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Its funny to think that odin could have gotten more knowledge and purpose if he traveled outside of the Norse realms.

One more thing that may add to your theory, When "Tyr" talks to Atreus, he says that the afterlife where laufey went to was guarded by forces and an entity far older than Odin.

Interesting theory. I do agree that Gram was the giant wolf, Hróðvitnir, but I think the Giants are the ones that stole Hróðvitnir's soul, not the Demiurge. Why do I think this? We must remember that Mimir called Hróðvitnir "a great nemesis of the Aesir gods." The only way the Aesir could Hróðvitnir at bay was to kidnap and imprison his pups, Skoll and Hati, which tells me that not even Thor, the slayer of Giants, was a match for the arch wolf. So, when the Giants decide to leave Midgard for Jotunheim, they probably asked Hróðvitnir to join them, but the wolf giant was having none of it and wanted to continue to be the bane of the Aesir. But the Giants couldn't let Hróðvitnir go because of his power to travel between realms. They probably feared that should Odin and Aesir capture Hróðvitnir, they could force him to open a path to Jotunhiem. So, they whispered Hróðvitnir's soul from his body; hoping that the wolf would be harmless like the soulless animals we see in Ironwood. But instead, they created Gram, a soulless beast that jeopardized the nine realms, if not all of reality. At least until Tyr trapped him in Helhiem. But one must ask why would Hróðvitnir want to continue to fight the Aesir if it jeopardized the safety of the Giants. The answer is simple: Revenge. I believe that Hróðvitnir was the loyal companion of Ymir, the primordial being of Norse Mythology. Together, using Hróðvitnir's power to open paths to over places, traveled in search of knowledge to help create a better pantheon. But then, Odin came along and killed Ymir; using his body to create Midgard. This could explain why Gram, whom I suspect was still Hróðvitnir at the time, ate a part of Midgard and the 5th season. It wasn't becasue he was very hungry, but to damage what Odin created and piss him off. Also, by being the loyal companion of Ymir, it also helps explain why the mask reacted Hróðvitnir, now Gram. Because the mask once belonged to Ymir, who used the mask to see into the rift and gain knowledge. All in an effort to be better then those that came before, only for Odin to mess things up. I will admit that there is little to no evidence to support this theory, but I was an idea I've had for a while and felt it was worth share. What do you think.

Fun fact in ancient Scandinavia there was 13 months and Nine days and 5 seasons (the reason for nine days if mentioned a few times such as Drupnir dropping 8 normal gold copies of itself on the ninth day). Probably where they got the idea that Garm ate the 5th season this leaving 12 months and 6 days in Old Norse (Viking age, and yes before the Vikings there was the Drengr, though if a Drengr does and doesn't go to Valhalla or Helheim he would come back as a Draugr, funny enough only magic or magical weapons plus fire can kill a Draugr...or lightning if you are Thör. Btw the first 6 days of the week are all Norse, Sunday or Sol's Day (Sol meaning sun), Monday or Manny's day (Manny being the Moon, so moon day aka Monday), Tuesday is Tyr's day, Wednesday is Wöden's day aka Odin's Day, Thursday is Thör's day, Friday is Frigg's day. Saturday is Taken by the Roman God of Time Saturn, so Saturn's day.

I thought the mask reacted because it was simply the correct coordinate of space, but the wrong realm, yet close enough in frequency for the mask to react anyway

2:01 but angerboda never taught loki how to take a soul bc he did it to finrer before he even knew her. Right?

Maybe Garm was originally Fenrir, but Fen’s soul was taken from his real body into that of a soulless wolf that was without a soul for so long it was doomed to die anyway. It would explain how Fenrir can so easily use Garm’s powers.

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Once i heard how tyr let garm bite his arm off to trap him, i became convinced that what the mask responding too. tyr travelled the realms and was exposed the higher plain so the mask was pointing to the arm still in garms guts.

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Garm had a soul tho didnt he? Bc angerbora says the animals didnt have a soul they couldn't eat so she had to remind them

How come garm was active though. The other souless monster would just stand there, like a lamp or chair or something.

Love you how manage to make the story of god of war that much more interesting

I defiantly believe Athena came to the Norse realms. If you fight all the travelers the lore says they were visited by a “blind visitor” that told them to explore the realms and they would be rewarded.

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AbdBay : filling plot hole and connecting the dots santa monica studio: i dont think that far, but thanks for filling the hole

Dude, your intro is one of my favorites of all the youtubers.

Wow I didn't even notice that shit at the time. Good work catching that subtle ass action.

Ooooohkay i get what ur saying now. Adbay again with another Ragnarok discovery. Great job bro! Btw I prove odin is alive in my latest video. Let me kno what u think.

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In some poems Garm & Fenrir are the same beast (hyperthettically) another name for Fenrir is also called Hróđvitnir (which in the GoW lore is a separate beast & the father of Sköll & Hati) so there was some creative liberties taken here. Now this could be the incredibly roundabout theory of yours where Hróđvitnir became Garm who became Fenrir OR all 3 wolves are separate entities & this is a case of character de-stinction. Hróđvitnir is father of Sköll & Hati (with them kidnapped by Asgard in order to keep him from attacking & the giants later freeing them from imprisonment. He is most likley now dead or missing like the rest of his kin), Garm was given the rest of Fenrir's more evil aspects while keeping the lore of being the Hel-hound. Fenrir is a normal wolf who becomes the wolf of legend & Loki's "son" through his rebirth in Garm's body.

what if the other 3 parts of finrir's soul are in different parts of the nine realms and one of the quests in the next GOW will be to find the 3 remaining pieces and return them back to him? i feel like there will definitely be more of this story to come...

"VEKNA!!!!" whispered Atreus quietly.

Thanks for keeping Odins scream in lol

Great theory , I can even had to this so here is some free content , Corry stated that Athena death was one of the most important things that happen because it was the first selfless death of a god and so she entered an higher state of existing , on her death her body dematerialized into particles of green energy and the mask has exactly the same energy colour to it but there is only one other god that had a very similar death and his body also dematerialized in a very similar way but with blue energy and that god was Thor, no other god had this happen to them not even Baldur, perhaps Thor was blue because he is a norths god or something else.

If the demiurge theory was true then would that he be the final boss of the gow series? Like imagine the demiurge having an army and kratos is teaming up with gods from different pantheons including Jesus and the monad

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Please work please work please work! Atreus delivered that moment so well.

Seen this theory last month. I conch.

interactions between atreus and thor implies odin knows the wolf is chained and wants to keep it that way meaning odin may have put him there to begin with

Only video i’ve seen explaining why the mask reacted to garm

I think the rift is thus Santa Monico studios

Great video!

If it wasn't really Athena in Kratos' home in 2018 and the creators have already confirmed this then I think it at the very least hints that the higher plane story(which I think WILL happen at some point) may not be the answer for the mask and rift. I still and will continue to maintain this is totally a Harry Potter and Prisoner of Azkeban setup. We stoll don't know who blew the horn in 2018 and if it was Angrboda why wouldn't she just let that factoid drop at some point? She would have no reason to not tell Loki. I think Loki will at some point arrive at a time turner scenario where he realizes he set everything up, for things to play out the way they did in Ragnarok. He would know all the pertinent timing and events to a T. Also I mean I'd like to hope that in terms of creative story telling that the missing link ISNT "THESE 3 THINGS ALL SHARE THE SAME COLOR SO THATS THE ANSWER" Kind of a lame story element imo.

My brain trying to process that hrothufnir or whatever, garm, and fenrir are all the same dogs:

Part of Fenrir's soul? His entire soul went into Ateus' knife. Lol

so after all the demiorge is who is leading odin into madness and killing ymir and the giants , +intresting theorie bro

ما شاء الله عاشت ايدك اخوي شرح جدا راقي ونظرية قوية

Weird how Atreus gives Garm the soul by just stabbing while later he needs to do the incantation with the snake.

I know the video is based off of the game and the mythology done in the way Santa Monica portrayed it, but Garm was actually another monstrous canine, he wasn't a wolf, but he was to Hela as a sense of guard for Helheim, like a hellhound persay, but your theory on the lore of the game does actually makes sense, because I was thrown off seeing a normal sized Fenrir that was dying, and how Mimir shared the binding of Garm being the same as the Binding of Fenrir

I saw another video about this a few days ago, they came to most of the same conclusions, only thing they had different was the reason for *why* the Demiurge would have done it. I don't remember the full details, but they actually believe that when we saw Athena in GoW 3, it wasn't Athena, but the Demiurge disguised as her. I don't remember much on what they said about recruiting Garm to search for the mask, but I remember them saying it was a failure, leading them to try a different approach with Odin by promising infinite knowledge. I'm not sure how much I agree with the Athena part, as she is in GoW 4 briefly and I don't think she'd stick around Kratos after failing to use him if she was actually the Demiurge in disguise, but I also see parts that make sense. It's definitely interesting.

A really REALLY good theory but... weren`t the giants the only ones that could remove souls?

The mask is probably alot older than Athenas spirit would be. There is probably no way she could be the one to create it, then spread it across Norse realms for no reason.

Have feeling we will use garm to tear a hole into a different pantheon for next gow

The part of Fenrir's soul that went into the knife was its Direction, the part of the soul that guides the other 3. The other 3 parts of soul did not go to Alfheim light! They went to Garm's body, guided by the Direction part from Atreus's knife!

just goes to show there is something bigger at play here happening between the pantheons

So demiurge took Hróđvitnir's soul and the body became Garm. But Where did Fenrir come from? You don't explain it. demiurge took Hróđvitnir's soul and put it in a random wolf? edit : without answer, i downvote

intro music please ?

How come only one of Fenrir's four soul bits got put into the knife? What were the other three bits? Where did they go?

I think he got it twisted up with Fenrir, because garm becomes Fenrir after his soul is put into Garm's body, afyer he died at the beginning of the game.

They really hit us with fenrir dying

There is a myth for the word for hunger so great it consumes itself.

you make some good theories you should make god of war what if's like what if ares took kratos instead or what if zeus didnt destroy all of kratos godly weapons during the final battle in god of war 3

This is all really really shocking me on so much I have in ragnarok?!

do you believe that someday we will see what this rift is or maybe a God of War game with the plain of existence and Demiurge?

A version of mythology where all the different pantheons are just different races of beings from different realms and a higher plane of existence being the realm of omniscient good and evil creators? The next God of War is surely going to take things to the next level.

Dis makes sense 🤔🤔💯💯🙌🙌

You better not change this intro ever idc how many years

for me there are 2 wolves living in the same time and maybe just like the serpent he can go back in time and so he is both in the past and in the future together with the fenrir cub and Skoll and Hati that in the future we will be able to see some dialogue or see the origin of these wolves... of Garm/Fenrir and the Hrodviltnir Wolf that is out there and it still hasn't appeared or been mentioned but the theory that both are the same thing makes sense that Garm is Horodviltnir before he dies and goes to Hell and there is also the thing about the kraken that is missing and not even appears and I think the kraken is that octopus from Durlin... interesting theory and I like your theory make a video about this mysterious wolf and the kraken and how they might appear in the future🤔😮😁✌Like and bye!

Thanks for this, it sucks that the game hid her. Athena was one of the bigger reasons i sought Ragnarok.

How did Kratos get to Egypt?

It's a very interesting theory while all we can do is speculate, but (and i might be totally wrong) i think it's very unlikely that the Christian community is gonna allow a game company to put Jesus in a game like god of war, they would probably set every videogame store on fire if that happened XD

I may have to watch this a couple times you lost me during the Middle when you're talking about the three wolves is there some kind of time-travel shenanigans

In the myths. Yes. Everything you've said. Also in the sagas. I dunno. Could be.. sure.

To me it would make more sense if Odin took his souls because he was a nemesis to the asier

one thing i noticed tho, Fen's soul has 4 parts of it, three of them went to Alfheim, while one remained in Atreus's knife.... (SPOLIER ALERT) wouldn't Fenrir suffer the same fate as Brok? because Fenrir's soul isn't complete at least to my understanding, if he dies again, then he is forever gone just like Brok....

U do make it make sense and it makes sense if that makes sense

Wouldn't kratos recognize him though?

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is when Atreus says he can't feel the animal and Angraboda explains to him. There's nothing to feel because he doesn't have a soul. But when he gets to hel and you're actually untying garm he's saying he can feel garm. But if garm doesn't have a soul like the other animal, how can he feel garm but not the other animal with Angroboda?

Still the coolest intro out there

I want to see Kratos fight apophis

But Fenrir is the son of Loki and Angrboda…. So there’s that.

Good vid

Nice Video

You forgot to add in the lore of Mask to this. I’m assuming the mask from the movie Mask is the same mask Odin was after.

There's nothing that states or even implies that fenrir dies due to fimbulwinter. He was just sick. If it was caused by fimbulwinter, then by that logic speki and svana (I think those are the names) wouldn't have been well either, meaning kratos and atreus wouldn't have a sled in Midgard. It's so stupid when content creators treat their own headcanon as fact

Your theory doesn't take into account how Fenrir ended up in the body of a normal wolf

So you think garm had a soul when he was a pup?

Why is Athena in every theory? She has nothing to do with anything outside of greece

Zeus had white eyes but did he have a soul?🤔

ok, soooooo... What?!

Why is nobody connecting this game to jim carrey's "the mask"?. I mean, there's no connection, but it's the only other time loki has been connected to a mask

Bro very little Dad of War follows Norse mythology. Fenrir, Jourmungndr and a few others were the children of Loki and Angraboda. Both of which have not fucked or had kids in Dad of War. So Fenrir being born after Skal and Hati doesn't matter.

Hey bro ily sm and I appreciate ur content a lot and makes me happy when I see it but can you please change that intro cause it’s a bit cringe af 😭😭kratos deserves a more hyped up intro than that dont u think

You got to stop with this finally revealed title. Its a theory thats it.

Wtf? I'm confused af

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jim carrey did put on the mask

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Had to stop the video a minute in. The guy seems to think the norse mythology in game is a one to one to norse mythology IRL, attempting to make sense of certain things when their two canons are separate. If certain characters and events from IRL my this haven’t been adapted into the GOW version you can just plug in IRL and pretend like it’s GOW fact for the sake of a video

Trans holding the mask trying to help Odin makes me think of the Mask👽🤪

I still think Kratos is weak AF because every time I see him in his rage or Omega form it's doing zero damage or nothing to be excited about I have it powered up to level three and still does nothing to ads bosses or mid bosses even sub boxes very underwhelming it has nothing to do with this video

Does this mean Jesus has a female counterpart?

I really hope God of war has nothing to do with Christian mythology

Thief not theif, but I love your content

It feels like you just make up "plot holes" for the sake of content. However your theories don't seem to make much more sense either.

You keep quoting gnosticism and the demiurge but you fail to address that if this is the case then CHRISTIANITY IS REAL IN THE GOD OF WAR UNIVERSE. You're missing the forest for the trees here mate.