ABANDONED - The KICKSTARTER Camera: Digital Bolex

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Welcome to our first 30 minute ABANDONED Camera episode! We got to sit down with the former Digital Bolex creator, Joseph Rubinstein, and get his story and behind-the-scenes look at the story of this fascinating 16mm digital camera. We want to note here for this video we are taking a look at Joe's reflection on the story. There were many others who worked on this project and brought it to reality and in no way are we discounting any of that in this video, but merely looking at the story and the perspective through his eyes. And as you can tell, there is a lot of stories to tell! We could have made this even longer and maybe it's something we will revisit again another time.
Enjoy! And thanks to Joe for taking the time to be interviewed and providing some really cool behind-the-scenes photos and videos.
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0:00 The Kickstarter Digital Bolex: Scam or Real?
1:13 I've been asked by several people...
2:23 The Digital Bolex History
2:37 What got Joe Rubinstein into cameras in high school
3:44 The first company made with the Canon 5D Mark 1: Polite in Public and MySpace
5:32 Joe sells his share in the company and starts researching for the Digital Bolex
6:29 Who was this camera for?
7:55 Trying to license the Bolex name
10:04 Approaching Investors
10:40 The KICKSTARTER Ultimatum
10:47 KICKSTARTER says no...
11:52 Digital Bolex goes LIVE on Kickstarter
13:00 Philip Bloom lends a hand
14:06 With Kickstarter success and Investor money it was time to build
15:13 Vitaliy Kiselev and the Digital Bolex controversy
17:29 "Someone Call The Cops"
19:42 The Camera ships!
20:32 They opened up the entire process of building the camera to the public
21:41 What made their camera and sensor unique
24:18 DIGITAL BOLEX FOOTAGE
24:59 The vintage look
25:32 The investors take over
27:18 Joe steps down as CEO
28:52 Digital Bolex closes up shop
29:16 Will Joe ever create another camera?
31:30 A lesson for us all
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@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
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@KK4CNM
@KK4CNM Жыл бұрын
Do I want to buy it? YES! Could I actually afford it? Probably not. What a cool project.
@laumeconroy4761
@laumeconroy4761 Жыл бұрын
I wanted one then and STILL do!
@cubax26
@cubax26 Жыл бұрын
Yes, please bring them back!!!
@cineffect
@cineffect Жыл бұрын
I am saving for it, instead of a new car 😉
@tanzkatzen
@tanzkatzen Жыл бұрын
@@cineffect What are they going for these days? My brother just gave me one to try out, hardly used (1project) with grip, three silver Bolex Kish lenses, a Zeiss Tevidon 35, and the leather bag.. pretty snazzy..I've updated it to the latest firmware I could find. but it's a bit sluggish in use although better than when I first turned it on. He might let it go as there are easier tools available these days.
@ThatBrendonGuy
@ThatBrendonGuy Жыл бұрын
I'd never heard of this Joe fella until now, but now I've got massive respect for him and I hope we haven't seen the last of his contributions to filmmaking...
@TheInsideoftheBox
@TheInsideoftheBox Жыл бұрын
He's very active in shooting with the Sigma FP and sharing his work on various FP pages on Facebook.
@indierent7168
@indierent7168 Жыл бұрын
He could have been the Steve Jobs of Filmmaking Cameras
@dextrodemon
@dextrodemon Жыл бұрын
he does have a nice wig
@theme7363
@theme7363 Жыл бұрын
i submit. who’s joe?
@m.f.3347
@m.f.3347 Жыл бұрын
@@theme7363 joe mother
@ankitjojha
@ankitjojha Жыл бұрын
Someone give Joe a hug. He’s such a top dude for going with his gut and actually managing to make a spellbinding product that ACTUALLY emulated a filmic texture on camera. Holy shit.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
haha for real! Loved the textured look from the camera
@ankitjojha
@ankitjojha Жыл бұрын
@@FrameVoyager man, if someone can convince him to bring back that Bolex with slightly updated specs and affordability I would probably get it so bad my god.
@toneohm
@toneohm Жыл бұрын
@@ankitjojha 10 years have gone by.. nothing looks as authentic.. why can't they apply that sensor and try again??
@ankitjojha
@ankitjojha Жыл бұрын
@@toneohm I swear the closest any camera came was the original BMPCC
@cheetahluv210
@cheetahluv210 Жыл бұрын
@@toneohm cus it’s expensive and it’s a niche market but who knows
@prolost
@prolost Жыл бұрын
As one of the early filmmaking bloggers who picked up on the Digital Bolex story with a mix of skepticism and hope, I’ll say again what I said when Joe and Elle delivered their first D16s to delighted backers: “Holy crap, you made a camera.”
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 for real though! I can totally understand the skepticism of it all.
@Mananetwork
@Mananetwork Жыл бұрын
I purchased this camera just after the kickstarter. It was a little wild putting the funds down to purchase this camera but it was one of the few cameras that shot in cDNG (raw) that wasn't 15k+. It was a bumpy road for the first few firmware updates put until the last two. Beautifully soft image quality, global shutter, amazing XLR quality and lots of high quality 16mm lenses to play with. I loved the camera!
@Jmccabe1111
@Jmccabe1111 Жыл бұрын
Joe taught me what shutter angle was as I sat in his apartment after buying my first Digital camera the D16. I'll never forget that Joe. You're the best man!!
@drewnoirfilmz
@drewnoirfilmz Жыл бұрын
Holy fricken crap!! I worked with Joe in the mid 2000’s! We worked on a film together! I remember him using an old 16mm (I think it was an Arri) he was constantly fixing that thing. I had no idea he was involved with this!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Haha yep! Cool coincidence!
@asimpletune
@asimpletune Жыл бұрын
Somebody get this guy a camera company. Thanks for making this! Your best episode yet.
@noopy4085
@noopy4085 Жыл бұрын
Don't
@rosa_midia
@rosa_midia Жыл бұрын
word
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 7 ай бұрын
why didnt he sell his camera to film schools
@guobadia53156
@guobadia53156 Жыл бұрын
Hugged my D16 the entire way through ;-;. It's a truly precious camera.
@RonStratton
@RonStratton Жыл бұрын
Joe is a great guy who I consider a friend, I proudly use my 2TB Bolex to this day! It’s a fantastic camera and a cherished tool in my collection.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
I want one now too 😭 would be such a cool camera to pull out
@photography_night_school
@photography_night_school Жыл бұрын
Had one two, one of the first bakers) Such nice camera. And great story. Sadly, I sold my couple years ago. Regretting ever since))
@jasonscott526
@jasonscott526 Жыл бұрын
Delighted to hear the family Bolex member wasn't immediately rushing out to cash in on the name and took it seriously. Kudos.
@novelezra
@novelezra Жыл бұрын
Never heard of this camera or this story but all I can think about now is hoping that Joe looks past the corporate greed and tries again. He did what million dollar camera companies seemingly struggle to do with all their money. Make magic.
@TECH3_
@TECH3_ Жыл бұрын
that footage really looked like magic
@philipbloom
@philipbloom Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, I didn’t realise I sold him all his cameras. I’ve still got mine. Now you just need to spell my name correctly! 😀
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
I used 2 "L"s didn't I? 😩 Funny enough I spelled it correctly in the Fran 8k video 😅
@philipbloom
@philipbloom Жыл бұрын
@@FrameVoyager be great if you could add a credit in the description with a link to my channel...and yes, you used two Ls when I only have one.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
@@philipbloom will do! Apologies for not having already done that
@romana8203
@romana8203 Жыл бұрын
Watching this with my Digital Bolex right beside me on my desk. I have many camera options these days including a trusty Alexa, URSA 12k and all kinds of new gadgets. But you know what... the D16 to this very day produces the goddamn richest, most beautiful colors out there. Dynamic range is poor, sensitivity is poor, many aspects to the day to day utility of using the camera are... poor. But when I shoot that thing with native Super 16 lenses like the super speeds, it produces the most film-like image you could ever hope to get from a digital sensor. It's not a camera for everything but when you have the budget and time to work around it's shortcomings, the payoff is huge. I'll never sell mine.
@GS-vb3zn
@GS-vb3zn Жыл бұрын
So how do you correct the dreaded Digital Bolex red shift in post? Or are you one of the owners who don't see it as a problem or don't see it at all (which was always inexplicable to me) or look at it as an enhancement that makes it look like vintage Kodak movie film stock? Legitimately asking because back in the day in the Personal View forum there was a lot of back and forth over this problem.
@tears2040
@tears2040 Жыл бұрын
@@GS-vb3zn Every single camera will have a minus , you work around that and bring your most important content which is your *idea. A simple shift in color, moire , etc doesn’t stop creators intent or ultimate vision which 9 out of 10 people viewing your content won’t even notice………
@romana8203
@romana8203 Жыл бұрын
@@GS-vb3zn Just saw this sorry. That issue does not exist today. But, I know what you're talking about. When the camera was released there was no accurate way to take its log profile into REC709 color space. NLE's and Resolve improperly displayed colors in a way where everything was a magenta mess. These days though? You can accurate display and manipulate the log footage in ACES color space, you can convert it to ARRI log accurately and use all the many LUTs available for the Alexa, and you can use a very powerful beautiful REC709 LUT created by the community to instantly get proper color for quick work
@GS-vb3zn
@GS-vb3zn Жыл бұрын
@@romana8203 Thanks for the answer. The red shift issue was what held me back from actually purchasing the DB. However, when the Monochrome DB came out I wanted to buy two of the units. I contacted Joe telling him I’d buy two immediately. He never got back to me after repeated attempts.
@joshuabrazile
@joshuabrazile Жыл бұрын
Beautiful work all round. I remember seeing these cameras here and there, but I didn't know anything about them. The footage from them is just stunning and it's criminal that they aren't still being made. Such an amazing story.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! And yeah, the fact was it was successful and probably could still be running today
@morkovija
@morkovija Жыл бұрын
Ok I was not expecting a 30 minute video to be captivating enough to keep me glued for the whole thing. Thank you for making this
@KirtFitzpatrick
@KirtFitzpatrick Жыл бұрын
I just now realized that was a 30 minute video.
@Cheecken
@Cheecken Жыл бұрын
Great episode! I loved the personal angle in this one and Joseph seems to be a smart and well meaning guy. I hope he can surprise us with another nice indie camera some time in the future 😁
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yeah, I'd be very interested to see another camera from in him in the future.
@MrZilminator
@MrZilminator Жыл бұрын
Maybe Joe could team up with Blackmagic to help make a groundbreaking Box Style camera. 🤔😋
@MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS
@MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS Жыл бұрын
Amazing episode, recently found this series and am hooked. This episode in particular was interesting because I remember when the kickstarter went up over a decade ago. One thing this series has shown me too is that the industry should’ve stuck with CCD sensors at the high-end, those images are so beautiful.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
haha glad we got you hooked! Been a fascinating series to make and glad there is a such a large audience for it!
@Dncyx
@Dncyx Жыл бұрын
I like to say this is a great piece of documentary. Unlike the hollywood blockbusters of today, Joe's story is one filled with passion and heart. It's a shame it didn't have a happy ending
@AuroraAtAngelsTen
@AuroraAtAngelsTen Жыл бұрын
I worked at an entertainment camera startup recently and this is just so beautifully done. The powerful musical sequences just brought me to tears thinking about how Joe and crew succeeded, and how hard it was to try to achieve even a small slice of that.
@erick-gd7wo
@erick-gd7wo Жыл бұрын
This is the most analog looking picture from any digital camera. I love the colors.
@ecmjr
@ecmjr Жыл бұрын
WOW!!! I like this episode! I'm so sad that Joe ended up leaving the company and the camera not being sold mainstream anymore. It really shows the ugly side of business.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
The camera business is a very ugly business 😅😅😅
@ivaks2586
@ivaks2586 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating episode, loved every second of it! Big props to Joe for coming on, it's amazing to get first hand insight into the production and decisions that were made.
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 Жыл бұрын
I remember when this thing was announced and i was very interested in it. The Sensor here really was the crucial part because CCDs just work so much better than CMOS for moving images. This is also what i realized when i compared my SD camcorders to my HD camcorders. The way image sensors are read-out really DOES affect the picture aesthetic and how the light paints it on pixels. And i still really wish i had this Camera because it has everything i'd ever need from a digital movie camera. Except maybe the resolution part. But hey.... do you REALLY need 4K or 8K? However i really hated that it had absolutely no viewfinder at all. Unlike the Ikonoscop A-Cam DII 16mm which was announced around the same time i think.
@zippymufo9765
@zippymufo9765 Жыл бұрын
Those Ikonoskops had a beautiful image as well.
@pasyensyatv9092
@pasyensyatv9092 Жыл бұрын
Its an amazing project that should have been supported, the big companies got scared of it. but looking at the footages i think it has this pure color palette. i wish they could continue it and find another investor
@MrZilminator
@MrZilminator Жыл бұрын
Oh man! Such a fantastic video, Joseph has my respect 🙏🏽 It’s devastating he had his dreams, and all that hard work, leveraged from him. Thank you @FrameVoyager for yet another amazing camera documentary. 👏🏼😀🙏🏽🙏🏽
@scottmiller5308
@scottmiller5308 Жыл бұрын
I actually donated $1 to this kickstarter, thought it was going to be the next big thing. It's a shame that the business plan of selling to schools never went through. Awesome video and nice work on the interview with Joe. Looking forward to the next!
@MrZilminator
@MrZilminator Жыл бұрын
Yeh I thought it was going to be huge at the time, I donated $50 so I’d get a T-shirt, still have it and wear it from time to time. 😊
@Made_by_Matthew
@Made_by_Matthew Жыл бұрын
Out of all the cameras and camera companies in this series this one should have been a success. There's no reason other than greed and mismanagement that we haven't seen a db16-2 or Db16-3 by now. What a shame
@laumeconroy4761
@laumeconroy4761 Жыл бұрын
I was so excited for this camera! Barely missed the kickstarter and kept hoping i’d be able to get one. Just re-checked the kickstarter about a year ago in hopes there would be another update. I love the image that came out of this camera, one of the most filmic images I’ve ever seen from digital.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Wish I had gotten in on it too 😭
@N4CR5
@N4CR5 Жыл бұрын
Wow, they do shoot an amazingly smooth, old school look. I get the hype now. I also love the attention to detail in design of the camera and why he did things, like going the complete opposite way to most designs - deliberately running it hot, keeping many separate boards etc etc. That said, going the opposite way is awesome too, cooled astrophotography cameras kick ass. They now are at zero black noise... nothing, can you believe that?
@vipadventure
@vipadventure Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to buy a used one for awhile now but they're so expensive :( Love the colours of the footage.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Yeah, would love to get my hands on one too! Would be a great travel camera just with that interesting image it puts out
@ludovicavice3496
@ludovicavice3496 Жыл бұрын
Damn....what a beauty, I saw it while it was released and at that time I was more into animation and price was already insane but not as insane as video cameras of it's time haha. Thanks a lot for time and research put into this..I am sure the price is going to go even crazier now 🤯
@Fredrik_Ekholm
@Fredrik_Ekholm Жыл бұрын
The digital Bolex was and still is one of my favorite cameras of all time! Big respect to Joe and the team behind it. So sad how it ended 😢
@toneohm
@toneohm Жыл бұрын
I was in my junior year at Temple University when that Kickerstarter went up... When I saw that test footage of that little girl reading the book, I was blown away... I always wondered what happened to this D16 project.. I would love to have a Digital Bolex... To this day.. nothing looks more realistic to film.. I would love the get that grainy old 16mm film stock look like this camera offered.. It kills me that it isn't around.. Why hasn't it been tried again yet?? Does anything else give such a film look today?
@JP-qq2wy
@JP-qq2wy Жыл бұрын
This camera is one of those camera that I want to have it.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Same!
@lukelehner9165
@lukelehner9165 Жыл бұрын
Sean Price Williams (the DP of The Safdie Brothers movies pre-Uncut Gems, all of Alex Ross Perry's movies, and a few Abel Ferrara movies) used the Digital Bolex for two of his most recently shot movies, Project Space 13 (2021) and Zeros and ones (2021) as a cheap alternative to shooting on film when the production didn't have the budget for it. It's one of my white whale cameras
@TimButt2
@TimButt2 Жыл бұрын
I still love the look of this camera. Still remember learning film first on the Bolex H16 in college. So I would have loved using the Digital Bolex as well. Gonna have to see if I can get my hands on one for the unique look it has. Shoot it with some classic C-Mount 16mm Lenses that I would have used on the Bolex H16. The thing I loved about the Digital Bolex was that it gave such an amazing digital vintage image.
@elizabeth3280
@elizabeth3280 Жыл бұрын
Joseph seems like a genuine enginerr/developer who put a lot of love into this project. I think I would use that camera present day because based on what is presented it looks high end production. He should be proud of his development.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
💯
@videosuperhighway7655
@videosuperhighway7655 27 күн бұрын
He is like Wozniak but instead of meeting and partnering with Steve Jobs he partnered with the Oracle CEO😂
@elizabeth3280
@elizabeth3280 27 күн бұрын
@@videosuperhighway7655 I see what ye did there haha
@matthewneiman
@matthewneiman Жыл бұрын
The image from my X-T4 is absolutely gorgeous, sharp, and completely clean up to 2000 iso, but the gosh darn rolling shutter is that one remnant manufacturers of consumer level CMOS video cameras seem unwilling to address. it completely changes the feel of the image every time the camera is moved, and for the work that I do I would much prefer a softer image from a universal shutter to a super sharp and sensitive, but wobbly CMOS. IBIS helps mitigate the CMOS wobble a bit but takes so much of the handheld character away from the image. It's the last vestige of the 'film look' that so many modern cameras still just don't have. I've been thinking about trying to pick up an old Digital Bolex for a while for this very reason.
@C.I...
@C.I... Жыл бұрын
Global shutter is criminally underrated as a feature. It's insane how limiting a rolling shutter is to the creation of moving images - and that's the key point, because what is the point of owning a camera whose job is to capture movement, but forces you to avoid certain kind of movement? Whip pans and zooms and other quick dynamic movements are now avoided by so many, simply because they look awful with rolling shutter. Ditto with hard mounting the camera onto moving objects like cars, because vibrations make the image become a warped wobbly mess. A whole gimbal industry has bloomed due to the need for complete steadiness at all times. Imagine if an audio recorder recorded the sound one frequency at a time with a delay - nobody would put up with that. The Blackmagic Production Camera 4K, and the older 2K one also have a global shutter. I just wish they had their controls on buttons/dials instead of a touch screen.
@RyderSpearmann
@RyderSpearmann Жыл бұрын
The output from that camera is SPECTACULAR... what an amazing look. SO wish I had one.
@stevenwhoward87
@stevenwhoward87 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I did that heroshot illustration for Joe years and years ago so it is interesting to see where his product went. Thanks for showing my illustration so much in the video by the way!
@toddpeterson5904
@toddpeterson5904 Жыл бұрын
Well done! I've been watching this series since the beginning, and it's really finding it's style and voice. Can't wait for more
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Would be great if we had a guest for every episode like this but very rare look and interview time spent on this one!
@xandersnyder7214
@xandersnyder7214 Жыл бұрын
I love this video series, normally I am captivated by the new innovations and then the abandonment (usually due to the hubris of the company or creator). But this one felt like a gut punch, Joe had a fantastic vision for the Digital Bolex, and by all accounts did it the right way by doing everything above board in the open. Only to have an investor who just didn't see the his vision. You could hear his passion, and pain, I just wanted to give him a hug at the end! And the example footage you included looked fantastic, the Digital Bolex had such a warm, vibrant, and unique quality. It didn't have the antiseptic feel that a lot of modern sensors have now. I am new on my journey into filming, but this was something truly unique and special and I hope that Joe eventually comes out with something new in the future.
@guaposneeze
@guaposneeze Жыл бұрын
FWIW, I've met Elle a few times. (Never met Joe, AFAIK.) We aren't besties or anything, but I've met her and talked to her. She's legit. If Vitaly from "Personal View" told me the sky was blue and Elle told me the sky was green, I'd honestly think the sky was green. She generally knows what she's talking about. Vitaly, OTOH, has always been a bit inclined to conspiracy theory nonsense. If you look at his website in the last few years, it is less about hacking color profiles on the GH1, and more about Covid vaccines, climate change conspiracies, and WWIII. He's one step away from full on paranoid delusions like thinking the government is using the radio to send secret messages to his teeth.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Oh nice! Yeah, stuff like this is hard to be able to get everyone's perspective on. But she seemed like what you said in some of the videos I saw her in. And yeah, Vitaly is something else 😂 he already shared this video
@iunboxstuff635
@iunboxstuff635 Жыл бұрын
That was a very interesting video, such a cool camera. Major respect for Joe. I have the original Bolex that my dad bought in 76 and it still works like a charm! :)
@HTOP1982
@HTOP1982 Жыл бұрын
I always loved the fact that these guys built a 2K CCD camera when everyone else was running towards the inferior CMOS. I *almost* ordered one. I should have ordered one.
@pilsplease7561
@pilsplease7561 Жыл бұрын
CMOS is still inferior CMOS is noisier, has a slow readout, CCD is instant as the entire sensor is read at once, and CCD has superior sharpness and color accuracy. Old Nikons with a CCD sensor produce images better than new CMOS nikons with like 10X the MP
@cineffect
@cineffect Жыл бұрын
Love the color science of the 3CCD sensor, wish they would bring it back.
@pilsplease7561
@pilsplease7561 Жыл бұрын
CCD sensors are cleaner by nature than any CMOS sensor and have way faster read out speeds, they take all the sensor in 1 go, and have no rolling shutter, and vastly better colors. A fun fact is that CMOS is older than CCD and that CMOS existed was found to be inferior, they invented CCD Used it for years but it was expensive and technologically superior and then the industry moved back to CMOS for the cost savings its cheaper to make and inferior and has a lot of cons that CCD doesnt have.
@ParamSinghYT
@ParamSinghYT Жыл бұрын
This man's been through a lot, his deep experience and knowledge tells... The fact about Indian cinema he said hold very true...huge respect....he told his story on his own...it's empowering I think the new world today, as much as it has its +ves, the -ves are also increased...one might face difficulties from big players in the field to grow as always... I really wish he launches his company again and make digital bolex cameras again... distribute them to film schools worldwide, provide to rental houses and would really like to make it commercially available in short slots...the picture quality from this DB camera looks so amazing..if it's not graded and straight out of the camera...really like the texture and film look. Masterpiece ahead of its time imo. And I'm a fan of this channel with this abandoned series. Kudos to the creator. From a fellow filmmaker ;)
@TECH3_
@TECH3_ Жыл бұрын
this could have been the go to camera for indie filmmakers with low to no budget who wants to shoot something that looks like film
@davidmichael2011
@davidmichael2011 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I am truly amazed of what he was able to accomplish. I remember hearing about this camera. I never gave it much thought other than its name. I've shot with film Bolex's before may moons ago and really like them. I even bought 2. But I remember hearing that this wasn't actually from Bolex. Now after seeing this Abandoned episode I am totally amazed. I would love to get a hold of one. Some of the footage here really does look nostalgic like from a 1970's 16mm film. It's too bad that he was not compatible with his investor, who knows what else they could've accomplished. This sounds similar to the Steve Jobs and Apple situation with John Sculley. Well hopefully Joseph Rubinstein catches a second wind because he definitely shouldn't call a wrap on developing his vision for a camera or anything else for that matter. Awesome episode!!!
@christykail3314
@christykail3314 Жыл бұрын
It's a nice little hangover/momento that when importing CDNG files into Silverstack, it still shows the "Camera Type" field as "Digital Bolex".
@nessriden4512
@nessriden4512 Жыл бұрын
BEST episode yet! Love that you were able to speak to the creator of this, cool to hear some of the inside story!
@nessriden4512
@nessriden4512 Жыл бұрын
Also the footage from the camera is maybe my favourite from any digital camera
@vinarkmp
@vinarkmp Жыл бұрын
Awesome episode. As a film maker I remember being at SCAD when this camera was almost released (2012). I think the BMPCC 4k and 6k picked up where this camera left off.
@Standbackforscience
@Standbackforscience Жыл бұрын
It's amazing that in 2022 we still don't have a camera that has this look. Everything today is overpriced hard digital crap. What a legend.
@tony92506
@tony92506 Жыл бұрын
what a cool camera, I remember when it came out, I had started saving for it, then all of a sudden you couldn't buy one. Now there are other cameras out there but still this is still such a great camera and origin story. Thank goodness for people like joe.
@Victor-Rojas
@Victor-Rojas Жыл бұрын
Very cool that you were able to interview the founder. Love the image out of that camera.
@timbrosius
@timbrosius Жыл бұрын
What I miss most about the Bolex days from film school was the lens turret. I would have bought the Digital Bolex on Kickstarter if they showed it that way but I’m not sure it supported any lens turrets. Either way it was sad to see this camera abandoned, it was a great product with a lot of passion behind it. Thanks for bringing this episode to us!
@JOEDPIP
@JOEDPIP Жыл бұрын
I actually designed and 3D printed a lens turret for the D16! It was one of the accessories that never made it to manufacturing :(
@timbrosius
@timbrosius Жыл бұрын
@@JOEDPIP Oh damn, you were really out there building my dream camera! 😩 Side note, thanks for being directly involved in this video and sharing your valuable insights and wisdom from lessons learned. I love this series in general but you made this particular episode uniquely special!
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 Жыл бұрын
Turret film cameras could barely be given away. Then the micro four thirds people discovered inexpensive adapters, and Angenieux and Swiss Kern lenses. If I had that time machine...
@photography_night_school
@photography_night_school Жыл бұрын
I always believed in creators of D16 and was hugely inspired by company goals, and camera itself. Never give-up waiting, and was totally happy then I got my d16 back in 2014) Glad to see episode about story behind) Thank you, and creators of D16)
@Deathbynature89
@Deathbynature89 Жыл бұрын
This is the first camera I thought of when you started doing the abandoned camera series. I remember Indie Mogul doing coverage on this like eight years ago.
@DynamixWarePro
@DynamixWarePro Жыл бұрын
Fascinating interview. I found out about the Digital Bolex when watching Philip Bloom's videos and seeing his review of it. Not that I wanted one, but I was interested in iit as it looked like an old pistol grip film camera and Bolex was a name I knew, so I assumed it would be just a digital version of a Bolex camera. I also liked the vintage look of the footage from the camera. I never knew about all that controversy or what happened to them though. It is great to see the camera still being used and talked about today.
@TECH3_
@TECH3_ Жыл бұрын
i knew about the bolex i knew about the digital bolex existed as well but this story, was really fascinating , and massing respect to joeseph. the camera really looked like it was close to perfection
@JKHFilms
@JKHFilms Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a bit premature since not enough time has passed, or for the fact that it's an analog camera, but I think it would be interesting to see an episode on abandoned cameras regarding the Kodak Super 8mm camera. I feel like there's not been enough information released regarding this camera, and it would be great to see if you'd be able to do an in depth breakdown as to what happened/is happening with it
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Oh for sure! That one is on the list
@waylonboner
@waylonboner Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@GFMstudios
@GFMstudios Жыл бұрын
This episode had a very interesting turn on mood with one side of the story, the side of Joseph. I think he had a clear path, and manage to carry the hardest part of the camera development. I would love one just for the style. I have seen this camera on behind the scenes footage and never knew what brand it was. I thought was a true 16 film... lol The fact that now is way more worth... is the proof that this became a iconic and unique product. Now part of the digital cinema history.
@davidhughes4089
@davidhughes4089 Жыл бұрын
Really good, well put together story. I'm not a camera enthusiast and I still found it very interesting to watch.
@ReachFilms
@ReachFilms Жыл бұрын
Dude, this is my favorite video you've ever done, really great stuff and took me down memory lane, as I was looking at this camera years ago but got a bmpcc instead due to the lens mount. Bravo
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! It helps to have the person directly involved for the episode for sure 😂
@TheEvox81
@TheEvox81 Жыл бұрын
Well... This video was certainly a pleasant surprise, as KZfaq autoplay black holes tend to go. I had never heard of this camera or the story of it.. But I'm certainly glad that I do now.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear! Trying to make content about cameras and the industry fun!
Жыл бұрын
Great work on this one! Very interesting story from Joe. Hope to see more creations from him some day.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@slickyboy667
@slickyboy667 11 ай бұрын
What a heart warming story. I have tears in my eyes from joy and I am a little sad about the outcome of the story. Thank you for telling it. Thank you Joe for this camera and the story. I hope you (joe) find someone who wants to realize your new plans and gives you the freedom that you need. I keep my fingers crossed! Subscription is made. Thumbs up as well!
@javebjorkman
@javebjorkman Жыл бұрын
Perfect length for my lunch break. You. Just. Keep. Killing. It.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅 Appreciate it!
@CreepyCoolPictures
@CreepyCoolPictures Жыл бұрын
I would still love to get my hands on the D16. It came out right after film school for me, and I could never actually afford one. But, that image is what I’m always trying to recreate with filters and overlays. Still, such a great image…
@kinoromantic
@kinoromantic Жыл бұрын
Wow! What an amazing, informative and inspiring documentary! Great work as usual! )
@tears2040
@tears2040 Жыл бұрын
Love this camera , Global shutter excellent and most importantly “color” is beautiful. Should have been higher resolution was the main problem, but honestly this camera when used properly can/has produced amazing imagery. *Of course speaking on independent projects, but that’s where many film makers have passion/love
@waylonboner
@waylonboner Жыл бұрын
Wow that was amazing. I love all of these episodes but this camera is one that I’ve always wanted. I also think this camera would do better now than it did back then (aside from investor issues)
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅 Appreciate it! Was such a cool look behind the curtain
@Ataraxia_Atom
@Ataraxia_Atom Жыл бұрын
I really like the warm grainy image coming out of the digital bolex. It would be super fun to play with
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@johnorozco9332
@johnorozco9332 Жыл бұрын
Man! I was eager to watch this episode! I actually came across this camera some years ago and I always wonder about it. Greetings !!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
It's a pretty cool story! Really interesting insights into what it's like to build a camera
@___DRIP___
@___DRIP___ Жыл бұрын
I’m not into cameras at all, but I can definitely see that the footage this thing puts out is beautiful. What a great video. Thanks for educating me today!
@MANUELHSTUMP
@MANUELHSTUMP Жыл бұрын
This has been the best episode of the series so far, congrats
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅 Appreciate it!
@robertbrown4563
@robertbrown4563 Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video!!!!! Well done!! I absolutely would have loved to own one of these gems. Great work I love these videos!!! Can’t wait to see what’s next.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅 Appreciate it! Glad everyone is enjoying the content!
@petersuvara
@petersuvara Жыл бұрын
Some incredibly amazing content on this channel. Wow! Great work.
@benmcnights1763
@benmcnights1763 Жыл бұрын
I love this series, what am I missing here? He didn’t want to sell at B&H? That doesn’t sound like a deal breaker, and why would you need any marketing on B&H side? The cameras sold themselves.Sounds like there’s more to the story. I thought the CCD went out of production and that’s why they couldn’t go on?
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
It was more of that the camera was not originally made for that. It was made to sell to film schools and now best buy and b&h. They sold to B&H and eventually B&H just dropped them. Tbh, the market research on where to sell the camera was solid.
@HilleCine
@HilleCine Жыл бұрын
I wanted one then and i want one even more now. Thanks for doing the Bolex
@expiredgamer_ugh
@expiredgamer_ugh Жыл бұрын
bring it back, but dont bring it back as a way for people to just replace their box and keep using their old accessories....bring it back for the people who want to shoot in this format and not have to hassle with finding a good source for developing films......it shoots in 16mm, has the vintage look in what it shoots, gives it out as raw as possible and accepts old accessories. This is literally a dream camera.
@mx5am945
@mx5am945 Жыл бұрын
Crazy interesting! This guy has his head screwed on properly. Amazing
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I'd love one of these camera's. Holy cow. How have I not heard of this thing!
@SourceAwareness
@SourceAwareness 9 ай бұрын
👍🏾👍🏾AMAZING DOCUMENTARY, Many Thanks to you and Joe Rubinstein! You bros are Awesome. Cheers
@RonPiggott
@RonPiggott Жыл бұрын
This was very interesting. I didn't expect this to end the way it did;
@SamHarrisonMusic
@SamHarrisonMusic Жыл бұрын
This product is utterly amazing - I wish I could afford one! ) Maybe one day something like this can come back to us?
@lorenzoarrigoni4155
@lorenzoarrigoni4155 Жыл бұрын
I'm not really a prolific writer on KZfaq, but this is a great video and the best episode of this series so far. Bravo!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅 Appreciate it!
@ozzmanzz
@ozzmanzz Жыл бұрын
Really well put together! Thanks for posting
@mygorgeousmedia
@mygorgeousmedia Жыл бұрын
This company deserves high praises! 🙌🏾🙏🏽💯
@davebrown1028
@davebrown1028 Жыл бұрын
excellent. episode ... best one. yet of the series ...someday love to shoot one of those D-16,, Good on you Joe
@PanDownTiltLeft
@PanDownTiltLeft Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Always wondered what the story was behind this camera.
@melvinharris1210
@melvinharris1210 Жыл бұрын
I literally have a picture of me holding a working camera, this camera from SXSW! I loved this thing but I had just ordered what would become the original BMCC and was tapped out for cameras! Great video!
@HouseofAndy
@HouseofAndy Жыл бұрын
Very inspiring episode. Great work Frame Voyager. That Joe chap is a legend
@dannycalley7777
@dannycalley7777 Жыл бұрын
HOA .............paid his dues in full !!!!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@rawmediapaul
@rawmediapaul Жыл бұрын
This was sooo good!!! Thank you FV!
@theonlinething1039
@theonlinething1039 Жыл бұрын
Awesome episode, your content keeps getting better and better… only downside this time is, I wish I had a D16, but I never had the chance to get my hands on one
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! haha and same!
@LukeZalvino
@LukeZalvino Жыл бұрын
I've never wanted a camera so bad. Excellent engaging video
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@tgrey_shift..mp334
@tgrey_shift..mp334 Жыл бұрын
Guys we need to make this technology more known. Tell this to everyone. Get people to know the creator of this. This is too beautiful and revolutionary to be lost to history.
@RamasolaProductions
@RamasolaProductions Жыл бұрын
Great story on Joe! I was wondering if you could also look into whatever happened to the developer that hacked the dvx100 camera to output something like a raw or high bitrate signal and even retrofitted a cable socket on the side. I think the posts on this was in dvxuser.
@Dahrenhorst
@Dahrenhorst Жыл бұрын
I remember that Kickstarter project well - I contemplated to buy such a Bolex, but didn't had the funds at that time.
@ezrarichardson279
@ezrarichardson279 Жыл бұрын
This is the most uplifting and some what hopeful abandoned camera you’ve covered yet!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
It was nice to have a human side to it! Not all of the stories have one narrative like that
@ezrarichardson279
@ezrarichardson279 Жыл бұрын
@@FrameVoyager Yeah, I really enjoyed this one because it felt like it wasn’t a complete loss compared to the other ones!
@buknar456
@buknar456 Жыл бұрын
Right! I mean if you're gonna only cover gear definitely choose relics/niches like this camera...if FV made one more vid about BM pocket cams I was just gonna flip out scream...screen
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 been a while since I've made a balckmagic video 😂
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