very courageous of her admitting that. When these abominations came out i had to rename my favorite Nosferatu...and a 7th Sea character as well...

I agree with Alex. JK. I pity her poor, deluded, misguided, and confused soul much more than I hate her. Someone show her the way to Golconda, 'cause she be needin' Jesus.

I love the tiny "I hate you" from Alex immediately afterwards...

@@dmen89 I so agree

​@@nomoretelekom Please tell me that the Nos was named Bella! That would be so lovely. 😆

Honestly, I think her description fits the Lasombra better because they are social darwinists, so the power that they obtain and forge is opressive because they have an in built sense of deserving it and thereby the "rabble" need to be in awe and subservience to them, further developed by the fact that the clan grew within the Catholic Church through the ages. Ventrue by contrast can be more ethical egoists. They can be cartoony oppressive (La Croix in bloodlines or Vannevar in LA) but that is just one simplistic shade of them. Ventrue belive they have a right to power but also understand that it comes with duties. If the common good and a Ventrue's self interest are alligned then they are capable of providing stability, safety and an environment for others to do their thing in peace. They are the Yang to the Yin of the Brujah in that way. The Brujah tear down old systems that are corrupt and ossified but since Carthage they have been unable to build anything back up. Vice-versa the Ventru build and build but have a massive blind spot when it comes to being able to say "I've done enough and now I need to step back and let someone else do their part". If that can be kept in check and the Ventrue in question has a halfway decent set of ethics and personal morals, they are not that bad. Just my 2 cents on all of this

@@Skelli2 Definitely a better way to phrase Ventrue's hunger for power and the contrast with the Lasombra's. Aabria made great points and since Episode 3 her Fuego is really the most intruguing of the coterie so far next to Isaac, but yeah I commend your points more.

@@deeplovelydark Thank you very much. I am quite interested in how Margo develops since we just found out that she was tactically sired just to get a Cam foohold in the Bronx and kind of discarded. The question remains if her Sire asked permission for this because if not shes in big trouble and her sire F'd up.Regardless her making is already highly unorthodox for the Ventrue and it will be interesting to follow. If this was a "classic" Ventrue she would have been schooled like Isaac or a Lasombra/ Tremere neonate since all 4 clans are lineage and hierarchy focused in their culture. Something that I've thought about a bit since my last comment is that Aabria, the OP here (absolutely no disrespect meant) and Margo/Fuego as a character all seem to really have a 21st century understanding of power as fundamentally rotten (true to an extent as absolute power corrupts absolutely) whereas clan Ventrue culture is deeply rooted in benign paternalism. If you thought about it biblically it becomes a bit ironic that clan Ventrue, by and large is the one that seeks the most to be like God the Father and always falls short because of the Beast. Historically, it also makes sense since the clan developed behind the Roman Republic which survived for 5 centuries on duty and the expectation that those in power would behave according to whats right. Up until Sulla and Caesar every Roman dictator ( a position of absolute power granted in times of emergency) stepped down at the end of the 6 months of dictatoriship (the formal time limit) unless reconfirmed for another 6 months. Furthermore, their high time was the Middle Ages, and with their siring pool being European nobles, the clan had centuries of the principle of "Noblesse Oblige" and the genre of moral literature of "Specula Principum" being hammered into them, both from the outside with new Embraces coming in and from within from their Roman Elders, with authors such as Cicero, Plutarch, Thomas Aquinas, Erasmus and so on. The "best" kind of Ventrue is a marriage between those principles and the realism of Machiavelli and Otto von Bismarck. Such a Ventrue would tend towards making the calculus of their actions based on outcome and how to get there. By contrast Annabelle (not Venrue but still applies) and Margo who grew up with 21st century activism are inclined towards the act itself (think Saul Alinski's "Rules for Radicals"). If the act or goal is "a priori" moral then it is justifiable no matter the outcome whereas old Venture if they are worth their salt would go "the outcome of what I do is the only way to judge if what I did was correct" and therefore justifiable. Here we have "a posteriori" reasoning. A Lasombra, to finish up with them, would be neither as for them the guiding maxim is "Might makes Rright", or to be more precise "Might makes Divine" Sorry this got long winded but I tend to nerd out a lot when it comes to my love of pol sci philosophy and history and it's what really draws me the most to VTM compared to something like DnD.

@@Skelli2 I enjoyed your descriptions, and I can see a little more the distinction of Ventrue "power" vs. Lasmobra "power". I an still a little new to the game myself so I'm always on the lookout for more insights from experienced people.

@@Skelli2 I remember reading somewhere that the difference between the Ventrue and the Lasombra is that one " believes they are born to power and the right to rule", while the other believes "one must earn it to have the right to any power". Likely why they each function so well in their respective sects- the Camarilla is like the old grandparent that never changes or sees a reason to unless forced, and the Sabbat is so given to change that they are racked by constant revolt and inner upheaval. Her description of the Ventrue could work for the Lasombra as well for sure, especially when it could come to systems of "Spiritual Indoctrination", seeing how cultish the Sabbat is. I guess both clans are just two sides to the same coin- power expressed in different ways, for "better" or ill. I would really like to see that in some of the new Camarilla characters coming in the next season 😁

Now... are you saying it like it's spelled, or saying it like it should be pronounced... which is zhi-mee-see :P

This is the best thing that happened in this interview. I have been clinging to older pronunciations for decades and I will die on that hill. Brujah included.

@@bledthebest6084 It's these Western fledgelings I swear.

@@bledthebest6084 Bruhahahaha

@@Desiremademanifest i prefer see-me-she, learned that from a moldavian fiend eh friend

Truly the series of all time.

@@BrooklynFirstTeam seem to be bad management - they make a lot of weird decisions.

fear creates the most powerful reactions and memories - 'reptilian brain' as some call it - look it up. its survival over all

i aint sure she created the character based on her fears...or she didnt see irony given that she is playing a character in a show promoting a product by a corporation, arguably the thing she just called monsterous in her reasoning to go Ventrue.

@@Apressadinho That's usually the case. People conveniently ignore the things they like fitting the power structure and system they supposedly hate.

​@@LordVader1094 No ethical consumption under capitalism. Save from moving out of the states altogether, working to spread good in an opressive system is still important. "You want to improve and look at society, and yet you live in society" is not a gotcha.

Oh my, oh my. These two are literally my favorite role players. How I wish to see that. We have Candela Obscura: Blood Mirror now, where Liam is the dm and Alex is one of the players. It’s quite amazing! You should check that out

I wouldn't say "than any other system", certainly than D20. ;)

Americans tend to pronounce it zih-meesh-ee. Etymology is actually given for their name. It's from the Romanian word zmeesc, but it's the genitive case of zmeu, weird way to name a clan or loan words. In Romanian that word means only dragon. The other etymolgy is speculated by fans that it's from Byzantine emperor John Tzimiskes. He was of Armenian origins and his name in Armenian means "short-statured". I think creators just didn't care and didn't research properly. So, spell it as you see fit.

The players in New York, Seattle, and LA by Night all choose and make their own characters. :)

You probably don't mean any harm, but please do not refer to Black people as "well-spoken" as if it's unnatural for us to be. There's a horrible racist implication with that "compliment".

@@mitsiejc1077 dude he didn’t say it’s BECAUSE SHE IS BLACK she was well spoken

@@Septimius_The_Seventh As I understood it that's not what the comment meant either, just pointing out that some compliments will always land wrong because people have heard them used with malice or condescension a thousand times

@@Septimius_The_Seventh How often do you see ANYBODY say the phrase "well-spoken". it's not commonly used, except in this biased sense. It's deserving of a side-eye, at least.

Exactly. It's used so often as a backhanded compliment. People always say it to me and I know exactly what they mean by it. *grrr*

If 5e never mentions.... the other thing... I'll be very very happy.

Might I ask of you to point me towards the *things* you mentioned? I am clueless but intrigued

Vicissitude? Some people really hate it. I loved it. Though Souleaters are... meh. Asakku do the same thing better. But I just keep Vicissitude-as-Tzimisce (the Antediluvian), since that's enough.

​@@baduizt Bah. Vicissitude didn't need anything else layered on top of it. You have overlord vampires who take anything that they decide they want to own and uses mind control and flesh control to make their domains and the kine upon it into anything they want, no matter how grotesque--where is the value in removing the horror away from that already compelling focal point? There was this trend in 2e vampire to ignore the 'personal horror' aspect of vampire in favor of cosmic elements that, frankly, were in the wrong game. Magical superpowers that are actually a cosmic entity with ambitions of conquest? That's perfectly in place in Mage. Or even Werewolf if a spirit realm thing. But Vampire? Wrong game.

Something like that. Hospitality customs are common to many cultures globally. :)

@@FlawlessP401 I think it is a good thing that each group has its own playstyle. At least you are playing the game. Also I think that this is like 70% ttrpg 30% tv show, and I think Jason too has some bg work, then you add in all the setup for the live stream (cameras, lights, makeup, costumes...).

We use those symbols in all our V5 roleplaying game books, too. ;)

I absolutely loved it whenever Fiona was on in LA, but honestly, I'd rather see her coming in with a new role. That would be so awesome.

Tzimisce.

Tzimisce.

Hey, Dracula IS actualy a Tzimisce in the lore of the game. He was a member of the Basarab, one of the Tzimisces favorite ghouls family. Check it on the fandom !

Tbf the game about a literal cabal of bloodsucking elites struggles not to be political.

@@tzimiscezhulo920 Figured as much, will do. Information on this game can be a bit hard to come by.

@@jamesgrieves2669 sure, but the inspirations were taken from our own current socio and political issues. I'm not too concerned with it, as long as there isn't someone as over the top as Annabelle again. She could really get tedious at times.

Her existence as a black woman is politicized, she is exploring this aspect of her life within the story. Media has always been "politicized" and have talked about important social issues since forever.

I think that theres going to be another coterie in this series...

All the way back to VTMB.

@@JnEricsonx Exactly ! Loved that game : flawed, but still a masterpiece. Too bad that sequel was dropped, it was my most anticipated game in recent years.

We will see if we can boost the sound! Thank you.

Strong statements and I agree with you

Yes.

"Hunters Garage" is coming later this year. :)