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35:58 - 2054 works fine imo. Deadpool's comment about 50 years in the future seems like he chose a random large number and Cable merely played on that number. If Deadpool dies, let's say in 10 years, Cable's response -"50 years from now you're very dead." - still makes perfect sense.

Awesome that you included Legion and The Gifted on the timeline breakdown, they both normally get snubbed anytime someone discusses the Fox X-Men franchise

Putting the X-Men movies and shows in timeline order? You're a braver man than me haha

6:54-Yeah, X-Men Origins: Wolverine causes multiple issues, but there ARE 3 slight possibilities: 1. Beast had managed to make an updated version of the serum to allow him to walk 2. The Professor X that Young Cyclops sees is an astral projection 3. There have been a handful of times in the 60s comics where Xavier was able to use metal braces on his legs to allow him to walk (60s comic logic)

6:51 I think Xavier’s appearance in Origins could be a mental projection and he’s just chilling in the helicopter

About Blink; in the comics, she’s Bahamian. AKA Caribbean Black. Only in The Gifted and Days of Future Past is she depicted as East Asian. So that is also a suggestion that it takes place in the same timeline.

Honestly, having both Warbird and Blink in both The Gifted and Days of Future Past dealing with the increasing threat of the Sentinel program adds a lot of history to the Future Past versions of those characters. Even if that's the only time we see those actors together.

I also think strykers mystique eyes are that (if we assume she somehow knows that strikers the one who experiments on logan with adamantium) shes there to pose as stryker to claim logan, that way when mystique leaves theyll end up giving his body to the real stryker who will realize he has an opportunity to experiment and thus shes ensuring logan ends up in the hands to end up metal as he should be, kind of like staying 2 moves ahead playing chess making sure the military knows stryker wants that mutant and thus making sure logan lands right in the real strykers lap

I really like your explanation about the stones being different in different universes therefore different rules. It's like a cop out that is backed by the rules of the series.

Cool that members are getting early access now!

20:08-X-Men: Apocalypse kind of fixes this a little bit, in that movie she is rescuing mutants and then once they are safe, leaves to look for more. I think it's plausible that she finds Wolverine in 1973, saves his life and then parts ways later down the road, and by the time we get to X-Men: Apocalypse, Logan has now been recruited by the real Stryker

Great job, as always! Thank you for this early access as well. It's awesome to have them a bit earlier than usual! Speaking of the video itself, I think it all fits very well, so I don't have much to add. The thing I wanted to talk about is that passing comment that you made at around 22:00 on your theory of different Infinity Stones with different rules for different universes. As we said time and time again under many other videos, I totally agree, and I think I might have a new small piece of evidence to confirm it: every time a new universe is created, the six Singularities "break", so they cannot be reused to create a new one! This requires a comprehensive explanation, so sorry in advance for the long comment. You should be used to it by now haha! Right this morning I was rereading the first chapter of the timeline book, about the distant past, and from both that, the Collector explanation in GotG, and the opening of the Eternals movie it's pretty clear that, when a new universe is created, the exact sequence of events is: 1) a Celestial, who for the MCU is Arishem, creates the "first sun", which I believe is a poetic way to reference the Big Bang (it cannot be the actual Sun, because both the timeline book and the opening crawl of Eternals place this "first sun" before the Infinity Stones and the universe itself are even created) 2) from the Big Bang, the six Singularities are created (again, both the opening crawl and the timeline book agree on this point) 3) the universe sparks into existence (as the Collector said in the GotG movie, which is also referenced in the timeline book) 4) the "remnants" of the Singularities after the creation are then forged into "concentrated ingots", aka the Infinity Stones (confirmed again by the Collector and the timeline book). From this sequence, there are two important observations that can be immediately made: A) In order to create the Singularities, and therefore the universe, a Big Bang is needed, and the Big Bang is caused by the actions of a Celestial. This means that every time a Celestial causes a Big Bang, a new set of Singularities is formed. B) (And this is the important one!) After the universe is created, the Singularities seemingly break (I believe that it's likely this breaking of the Singularities that releases the energy needed to actually create the universe), and their "remnants" (to quote the exact word used by the Collector) are what's later reforged into the Infinity Stones. This implies that, after the universe is created, the Singularities are now shattered, making them unusable for a second universe. But we also know that there isn't just one Celestial out there. There's many of them, and new ones are still being born to this day (Tiamut is the best example that we know of). And if all of these Celestials each causes its own Big Bang, then this will cause multiple sets of Singularities to be formed. Then each set of Singularities breaks, therefore creating multiple universes, each with its own set of Infinity Stones, just as you theorized. QED. Theory confirmed haha! Plus, this also naturally explains how is it possible that different sets of Infinity Stones can have different rules: the timeline book says, quote: "[The Celestials] use their ability to manipulate matter and energy to construct suns that make life possible on other worlds" (page 12). The creation of the Big Bang is a direct result of the Celestials' ability to manipulate matter and energy, but it's never explicitely said that there's only one way of doing it. The Celestials are a sentient race, and each Celestial might put their own spin in this process. In other words, this "manipulation" process is not something mechanical that happens every time in the exact same way. It has to be done intentionally by a Celestial, a sentient being who has its own will and desires. This means that they have agency over how the process is conducted, and thus over its outcomes. Probably Arishem likes time travel to work as Hulk explained, and so he manipulated matter and energy so that it works that way, but maybe the Fox Universe was created by a different Celestial, who instead prefers time travel to work in a more Back to the Future kind of way. Both are possible, and it only depends on the specific way in which each Celestial likes to manipulate matter to create its own Big Bangs. What do you think?

Just got into the X-Men movies and series a few weeks ago (after I finished every main MCU project). This really helped me to watch them in the sort of right order and connect all the dots. Thank you!😇

The 2054 date for Cable’s future does not contradict the 50 years line, because if Cable knows Deadpool is dead 36 years in the future, he knows he would have already died 50 years in the future.

40:36 I think the main thing with Logan is that it originally was going to be its own universe because of the giant implications (no more mutants being born after 2004). By the time they started finishing the script for the movie with the continuity, Fox and Mangold probably realized how good the film was. They also knew they could get a X-23 spin-off out of it and such so it became canon to the revised timeline. Hugh was probably right at some point.

20:38-So, slight thing here, Xavier only has the "Welcome back." line to Logan in this context LOGAN: "You did it." PROFESSOR X: "Did what? Logan, don't you have a class to teach?" LOGAN: "A class...to teach?" PROFESSOR X: "History." LOGAN: "History? Actually, I could use some help with that." PROFESSOR X: "Help with what?" LOGAN: "Pretty much everything after 1973. I think the history I know is...a little different." PROFESSOR X: "Welcome back." LOGAN: "It's good to see you again, Charles. It's good to see everyone." PROFESSOR X: "Well, I had a promise to keep. You and I have a lot of catching up to do." LOGAN: "Yeah." PROFESSOR X: "What's the last thing you remember?" LOGAN: "Drowning." So, by Logan bringing up 1973, that's him realizing.

I love the idea of Lorna Dane coming to the MCU with Evan Peters

41:13 Xavier: "[The Spider-Men] are waiting for you at the Statue of Liberty." Logan: "The Statue of Liberty was a long time ag- wait, who the hell are the Spider-Men?!"

I don't take Xaviers "Welcome back" as him seeing the original timeline too I see it as when they were in the 70s he knew that Wolverines consciousness was from the future (our present) and so when that whole crisis/event ended he and the past consciousness of wolverine have lived the 50 years up to now, while wolverines present consciousness just blinked right back to the present so I see his welcome back as more of a "welcome back present consciousness that i havent spoken to in 50 years" hes smart enough to know "this mustve been the day he was sent back to set us on this path and so hes (mentally) back from that journey to the 70s and thus he says welcome back to a friend he hasnt seen in 50 years, as far as his references to the original timeline in logan, I think anything he knows of the original timeline would have 100% come from him reading/viewing logans memories post logans wake up, as i just dont feel it makes sense for Charles to Magically have the memories of a future self that never ends up happening, i will however say maybe in his weakened semi dimentia state in logan hes recalling visions he once read in logans head post DOFP or is even accidentally reading logans memories in those moments presently like the statue of liberty moment

This is really good expcept you're missing a few Deadpool projects. 9 Deadpool shorts, Once Upon a Deadpool, and The 'Pool Log. 1. How Deadpool Spent Halloween 2. The 'Pool Log 3. Deadpool's Empire Magazine Infomercial 4. Deadpool: Touch Yourself Tonight 5. Deadpool: Touch Yourself Tonight; For Her 6.Deadpool: Cat'astrophe Averted 7. Deadpool: No Good Deed 8. Deadpool: Wet on Wet 9. Deadpool 2: Eur Missing a Country 10. Deadpool 2: Don't Skimp on the Powder 11. Once Upon a Deadpool

My headcanon for the Xavier walking and using his powers in flashbacks +Origins but only powers in the not so distant future is A: Hank figured something out with the serum to allow for some power use(remember it was originally made to help *control* his own mutation) and B: Charles eventually built up a resistance/immunity to the serum before the events of the original trilogy

I love this channel and really appreciate the effort you put. So many marvel geeks out there, but not many do (try) to tie things together and explain what’s going in with that level of attention to details. Keep it up man, already my favorite channel ✌🏼

Since Sam Wilson Captain America is said to be making a new avengers team you should do a video on who you think the new team will consist of

Just wanted to put this out there for X-Men Origins: Wolverine; For the end when Professor-X shows up, my head cannon has been that in that moment he is an apparition or psychic projection. We know he can do this, we've seen him do it before. And since he was presumably off this medication in 1979, this works easily. I even rewatched this exact scene to make this assertion and he never physcially interacts with anyone. So I think this works, let me know what you think! I just saw that other people have also considered this in the comments, but I wanted to still add it here.

We really need that, the timelines are so confusing. I already watched multible videos explaining it, yours is the longest, most detailed and most comprehensible!

Another great video! For years and years people have been trying to cram the movies all on one timeline but you did great separating them!

I was just searching for this video two days ago and now it's here! It isn't the first time that a video that I needed has been uploaded to your channel some days later haha. I love this channel so much

11:54-Yes, his twin brother, it was confirmed in the commentary for X-Men: The Last Stand, I believe they talk about it either right before or during the post credit scene

Really appreciate you for this vid man continue making some like this

Charles could be in Cerebro chilling while making everyone see him walking around, or go somewhere with Eric, or appear in front of Raven at the airport, or control an helicopter pilot and make you think its himself. He could even transfer his consciousness to another body (not necessarily his twin's) and make you see him as you remembered him🤷🏽‍♂️

Amazing breakdown. I always had a hard time understanding the whole timeline. But you made it easier to understand ❤

This was a really great detailed breakdown of the xmen timeline cant wait to see how it continues in Deadpool and Wolverine.

Awesome vid, man. Gotta admit, I didn't really like your videos at first, but I've been growing into it, to the point that I don't miss a single one lol Keep it up!

Dude, youre doing the watchers work. Love ya 🤘🏼

The Gifted fits completely. New Mutants would be set in 2026 because of Logan's file, plus Dani can only see memories, not visions of the future, that is established in the movie, another thing is that Dr. Reyes says she went to save them, maybe after the incident of the doctors releasing the children, it makes sense that they now want to experiment on the rejected teenagers. In Legion something curious is that they mention the name change of Mumbai, as you say they always use real historical events to establish the time, so I think it would be connected with the Dark Phoenix event which also occurs in the 90s. I hope you understand what I’m trying to say.

Perfect timing as always. Just about to start watching the Men films in preparation for Deadpool and Wolverine. This will surely help me with watching in order.

I love your videos!!! Love the amount of detail you put in your videos!

Man. You really put in the work on this one. Really great video dude. Totally agree with your take. Everything you said makes perfect sense and clearly cleans up the whole mess. I can now sit down with my Son and watch it in the right order so it'll all make sense to him. Thank you.

How hard would it have been to say Charles was puppeting his own legs with his powers? They literally have both versions of Jean do it to him. 😭 He could’ve stopped doing it because he realized he was living a lie or something dumb.

Hell yes love early access, ive wanted a video like this for ages!!!

Excellent breakdown as always! I always love how deep you go towards proving the rights and wrongs about the various theories and how they line up. These timelines are not always neat, but you seem to break them down in a comprehensible way unlike any other!

Just starting video. This is going to be a good watch. I have no idea how you’re going to straighten all this out.

36:05 I think Cable saying "50 years from now, you're very dead" can indicate that Deadpool died before that time, so Cable is sure that he is "very dead" later on. If Deadpool dies in 2030 for example, he is still dead in 2068 as well. I don't think the dialog means Cable has to be from 2068 necessarily.

I was waiting for this. Addicted to your content. Appreciate all the effort you put into your videos. Lots of love from Pakistan.

For anybody who has seen Legion, even though it isn’t marvel related, Fargo is made by the same showrunner and it is a phenomenal crime anthology

great video 🤙

Wow… that was a fantastic breakdown. You made it so understandable 😭😭😭

About New Mutants. The movie was planned to release in April 2018 so it makes sense that in universe it's February 2017. More than 2020 or 2023.

Something I've just come to accept with these movies is relative canonicity. As it progress we are just seeing a possible outcome of the events of a past movie. With Future Past and Logan for example, the discrepancy between Jackman and Mangold can be explained by thinking that Future Past is canon to Logan, but Logan is not canon to Future Past. It's how I've kinda reconciled the 616 fiasco as well. Theyre two seperate multiverse in which the MCU is in the comics multiverse but the comics are not in the MCU's multiverse, so they can both be 616

Now all we need are Fantastic Four, DaredeviI and Elektra timelines to fully prep to 'Deadpool & Wolverine'.

Note that it was Deadpool who said fifty years. If Cable is from 2054 and Deadpool is dead by then, barring any comic book shenanigans he would still be dead in 2068. So Cable's line works either way, provided Deadpool dies before 2054. Fans are already predicting his death in Secret Wars, in fact.

Well done

32:59 just like DP1 thinking he was going to be a superhero

Even though Deadpool 2 takes place in 2018, you should watch it after Logan (for major spoiler reasons)

Something also to consider that I just mulled over now, I think X-Men (2000) through Origins contain no continuity errors. Similarly First Class through to Phoenix also contain no major continuity errors. Looking at it this way it seems pretty clear that First Class was indeed a soft reboot as originally touted, only referencing a version of the original Trilogy and Origins, but not their exact same continuity.

Ahh I see you answered my New Mutants question from the Multiverse Timeline video here in this video. Lol my bad, saw that video first. 👊😁

Wolverine didn't travel back in time. He phased his mind, his body stayed in the future

I personally place the original X-Men in 1994, and I justify the "Not too distant Future" line as being relative to the flashbacks at the beginning of it and X3. So I choose to place them in 1994 and 1997.

Looking forward to watching this! Wanted to let you know that as of today (I think), X-Men '97 has been added to the MCU Multiverse Saga part of the Marvel heading on Disney+. It's not in the complete timeline so it seems they're cementing X-Men '97 as not Sacred Timeline but definitely as part of the multiverse. Eager to see how the two universes will interact.

X-Men: Apocalypse explicitly states that it's set in 1983 because of the title card at the beginning, which you forgot to mention.

Loved the video, great timeline breakdown. You have a new fan in me. One thing I would say is Cable could be from 2053 because he tells deadpool "your very dead in 50 years" that could mean by 2053 hes already dead, so if you are counting 50 years ahead he would have been dead for a long time. Which is why he says "Very dead". Just a idea

I’ve had thoughts that the method of time travel results in different kinds of time travel rules/outcomes, like the pym particles does the branching, and the way she does it for Wolverine in DoFP(just his consciousness) doesn’t branch, and same with how Cable does it, so in a way hulk could be right, but technically wrong overall, but Dp3 could actually confirm the X-men movies have somehow been branching this whole time so we’ll see.

I was watching Days of Future Past earlier (still am, actually), Magneto is bringing the baseball stadium through the air with him right now), and Hank actually says something that could explain the supposed discrepancy between Days of Future Past and Origins. When he's explaining what happened to Charles, he talks about his oen serum, and that he takes just enough to control his abilities. But then he says that Charles takes more than he needs, implying that in controlled doses, Charles could be able to walk and still retain his powers. And even if that's not actually the case, there's still time from 1973 in the original timeline and when he shows up in Origins. I mean... It's like 6 years, but still.

I apologize for commenting so late. I decided to watch some of the X Men movies after seeing this video. I really like your theory of different time stones causing time travel to work differently. Also, is the X Men 97 animated series part of any of these timelines, or is that its own thing?

Love all your videos! One small thing . When you quote a Marvel TV chief Joseph Loeb regarding the Legion timeline etc, you show a the logo of MTV...Music Television...not Marvel. 😂. Just thought you would like to know

Man really great video. I really loved all the great insight. But before I get into the video itself I want to touch on my thoughts on this being an early release for members. Obviously I missed the early access lol, but even as a member, I really dont think these videos should be given early access to us. When a video is done, I personally believe that everyone should be free to enjoy your content all at the same time. I'm not a big fan of a temporary paywall behind some of your videos. But thats just my 2 cents, im sure other members may feel differently. 1. WOW. You know everyone gives this timeline a hard time (frankly because it's trash, incredibly confusing and full of plot holes) but man I never realized how they had so so many real world connections. This franchise that struggles more with continuity is doing better at relating to the real world then the mcu is now. Thats awesome I'm really glad you touched on that. 2. I was really surprised to hear all the connections in Logan. And while I personally dont believe it I think theres a really strong case to be made that it's actually in the original timeline not the revised one. After all couldn't another name for the program wolverine was in, in the original timeline just be weapon X, and the dude who's dad died was at the power plant? Doesn't matter too much but with all the references to the original timeline and barely one for the new timeline it makes me wonder. 3. Cmon dude, Red Hook being a town that exists (even if its his incident and not the one in dark phoenix), saying "Legion is a part of the X-Men universe" and very frank "Yes, its connected" by the show runner and you still dont think its canon? You choose the one quote that says it's not canon, by Loeb? you minds well choose the Gifted quote that says "its its own universe" at that point lol. There's way more evidence suggesting it is then isnt imo. Plus theres no reason that Professor X couldn't do all that off screen right? I mean again come on the dude infamous for being in a wheelchair can get up and walk around, die and come back but he can't have a kid and join the military off screen? Again I wanna be clear this isnt hate, totally love you dude. and totally respect your beliefs. Just find it personally really odd that you go "heres all the reasons its canon, even with the show runner saying it is" after going "heres how to explain all these plot holes in this whole universe" and then you go "oh this has a plot hole I can't even try to fit it in, and we gotta go by this one specific quote saying its not canon" Love you, love your stuff just found it really odd.

Great job with the timeline! I am trying to map it out myself and noticed the Red Hook easter egg and was going to include it after Dark Phoenix, but since I've only seen Season 1 it's good to know Charles' timeline doesn't add up with the Original or Revised Timelines. Speaking of Charles, the rest of Beast's quote about Charles taking the serum is interesting. He says that Charles takes too much. So if he was at a proper dosage, he could have his powers (probably not the full extent) and walk. So after 1973 in the Original Timeline, he probably realized he needed to cut back and that led to what we saw in Origins and The Last Stand. And then sometime before the first movie he realizes the benefit and need of having full use of his powers and gives up his legs. In 2023 (Original Timeline), Charles says he was a very different man in the 1970s, so he obviously had a lot of natural character growth since then. When you were talking about Dark Phoenix's ending, I thought of a quote I think was said by Simon Kinberg. Basically that a direct sequel would've tied up all the loose ends to explain how Jean was at the end of Days of Future Past. One of the many plans for Dark Phoenix that never happened, but would've done so much good for the timeline. One thing I disagree with is how time travel works. I agree that the Infinity Stones are different in each Parallel Universe like you said. However, I still believe the Fox X-Men Universe branches. In Days of Future Past's ending, the characters all just disappear and seemingly relocate, indicating a shift. Well, that's not really evidence, as that could be visual for both branching and erasing. The real stinger is one you (no offense) looked over. If the Original Timeline is truly erased, how did Deadpool (in Deadpool 2) go back and kill Weapon XI from Origins? That obviously didn't happen in the Revised Timeline, so he must've traveled through branches (like the Avengers did to get back from the branches they made to their original timeline) to get to Origins and back. Just something to point out there. Overall, great job on the video! You gave me some great new perspectives, especially with Legion and The New Mutants' placements. Keep up the good work! 👍

One note on Cable knowing deadpool is dead in 50 years, this wouldn't make it so that cable had to be from exactly 50 years in the future but that sometime within the next 50 years Deadpool dies, if say deadpool were to die in 2034, he could confidently say that deadpool is dead in 2068 without having been from that year.

11:56 WHAT??? Nooo...Ya don't say. The X-Men films are like one of the most carefully crafted well thought out consistent series of events ever. Nah but seriously good on you for trying to untangle this mess. I hadn't seen a good chunk of these films since I was a kid and am catching up for Deadpool and Wolverine. I knew the timeline was funky but DAMN is it genuinely out of wack.

What about Deadpool & Wolverine? I know that they ignored the events from Logan, so I imagine that since it's in the MCU, I imagine that it's in a different timeline.

So in Logan they only believe that there are no new mutants because of the experimentation done on corn that prevents mutants from occurring, however we see that new mutants are actually still being born like in the case of the mutants like Laura in Logan, it is completely possible that new mutants takes place around the same time as logan and they are just not aware of them existing, it's not like professor X has cerebro to detect them.

Maybe the treatment Xavier was taking was similar to Velocity 6 in some Flash stories, where it would have caused him to lose his powers over time but not all at once. Similar as well I guess to how Superman slowly loses his power over time when exposed to red starlight. Ot maybe he built up resistance to the side effect or something idk

Great video as always sir! However, I would argue that the 'not-too distant future' captions are more in reference to the previous scene shown, which in both cases were scenes set in 'the past' (1940s in the first X-Men, and 1996 in The Last Stand)

7:22 I like to think he is weening himself off of the medication. Like Hank says, The Professor is taking too much in '73, specifically using it to blot out his powers. Maybe a lesser dose helps him manage the intrusive nature of his powers while also allowing him partial use of his legs (enough for a short gentle walk but not much more). By 2003 he is making full use of his powers and has accepted his disability.

If we say that Deadpool 2 creates another altered timeline then I thin it makes sense to place logan on time second timeline before 2068 and NOT the news timeline for a few key reasons: -Deadpool begins the movie lamenting the death of wolverine from Logan meaning that even though it takes place before logan Deadpool must understand that they are on the same timeline and therefore he will not team up with Wolverine -The adamantium bullet in Logan presupposes that in their timeline X-Men Origins Wolverine did happen however because DP2 ends with Deadpool killing Ryan Renolds before he can sign on to X-Men Origins then it didn’t happen. -The quote from the Logan creatives about the end of DoFP seems that they wanted to directly follow on from the ending of that movie, however since DoFP happens AFTER 2018 where the bulk of DP2’s timeline changes would have taken place the ending of DoFP is not confirmed yet for the post DP2 timeline. -With Deadpool so heartbroken about the inevitable loss of Logan and it ruining his chances for a team up he would actually have a vested interest in changing the timeline to keep Logan from happening. He has the means, motive, and knowledge to do so. It's just a matter of if he did or resisted temptation but still up in the air. -Though Logan is an INCREDIBLE movie, probably easily in the top 3 greatest solo Hero movies, I don’t really think we need to protect its place in the proper timeline since it’s kind of a miserable end point for so many beloved characters on and off screen so don’t have it on the final timeline ‘cause I don’t want it. As for Legion…idk maybe Deadpool messed with the timeline enough there’s a timeline where it fits perfectly. Also I think the New Mutants can’t take place later in the timeline because Logan’s “no new mutants born” is a bit of a stretch. Logan BELIEVES there were no new mutants born but he’s proven wrong IN THE SAME movie and though I still have yet to see New Mutants it seems the X-Men/Logan wouldn’t have known about them. As for their hopes to join the X-Men though a bunch did die it’s not outright said ALL of them die, a few could have survived and tried to keep the team going, even if not we see characters like X-23 still clinging to the hope the X-Men brought to the world through her comic. Is it really so hard to believe a bunch of teenage mutants might think/hope there would still be X-Men operating in secret out there somewhere?

Also, the events of Logan occur before June 2029. I know this because Logan claims he was initially supposed to buy the Sunseeker in June.

What if 'New Mutants' actually takes place in the 90s? They promoted that movie hard to be on that time, just like 'Black Widow' and 'Captain Marvel', and I believe it fits, X-Men lost Jean to the Phoenix, Xavier and Magneto travel to Europe and Essex Corp is secretly going after mutants before making their own mutants like X-23. I also believe Deadpool movies might take place earlier around 2012 because there's no way 'Deadpool 2' made a dubstep joke after 2014 lol

I think that the war where Striker recruits Wolverine and Saber Tooth was not the Vietnam War in 1973 but the United States invasion of Grenada in 1983. 6 years later is 1989, 15 more years is 2004, which works as the not do distant future from 2000 (and also 2003). The Three Mile Island Nuclear Generating Station was a civilian facility, making it a pour place to hide a secret military facility, however after a melt down no one will go near it, making it a better hiding place, (also, what was depicted in the film was not a meltdown). Wolverine, being in Vietnam in 1973 does not work with him also being in NYC in 1973 in Days of Future Past. Finally, the displays on computers in the film are way too advanced for 1979, but would make a lot more sense for 1989.

Re: The “Stryker” at the end of DoFP, I think it’s explained well in the following movie. In Apocalypse, after she saves Nightcrawler, Mystique doesn’t seem interested in anything beyond that, to paraphrase her, “I saved his life, what he does with it is up to him.” So to me, she impersonated Stryker to pull Logan out of the river, saving him, but then once he was out, she just let him leave on his own. At some point later, Stryker and Weapon X still got their hands on him, a story we’ll likely never get, but it would have happened at some point after early ‘73.

Thank you very much for such a detailed review! I remember so many people referenced Logan as a separate universe at the time of the theatre release and glad to see a picture where it fits pretty much exactly in the post-futurepast timeline as I thought. Also, can Legion be a prequel to X-Men 97? I haven't really watched both shows but it would be fun if there are any connections, even head-canon ones.

The x-men movie timeline to me is very similar to the DC comics timeline. As explained in this video Days Of Future Past changed the timeline dramaticlly, since a lot of the previous movies became non-cannon. DC comics is kinda similar, because with big event maxi series, like Crisis On Infinite Earths, Zero Hour, Infinite Crisis, and Flashpoint, DC's timeline was alterted dramatically with all those events. While a lot of stories remained cannon, other stories were removed from cannon, and sometimes with other events, other stories that were removed from cannon, were made cannon again. Trust me, I'm a DC guy, and this can be confusing at first glance. Heck, DC's timeline changed in the 1950's and there wasn't an event storyline, DC just had to mention it!

Because Origins came out after X1 and X2, I just take the two lines about "15 years ago" as retcons as the two different characters should actually state Origins as "24 years ago". But I'm also a semi-subscriber to the theory that Origins is actually an in-universe movie about the X-Man's past... which is abit out there I know 😂 and does require alot of head canon around certain things but it definitely helps to make the inaccuracies make total sense. Also, the points you made surrounding The New Mutants were very convincing but I still believe it takes place in 2020 due to the fact that in Logan its stated that "no known mutants have been born since 2004" and the youngest member of the new Mutants, Dani, is 16. I have also always felt that because Logan takes place in a different timeline to the OG trilogy doesn't mean the events of those movies still didnt occur, albeit not exactly but essentially similar, which is why they are still able to refer back to these events all the way in 2029. Finally, I do apologise if it seems like alot of my comments are criticising your timeline 😂 I dont mean it to come across that way, it's because I genuinely appreciate the hard work you put into these timelines like I do with mine and I am always curious to see what youd have to say in regards to my head canon

36:39 Oop wait, Y can’t this mean that Deadpool then happens in 2004/3? It would line up with Logan’s quote of no new mutants have been found* (not born), since 2004. & would also give the young 2nd-class/2nd-gen/darkphoenix-team a bit more time to age into their 2023 older looking versions. Not to mention it would even poetically have it so that the New Mutants get introduced after the last time we chronologically get to see the young actors playing the young versions of the 2nd-class/2nd-gen/darkphoenix team Plus that way NewMutants wouldn’t cut in-between Deadpool 1 & 2 as well, (😅less important but still lol) {Also Deadpool having died even earlier in Cable’s 1st future (say maybe in 2030) doesn’t change the fact that Cable can still say he is very much dead 50 years from 2016 or 2003 cuz either way even if Cable hasn’t lived to see past 2054 he can safely assume that if Deadpool for sure died in say 2030, he’s would most likely still be dead by then}

I really cant wait for deadpool 3

Deadpool was just saying 50 years because it's a round number. If it takes place in 2018, then 50 years later IS 2068. But Cable can still be from 2054 and know that Deadpool dies by 2068, if Deadpool dies by 2054. So it works I think.

Excellent breakdown! My only disagreement is that I (having never checked the calendar) would have put New Mutants closer to Logan, maybe around 2027 or 2028 just before the Westchester Incident. I figured that would be far enough along for Dani to see visions of the X-23 project and for them to think they could join the X-Men, although it assumes they never make it to Westchester before Xavier’s meltdown. I also figure that if Fox was still making these, they would have wanted to allow for the New Mutants and Laura’s X-23 mutants to run into each other (maybe with some of the Deadpool cast like Cable, Domino, and Firefist) in a big crossover fight against Essex/Mister Sinister. Still, you make a pretty compelling case for 2017!

This is most excellent! Very well thought out and researched. I'm curious, though, if you include The Gifted in the official timeline, where do you think the X-Men are during this time?? I don't know if they ever explained it in the show. Also, is it possible that Xavier just "mentally projects" himself as walking in X3 & Origins? Perhaps to take away the perceived stigma of being in a wheelchair?

I would love to see you go through all the T.V. Shows and Movies listed on the Marvel Database. Not from a timeline perspective but to react to them. Some of them are INSANE. Like WTF is a Nightman? And there’s random stuff, like an Avengers/Power Rangers show from the 70’s and some random fantasy cartoon from the 80’s. 😂

38:03 And mystique is noticeably absent sure the real world reason is probably just jlaw not being available for such a minor scene but hey it works

Always appreciate your work!! Regarding time travel in Marvel movies, I personally theorize that the mechanics of it being represented differently is because multiple types of travel ARE possible. True Tony, Hulk and others affirm otherwise, but they're simply considering only what they know, Quantum time travel. Outside of Endgame, there are examples of alternate methods, Doctor Strange looped time and also detached from time in the final battle of his first movie; Ms. Marvel closed a predestined, self-fulfilling time travel arc; and Loki S2 showed that actions even extrinsic from time can rewrite a universe. I haven't fine tuned the theory, but that's how I excuse the differences.

X-Men Movie Timeline. The opening scene in X-Men Apocalypse takes place in 3600 BCE which is a millennia before X-Men Origins Wolverine's opening sequence in 1845. In X-Men Apocalypse, we see En Sabah Nur/Apocalypse and his 4 Horse Men, who use their mutant powers in order to save the life of the proclaimed false God, En Sabah Nur/Apocalypse. Wolverine's timeline is like his memories, fragmented. But I guess, if we see the X-Men timeline as parts of Wolverine's memories then everything makes complete sense. Real kudos to you for trying to explain the X-Men timeline as, you have done a fantastic job.

1) When it comes to Charles and the whole walking/powers thing is that I believe there is either a certain point in the medication where he is able to walk but still have his powers but he crosses the line because of all of the loss he had delt with and in the original time line he eventually stopped needing it but took it for certain things like recruiting the group from Origins and Jean in Last stand or Hank just developed a medication that just helps with walking but keeps the powers that he eventually just stops using it, but in the revised timeline he just stops taking the medication all together. 2) For what happened with Logan in the new 1973, maybe because Mystique saw Logan working with her old friends, she decided to save him because not like enemy of my enemy but where she was there friend and he was also their friend then they could be friends, but because his consciousness jumped to the new future, this version of past Logan has no idea who she is and leaves to go back to war before it ends and then whatever version of Origins of this timeline has happens until we see him in 83. 3) the younger cast being the X-Men in Deadpool 2 fits because Charles has not really changed since the 60's lol.

Off topic, but in regards to your MCU timeline image, you need to add a line from Captain Marvel and from The Avengers going into Guardians Of The Galaxy, for Ronan and Thanos respectively. (I don't know if this has been brought up already but I noticed it and thought I'd tell you)

I hope that Paradox and the TVA help at least slightly how this timeline works. Great video as always.

Great video, the FoX-Men universe is a mess, but you made a lot of sense of it. I do think you missed the flashback we see of ancient Egypt that introduces Apocalypse, but I’m pretty sure you covered everything. I think in regards to the legs = no powers thing, it’s very weird, but in my rewatch of the old X-Men cartoon, Xavier lost his powers…and gained back his ability to walk. I don’t know if this is a thing from the comics or what, but I’m guessing in the original timeline he found a way to have both, but his mutation overrode the cure. I will also note that Hulk’s explanation doesn’t seem to account for Kamala’s time travel, Doctor Strange 1’s final battle, Thanos killing Vision, Ant-Man’s aging/de-aging, or the Agents of SHIELD Season 5 stuff, so I just stand by the idea that there’s multiple ways to time travel. I have a feeling that’s how it’s like in the comics too.

Seems interesting video. There aren't any spoilers of DP 3 here, right? I haven't even watched it's trailer....

Doesn’t the Wolverine take place shortly after The Last Stand? I haven’t seen the movie in years but I thought Logan was morning the loss of Jean in the beginning of the movie. Feels like it’s a few years later at most.

Hey I'd like to point out in days of future past Hank says he takes enough serum to keep his powers balanced, meaning his intelligence stays but his feet go. But he says charles uses too much to block out the voices. So if he also stayed balanced like Hank, he could theoretically use his powers and walk. BTW I can't wait to get to the legion portion. I just started watching it.

Days Of Future Past is SO good.... Definitely a top 10 marvel movie for me.