With Hulks, I'm pretty sure you can hit them in the face.

​@@spynix0718 Tried and had no luck, need high penetration, it has medium, but I could just be missing

I've been looking around KZfaq for videos about this recent weapon, as well as playing many missions with the Eruptor. This weapon is addicting to use and feels great all around. However, I always find myself in massive fights with this weapon as patrols seem to aggro more quickly to me, and more often. I am not a stealth player by any means. But when I run the Eruptor, I am consistently surrounded by large hordes of bots that are seemingly absent when I run the Scorcher. I have only seen a video from Eravin stating briefly that this weapon has an "insanely loud sound profile" that was "likely 100+ meters". No one else that I have found mentioned this at all and I would like to see someone explore this. I spent a little while testing this weapon by loading into secluded areas within level 9 missions, using the ping to measure myself about ~80-100m away from ambient bots, and firing at various angles towards and away from the targets with all three weapons. It seems that neither the Autocannon nor Redeemer could draw any aggro at these ranges from shooting in the air, or at the ground near the player. However, the Eruptor could inconsistently cause a bot to start shooting or fire a flare from both shots in the air and shots near the ground by the player. I have no idea if the shrapnel is causing this or not as I get no hitmakers, and I expect the shrapnel not to travel through the ground for these ground shots. My questions are: Does the Erruptor have a unique sound profile that will aggro enemies from these insane ranges of 80m+ or does the Eruptor's projectile's mid-air detonation with its shrapnel cause this aggro? Do bots get aggro'd based on the distance from the gunshot's origin (the player), the projectile's target (where the bullet lands), or a mix of both? In the Erruptor's case, do bots get aggro'd from the shrapnel landing near robots, and does this shrapnel landing also make a sound, which may cause latent patrols to suddenly converge and start massive fights? This will most likely lead to another discussion on stealth mechanics and how enemies react to sound mechanics within Helldivers 2 which will be hard to test. But I want to verify if this strange phenomenon of me fighting my ass off whenever I run this gun is not just a placebo with this gun. It would ease my mind to see if this gun is causing mass aggro from shrapnel ricochets or a weird sound level, and perhaps there may be some community insight from exploring how to control enemy aggression. Eravin's video link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9Nxha930Z2-no0.html TLDR: Eruptor feels like it aggros so many enemies at once and I have no explanation for it.

The main reason I want to try it for helldive bug missions 👀

You can kill the chargers in one shot as well if you hit them in the mouth, but it has to be in the mouth not the top of the head

I'm not so sure anymore lol I tried it today and it wasn't working. Maybe it was a bug that day. I'll keep trying lol

dominator can also do that i think

pre-nerf slugger my beloved

Great advice, thanks

I *KNEW* Reginald would do this. I even told Clay he would make a video on it. LMAO.

both of my goats, thank you guys for some of the best helldivers educational content

Its such a fun gun though. Weird AF and strong? My jam.

Thanks very much! I can't wait to see your side of that footage. It was a blast playing some games with you at last.

mvp

“Switching to your secondary is faster than reloading!”

I just figured this out myself. Although, it's worth noting that it seems like you can swap too fast, if you don't get far enough into the swap animation it won't cancel your re-rack of the shell, so you'll have the momentary swap and the re-rack animation, which is a little longer than before.

Or just Open strategem menu short

Yeah it's also a betta timing when you use the stratagem button instead because I got double tap triangle for support weapon instead of hold so I cant cancel efficiency switching to secondary.

I LOVE that it pulls the bugs back with the AOE

@@metro4noww I honestly think that may be a bug

@@Phillip_Viera damn I thought It was because the bullet force was so strong it creates a gravity pull on impact. Oh well I'll enjoy while it lasts, and hipe they don't nerf

@@Phillip_Viera It's several bugs actually! BUT HIGH COMMAND NEEDS US AT THE BOTS!!!

My guess is it's using the player as the centre for the AoE. That way, you ensure that all enemies are knocked back away from you in the same direction, rather than scattered. It's how City of Heroes handled it.

Thanks very much! And thanks again for the help. Wish I had made a stronger shoutout section for you but I ran out of time to record.

Hell yeah

I've been doing this as a habit now. It looks jank as heck but just amuses me greatly at this point.

If you reload with one in the chamber the moment you fired your second-last shot, the reload is comparable to the bolt time anyway

The hardest mission type: *Social Interaction*

definitely not intended (and maybe even placebo), you can cancel the boltpull with other options but it doesnt end up faster. they were just lazy and skipped making the bolt mechanics actual bolt mechanics, its just eyecandy to mask the bad fire rate

​@@theSato My only complaint is I just wish the animation was a little more interesting. I've seen games like BF1 that have awesome bolt pull animations that despite being slow, are at least entertaining to watch. The one for the Eruptor is just really sluggish. Yes, the fire rate is supposed to be slow but with how slow your divers works the bolt it makes it feel even slower.

I think you and I agree.

I run the same thing but swapped to a jump pack instead, i do not regret

The muscle memory from all those hours of Counter Strike/Halo/Call of Duty will finally pay off.

quickly bring up and put away the Stratagem menu.

Ive found the shield bp fixes that issue until they patch it. Not ideal yes but effective.

The only thing in cutting edge worth getting is stuns. The eruptor is very good and fun to use. The crossbow I haven't tried but everything else in this warbond is bugged or bad. So its eruptor or stun grenades lol.

I think the Sickle is a very good primary rifle, the best light pen rifle for damage output imo, but that leaves you with a gap for either medium or heavy AP depending on support weapon choice. I personally stan the Plasma Punisher on bots for its anti-medium and stagger capabilities (oneshots Striders, if you hit legs/sides, takes 3-5 shots for Devastators depending on variants, standard being slowest) but there's no denying that it's slow and hard to aim. Dagger is just there for an infinite ammo secondary. Awful damage output. Just use the Redeemer on Semi for saving ammo. Stun nades are goated for giving you breathing room but leave you unable to break holes or fabs. The Blitzer exists.

Its fun!

Personally I run it in a similar way, although I use the pocket smg instead of Senator as it’s a panic button in case anything gets within 7 meters of me. I typically run Quasar due to favorable matchups against anything the bots bring, and Backpack Shield for more survivability thanks to me typically running light or medium armor with extra impact grenades to pop mediums with, leaving me 1-2 free slots for mission equipment.

Thanks! It was hard to do on launch day im glad you enjoyed it.

Me too! I got to play stalwart into bots and actually had fun!

I love gyrojets.

Damn right. Don't think I haven't used a 380mm to make cover on open ground.

Thanks so much for your high praise!

Good point

Tried it, seems viable on bot 9

That was my goal. Glad I succeeded.

Rocket devs seem to die consistently to shooting the inner side of the rocket pods. The headsot from shrapnel and radius seems to do it most times.

Thanks!

Thats how I have been playing too

I love it too, JAR has the same thing going for it.

Same friend.

Hope I was a tad more accurate than the ones I called in yesterday...oof

Thanks for the update, yes its somewhat inconsistent for a few reasons but trends to the strong side. I think that's why so many people like it.

High praise, thank you!

A perfectly valid perspective. Post buff AMR can 1tap sentinel legs btw.

Gotta try it out. Thanks for the suggestion

People can be really bad about getting stuck with pre-conceived notions because they feel a tool should be a certain way. Case in point, the amount of people that felt the groundbreaker "should be" a flamethrower armor with fire resistance when there's nothing that communicated that before or after its release. Digression aside, I agree that the adjudicator isn't as bad as people are saying and will be interested in seeing Ryken's spreadsheet for it. What people need to understand is that a DMR is just a beefy assault rifle, battle rifle, or accurized assault rifle with a higher powered optic and is meant to cover the intermediate distance where regular riflemen can't accurately engage targets and dedicated snipers typically are not employed. A MK12 SPR is basically just an M16 variant, and the first generation SDM-Rs *were* just accurized M16s with an optic and bipod. Looking at the weapon it appears to be taking design cues from the H&K G3-- a (heavy) beefy battle rifle firing an intermediate cartridge that was issued primarily with 20 round magazines, and still sees service today . The G3 is also known to have a decent amount of recoil, being considered extremely difficult (if not impossible) to accurately use in full auto-- which again sounds familiar to the Adjudicator. In close range at full auto (firing bursts), and within 100m on semi, I would agree that the Adjudicator does just fine. I think the most telling aspect about the rifle is that it uses the same optic as the Sickle and standard Liberator, meaning it has less zoom than either the Lib Penetrator or either of the two previous DMRs. Without testing, it probably has improved damage fall-off and penetration over the standard Liberator (so improved damage against armor despite 475 less raw damage per mag), and definitely has better close range damage (650 more damage per mag!) than the Penetrator. That's about the niche that I would expect from a future G3.

justifying why a weapon is okay with this many words proves exactly why the weapon is mid/garbage

@@mikkim-mh9bc "Case in point, the amount of people that felt the groundbreaker "should be" a flamethrower armor with fire resistance when there's nothing that communicated that before or after its release" It literally looks like a fireproof suit. It even has a fucking "gas mask" with a filter.

@@spizC Sounds like someone is big mad and feels called out. News flash: modern militaries still issue gas masks. I got issued one my first week at BCT, did that make me a firefighter the second I put it on? We get issued MOPP gear in environments where NBC threats are a concern (aka SK) so we get trained on its use and plenty of units make yearly trips to the gas chamber. It only looks like a fireproof suit to you because the color scheme is black with yellow highlights-- the default colors of a helldiver uniform. No firefighter is pinning back any part of their bunker gear when they're on site. You are *exactly* the person I'm talking about.

With the population of the game being so big thats actually a rare event i feel. Hopefully it was a victory.

@@Reginald-sc9tk I agree which is why it was cool! I believe it WAS a victory sir!

I think, tragically, I picked the only thing that was good in the warbond.

Sounds solid

I'll try for vent bounce kills. Worth it for sure.

This i where the issue of imperfect testing conditions combined with unreliable damage distributions come in. I have never oneshot a stalker with the eruptor. Its always taken two+. But I've heard it said many times. Maybe I'm missing the head, but it doesn't look like it.

I promise to make my next one with medic armor just for you.

Crossbow sucks ass unfortunately

@@spizC yea, only name dropped it because it's a explosive weapon.

I'm flattered you felt that my work was worth your time and investment. Thanks very much.

Side note you can one shot heavy devastators with a shot to the pack

Some chad lunatic in my comments said it can be done, in more than 20 shots.

@@Reginald-sc9tkWeird, I was getting the white shield non-hit/deflection marker.

@@SkarmoryThePG It might be the explosion portion actually damaging it. I've noticed on this gun if I hit something, that white shield icon can pop up if I hit the armored part, yet the critter is obviously damaged. In other words, I think the shield only shows when you cannot penetrate the armor with the IMPACT, but the explosion damage is still actually bleeding through.

Cool! Stoked to hear it.

Pretty much

Very true, I actually don't think I'll do it again. I made it to a standard I'm satisfied with. Its as infodense as most of my tutorials. But it took 16 hours of work in a single day. Not fun to do.