A Pretty Luxury Gear List for 500 miles on the HRP

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Chase Mountains

Chase Mountains

Күн бұрын

Gear loadout before I start the Haute Route Pyrenees. The first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/chasemountains08211
I've cut down about 4kg/8 pounds from my gear last year, yet this selection of gear is still pretty comfortable. Let me know what you think in the discord or in the comments!
Worth noting that the sunglasses i used on this trip broke half way through, now I'm only using ever using Vallon classics! They can't be broken! glnk.io/y31nz/chase-mountains
5.5kg Lightweight gear list - LIGHTER PACK
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0:00 - 0:32 - Intro
0:32 - 2:49 - Clothing (worn)
2:50 - 3:28 - Hip Belt & Filming Gear
4:27 - 6:00 - Trekking Poles & Water Storage
6:01 - 7:05 - Sleeping Pad & Outer Pack
7:06 - 8:11 - Wind/Rainwear
8:12 - 9:14 - Skillshare
9:15 - 10:10 - Pack Liner
10:00 - 11:40 - Cold Soak & Kitchen Kit
11:41 - 13:16 - Bathroom & First Aid
13:17 - 14:30 - Electronics
14:31 - 15:12 - Shelter
15:13 - 17:40 - Night/Cold weather clothes
17:41 -19:28 - Sleeping Quilt/Poncho
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@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
The first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/chasemountains08211
@headlesspalace
@headlesspalace 2 жыл бұрын
The reason I love your gear list videos is because you have a good combination of hi-performance ultralight gear with the low budget (but incredibly good) gear such as the stuff we all love from Dechathlon. And as someone based in Europe it actually informs my own hiking practise rather than just looking at US gear that I'll never touch unless I sell my kidney for both price and postage. BIG UP CHASE!
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I’m going for. I just make the content I wish I could watch. Thanks!!
@francescadiana
@francescadiana 2 жыл бұрын
I was so surprised to hear that Decathlon actually offers quality options! 👏
@sarahlikescanoes
@sarahlikescanoes 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is too late for your HRP trek, but you might want to check out the Nemo Switchback foam pad. I used it for a season of trekking and found it incredibly comfy (significantly better than the Z-mat, which I've also owned). I needed something that would double as a lounge mat on all surfaces and survive my dog! The extra weight includes valuable insulation. It doubles up as a base mat under my Ether Light Sea to Summit inflatable mat when snow camping.
@andrewholmes2343
@andrewholmes2343 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck on your hike and hope you enjoy the fantastic scenery,thanks for all the info and tips from previous experiences,take care,look forward to your next/first video on the trail
@francescadiana
@francescadiana 2 жыл бұрын
I'll watch this many more times. I love the explanations as to multi usage of the items that you bring. I feel like that's really key to understanding why hikers choose to pack what they do. Cheers!
@DaftSmurf
@DaftSmurf 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hyped, can't wait for a new series of crossing the pyrinees :D good luck!!
@MiguelGomezMountainRunner
@MiguelGomezMountainRunner 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck! Just finished the middle 300 miles of the HRP on Aug. 11. It was without a doubt the hardest hike I’ve ever done. Warning: Don’t cross any of the high passes if there’s precipitation. I didn’t take it seriously at first. And then I did.
@dusanthemighty741
@dusanthemighty741 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck out there on the hike brother. Can't wait for the footage.
@milos-7712
@milos-7712 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Love these videos. Good luck on your hike👍
@wanttogo1958
@wanttogo1958 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck on your trek!
@KevinHoegler
@KevinHoegler 2 жыл бұрын
I literally can't imagine through hiking 500 miles. Best of luck and enjoy! I am not a through hiker, but I enjoy running in the mountains, I am happy you went over trekking poles, I need to get some!
@robinmaguire6705
@robinmaguire6705 2 жыл бұрын
Have a great walk Chase! Take care on those Technical Sections!
@EK-mx7zb
@EK-mx7zb 2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck and enjoy the heck out of your trip!
@elizabethmcgarry5253
@elizabethmcgarry5253 2 жыл бұрын
Looking to get into more thru hiking, as I've never done an overnight hike before. The bag and battery are two things I've really been wondering about, so this was very helpful.
@robertalynch5433
@robertalynch5433 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your journey. Be well and enjoy!
@michellebakerstoneledge
@michellebakerstoneledge 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Enjoy your thru Chase!
@TomCashTV
@TomCashTV 2 жыл бұрын
Super useful, thanks!
@benjaminthancock
@benjaminthancock 2 жыл бұрын
My Jetboil is probably considered a “luxury” item, but nothing boils quite as fast. The fuel efficiency over a long hike (and at elevation) is a variable worth considering. Finding an eco-responsible way to discard of used fuel canisters while on trail can be quite difficult, forcing many hikers to just chuck it into the first trash bin they find.
@natea1042
@natea1042 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the canisters is recycling companies dont want anything that can explode or cause a fire. Some will take them if you can visibly puncture the can. In terms of material its just scrap steel which is highly reclaimable. If your local recycling programs dont take them ask at the larger outdoor stores before sending them off to the land fill.
@catherineweaver9302
@catherineweaver9302 2 жыл бұрын
@@natea1042 Why not use Meths then...Speedster stove for example...
@natea1042
@natea1042 2 жыл бұрын
Those chemical tabs can stink something awful so personally I'm not a fan. Alcohol stoves are an okay alternative. The only problem with tabs or alcohol is you really can't do much more than boil a half a liter per meal. More than that and your fuel weight to burn time shifts heavily in favor of gas canisters.
@DrewJ79
@DrewJ79 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the Jetboil its the first and only cookware Ive bought. Its not that much more to carry either considering other types have multiple parts to them. The Jetboil packs everything into one canister.
@lifeinrussia5190
@lifeinrussia5190 2 жыл бұрын
Great clothes! Thank you for the video!
@turtlewolfpack6061
@turtlewolfpack6061 2 жыл бұрын
Just learning about that poncho quilt was worth watching the video!
@beyond_domestication
@beyond_domestication 2 жыл бұрын
A brilliant gear review. Can’t wait to see the hike footage. Altras are 100% barefoot community too! Just sounds like a smart decision to me over that distance than risking some Vivobarefoot or Xero! I want to try some Altra’s myself for longer hikes.
@JuanManuel-pk7zz
@JuanManuel-pk7zz 2 жыл бұрын
Cool material review. Thanks
@bronnythompson7932
@bronnythompson7932 2 жыл бұрын
Strong swift soulful trekking Chase! Have fun!
@Incredzible
@Incredzible 2 жыл бұрын
Would really recommend the Cnoc Vecto 2L soft flask bladder/ bit more durable than the hydrapaks. Really easy to fill as well! Also the MSR blizzard stake is cheap and a great deuce of spades alternative - much easier to get ahold of! Enjoy the hike!
@jrclark2479
@jrclark2479 2 жыл бұрын
My Opinel #12 is my favorite possession. It’s always with me on and off trail. 🙂
@dierijkdrent9921
@dierijkdrent9921 2 жыл бұрын
Very elegant kit! Although as an Aussie I can't get my head around a shelter with no bug mesh!😀 Thx for sharing Chase, can't wait to see how it all goes
@user-pn4py6vr4n
@user-pn4py6vr4n 2 жыл бұрын
Another Aussie here. I can intellectually understand why you would go without a bug mesh in the right climate, but just thinking about the absence of a bug mesh fills me with visceral horror and dread. We've got several sorts of ants and spiders that will completely ruin your week if they bite you, some spiders that can potentially murder you in your sleep, and well as 20 or 21 of the 25 most venomous snakes on the planet. As rare as it is for someone to actually die from a snake or spider bite in Australia, it does happen, and I'm not about to take any chances.
@TyQuinn
@TyQuinn 2 жыл бұрын
Hope that pack liner comes out soon! A proper DCF alternative to nyloflume but without the roll top and buckles of other companies designs. Quite like it!
@amadei2
@amadei2 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend another stove.I had the same one in the huayhuash in Peru and was super annoying to use cause of the wind. Btw in Europe decathlon sell some pretty nice dry food without ton of chemical in it. You have to dry to mash potatoes + beef !
@flyboy5168
@flyboy5168 2 жыл бұрын
Good Speed Chase !
@alyk
@alyk 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I also have the Merino stuff from Decathlon! It’s amazing. Just be careful with oil, I never got the spots out!
@asiam7436
@asiam7436 2 жыл бұрын
Great kit!
@k2thah286
@k2thah286 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you can ever go wrong with an insulated puffy that weights less than 10oz. Even if you have to hike in one on a very cold rainy day, they will always keep warm and dry out pretty quickly. Be well brother. Enjoy your hiking permagrin.
@joaotfs353
@joaotfs353 2 жыл бұрын
love to seea review on this quilt ;)
@natea1042
@natea1042 2 жыл бұрын
That sucks about the Uberlite. Literal years of hit/miss reports on that pad. I also feel the industry needs to move to 25" (635mm) pad width as a standard and 20" should be specialty. For the Uberlite short it would literally add around 30 grams. With the narrow lengths, as you said, you shift a little and you're on the ground. On the plus side Thermarest does have an excellent warranty. Hopefully you can exploit that in Europe unless you were able to straight up return it. The X-lite has a far better track record for reliability if you want to try again but has the same dimension limitations (short only available in 20" widths). Some people make that size work by sticking their pack under their legs so they sleep with legs elevated a bit which makes you less inclined to squirm.
@thomasravenscroft5184
@thomasravenscroft5184 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance of doing a review of that quilt? Very little info about it online but looks like a solid option for the price
@Thecornishhiker
@Thecornishhiker 2 жыл бұрын
Hey did you complete the HRP? I’m looking for the videos of the hike. I’m really looking forward to see it. Hoping to hike it this year. Never done a thru hike before so jumping straight in at the deep end 🤙
@billseay6399
@billseay6399 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Thanks Loving it big guy
@frostybloke
@frostybloke 2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck fella :)
@lifeinrussia5190
@lifeinrussia5190 2 жыл бұрын
The hat is good, the neck will not burn from the sun. On a hike in the GR-11, this was enough for me ..
@deannilvalli6579
@deannilvalli6579 2 жыл бұрын
Nice gear run down. The gorilla pod should be fine if it is new. Mine wore out after about 2 yrs of moderate use. The joints get too flexible and it just flops around and doesn't really support the camera weight after a while.
@LisetteLowe
@LisetteLowe 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love how you also have decathlon items in there. They really have some decent stuff, it can be hit or miss but that's usually worth it for me. How is the tarp tent? I used my lanshan 1 pro last year on the HRP and I had possibly the worst night of my life near Refuge de Baysellance. The thunder, wind, rain, hail, everything was just soo scary and intense and the stakes kept flying out. I was really happy that I made it through the night without the inside of the tent getting wet, but I'm not sure I'd use a trekking pole tent for this again... don't you get a lot of water inside your tent during thunderstorms?
@natea1042
@natea1042 2 жыл бұрын
The exposure to ground soak and splash up would be a concern for me with just a ground sheet as well. Hopefully he doesn't have any nights with heavy rain. The inner mesh he had at least has a bathtub floor for some protection from splash. As far as trekking pole tents most are really quite reliable. The problem with adverse weather is wind loading severely stresses the ground stakes. Add water to the ground and its like trying to get a stake to hold in butter. If you only had the thin nail or shepherd hook style it's no wonder you were miserable. Look into some MSR groundhogs. The minis work good for most weather situations but I feel it's always worth packing at least a couple of the standard size incase you need to stake out a side facing particularly high winds. After that start looking for rocks to brace the line/stakes.
@LisetteLowe
@LisetteLowe 2 жыл бұрын
@@natea1042 yes thanks for the tips! I do have MSR groundhogs. The thing is that the ground is really hard in the high Pyrenees, and I was camping in an especially rocky area with only a few patches of grass. I should have used the "2 rock" technique where you wrap your guy lines around a small rock and wedge a large rock before it. But I didn't know that technique yet back then so I just put rocks in front of my stakes, which did not help much when the stakes came out. I read you can get a great pitch with just rocks, so I'll have to try that next time! But the experience definitely scarred me a little bit from camping so high above the tree line in a trekking pole tent..
@natea1042
@natea1042 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisetteLowe Yea if you have enough rocks you can do the two rock method. Alternately you can just lay the stake flat and put as large a rock as you can in front of it. Same idea just with a stake instead of a small rock.
@bigpat989
@bigpat989 8 ай бұрын
With the Aussie accent Can Serrat sounds like something else. Good video mate hi from Tassie
@shoresy6183
@shoresy6183 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend you get the Vargo Dig Dig trowel. I have the Vargo Dig Dig and the Duece trowel and much, much prefer the Vargo Dig Dig.
@Coreycry
@Coreycry 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this Decathlon gear because it proves you can hike light, cheap, and with quality items! Their merinos stuff has the best quality/price ratio. Question about the Pillow, you wrote "90g outter only" , and visually it seems you kept the inflatable pouch inside? Have you found a trick I'm not aware of? Asking because I have it and my scale : 75g outter(foam) + 90g inner(inflatable) PS: got the Elementum Pack after seeing how much you liked it, loving it so far (coming from 3F UL 40+10L it's 102% more comfy), only complaint is the small outter/back pocket, planning on sewing a bigger one above the original (double pockets yo, my patent)
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
My bad that was supposed to say inner only, that’s the one I have on trail
@Coreycry
@Coreycry 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseMountains for anyone interested in a 8cm high pillow: I confirm the inner is enough, has a soft surface
@Thecornishhiker
@Thecornishhiker 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to be posting videos of the HRP walk? This summer what do I walk? Gr10 or HRP? I’ve never done a long hike before, I want wild nature but have little navigation experience. Any thoughts?
@elisabeththesecond
@elisabeththesecond 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video - up to what temperature do you use the zlite?
@jorisvanlaar
@jorisvanlaar 2 жыл бұрын
A nice and more environmentally friendly alternative for plastic bottles are the CNOC Vesica bottles
@TobyFieldhouse
@TobyFieldhouse 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re in the UK, Nitecore is a fair bit cheaper on Ali Express compared to Amazon. Might be similar in the EU!
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
I’m headed to London this Christmas so might do some online shopping!!
@TobyFieldhouse
@TobyFieldhouse 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseMountains you’d better order it now if you want it before Christmas!
@tarawaukeri8928
@tarawaukeri8928 7 ай бұрын
Always wondered what ounce is used. The bakers ounce is a couple grams less. Cheers for that!
@projectb3117
@projectb3117 2 жыл бұрын
I found you also have the Cortazu Jacket...what size do you have for your length? Thanks
@antoniomedrano2453
@antoniomedrano2453 Жыл бұрын
can you please show the quilt packed down
@sameerjoshi515
@sameerjoshi515 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the vargo dig dig tool, I think it's a better trowel than the deuce, stronger and more functional 😊👍 Which version of the PyraOmm shelter do you have, is it the duo?
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
Oh nice! Thanks! I have the duo yeah!
@sameerjoshi515
@sameerjoshi515 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseMountains you didn't get the A-frame connector then? 😄
@Tezrema
@Tezrema 2 жыл бұрын
What did you use to close up the hole on the side of your shoe??? Just happened to my lasportiva after 3 days and 40km🤦 of hiking.. super glue??
@WildEdgar
@WildEdgar 2 жыл бұрын
I am using tyvek bivy bag as a pack liner, ground cloth and by its original purpose(to sleep outside). It is very durable, even if feels like paper :))
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Did you make it yourself? That’s a really great idea
@WildEdgar
@WildEdgar 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseMountains I got 3F ul gear(they are decent, best on ali) bivy from aliexpress, it is 200gr and easily can be used for a single person tent smth like 210cmx90cm. But nowadays(in Caucasus) I am using it as a liner to keep my down sleeping bag and other stuff dry. It rains here a lot..
@DominiqueB
@DominiqueB 2 жыл бұрын
@@WildEdgar even in a supposedly "breathable" bivy bag, i end up with a somewhat wet sleeping bag - no rain or dew, just condensation from my body heat. I imagine it would be even worse with Tyvek? Could you share your experience with that?
@WildEdgar
@WildEdgar 2 жыл бұрын
@@DominiqueB Yeah..Kinda wet. Its a bit breathing but my sleeping bag isnt much, so need to upgrade it for less condensation everywhere
@markellison143
@markellison143 2 жыл бұрын
Are campsites always so exposed on your hikes? It seems like you’re set up well above tree line
@izabellab..
@izabellab.. 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this gearvideo! Enjoy your hike 😊
@ayushaj30
@ayushaj30 2 жыл бұрын
how do you manage the data recorded, during the treks?
@MartinLichtblau
@MartinLichtblau 2 жыл бұрын
Sleeping mat: Exped UL + Aluminium-Foam mat (used for car front window)
@Stormcloakvictory
@Stormcloakvictory 8 ай бұрын
You sure that's not an opinel 8? The 12 is like a 6" boning knife lol. Anyway I love both the swiss army knives and Opinels. They both come in all sorts of sizes. There's also 130mm long swiss army knives and 6cm long opinels. I kinda prefer the swiss army knives for camping/hiking. Because they always have multiple uses. Though I could see that for thru hiking the ridiculously low weight of the opinels is a great plus. As for carbon vs inox? The inox is hard enough and holds and edge like 99.8% as good as the carbon steel. I'd only advise knife nuts who like oiling their knives daily to get carbon.
@mmorbiolo
@mmorbiolo Жыл бұрын
To late for a quest? My gear is very similar to your and the cooking is exately the same. So gas resuply is ok? were you using small 100g gas canister or bigger for longer autonomy? oops I'm doing the GR11 and not the HRP.
@thecma3
@thecma3 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered the fuel burn of the BRS stove? I've heard it loses its weight edge when you consider how much fuel it uses vs. some more efficient stoves, but I haven't seen a proper comparison.
@barondavis5692
@barondavis5692 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that too. I got a 6oz Soto wind master. I used it and a small file canister to cook dinners only on the Colorado trail 20 nights.
@thecma3
@thecma3 2 жыл бұрын
@@barondavis5692 Nice! I bit the bullet and bought Jetboil's new way lighter cook system and have been really pleased with the weight savings from carrying so little fuel
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
Surely someone has done a comparison, I’ll take a look. But half the time I won’t be carrying gas at all.
@natea1042
@natea1042 2 жыл бұрын
It only uses a tiny bit more gas in a closed environment. All open flame stoves will use substantially more in wind as your boil times will soar as the flame is thrown around but the weight savings isnt lost unless you have to carry all your gas at once. If you can replace the cannisters as they run out at resupply points you're always going to be carrying the same weight. That said we're only talking ~55g to go from the BRS to a Windmaster 4 Flex.
@marisacherry
@marisacherry 2 жыл бұрын
What size food bag would you recommend for mountaineering (overnight) trips? Aka lots of snacks ;-)
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
I’d probably still get the 15L
@marisacherry
@marisacherry 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseMountains thanks! awesome video as usual
@user-mq9vg4tv2u
@user-mq9vg4tv2u Ай бұрын
What month did you do this hike? Preparing for the HRP starting second half of august, hoping to complete it by the end of September. Struggling to get my base weight under 7kg. Preparing for cold nights...any experience with the Pyrenees that time of year?
2 жыл бұрын
Hey I think the sleeping pad is wrong in the lighterpack link ;)
@euanhall1934
@euanhall1934 2 жыл бұрын
The lite way poncho/quilt looks interesting. How did you get on with it??
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
its epic, i love it! Bit light for winter trips tho 😅
@anonymmusik4475
@anonymmusik4475 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseMountains would you recommend it over the as tucas poncho quilt? I cannot find out how much the as tucas poncho weights and am unsure if it's worth spending the money on it since I have a sleeping bag that's aroung 800g. Put having a pocho and a quilt in one sounds so useful...
@stuartbowman4582
@stuartbowman4582 2 жыл бұрын
Hope it goes well. I can't help thinking that no bug protection is a mistake. I've seen lots of biting insects on the HRP near Lescun. At least a head net would help on the odd days it's a problem.
@Gedas3
@Gedas3 2 жыл бұрын
I am also interested why you don't use mesh anymore
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gedas3 no bug problems so far and I’m half way!
@outdoorcusco
@outdoorcusco 2 жыл бұрын
Hi bro 🤘 greetings from Cusco, Perú 🇵🇪
@Thecornishhiker
@Thecornishhiker 2 жыл бұрын
Had to watch it again 😂
@ItsMeHammie
@ItsMeHammie 2 жыл бұрын
Your entire 500mile kit weighs less than my day hike pack 😂
@luciano.a
@luciano.a 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't need wind pants, you can use the polycro as a rain skirt and ditch the pants. Otherwise, congratulations for dialing down your weight
@barondavis5692
@barondavis5692 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t like the Uber lite either but the x lite is real nice.
@yaro_s3155
@yaro_s3155 2 жыл бұрын
liteway💪🏼
@Thecornishhiker
@Thecornishhiker 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that kick! 🤣
@ponderosopine
@ponderosopine 2 жыл бұрын
I've had bad luck with the 20k Anker in the rain. A rain drop five miles away is enough to make it stop charging my phone 😬
@stalar2892
@stalar2892 2 жыл бұрын
I had no issues with mine in rainy weather...
@mezmerya5130
@mezmerya5130 2 жыл бұрын
it's good to live where it basically never rains for any significant amount.
@obsceneXerror
@obsceneXerror 2 жыл бұрын
one correction, your opinel looks like a no 7 not a 12. Great video, love your content.
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yes it could be! Someone reacted saying how it was the biggest one they make. I have no idea why I thought it was 12.
@z0uLess
@z0uLess 2 жыл бұрын
14:12 then opt out of apple
@skuzzycol
@skuzzycol 2 жыл бұрын
Stick with the shovel mate. I have a Deuce #2 and it's shite. Too small and it cuts into your hand when the grounds hard. Hate it!
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
Noted. It does look a bit slicey
@Coreycry
@Coreycry 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fortunate to always have rugged gloves(cold hands syndrome) so it helps with the Deuce in hard grounds. it also serves as an additional/backup stake
@barondavis5692
@barondavis5692 2 жыл бұрын
I wrapped the handle in some duct tape. Good.
@skuzzycol
@skuzzycol 2 жыл бұрын
@@barondavis5692 ooh, I will give that a go, cheers.
@Notharius1
@Notharius1 2 жыл бұрын
@@skuzzycol If the ground is hard than try to soften it up with a terkking pole. The carbide tip of the pole won't wear out so don't worry. After that just shovel out the soil, than repeat.
@MrDunk66
@MrDunk66 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, maybe you meant polarising filter not ND filter for the M50! 🇦🇺
@joeponthetrails
@joeponthetrails 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be a bit careful with those shorts. In my experience they are not so durable as the inside 'underwear' stretched significantly making it not so useful anymore if you know what I mean.
@MartinLichtblau
@MartinLichtblau 2 жыл бұрын
Pee jar and earplugs with 1m cord made giggle.
@chriskp
@chriskp 2 жыл бұрын
“Really cheap department store.. Corte Ingles” pff 😅 what!?
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 2 жыл бұрын
Department store not cheap, pants cheap hahahha
@markevanpowell2157
@markevanpowell2157 2 жыл бұрын
I see you unfortunately shared my experience with smelly polycryo
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