A Vegan Cheese Was Set to Win...Then They Were Disqualified

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Climax Foods' vegan brie was the chosen winner of the Good Food Awards competition until the dairy industry got wind of it and the rules literally changed. Why it's all about the cheddar $$$.
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@shanasoileau9724 Ай бұрын

It's a win cuz it made mainstream news so now more people know it exists.

@Meathead-10810 Ай бұрын

lol - Just like fake meats, it's good to know what to look out for so that we don't eat unhealthy foods. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qseRlrt_u5uvmIE.html

@Drgluee Ай бұрын

Actually, a bigger win because it didn't win.. Seriously, it is getting more press losing because the reason of disqualification is unjustified.

@MictheVegan Ай бұрын

Yeah, even Colbert did a segment with a taste test.

@user-no2mz9hl4f Ай бұрын

I’ll bet the dairy people are doubly mad now. Serves them right.

@Meathead-10810 Ай бұрын

@@user-no2mz9hl4f Not really, it's good to know what to look out for so that we don't buy fake foods by mistake.

@heyalun Ай бұрын

What's crazy is that if this cheese had won, a lot of people may have heard about it, but many would have forgotten or ignored it. So many products claim to be "award winning." But the fact that it won, then was disqualified after the fact triggers a Streisand effect. This will get way more attention and stick in people's minds. It's much worse for dairy, because even if people don't remember the name of this cheese, they'll remember that a vegan cheese won and the dairy industry squashed it. So, it also gets an underdog effect

@juliav.mcclelland2415 Ай бұрын

How can you legally change the rules AFTER the competition is over?! Really hoping they sue over how patently unfair that is and that the Streisand Effect takes off.

@Gaia_Seraphina Ай бұрын

They didn't change the rules. Only real cheese can qualify to participate in a cheese competition. Vegan cheese is not cheese. It's a chemical cocktail made mainly of refined vegetable oil and highly processed starch ... with added taste enhancers. Allowing it to compete is like allowing athletes on steroids to compete. You can def. disqualify an athlete AFTER a competition for that. Taste is not everything. And the modern food industry can make artificial stuff very tasty ... however it won't change the fact that it's artificial junk food. You cannot let junk food win.

@Drgluee Ай бұрын

@@Gaia_Seraphina Responding.. just cause.. You are right, no rules were changed. No.. They accepted that vegan cheese would be entered. If the process involved fermentation, I believe it can qualify as cheese based on the word's earliest source. Cheeses are a chemical cocktail, vegan cheese just has no intentional animal products. Athletes on steroids usually perform better, so are you saying vegan cheese is better? And steroids should be allowed IMHO. Yes, you can disqualify an athlete after a competition, Mic was just pointing out their cause for disqualification was not justified.

@MictheVegan Ай бұрын

@@Gaia_Seraphina Please watch the video, the competition DID ALLOW for plant-based cheeses but they changed the rules to include GRAS ingredients only at the last moment. That is what they used to disqualify the vegan cheese despite the current version being 100% GRAS.

@MictheVegan Ай бұрын

I guess if it is just a privately held competition you can change whatever you want? No laws against that I believe.

@Gaia_Seraphina Ай бұрын

@@Drgluee Cheese is a fermented and ripe *dairy* product. Many kinds of food are fermented, but those don't qualify as "cheese" ( f.e. pickles or kimchi ). The cheesemaker may add some herbs or use a specific storage temperature. But generally cheese consists of natural milk ... and that's it. Made by nature. A "chemical cocktail food" is an artificial food item, which undergoes many chemical processes with many added unnatural ingredients. Vegan cheese contains mainly refined vegetable oil and processed starches. That's not cheese ffs and such an artificial food product with taste enhancers shouldn't be able to win over the real kind of cheese. It's ridiculous. This whole thing sounds fishy. I wonder if the contest operators came to their senses after receiving many complaints ... or if they were simply deceived. Seriously this reminds me of the transwoman in female sports controversy.

@JarrettOriginal Ай бұрын

Oh the shenanigans! The dairy industry is so desperate, because winning taste tests is a major blow and then if Vegan Cheeses can reach a price parody, they're (cheese on) toast.

@NoddedAlpaca Ай бұрын

*parity

@trashcatlinol Ай бұрын

@@NoddedAlpacaI dunno, if they can reduce costs to make conventional meat pricier, it might make it look like a joke.

@cupidok2768 Ай бұрын

Does he have blue eyes or Hazel eyes

@debbiewall2160 Ай бұрын

Proof that we are firmly entrenched in the "fight" portion of "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you . . . and then you win." It's desperation like this that will make that win all the sweeter.

@DivergentDroid Ай бұрын

One Truth to that End is.. Earth is Measured Flat. At least the surface of the sea is.. they call it mean sea level. It's used to establish a horizontal plane that is used daily to save lives at sea through a process called celestial navigation. What is Not true is the current Vegan Societies insistence that meat is bad for you when there is no science to back it up! If eaten in moderation like it should be. ( Based on your cholesterol levels you normally make) clean non factory farmed meats by healthy animals do NOT cause the harm claimed.

@zd4v1d Ай бұрын

What are you trying to win? You already have the right to make and eat vegan cheese. But, ah, wait a minute, I see... you not only want those rights, you want the right to encroach on already-established norms created, maintained and paid for by another tribe. Just eat your (artificial) cheese and be happy :) It is what it is, and ain't what it ain't.

@SteveRuprecht Ай бұрын

The rennet they use for mass produced cheese is produced by an genetically engineered bacteria, the lactic acid bacteria that make the "cheese taste" are farmed in giant stainless steel tanks and have serial numbers for names, some dairy cheeses can't even legally be called cheese because they're cobbled together from random cheese-like dairy parts... But plant based cheese is eNgInEeReD! Lolol

@dlehmann8353 Ай бұрын

how is it engineered? which ingredient are you speaking about? which method are you referring to? What evidence do you have ? what are you considering "eNgInEeReD!" ?

@jelatinosa Ай бұрын

@@dlehmann8353🤦🏽‍♀️ they were making fun of the people claiming vegan cheese is "engineered" not claiming it themselves. What is it with all the lack of reading comprehension lately?

@elliotpollard9083 Ай бұрын

@@jelatinosa It must be the lack of protein 😂

@FruityHachi Ай бұрын

reminds me of Blood Free show, they threw a fit that cultured meat contains bacteria, I immediately thought of how dairy cheese is made

@Blittsplitt5 Ай бұрын

@@dlehmann8353 go cry somewherre else lol

@mara3842 Ай бұрын

I don't know why carnists insist on calling this "cheese" instead of fermented cow titty milk??

@ostamaza22-yt4sq Ай бұрын

Because you dont call a car welded steel with steering wheels?? You dont call a football ball shapped sewed fabric with air pressurized core?? Vegans...

@Gaia_Seraphina Ай бұрын

You can find the answer online. Old English cēse, cȳse, of West Germanic origin; related to Dutch kaas and German Käse ; from Latin caseus. The word cheese comes from Latin caseus, from which the modern word casein is also derived. The earliest source is from the proto-Indo-European root *kwat-, which means "to ferment, become sour". That gave rise to cīese or cēse (in Old English) and chese (in Middle English).

@Mousehansen Ай бұрын

Because we have words used for specific things? Same reason you say "pajamas" and not "sleeping clothes." I'm a vegan but this kind of pedantic "gotcha" rhetoric is just stupid.

@sergeantbigmac Ай бұрын

@@Mousehansen Thank you for saying what most people reading this are probably thinking.

@ac-fp9lx Ай бұрын

@@Mousehansen it's a joke. Responding genuinely to a joke is pedantic above everything.

@VeganicVerse Ай бұрын

This also happened with a vegan cake beating all, so the organiser cancelled the whole competition.

@carnismiscancer2108 Ай бұрын

The dairy industry is getting more scared as time goes on.

@JustJ0nathan Ай бұрын

Step out of your echo chamber for a brief minute. Dairy isn’t going anywhere. All vegan “cheese” I’ve ever tried is revolting. But even if it managed to taste good and mimic the real thing, I still wouldn’t eat it because of the laundry list of ingredients it would no doubt have. I don’t believe dairy is part of the natural human diet, but if I’m going to consume it on the rare occasion, I’m sure as heck getting the real thing and not some ultra-processed lab-made garbage that vegan “cheese” is.

@jprice_ Ай бұрын

@@JustJ0nathan Step out of your echo chamber for a brief minute, artisanal vegan cheeses have like 5 ingredients max.

@JustJ0nathan Ай бұрын

@@jprice_ So what? It’s still ultra-processed garbage. The main ingredient in any vegan “cheese”, whether artisan or not, is some sort of low-quality vegetable oil like canola, sunflower, or soy, which is highly processed and inflammatory. I’m not consuming that poison, but you do you. I’ll continue to eat the real stuff. ☺️

@AB-ft7ng Ай бұрын

@@JustJ0nathan"Dairy isn't going anywhere" he says, while the video about dairy cheese losing to plant-based cheese in a competition that was ruled, run, and manipulated by the dairy industry itself plays in the background. The dairy industry can't even win on its own terms, it's absolutely going somewhere (the trash) and it's going there at record speeds 😂😂

@JustJ0nathan Ай бұрын

@@AB-ft7ng So what? I’m still going to eat the real cheese. You can eat your ultra-processed poison. No skin off my back. ☺️

@jakeA0903 Ай бұрын

You're a big part of the reason I went vegan 5 years ago, pumped to say hi at Vegan Campout this summer 😎

@COACH-CARBOHYDRATE Ай бұрын

Non vegans get so triggered so easy! I think they are just hangry from not enough carbs, Carbs FTW!! 💪💪💪

@Gaia_Seraphina Ай бұрын

I'd wish gen Z would finally stop using the awful non-prefix to describe human groups. 😑

@user-ud2qy8pj2o Ай бұрын

Carbs ftw...... LoL. Ummm, I'll give you a free heads up, ask yourself what you think the main cause of type 2 diabetes is......think of the simplest answer that makes sense. See how you go. If you figure it out , it should make you at least rethink your stance on carbs....

@xYuma Ай бұрын

@@user-ud2qy8pj2o I don't think whole grains cause diabetes lol (and science does too btw)

@11235Aodh Ай бұрын

@@user-ud2qy8pj2o Fat is the main cause of type 2 diabetes. Fat gets accumulated in muscle and liver cells (initially) due to fat blocking the 3rd proton pump of our mitochondria's. All dietary fats do this, though saturated fat does it just a bit better.

@theghost00 Ай бұрын

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@@user-ud2qy8pj2oRefined sugar, high amounts of saturated fats, lack of exercise, stress, overweight/obesity, genetics and lack of sleep? Never heard of a case of someone getting diabetes from eating too much vegetables (most of them contain barely any sugar compared to fruits)/whole grain/legumes in western countries. Based on questions I get about my diet, many people seem to forget about the existence of legumes. 😂

@Marie0828 Ай бұрын

everyone liked it because vegan cheese doesn't taste like abuse and exploitation :)

@MictheVegan Ай бұрын

But that's how they get that "sharp" cheese flavor 🔪

@bones642 Ай бұрын

@@MictheVegan😭

@lorrygoth Ай бұрын

When you are raised on a steady diet of Colonization and Capitalism it really numbs the palate to anything not marinated in blood.

@joeillingworth1141 Ай бұрын

I mean, cheese can taste incredible, and not include abuse or exploitation. But I really, really want more great vegan cheese options. Just more healthy

@faddad101 Ай бұрын

Or bird flu

@drunkvegangal8089 Ай бұрын

Vegan cheeses lack the casein to break down into casomorphin - so judges get grumpy when they don't get their expected post-animal-cheese-chompin' high.

@bobhill4364 Ай бұрын

Can casein be added?

@leizee1224 Ай бұрын

A plant derived morphine can be added to vegan cheeses for the same effect.

@Corilo91 Ай бұрын

@@bobhill4364 Casein is animal-based, but there are companies that are producing casein from yeasts through a process called "Precise Fermentation". It's still not available in most of the world, unfortunately.

@jonahwhale9047 Ай бұрын

@@Corilo91 I think you mean "Precision Fermentation". How about we just spike it with real morphine instead? That would make it a real winner. Or may be the ergot alkaloids of the fungus Claviceps purpurea? They're both plant based.

@TrappedInTheMeatrix Ай бұрын

In the name of Cheesus... no more puns!!

@MictheVegan Ай бұрын

Would you describe your self as feta-up?

@TrappedInTheMeatrix Ай бұрын

@@MictheVegan I camembert the thought of any more of your puns

@prieten49 Ай бұрын

@@TrappedInTheMeatrix You gouda brie emmental case...

@avinashtyagi2 Ай бұрын

Cheesus > Jesus

@vivianriver6450 Ай бұрын

I will use puns only in queso emergency.

@saywhat303 Ай бұрын

lol Dairy industry, be afraid...be VERY afraid.

@meegy2 Ай бұрын

It's climax foods for everyone else who missed it 😂

@gretaeberhardt541 Ай бұрын

“…disconnected from nature”? So tell me what’s natural about taking calves away from their mothers immediately? At least this plant based cheese got a ton more press than it ever would have but for the whiners.

@Gaia_Seraphina Ай бұрын

Vegan cheese is the best example of a chemical cocktail food. It consists mainly of refined vegetable oil and highly processed starch. Not very natural. Plus it lacks protein at that. This kind of product is definitely not a good advertisement for veganism. Humans can make every artificial junk taste good, due to added taste enhancers, but that doesn't mean that it qualifies as good food.

@parkersavage8774 Ай бұрын

@@Gaia_Seraphinaseeing this comment posted in a few places, but I believe you missed the point. Vegan cheeses lack any animal exploitation, and that should be the biggest factor for choosing them. The above comment also points out that modern industrial agriculture has removed itself pretty far from what can be considered “natural.” Yeah, vegan cheese doesn’t fit the bill either, but the focus should be on what’s being done to the animals.

@Gaia_Seraphina Ай бұрын

@@parkersavage8774 Sorry ... but the biggest factor to consume food should be it's nutritional value for the body and it's ability to provide satiety. I won't ruin my body with artificial, highly processed junk food just to fulfill some social agenda. People who eat vegan junk want to feel morally superior, while simultaneously not wanting to give up on the taste of meat/dairy. This sounds rather hypocritical if I'm honest. Maybe cultured meat/milk would be the best solution for them. Junk food veganism definitely isn't.

@melchiorlise2466 Ай бұрын

Most of the time people who say that are the most dissociated from nature you will ever meet

@Gaia_Seraphina Ай бұрын

@@melchiorlise2466 Who say what exactly? "That" is not a very informative word.

@joedirt1965 Ай бұрын

Mic about to hit 400,000 followers.

@Corilo91 Ай бұрын

This is so freaking unfair and idiotic. Good thing is these dairy cheese makers literally played themselves with this move.

@ralimba1778 Ай бұрын

The dairy industry did the event dirty.

@suicune2001 Ай бұрын

I tried the Follow Your Heart blue cheese and I was shocked how good and flavorful it was. I'd like to see a taste test where they tell people dairy cheese is vegan cheese and vegan cheese is dairy cheese and see how people react. Lol

@msjkramey Ай бұрын

Wow, if they can pull that off, that'd be incredible. Vegan food tech has really come a long way since I was a teen and tried my first "parmesan" or plastic-y fake cheese slices. I loooove blue cheese and I'd love to see an affordable, plant-based version of it

@Authorthings Ай бұрын

I hate blue cheese... But if it's not a 1 for 1 I might venture to try. Should I try it or just avoid because it tastes just as awful? 😂 No hate to those who like it. I think I inherited a gene or something 😂

@suicune2001 Ай бұрын

@@Authorthings If you hate blue cheese then you'll hate this one. Lol

@robrebs4675 Ай бұрын

Love that one!

@jelatinosa Ай бұрын

@@Authorthingssame. I'll be more excited when they create an actually good cheddar or mozz. or muenster. I'm not a fan of the smelly, moldy cheeses.

@nancyferland6044 Ай бұрын

OK. I need this product. Where do i buy. I have an apple and candied pecan salad just waiting for this blue cheez abomination ❤

@pattheplanter Ай бұрын

Only available in restaurants at the moment.

@993Redveg Ай бұрын

@@pattheplanter Is it available in UK restaurants? If so, which ones?

@pattheplanter Ай бұрын

@@993Redveg I am pretty sure the list on their website was just for restaurants in the US. Several UK companies make vegan blue cheese and will post it to you. I couldn't tell you if any are worth the money.

@emilyking9558 Ай бұрын

These cheeseflakes are so fragile. But more importantly please cheesus let this cheese taste good on pizza.

@Babesinthewood97 Ай бұрын

But the main point of interest is, they made a tasty vegan cheese??? That’s huge. I want to try it.

@AnachronyX Ай бұрын

There are many greatly tasting vegan cheese, but unfortunately they're mostly not sold in supermarkets.

@Kayte... Ай бұрын

It was also mentioned on The Late Show a week or so ago.

@Alex-ky4cd Ай бұрын

So cool, kudos to Climax Foods

@Klaudiuszeg Ай бұрын

Funny isnt it? Vegan products could still be delicious if not better than traditional ones. For example, no-chicken vegan burgers from plant menu from aldi is same price to regular chicken burgers but they are more delicious and juicy than the real ones.

@petehoover6616 Ай бұрын

The problem is that fake products that taste real can be mistaken for the real thing until you start farting. And they are totally unsatisfying no matter what they "taste" like. That's how we use fish bait. To tempt with falsehood. So if "beyond meat" is on a restaurant people won't eat there.

@jontanneguy4960 Ай бұрын

There is synthetic gelatin that was invented over a decade ago and we still don't have it on the market. Yes, I firmly believe that we could develop a synthetic cheese. But the current industry giants would never allow that. Maybe with enough protesting we could see it become a reality.

@deepakhiranandani6488 Ай бұрын

Very interesting video, thanks So amusing too 😊😀. And the silver lining observation is spot on: now this vegan cheese and by extension vegan cheeses in general get so much more airtime. And: there were cocum trees near where i used to live, not far from where I stay now. Cocum grows well on the west coast of India specifically Goa where I am now. It's the garcinia fruit, well known for traditional medicine and as a delightfully flavoured souring agent for food such as dal. Not used all over India but traditional in the food of the peninsular states Maharashtra, Goa and Karnataka and also in Sindhi cuisine - my ethnicity - in moong dal and besan kadhi. Happy childhood memories of it...

@ScarCaskt Ай бұрын

Vegans Winning!🌱 (I just came here to say that)

@insu_na Ай бұрын

I love how that journalist said something like "Up there with our best cheddars [...]" As if Cheddar of all things was something to strive for... I'm sorry to say it, but Americans have no taste at all.. American cheddar has always tasted and felt like the waste products of plastic production. Glad the vegan cheese got some attention. I really hope we'll have vegan cheeses that are as good as dairy cheeses soon... Need some vegan Emmentaler fr fr

@manifestingsanctuary Ай бұрын

Vegan cheese has more ability to be versatile; it's meant to win. It's wild to me that alot of vegan cheese on the market isn't good because everytime I try a recipe to make at home it comes out delicious.

@adim00lah Ай бұрын

I have only found 1 cheeze that I like and that's the numu brand that they use on the whole foods vegan pizzas. I'm from nyc, so I grew up eating great pizza, and numu is the closest I've had to the real thing.

@michelledupuis123 Ай бұрын

Did anyone look into the ingredients of the other cheeses? Or was it only done with the vegan cheese?

@r.m8146 Ай бұрын

We really need this victory

@viviandarkbloom8847 Ай бұрын

Why they keep calling it cheese? This is not cheese. This is scrumdiddlyumptious cheese.

@NoName-cx3gk Ай бұрын

The Israeli company Remilk, for example, sells animal-free cream cheese in the USA with whey protein that was created in the fermenter. Remilk says it wants to sell yogurt, cream cheese and ice cream at the same price as conventional dairy products as early as 2024.

@robertturner1308 Ай бұрын

Thanks for this video. Glad you did the hard work to look into this story and share it with others.

@CharGC123 Ай бұрын

$$$$ rules the world. Sad.

@jjjones4982 Ай бұрын

Saskatoon or Service berries that I grew up eating isn't allowed in Britain. It happens with regional products. I enjoy many of the new plant-based cheeses more than the plant-based meat replacement.

@FranchiseCityOnline Ай бұрын

I thought the ban was over? "Juneberries" in UK if I recall.

@jourdanhamme3426 Ай бұрын

I appreciate the video, I didn't know about this :)

@donnavogt433 Ай бұрын

I love the sarcasm. "Too make sure it is "safe" LOL

@sooooooooDark Ай бұрын

probably gave the vegan cheese more promotion/sales than a win wouldve gotten it... literally backfired by giving "the enemy" free exposure/advertisement 😂

@annala2956 Ай бұрын

I say this all the time: so many foods that most people enjoy can be made without any animal products and NO ONE WOULD KNOW if it wasn't advertised. A friend just made an accidentally vegan, chocolate cake last weekend. He didn't even realize it till I asked what was in it and he realized it had no dairy or even egg. It was a "depression (era) cake" and used vinegar and baking soda. So delicious. Why is vegan not the default?

@sandradamen-fw4zy Ай бұрын

Thank you for the work!

@brainfry 29 күн бұрын

Hey Mic, wanted to drop by and let you know that your channel does have a real impact on people. I randomly came across this particular video a few days ago, and then started watching a few of your other videos. I really appreciate your dedication to truth telling, as well as your presentation style. Anyways, since watching this particular video and going down a few rabbit holes, you have turned my entire family as I have been joking "accidentally becoming vegan". Keep up the great work, I can't wait to learn more and more!

@ellev11 Ай бұрын

Reminds me of when a vegan restaurant won top prize among all nonvegan ones. ChuChai!!!

@sharonoflondon3365 Ай бұрын

Thanks! Also: Name of this cheese?-for the Book Group (they love cheese)

@fatesrival563 Ай бұрын

Berkeley, California's Climax Foods

@sharonoflondon3365 Ай бұрын

@@fatesrival563 Thank you for the info, very kind!

@natashaotoole Ай бұрын

On a funny note, in dutch peanutbutter is called pindakaas (peanut cheese).

@aheumedivirtoXD Ай бұрын

as they say: thanks for the free promotion lol

@ronaldwong6092 Ай бұрын

Is the black stuff in vegan cheese bacteria the same as the milk blue cheese ?.

@heatherdyett9119 Ай бұрын

"If you're not going to be there, buy a ticket and go anyway" 😂 brill. Looking forward to seeing you there!

@ceeemm1901 Ай бұрын

Blessed are the Cheesemakers!

@user-no2mz9hl4f Ай бұрын

I completely agree that plant milk is very different from breastmilk. One is the combination of a plant ingredient and water, blended and strained - almost a juice - and the other is a biological excretion from mother mammals to feed their young. They may look and taste similar, but they’re quite different. However, the process of creating cheese from either plant or breast milk is actually very similar, if not the same. And I would argue that breastmilk is not crucial to the time honoured tradition of cheesemaking. If we can make the same product, in a similar fashion, without exploiting mothers and harming babies - why wouldn’t we?

@PabloPerroPerro Ай бұрын

6:09 ...the controversy fermented*

@rynkydynky Ай бұрын

Imagine being a dairy investor and noticing that you can get the same result without feeding and killing cows, wouldn't that be more efficient and cheaper and therefore a good investment opportunity? It seems they can't see a future without exploiting and killing animals.

@Gaia_Seraphina Ай бұрын

What about the nutrition values of vegan cheese? Can they keep up? According to the ingredient list it's mostly refined vegetable oil and highly processed starch. Doesn't sound very good to me.

@rynkydynky Ай бұрын

@@Gaia_Seraphina what about getting those nutrients from non-animal sources? Isn't cow cheese highly processed as well?

@Gaia_Seraphina Ай бұрын

@@rynkydynky Cheese has more nutrients than this artificially highly processed stuff, cuz milk has more nutrients. And milk is nutritious, cuz it was created to make a baby animal grow up properly. It's the same with human mother's milk. Babies who are breastfed are more healthy than those who get formula milk. And babies of "almond moms" who feed them plant milk get even sick or die ( and then it's on the news ). If you want to argue, apply to the points I actually made, trying to debunk them ... and not with "whataboutism" rhetoric. For now ... nobody here in the comment section has made a convincing argument which speaks for the consumption of vegan cheese, outside of animal welfare. Unfortunatelly child welfare matters more to most parents. And I see absolutely no reason to replace my child's cheese sandwich with vegan cheese sandwich and still call myself a caring vegetarian mom.

@Gaia_Seraphina Ай бұрын

@@rynkydynky PS: And no ... cheese is NOT highly processed. It's basically milk which was "left alone". It was already made in the paleolythicum ( stone age ). Even my grandmother made cottage cheese by wrapping soured milk in a gauze cloth and letting the whey drop into a bucket. Nothing highly processed about that.

@Authorthings Ай бұрын

@@Gaia_Seraphinayeah, I definitely wouldn't give vegan cheese to a child. It's junk food (I think I said as much in another comment). Much like potato chips, mock meats, and Oreos. Going vegan isn't always about choosing the 1 for 1 option. Especially for cheese (low protein). For me and my husband, we make sandwiches with tempeh, bell pepper, onion, mushrooms, lettuce, tomato, mashed chickpeas, baked tofu, and for spreads we like hummus, vegan mayo made from silken tofu, siracha, tahini, vegan plain yogurt turned into something else lol. It doubles as our sour cream (unsweetened.) Even though vegan yogurt has less protein, it's still beneficial for gut health due to the live cultures. We get our protein other ways (legumes, nuts, seeds, grains, vegan protein powder lol). Vegan milk is typically fortified with vitamins and minerals and soy milk a fair amount of protein also. So that's a 1 for 1 for me. Oat and almond milk are just for calcium since there's not a lot of protein. I'm not sure if you're just wanting to argue or if you're trying to learn more about going vegan, but I hope you have a nice day either way.

@meegy2 Ай бұрын

What's the name of the cheese

@elimarcela Ай бұрын

It’s in the description…

@meegy2 Ай бұрын

@@elimarcela oh I couldn't open it. What did it say? I'm watching another video now lol

@DNAndrei Ай бұрын

Climax Foods' vegan brie :)

@meegy2 Ай бұрын

@@DNAndrei thank you :)

@CactusBob Ай бұрын

Non-vegan here, never heard of the Good Food award, never heard of Climax Foods or their cheese -- until now, when this video popped up on my KZfaq. So I think you're right that Big Dairy's attempt to crush the little guy just gave the vegan cheese more and better publicity. Very cool to see how far vegan food has come in the past several years. Might have to pick up some of Climax's products next time I get a chance

@anonimogonzalezperez4951 Ай бұрын

Vegan fermented cheeses based on nuts should be taste as good as cheeses bases on milk, at least they are much alike.

@xperience-evolution Ай бұрын

The Washington Post "... when seeking out high-quality, ETHICALLY sourced goods." There is NOTHING ethical with Dairy. It is probably the most brutal Horror Industrie in the world

@user-nz4un6se7y 23 күн бұрын

Unlike agriculture and factory made vegan slop right?

@terryelizabeth2841 Ай бұрын

Streisand effect?

@alexscott1257 Ай бұрын

Hi Mic, if you are coming to the Vegan Camp out in the UK this year see if you can get your hands on some Honestly Tasty Cheese. It's made by a small London based company. My mum started getting it for me at Christmas time a few years ago. They aren't vegan but they tried some of the blue and brie varieties and they said it was indistinguishable from real cheese. They sell it in M&S stores now (bunched in with all the cow cheese!) but I find that the best stuff comes from their mail order site! Thanks for the video, I live in hope. I went vegan 7 years ago and when I told my family they laughed and said that they'd give me a week, tops before I crumbled because I loved cheese so much, especially blue cheese (I grew up in one of the Stilton counties in England!) and when I went vegan it was the one real sacrifice but after learning about what was happening to the animals I couldn't continue. When I had some Honestly Tasty brie in a restaurant a few years ago I saw, but a glimmer of hope! And I am so excited for the future of vegan cheese! That one in the video look amazing! Be sure to let us know if and when that comes out of the market!

@clairebear1207 Ай бұрын

“Super massive black hole” was that a Muse reference? 🤔🤣

@ChristieMarie Ай бұрын

I want to try the cheese now!

@cgisme Ай бұрын

I find this so amusing as I was unable to find any decent cheese during my many visits from Europe.

@merives2263 Ай бұрын

Can you do a video on the carnivore family

@candywarmuth6241 Ай бұрын

Shame on them.

@taradevito6751 Ай бұрын

I just discovered laughing cow has an almond cheese spread and it’s so good!

@mustatuuli1 Ай бұрын

Does bird flu count as an ingredient? Asking for regulatory purposes ofc

@kenthanna Ай бұрын

It was removed because it didn't contain bird flu.

@qderks1848 Ай бұрын

What is the vegan cheese? Where can we get it?

@JivecattheMagnificent Ай бұрын

See you at VCO mate.

@AuntieRachelsChaoticKitchen 28 күн бұрын

I'm constantly baffled by the "vegan food is ultra processed" argument. Milk, cheese and the like are just as processed; they take plants and put them inside what is effectively an organic machine, which breaks the plant matter down by using various acids and other biological processes

@Kvothe3 Ай бұрын

Hey, can I get some available in Canada recommendations for vegan cheeses... It's the only thing I miss at all (vegan 3 years)

@user-gu9yq5sj7c Ай бұрын

I tried the vegan cheeses from Follow Your Heart and VioLife. They were good and indistinguishable from dairy cheese. They melt too. Cheap Lazy Vegan has a recipe that is just tofu and yeast blended. People are trying to make lab cheese too.

@vegannafraali Ай бұрын

Thanks for raising awareness of such bs. Vegan for the animals! 🌱

@Pjvenom1985 Ай бұрын

Crazy shenanigans indeed.🌱🌅🍀

@meismeems1 Ай бұрын

I need to know, what cheese was it? Who makes the winner?

@jonahwhale9047 Ай бұрын

Climax.

@aroomofmIOwn Ай бұрын

Really interesting to see this drama play out. Joanne Lee Molinaro of the Korean Vegan podcast did an episode with Oliver Zahn, the CEO of Climax Foods, where they discussed his company's strategies for making vegan cheese, among other things. Their goal is to create "next-generation" versions of the food which are nutritionally superior (including having the same *or higher* protein content than the original), better tasting, cheaper to produce, more environmentally sustainable, and it looks like they've done just that with this blue cheese. The dairy industry's panicked response that it's "not real cheese" makes perfect sense; it's the only argument they have left for why anyone should prefer their product.

@vyleart4488 28 күн бұрын

The question, is what is the best source to buy vegan cheese? Would love to buy that product, but only served in select restaurants. (I usually buy Miyokos)

@mikeskylark1594 Ай бұрын

I'd like to have some of this winner vegan cheese, please.

@sid35gb Ай бұрын

The crime is always the coverup. Vegan cheeses I’ve tried recently are shockingly good the ones that have stood out to me are by Palace culture.

@SikhiArt Ай бұрын

6:35 - Mic the "Bill Bur" Vegan

@iamKillwell Ай бұрын

huge W for them because I was immediately like, what's that brand, gimme it.

@bambieyes8296 Ай бұрын

Wow I would like to taste this. I have only ever liked plant based cream cheese and that's only recently. This company has nothing in my area but maybe one day!

@afta-mf1tl Ай бұрын

loving the increased video uploads. hope you can keep it up, you make such good content

@rugbywindow Ай бұрын

Which cheese is it? Where do we get it?

@jonahwhale9047 Ай бұрын

Climax out of Berkeley California. Details on website.

@reaperkollyns6495 Ай бұрын

If I liked the taste of any cheese ever, I would be interested to try it. Luckily, I've never had a taste for dairy products.

@melrox8809 Ай бұрын

The dairy industry is scared. 😅

@jenniferearl1170 Ай бұрын

I think people get so caught up in controversy that they miss the most important thing in a taste competition, which is taste. The most tastiest cheese should win. If it's vegan, who cares, if it tastes better, it's the best cheese

@anapantz Ай бұрын

Vegan cheese has come so far already... surely it won't be long before they overtake the breastmilk industry's contribution to humanity's cheese addiction. Thanks for bringing this interesting story to our attention.

@zachcain2639 Ай бұрын

Controversy is good press too 😊 glad to see vegan cheeses winning taste tests. Kokum butter sounds pretty cool, quite low in palmitic acid so much healthier and more environmentally friendly than palm oil

@cfoa13 Ай бұрын

give the name of the cheese and the band please i want to taste it🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤

@tofu-munchingCoalition.ofChaos Ай бұрын

Climax foods is the company. I heard from them before. Sadly not available where I live. It's their blue cheese. Made from lima beans, pumpkin seeds, hemp seeds, cacao butter, coconut oil.

@michasosnowski5918 Ай бұрын

When I look at the vegan cheeses at my supermarket, I would never eat it. Its mostly coconut oil with salt and spices. How is that suppose to be better than normal cheese? You dont get any protein, you dont get any calcium. Pure oil. Vegan cheeses from nuts are different thing, but there are none of these at the moment in the store.

@MrRibbett454 Ай бұрын

I agree, that overall it is a win. But Climax is not a great name for a cheese brand.

@jeffmoodie6144 Ай бұрын

Cheese? Vegan? Those two words should not be put together.

@jonahwhale9047 Ай бұрын

Why not, the word cheese comes from a root word meaning to sour, i.e. ferment, nothing do with mammal secretions.

@user-nz4un6se7y 23 күн бұрын

@@jonahwhale9047 The word vegetable comes from Latin vegetābilis meaning "able to live and grow". I suppose animal based products like cheese and meat are vegan friendly now. See, being vegan has nothing to do with your mental disorders. It's also funny to see how vegans exclude humans from animal (anima - soul, breath) kingdom and think human abuse is okay

@jonahwhale9047 23 күн бұрын

@@user-nz4un6se7y Let me guess, you are going to tell me that not being allowed to eat other animals is "abuse" according to you? Meat isn't "able to live and grow". It is, by definition, dead.