Conner Deppe will agree

I don’t agree ... My ‘71 Dodge Charger R/T is thee most sexiest car out there back in late 70s with 440 block + 440 emblems on raised front hood , , headers , glass packs , , racing wood steering wheel mind you , pistol grip shifter , 4.56 Dana posi rear , plum crazy purple paint & black interior with wood grain on instrument panel , front & back - black spoilers , shark gills on sides of body , chrome Cragers mags , wide 70s up front & wide 60s in back ... When I launch it off the line my car frame would twist because of tons of torque it had .. Having a stock charger is no comparison against a all beef up , upgraded Dodge Charger R/T .. Btw a 70 Plymouth Roadrunner with no front hood just a tunnel ram manifold with 2 - 850 Holley carbs sticking out of engine bay .....took me on down a small stretch of road before we get to city bus in curve...I kick his ass in 3rd gear and it was over quickly, so I shut it down , he yelled can I look at it , so I let him , he said can I drive your car and you drive my car.... I said 👎.. Why? Because I would’ve traded even up for his , a thing of beauty that Plymouth Roadrunner was my gosh!!!

Locus XXX you right 🙂

Still the sexiest ever

1966 Dodge Charger is sexiest

@MetalMastodon probably after the camry was heavily modified by someone

@MetalMastodon then it wasn't a real hellcat or that camry owner breaking some rules cause a stock brand new camry makes no more then 300hp and a hellcat makes 800hp

There's a lot more to drag racing than horsepower

@@woodyofp8574 torque and tires

@Fire&Ice909 i was replying to someone who must have deleted there comments idr what it originally said

dart swinger it is ugly tho

dart swinger Exactly mate.

Agreed

Its mostly the younger generations that don't understand the winged cars at all that think they are ugly. You have to remember that is coming from a generation of car enthusiasts that think Nissan Cubes and Scion XB's are awesome looking cars and actually drive around in those toasters...

@wally walton mate I want disagree I'm 16 and love these cars, but all my friends prefer sports and Supercars and wouldn't give muscle cars a chance. Not sure about rice burners though. I think most of us agree they are ugly. I'm from Australia though so maybe it's different over here. One thing I want to ask though is, is it your understanding that when these things were being produced they were considered to outlandish? because a quick google search says they didn't sell well.

Yeah, that seemed like an odd comment to be made in the video.

It does have more of a sedan look which is why I prefer the challengers instead

my 22 year-old Porsche will go that fast hellcats will go 200😨

@@originalfiremancancelled7303 The Charger HC will top out around 202-204 the Challenger HC is a bit more drag limited and does around 190. The smooth buttress and longer roof line of the Charger HC really do matter in the wind tunnel and on top speed.

@Fuck You Well obviously you are welcome to believe whatever it is you wish. Of course it makes you a moron.. But I'm ok with you being a moron.

The new chargers are at least 1000 lbs heavier too so if you did some mods to the engine you could easily pass a hellczt

@@rageriustheoverlord7086 straight fax

@@rageriustheoverlord7086 If you put an hellcat engine in a Charger Daytona you will have an even better car.

@@TheLeonmafioso Not necessarily.

@@cubcadet122 707 Horsepower from the Hellcat Vs let's say 550HP of Second Gen Hemi stock form, less weight over front wheels (like 10% less) means also better performance. Now, if you uses the RedEye Hellcrate are 807 HP, and if you go extreme with the Hellephant (426CU 1000 HP Aluminium block and Heads) would be mucho powerfull.

yea i agree

yea i agree

yea i agree

Use the link in the description to see the data, like "At 200 km/h (124 mph) our final numbers were 373 lbs of lift on the front end and almost 80 lbs of down force out back".

@@Ziggy_MoonglowThat's great info but why did they stop at 124mph? The Daytona ran 200mph and even when it wasn't running that fast, Nascar speeds were still over 160mph. What does the new Charger and Daytona make at those speeds?

Field Lmao “Audiojungle”

That's standard for marketing films...

You didnt dig the obviously lifted from GTA4 intro music?

Field I

Oh yes. It feels like I'm the only one complaining about heavy-handed audio. When someone's talking, the music shouldn't be the foreground. For anyone that doesn't know, reducing music for voice is called "ducking" and it's standard practice for professional AV work. Most of the music is pretty cheesy too.

Ye, nothing beats the Daytona

catguy4 it's not just the spoiler but the shape of. Front bumpee

It's a wing, FFS!

i thought and i did read somewhere that Chrysler asked to NASA engineers how to improve the Dodge Charger for NASCAR.

The autofocus link in the description is much long and does include some of them

TrebuShade I could swear I’ve seen this before with numbers and as “ stock Dodge Charger “ I find it helpful especially if you’re moding it

So the lesson to be learned is that I need a removable nose cone and wing for long trips in my 67 mustang to save gas

D J no wing for long trips “ other airo parts “ ford did the same things to their platforms in the late 60s

D J I’ve been thinking of adding a Front splitter for better ground effects and more cooling capacity by forcing air in things like brake ducting or heat exchangers. Hopefully not making it ugly or giving up something I want like to much ground clearance ( bottoming out on every speed bumps ) or worst adding extra bits that are useless and don’t have a performance gain

ASTEROIDALAIN yeah they did a really good job with the challengers throw back look, too bad they didn't do it with the charger too

The Challenger is super unaerodynamic for a modern car though, they should go with a style inspired by the old car but fix the aerodynamics to modern standards. I really think someone should do a Daytona version of the modern Challenger, it would be much better. Or they just Lower/round of the front/Bonet by making the head lights into wide and low rectangles while keeping the styling of the current lights( look at the Bugatti chiron headlights), making the front less flat, "rounding" the sides(by the headlights) by giving a outward angle to the front while keeping the center fairly flat. Keeping a lot of angles and aggression in the styling and doing that with the car would make it good and not have the aerodynamics of a brick, while looking mean as hell.

ASTEROIDALAIN when you truly think about sells today and economy , they will most likely lose alot of money from doing that , it just ain't all about being car guy or just wanting a cruising car , that's why they have two separate options the challenger and the charger for people , who want options . Furthermore , they really not going back to their classic design because it's cause too much Drag and poor fuel economy . P.S , the comment I made is not to offend nobody , I just expressing my opinion , but but I do really like a concept though .

Martin Hübinette there is a company out there making new superbirds and daytonas.

Martin Hübinette Then the Challenger would look wayyy too modern.

Lane Boy dodge is the pinnacle of American muscle!

Lane Boy Amen brother MOPAR or No car.

Randy Pataska What do you mean sorry for me.

nikko stereo integrated stereo amp and around and around

if u got 150-200k lol, those things are on crazy markups now.

I would rather, personally take the Superbird over the Daytona. The way the cone and spoiler look on the Super just looks better to me.

FYI, the link in the additional Info. is incorrect. The Hellcat's Official top speed was 204.55mph...not the articles claimed 206mph. Actually top speed run video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p52VjcKi0arKZGQ.html Another issue with this test is that the 69 Daytona didn't have the hemi...which was about 95lbs heavier than the 440..Not sure if it had different springs(of course the race car did) but the weight would have lessened the front end lift/angle. Hemi car would have less front end lift regardless. Crazy thing is that the Older = wider & Much higher ground clearance 69 Daytona STILL has less drag, " ...despite the 45 years - and differences in scientific understanding - separating the two vehicles." from the article.

That's right. Not many people also know that those big vertical fins of the rear spoiler are also helping to stabilize the car at high speeds, reducing butt shake.

Yes, we adjusted the rear wing's angle on the Daytona to get the best reading. The lift on the front end is essentially the same between the two cars; and the Hellcat had only 20 lbs less downforce over the rear than the Daytona. The full data was posted in the accompanying Autofocus.ca article; the readings were left out of the video simply for time. (It wasn't my call as producer, I would've done the video very differently, but that's how things worked out.) And, yes, unfortunately the AF article is down, now.

And a Dart vs Demon

Also, Superbee vs Roadrunner

Or Elliott's 87/88 T-bird. That's what Im so curious about

Chrysler did do a 1969 Coronet 3/8 scale test and that data is available at the AeroWarriors "Chrysler Document Archive". You'll have to comb through all the pages to find it and once you do, you can verify my numbers. 481 Front and -151 Rear at 190 MPH. 734# of drag at 180 MPH.

@@LtJackboot Coronet is a Superbee. Road Runner was extensively tested. 440 Front and -35 Rear lift with 1.5 degrees of rake at 190 MPH. 704# of drag at 180 MPH.

TheMotoGamer Buddy Baker was the first to hit 200mph and it was a Dodge Daytona. No NASCAR driver went 200 mph in a NASCAR event until 1982. It was at Talladega that Benny Parsons went 200.176 mph qualifying lap for the Winston 500. Don't think petty ever went 200 in the superbird.

TheMotoGamer Chrysler corporation owned dodge and Plymouth so the superbird was based on the success of the Daytona. I also noticed the superbird picture lol.

i don't know if he went 200mph but his superbird's name was the 200mph superbird

and also i commented the first one because i hear so many times people say that richard petty's car was a dodge charger not a superbird

bro its the same fucking thing dipshit

Dain Bramage yeah unfortunately they won't because they sell alot of them as cop cars

The Challenger is already a cut down Charger, so what would be the point?. That's why it's so much heavier than Camaro and Mustang.

They did... in 2008. Its called Challenger. That’s today’s economics.

brycmttw, yeah, the old Charger and Challenger were on completely separate platforms. The current ones share the same.

I agree, making a 4-door Charger is disrespectful to the car's history. I'm not sure what's worse though, that or 4 cylinder engines in the new Camaro and Mustangs smh

ANYTHING 23 is right? Chargers are hella sexy some people are just blind.

The vertical wing components on the Superbird are indeed raked back further than they are on the Daytona; this was because the styling department got a hold of the Plymouth and wanted to make it look better, but they had no say in designing the Dodge. Not sure of the aero effect, but packaged with the other changes between the two cars it might be measurable.

@@nickmaronese No. It's because the angled stabilizing was more aerodynamic, less drag. The nose of the Superbird was not as aero as the Daytona, while the vertical stabilizers on the Superbird were more aero than the Daytona. All of that information and more is available from the Chrysler document archive at aerowarriors dot com. Everyone on this thread should read up. As far as downforce, both cars had 0 at the front and 0 to 250 at the rear, at 190 MPH.

@@Ziggy_Moonglow Fair enough! It'd been a while (three years) since I'd read through that research, I was likely thinking of the nose and not the stabilizers. Thanks for the correction!

It would probably break 230mph, lol...

Don't forget the race Daytonas sat 6" lower to the ground which is why those useless air scoops were on the front fenders of the street Daytonas - the undersides were cut out to help clearance the tires from the lowered suspension in race trim

rollers are connected

Citation needed.

Touge Warrior connected rollers

The 68 charger actually had a lot of lift at the back end that would lift up the rear at high speed because of the tunnel window. The front end on the 68's just created a lot of wind resistance because of the sunken grille. In 69 they made the charger 500 with the coronet flush grille and the flush rear window, fastback style to start off the aero wars with Ford. The 66 and 67 fastback chargers looked aerodynamic but actually had a higher drag than the notch back Dodges and Plymouths because of the large surface area and no rear wing. The 66 and 67 fastback would lift the rear at high speeds too, more than the notch backs. It has to do with the huge fastback rear acting as a big one piece inverted foil that acts as a wing and provides lift...upward...and lifting the rear enough to unload the suspension slightly instead of squatting down. Made for a very unsettling ride at high speeds. Many fastback cars after 68 have a lip at the rear, or a ductail extension or a wing to counteract that lift. Still though, nothing looks better than the coke bottle shape of the 68-70 chargers. They really did look fast just standing still.

Kholiq Deliasgarin Radyantho Yes

YES! right as the audio track says "and is able to attain the same speeds as the Daytona..." while showing the Charger R/T's speedo reading about 200KPH!!

It can be changed with the push of a button on the steering wheel.

Onlywarrior565 link?

SotoPlays it was an ad :|

gaaaaaaayyy

From what little I know, NASCAR needs certain sales from whatever model is being used. So for example, if the Charger was to be reused as the race machine from Chrysler, they need to sell like 39,000 units annually. Probably more than that, but that at least gives an example.

Me

nascar runs custom made race cars they haven't had a detroit car on the track in 20 years

Nascar didn't kick dodge out. The few teams that were running dodge (Penske, and Richard Petty motorsports) got a bunch of factory support from Ford that dodge wasn't giving them. So the teams just stopped using dodge.

MM..you dumbass Sounds like you know nothing about stock cars and NASCAR...Dodge is out of NASCAR because Ford bought them out of NASCAR by luring Penske away from Dodge with more money trying to buy a championship. Yeah you are right Dodge was down to 2 cars in the whole field but they won the fucking championship with ONLY 2 cars in 2012 the last year they were in. Dodge tried to find a team worthy to carry the championship flag but there were none available so rather than let some woodchuck team run the Dodge name into the ground they just retired with the championship....something Ford can't even buy for almost 20 years. Fiat has done more for Dodge than anyone else ever did since before Lee Iacocca bought Chrysler in the 80's. Can you say Scat Pak, Hellcat, Demon??? Dodge is advertised the American performance car company with the Demon being the quickest production car in the world ever. All true. And here is where your ignorance really shines...what in God's name did you mean by"actual race cars with chassis that work"??? WTF do you think those guys are driving go karts with bodies??? My God man you sound dumber than a box of rocks. The biggest reason NASCAR is so awful now is the cars are all exactly the same except for the stickers on the bodies...all hand built by the best race car builders in the world. You must not have a clue what kind of money a competitive NASCAR team has to spend. Racing was WAY more entertaining when the cars were built by the car companies and the race car teams got them from factories and turned them into race cars b y using blood, sweat, tears and a little ingenuity to make them fast...

ALPHA PLAYZZ yes

the rollers are all connected

The Chargers come both with rwd and awd

Shaggy Mason not the hellcat

Shaggy Mason well apparently the new one is nvm

nate meehan aside from that

bump

yea, the new challenger is really the one to carry the look over.

Leaping Weasel They made both in 1970 the Plymouth just sold more

Dodge was the Charger Daytona. Plymouth had the Superbird.

i own a superbird. thank you

Dodge Only produced THE Daytona charger wing car in 1969. people have cobbled together wing car copies out of every kind of cars imaginable But the factory only made them in 1969 as the Daytona Charger (Dodge) and 1970 as the superbird (Plymouth).

at 0.50 they say "in may 1970 it broke the record..." and show a picture of a SUPERBIRD. in 1969 Daytona went 199, breaking the record. in 1970 the record was broken by the SUPERBIRD (at 221) not the daytona.