate the same food and as he spent time he started to realize that we're all the same. We're all just victims. Anger or hatred towards a group of people was not the reason. Neither was it the desire to protect his nation. Despair and desire to protect friends was one reason, sure. People don't seem to realize that Eren already had won when he destroyed the entire fleet in Liberio with just a few Titans (like 5-10% of the whole Rumbling), theres one far more sinister reason. The Rumbling wasn't because he wanted to save his friends and Paradis. Do you want to know the main reason? The worst reason of all? The outside world disappointed him. He wanted exploration, adventure, action! Fighting big bad monsters, visiting new places with Armin and his friends, seeing the desert, the jungles, the oceans, the icy mountains all for the first time and and and. And once he reached the Ocean what did he get? An ENTIRE WORLD that was already FILLED with people. The realization that he's been living a lie. That everyone outside the walls wants him and his friends dead. That theres no way to negotiate peace. "That everything is just like in my fathers memories.". But whats worse: deep down he knows that the genocide is just his selfish desire to change the world to his liking. Thats why he said "Im just like you Reiner... no, Im even worse!", because Reiner destroyed the walls, not because he wanted to protect his mom or help Marley. No, Reiner wanted to be a hero. Thats why he's so suicidal. Reiner realized that he killed thousands for the selfish reason of being praised by a few others. And Eren understands this BEFORE he commits the genocide. Eren realizes the hypocrisy and knows that he will still go through with the Rumbling. Eren is even worse. Eren cant fight his childish urges. He's a child at heart (he is 19 if you forgot, the brain doesnt mature fully before the age of 25). And if that wasnt enough, he also had to obtain his OWN future memories. He saw the future and tried to change it, but everything happened just like in the future vision. Imagine that: Realizing that you will never be able to change any outcome. That everything is set in stone and you're just left there to observe and suffer. What Eren saw beyond the sea was the worst possible thing for a child like him. Fatalism. The realization that he would be a slave to fate until he dies. That no one is truly free. That we're all just victims of fate. Even the boy who desired freedom above all else. I love Wisecrack, but honestly I find it offensive when you nitpick the story parts that fit your arguments, while ignoring many others. I know Attack on Titan isnt easy to understand, it takes most people at least a reread or rewatch, but please do your research a bit more. You're misrepresenting Isayamas message. Eren is a victim of his own desires. We all are. Thats Kennys final message and the chapter of his death was released along Attack on Titans last chapter, to hit home the message once more. Kenny could have taken the spinal fluid, but chose to die a human, despite always desiring titan powers. Erwin could have jumped over the wall, visited the basement and fulfilled his dream of finding out if his father was right. But he chose to let go of his desire and instead Erwin lead the suicide charge. Both died with smiles on their faces. Both were happy. Let go of your desires and only then will you be free.

actually, Eren doesnt hate marleyans, he understands that they are innocent and arent responsible for anything, yet he loves his friends more than them, and he was given a choice between saving his friends or sparing the people who want to kill his friends

Just a little aside: Eren didn't decide to enact the Rumbling after visiting Marley and attending the summit. He decided to do it before he went there. When you see him speaking to Floch and Historia about his plan, that happens before he goes to Marley (which also debunks the theory that he was the father of Historia's child - the timing doesn't line up). That's why he constantly compares himself to Reiner now. They both decided the people across the sea were their enemy before ever meeting them... and afterwards, when they got to know them, it was far too late anyway.

I love wisecrack videos but these media analysis videos are very frustrating when it's clear that person who wrote them isnt familiar with the source material. The core of eren's character is the fact that he lost the illusion of free will and how he struggles with it. The core theme of aot is determinism and how one's environment shapes their behavior, there's tons to talk about on this topic. Focusing on stoicism misses the mark completely

Eren's future self has already chosen his life, he fights for freedom, but himself has none.

It might sound insane but Attack on Titan actually helped me through a lot of terrible moments in my life. I’ve been living with a very serious depression and other mental health issues and Attack on Titan up until its last moment taught me how to live on even when it seems pointless. I do believe it can teach stoic beliefs and I believe it is such an important piece of media that should be adapted into future history. Also to teach about war, suffering and the “enemy” that was ourselves all along. I’m forever grateful to Isayama-sensei for this beautiful work of legendary art.

r/titanfolk will sure be triggered by this video

Tbh, I don't think it's a bad assessment nor a bad video, but I feel much more could have been explored. The first video where it was explored under the light of the Carl Smchmitt fascist ideology was much more sharp, and I say this because, fascism cannot be boiled down to just emotions, ideology cannot be boiled down to the irrational. Hell, it's been ages since pure rationality was thoroughly questioned and "updated", also, the Jaegerists justify it not on the basis of emotions but on the values of self preservation, the rational (normal) "desire for survival". The problem is the justification of genocide, because those ideas drive their actions. So, the rebuttal should be on those grounds. Personally, I'd choose to talk about "Ends and Means", I'd go to Aldous Huxley here (1937), but I'm sure as long you don't pick a fascist ideologue it'd enough. Besides, you could always talk about fascism and ideology and it'd be better.

I just wish Henge had a better alternative to Erin's genocide than, "we'll figure it out later." Because as it stands, the alternative is Issac and The King Behind the Walls. Sacrificing your own people for the sake of world peace.

Even though Eren is someone who is often fueled by emotion, he never wavered from his principles of freedom. He wanted his friends to be free from living behind the walls, wants historia not to have to be eaten by her kids, wants Armin to not have to die to the curse of ymir, even though he does have hate for the world for their treatment, his decision in the end is logical, commiting genocide and becoming the ultimate monster is what will give my friends the best life, I'm gonna die in a few years anyway, I can at least give my life for them.

You should've talked about the part where Eren tells his plan to Historia, there it is shown that he knows what he is doing is an extreme response which will result in the death of countless innocents but he does it as it is the only way he sees to save those he cares about, he knows there's good people outside the island, like the refugees, and even in Marley, like Falco but he is willing to sacrifice them all to protect his friends, even if those same friends end up hating him for it, at least that way there will be no need for more titan shifters and none of them will have to inherit his titan and die 13 years later Eren isn't really motivated by hate (his words to historia and Mikasa really show that he would prefer another solution but he is frustrated that after all that time, he could never find it), but it is as he said, if he sees that someone is willing to take his freedom away, he will not hesitate to take theirs first, only this time this "someome" is the rest of the world

“The Expanse” is a philosophical masterpiece!

Can't help but feel like this video whiffed on discussing the fact that Erin's motivations are actually very logical given that the only way to stop the world from annihilating Paradis is to annihilate the world first. Season 4 Erin definitely believes the rumbling is the only way to stop the extinction of his people. The nations of the world already hate Eldians, put them in concentration camps, use them as child soldiers. They would have destroyed Paradis decades ago if it wasn't for the possibility of the rumbling. Recently they have become more and more emboldened to attack anyway, as seen by Marley sending Reiner and his gang of child soldiers to massacre Paradis and murder Erin's mom. Obviously, genocide bad. But come on, this whole show isn't nearly as cut and dry as you try to make it out to be.

"To Your Eternity" would be a good series to do a philosophical analysis of.

The thing about Eren's decision is not just that it's motivated by anger and/or fear, but also that as far as he can see, no one, and I mean NO ONE has given him a believable plan B for his extreme plan A. Marley was attacking Paradis ruthlessly even as they were nothing but an out of time village of trapped farmers. Would anyone in the world trust them enough not to attack them when they actually have such a destructive power as the rumbling at their command? The answer is no, very much NO in the world of the series. So, the only way he can prevent his people from being bombarded out of existence is a pre-emptive strike. Shock and awe to it's maximum degree. Do a philosophy episode on Babylon, please. That's another anime that wears its philosophical themes on its sleeve but it's soooo underrated.

I don't think there are heroes in aot. It's very clear that the alliance are just choosing which genocide is right and which genocide is wrong You can say they will try to negotiate peace after they stop the rumbling but they clearly said that they had no plan for afterwards and what makes you believe that the people that couldn't negotiate the jeagerists out of their hatred to the outside world and had to resort to violence (they just happen to be the stronger and more luckier side) could talk the world out of their hatred to paradis? Especially after they saw again their horrible actions (they don't even need to play the "my great grandpa 100 years ago suffered from eldian rule" they can just say "the rumbling you caused damaged my life) Eren,floch and the jeagerists are not right but the alliance are not right either It's just people fighting for what they perceive is right (jean for example isn't simply fighting to save lives but because he himself can't live with the idea that his happiness came about because of genocide so if he didn't have a conscience then he wouldn't even try to go against the rumbling)

This guy knows his philosophy the definitions and history behind it but applies it inaccurately to the characters in the show. Seems more like he's only looking at the characters at face value and applying a very un nuanced reasoning to their actions. For instance Eren Jaeger looks like he's acting on emotion but the details of the story very clearly paint the idea that despite how he feels he's acting in the most cold and logical way he can

I've been waiting for this video for 2000 years 😂😭😂😭

Never clicked faster, someone needs to explain to me this final season

Arcane is a great show to do a Philsopher's React. Or maybe a Deep or Dumb.

Thank you so much for yet another fantastic video 🙏🏼 Can you cover the third and final part of the last season? I’m very curious to get your take on free will and freedom and what those mean if the future and the past occur in the present.

I really like that the first person Jean apologized to wasn't Reinar but Gabi. It kind of goes back to what Sasha's dad said about Adults having to carry the burden that children shouldn't have to. Jean not forgiving Reinar is him saying that its Reinars and his own responsiblity as the adults to hold onto their hatred and not pass it on to Gabi and Falco because they are just kids. They didn't do anything wrong, they were just forced to believe to that their race was a curse

I'm fully expecting an exploration and discussion about the ending once the anime gets there.

There was no other way.

Finally after catching up I can watch all this videos I've been putting away!

From Erik Killmonger to Eren Yeager, millions of marginalized groups have felt the passionate urge to give into hatred, in response to their oppressors, and these characters exemplify what that emotion's like. "If they want my people to be Devils then I'll give them a Devil" is what's being shown here, with the righteous path being that the oppressed people having the burden of being the better person. I feel that Attack on Titan S4 is doing what good storytelling should, evoking empathy for an audience that would likely feel distant from the characters' circumstances.

Ahhh... Jean knew Reiner can heal. Plus what they did to Marco, Jean hurt from the most and is just now learning what we have known for a few years now. I love more the next moment where he apologises to Gabby and really understands her position in killing Sasha. But then turns to Reiner and clearly states: You don't get an apology.

Hello guys, amazing work as always. Could you consider doing a philosophy of wolf's rain please?

Jean really has grown as a character in the show. From the selfish only looking for himself and his comfort fool in early season 1 to the reluctant "damm this is not because of you Eren" joining of the scouts to "I'll forever be a scout." He can pursue comfort all he wants, but he knows where he belong.

One of the reasons why Eren goes with the rumbling is because he can actualyy see all the suffering Ymir went through her material life (and the pain that implies + Grisha + Kruger + etc) through all their memories, which it's an interesting concept (people are their memories?). He really has an overview of the conflict, but in the end he can't stop being the hot headed "Eren Jaeger". This is a pretty messed up story, but Isayama portraits it beautifully in anime shonen fashion.

Eren's decision to use the rumbling was not just motivated by a desire to save the Eldians, but also, it was the only way to free the Marlyans from their own fear. He understood that the entire history of the titans had left a scar in humanity that could not be erased even with the destruction of all the Eldians. Without the rumbling, the future of humanity would have been for ever marked by fear and weakness. In a way, it was the same decision the biblical God made when he used the flood.

This was the episode I was waiting for.

It’s a morally gray area when the whole world declared war on you and either you are wiped out now or in the future which happened I think so it’s a fight to truly protect you’re people forever but I think people would be on eren side if he said he was only gonna wipe out Marley it’s a tale of the underdog no longer wanting to be beat down and going all out

Oh man. This is a very complex story and makes you wonder about our identity and existence. Hope to see a philosophical discussion about the anime Shaman King and its message on redemption and forgiveness

Do the philosophy of Reiner that just wants to die and no one let him

Hey I love your work! Please do a video on Moral Orel! I don’t see many of them and I think it’d be really interesting to hear your take on it!

I would love a Vinland Saga video covering the monk/priest and Canute's philosophy on life in the second half of the season

Being a slave to freedom is hard to get over.

Amazing video!! I would have enjoyed an analysis about the scene when connie shot his former companion to save the plane.. It was a hard decision to do if we think about the morality of that choice.

Anime is becoming VERY mainstream and I can't blame it lol. So much depth and philosophy behind lot of them stories. From "To you, in 2000 years" in 2009 to "From you, 2000 years later" in 2021, AOT definitely deserves the attention it's getting

I was happy to hear the nod towards remaining present. It’s such an effortless, blissful and beautiful way to be

Stoicism is the least interesting philosophical thing about this season. Marleyian troops are trying to wipe out Paradis for the greater good (kill or be killed). Eren is trying to wipe out the entire world except for Paradis (recognizing that the rest of the world will always want to wipe out Eldians cuz of their monster-transforming-ability). And even Armin, Mikasa, Annie, and Reiner are fighting for the greater good, and slaughtering their comrades. This, right after they were reasoning to themselves that Eren's large-scale sacrifice is not worthwhile, they make a sacrifice in kind (killing their friends). The bigger theme in the season is means-to-an-end mindset, and kill or be killed (world before and after nuclear deterrence). Many characters keep going forward despite all of the suffering they incur, to get to a new area, an area that might be a heaven or a hell.

I would disagree with Michael on Jean's outburst. Here is my reasoning: Jean was following stoicism (as per Wisecrack content) and did not deviate from his principles even when he was beating up Reiner. You see, any interaction with Reiner at this point of the story is not going to follow any philosophical rules/axioms because of how fractured and broken Reiner is from inside and so any actions by any character in response to Reiner, in my reasoning, will be exception to the character's (Jean's) principles rather than a rule. Jean was stoic. In fact, Jean even let go of Marco's death and the involvement of Marleyan warriors but Reiner in his self loathing and guilt brought about an exceptional situation where Jean , and I would argue, keeping in accordance with his principles acted with violence that healed more than hurt. How? Reiner is a Titan, I don't think he would've enacted the same violence on Gabi (he even stopped after hitting Gabi). Moreover, his action did not make a single person worse off and nor did he act unjustly. Again I say, my disagreement is highly contextual because of Reiner alone. Wisecrack, possibly forgot Reiner's character (the entirety of Reiner as a person) and simply assumed him to be like other somewhat normal characters (when clearly he is not) and thus assuming Reiner to be worse off from this whole event/interaction. Do keep in mind, Reiner is not at all in okay mental space. Yes, he is resilient but he is not OKAY.

Good video. Also I was expecting you to address the stoic moment Mikasa had with Louise

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I'd argue that, in the manga at least, Eren isn't so much driven by emotion as he is by a deeply twisted and cold, logical calculous; everyone in the outside world wants us dead, they out number us to an impossible degree, the only way to prevent our own destruction is to balance the scales out so that they no longer have the capacity to do so, which can only be achieved by nearly obliterating them. Where as those opposing him aren't acting on purely logical principles - the notion that one would have any capability of stopping Eren giving his power is, on the face of it, illogical to the point of absurdity - but are acting on emotion, whether that emotion be a desire to defend their homeland & people for the Marlayan contingent or simply sheer horror at the lengths Eren is going to for his fellow members of the Survey corps, or a desperate need to save him from himself for Mikasa.

Interesting video for sure, but in time of war I don't think the stoism philosophy on how to live a good life actually matter. If Eren doesn't commit to the rumbling everyone he love will die, the world has already decided that Eldian people are the enemy. The only way I think to resolve this conflict is to have a peace negotiation, and the only way to have a leverage as a small island of Paradis is the Rumbling. so I think every thing is going perfectly according to plan until we get to see part3. Maybe that's just me, what do you guys think?

I would love to see you react to The Sinner Season 3! Each season has it's own story and I think the story in season 3 would be great to dissect :) Cheers!

AaaAaaah i just found your videos! So interesting. I haven’t check all your videos, but have you seen psyho pass? Can you do that anime?

Eren did nothing wrong, but he definitely did something wrong...

Genocide is wrong but logically if Eren wanted to keep eldia safe Genocide was his only option it wasn't just driven by emotions as they tried exploring alternatives to their problems with disappointment. Thats why eren broke down crying because he knew what he was going to have to do to save his loved ones. The world nations wanted all eldians dead. How are you supposed to convince them otherwise? You cant especially when your enemies are multitudes more advanced technologically by 100 years. Titans were starting to become obsolete with more powerful weapons. Not saying i agree with eren, but i understand him. If i were in his shoes I'd probably commit Genocide too as a last result likely i wouldn't be able to live with myself after but I'd still do to to keep everyone i care about safe.

Man I love the double flip with knees on the wheel. But I shall try to correct myself more often.

Please do video on the Attack on Titan ending! Theres a lot to unpack there philisophically! Especially in regards to free will and the cycle of war.

The fact of the matter is, the rumbling is the only way to ensure Eren's people their safety. They pleaded MANY times that they do not want war and they fell on deaf ears every single time. They were pushed into a corner and now Marley wants to cry victim because the war they started and kept instigating, didn't go their way. Hell, even Magath said they were completely in the wrong. People say there's no good or bad side in this series ... they're wrong! And Magath straight up said it. Marley messed up big time and they're reaping what they sowed. This was the ONLY way for the Eldians to thrive in a world where literally everyone, even their own brainwashed kind, hated. I don't sympathize with those Eren kills. He doesn't owe the world anything when all they tried to do was wipe them out. Eren did nothing wrong.

I love all your episodes but I don't get how stoicism is related here. One could argue that Eren himself is very rational and the principles that our guys follow does not necessarily follow from logic or at least the line of reasoning is not presented in the show. I feel like there are other concepts that you guys could touch upon like "Freedom" that Eren is striving for. After all this is how Eren convinced the girl in the interdimensional hub thingy to give him all the power. I would have loved to hear your opinion on that. I feel there are many parallels in the story with world war 2. I think Modernism vs Postmodernism is a better fit but I understand that this may be less applicable to the show because the show focuses on individuals tensions more. I don't know I'm a STEM guy pls help.

Thank you, finally I understand the reason of alliances

Thought about the nape thing and im really surprised that not even hange got the idea to build some type of large nape protection that covers the neck.

Honestly the best mix of content in a video, my favourite anime and my favourite philosophy all in one

Hmm. While the rumbling is definitely not virtuous or moral, I do think it's logical from the Eldians' perspective. Self preservation is logical, even if it's amoral sometimes. Thank you for the great commentary.

If you’re going to do videos on the history of philosophy, is Adorno on the schedule? I’m going to read his “Philosophy of New Music” for my doctorate, but wasn’t sure if there was anything of his I should read before that to get the gist of his thoughts. Thoughts?

Jean is where he is today because he continues to do what's right. Whether that means putting others before himself or having to kill Eren to stop worldwide genocide or even forgetting his dream of being an MP because he's a talented Scout who can actually help to save humanity. He's always had a great moral compass and his character development is one of my favorites. Great video! 🤘

Wow I’m early. Good video to be early too. Long live the Rumbling!

Great video, Michael. So much of how AOT will be perceived over time will come down to what actions Mikasa chooses to do in the final part of the final season haha

Soukyuu no Fafner definitely deserves a deep philosophical dive. It targets things like guilt vs duty, existence vs non-existence, and a bit of stoicism vs passion

Great video, good job. Do you think Levi is stoic?

what are your thoughts about the idea that eren, as the attack titan, was able to see into the future, and that if he did not launch the rumbling, paradis would have been destroyed?

i dont think eren did the rumbling to take revenge specifically, he just wanted to protect his people in the walls bcoz he already saw the future of them getting ambushed by the entire world's militaries. If eren did what armin said (just warn the world with rumbling instead of genocide) the world will caught up with the titans with their modern weapons and still will ambush them. Eren have no choice but to do it. At that point, it's either the walls will be wiped out or the world.

It reminds me of that line from one of the Brooklyn 99 episodes "Cool Motive. It's Still Murder." (please let me know which episode it was in, Comment Section)

Gotta be the best thumb. Erin (of all people) standing over his father gently whispering "peace be still" like anime Jesus...

king Floch

I know people love subtitles for anime but the dubbed version of this show is really good actually

Love this! I did NOT expect a philosophy on stoicism to come from this season of aot but I think it makes a lot of sense! Would y'all be interested in doing a philosophy take on Made in Abyss?? I'd never call it dumb, but I'm curious if there's a deep philosophical approach with the show or not. Even in just one season it's really intense and the characters are all unique and vastly interesting. But most mysterious of all is the Abyss itself, essentially it's own character.

That scene with armin jumping into the titans mouth almost made me cry oh my god

“Don’t bully me after beating me up & don’t beat people up, it’s not good” made me roll my eyes SO HARD given the context of this moment in the show.

Was there ever an alternative plan to Eren's for saving the island? Or was it just, stop the rumbling then die?

Never been so early and I have never loved it so much

Michael what do you say about the recent corruption of stoicism by investors and marketers?

Like armin said " one has to abandon ones humanity, in order to overcome monsters". The alliance is emotionally driven as is eren and one can justify both parties actions but i rather take erens side in all this since he wasnt the aggressor but is merely fighting for his and the bands life, the existence of paradis and and their right to live......this are noble things in my book.

I wanted you to talk about the conflict between Jaegerists and The Alliance. Like, who is actually right and who is actually wrong. I know there's nothing wrong or right in AOT but still the means to achieve goals of both groups are questionable from a philosophical point of view.

Kinda want to see your views on fundamental 00. It also focused on hatred and understanding between humans. As well as conflict between nations

The Philosophie of stoicism gets even more present and clear when you look at the final conclusion of the last episode. I dont want to spoil but on hand there is the ultimate sacrifice of all personal interests for the greater good whilst on the other hand you have emotionally driven extremism that leads to such terrible acts that the character breaks under the guilt when rational thinking sat in. Also the philosophy of determinism w.r.t. time is very prevelant throughout the series and is pretty highlighted in the last episode. Edit: i hope you do another video about the last episode

Of course Annie didn't want to fight Mikasa anymore. She would've kicked the sh*t out of her

The greatest thing that AOT fans hate is when characters show emotion and this is backed up by chapter 139 over one single panel

Please do more AOT content Wisecrack. We love them so much.

Isayama said in an interview that he does not have an idea or message he wants to convey by Aot. He said, "If there is, and if the reader feels hurt by reading the work, I am happy to write Aot. He also said in an interview for the 2016 film of Berserk that he was emotionally invested in Griffith's massacre regarding the Eclipse ritual. "Let's goooo." In other words, the controversial massacre of Eren is simply a tribute to Griffith. It doesn't seem to have any particular meaning. This can be seen from what Isayama said. "I didn't expect so much discussion about the massacre." He never had anything more than the idea of drawing manga in his spare time. It was simply his talent for entertainment. In a sense, pure entertainment. It is mere entertainment, the kind of entertainment that doesn't need the kind of criticism that doesn't think, or think, that no matter how many monsters you hunt in Monster Hunter, the ecosystem will be affected, that Pokemon is pet abuse, and so on.

So what's the right thing for eren to do? What's the right thing for the people of paradis to do? Everyone is quick to condemn but yet providing no solutions

AOT is the most thought provoking (in a good way) show I have ever watched. it has made me really consider things I never thought about before. At the very least it's much better at philosophical themes than 98% of other show's

Yo is there any meat on the bones of the 4 Three Houses routes? That game has a LOT going on in those 4 paths

The only logic Marley had was believing their own lie of all Eldians being in on the plan to use the rumbling to wipe out humanity which only served as self-fulfilling prophecy

Are you a philosopher ?

"Can stoicism save the day?" Yes. Yes, it does.

Hi wisecrack, have you even seen the show from season 1?

The ending was so depressing because it shows that peace can never be achieved since Paradis and the rest of the world is still at war decades later. And it also hints that Ymir and Eren might not have been the first 2 founding titans and could be just 2 insignificant people in an infinite cycle of titans