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- In this video we're going to talk about a home theater project that has the wrong type, amount and position of acoustic treatment. Watch the video to find out more!
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@jeffgrayson7639
@jeffgrayson7639 Жыл бұрын
Dennis you are amazing, I have learned so much from you.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@jean-baptiste9230
@jean-baptiste9230 8 ай бұрын
Educational thank you!
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@professorh8398
@professorh8398 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@rvaillant
@rvaillant 6 ай бұрын
Would not an open door, or open space to the rest of the house serve as bass management? I know it messes with interior room reflections, but relieving the room of bass energy that way should act the same, or better than a closed room with bass treatment, no? Thanks
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 6 ай бұрын
Open areas can act as pressure relief "valves". However, the openings must be uniform and be on both sides of the room to avoid phase
@sean_heisler
@sean_heisler Жыл бұрын
Dennis, question about diffusion on the front wall. You mentioned one dimension is best for two channel. I thought you have mentioned before that having two dimensions on the front wall is good where you might have vertical quadratics for most coverage and then horizontal quadratics up high on the wall? Is it best just to keep it one dimension and do all vertical quadratic diffusion on the front wall? Thanks!
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields Жыл бұрын
One dimensional diffusion for front and rear walls with two channel playback if you have the distance to support one dimension of diffusion. If you do not have the distance, then you have 2-D as an option. However, 2-D will not add any spatiality like 1-D. 1-D will also add sepration to instruments and vocals. Background information such from singers will be more defined. You use 2 - D for non localization of boundary surfaces in a small mix or listening room where distances will not allow for 1-D. 2-D is used to minimize the impact of reflections on boundary surfaces. 1-D will add sepeartion and resolution increases.
@sean_heisler
@sean_heisler Жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields Thanks for taking the time to reply, I appreciate it! Got it, really good to know and helps me. Like another commenter said, the amount of knowledge I have gained from you over the years is unmeasurable. Thank you!
@marksimpson4783
@marksimpson4783 Жыл бұрын
Expensive looking room, knowing the dimensions, would you suggest a location for the subs for our information please.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields Жыл бұрын
A low frequency producing device and its location depends on many factors that are too vast to simplify. You must look at room volume, pressure levels used with chosen usage, room dimenions, driver diameter and count, room treatment rate and level along with surface area coverages of said treatment. just to name a few.
@__the_ufo__8462
@__the_ufo__8462 10 ай бұрын
Main problem is room dimensions are too small IMHO a length of 36ft, width of 23ft and ceiling height of 17ft has less problematic modes along with needing at least 15 percent absorption and 20 percent diffusion of total room surface area of the 6 surfaces. And for such thin material it needs an airgap separation from the wall to improve performance. Subwoofers I'd place nearfield to the listening position to reduce room modes as its never good to place Subwoofers in a corner.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 10 ай бұрын
Most small rooms require over 50% surface area requirements on each of the 4 walls and ceiling areas to manage unwanted low frequency modes. Air gaps are not effective given the space they require. There are much better ways to obtain noise transmiion results without wasting air gap spaces. The location of subs is based upon room dimensions. Be very careful making generalizations about positioning without known dimensions, pressure levels, and usages.
@Oneness100
@Oneness100 8 ай бұрын
The two black panels in either side of the 2D Skyline diffusor are those polygonal "diffusors" (sound redirectors).
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 ай бұрын
This begs the question, why would you mix sound redirection technology with diffusion technology.
@Oneness100
@Oneness100 8 ай бұрын
@@AcousticFields That's why I made the comment, so you can discuss the problem with doing that. I had to look closely to see that they were those redirectors rather than just flat absorption panels. I see people using different types of what they THINK are diffusors and it just makes me scratch my head as to why would they even think that would be a good idea. The most common mistakes I see are people are buying treatment from other companies and they seem to be only treating Oblique modes above 80hz based on the type, location and amount of treatment being deployed.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 ай бұрын
@@Oneness100 I believe in this room it was more form over function.
@Oneness100
@Oneness100 8 ай бұрын
@@AcousticFields I'm sure that was a big part of it. To me, it's not esthetically pleasing, others might think it's cool. Most of the product reviewers and even many of the mfg's have horrible listening rooms judging from the type, amount and placement they use. I saw one video of a well known product reviewer showing his listening room. I was mortified at his choices in room treatment, it just looked like a mess. I would think that you could use it as an example of good instincts, wrong treatment videos. Maybe you can do more of those types of videos. If you want a link to a couple of examples, I can post them. 🙂
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields 8 ай бұрын
@@Oneness100 It does not matter what it looks like during the testing phase in room tuning. You can always make it pretty after you make it sound right. This picture illustartes form but no substance. Form plus substance equals esscence. This is all form with no substance. I can look at the pic and tell you why he is not happy with his room sound. I don't need to be in the room.
@wilddestroyer8927
@wilddestroyer8927 Жыл бұрын
I have a low ceiling, should I get clouds or defusers to put on my ceiling
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields Жыл бұрын
You must first address the low frequencies produced by the smaller height distance.
@betterplaylist4481
@betterplaylist4481 Жыл бұрын
How do u calc the distance of these 3 reflection points?
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields Жыл бұрын
Its difficult. To avoid complexity, place your sidewall treatment starting at 12" behind the speakers to 12" behind the listening position all down the sidewalls.
@JoseGarcia-yu9nd
@JoseGarcia-yu9nd Жыл бұрын
​@@AcousticFields is there any recommendation for distance between floor to unit / ceiling to unit? Thanks
@djhmax09
@djhmax09 Жыл бұрын
I bought some of those panels before I started watching your videos. It's a good thing I didn't go all in because I regret it. They're better than no treatment but the compromise is still large enough that it's not worth it
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields Жыл бұрын
Building insulation panels can not absorb low frequencies. The laws of physics prevent this material type from performing at the requirements.This is one of the myths of this business which is perpertuated by the companies that produce and sell this material type.
@djhmax09
@djhmax09 Жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields Yup, now I know. A lesson learned!
@Mo-qe4rf
@Mo-qe4rf Жыл бұрын
wrong treatment, wrong source. not enough knowledge. emotions is one.for good. can I sound proof my whole townhouse for playbacks, jams, movie enjoyment. and forth....
@ELOHIMGIBOR
@ELOHIMGIBOR Жыл бұрын
Myths, depends on what you want to do. Different projects different set ups
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields Жыл бұрын
Different projects do require different set ups. However, the physics of absorption and diffusion treatment remains constant for each usage..
@ELOHIMGIBOR
@ELOHIMGIBOR Жыл бұрын
@@AcousticFields that's evident. It would be interesting to watch a critical review on contemporary music (20's), with a particular focus on how bad sounds and on how poorly is recorded. Thank you 👍
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic Жыл бұрын
Just complaining... not offereing solutions.
@AcousticFields
@AcousticFields Жыл бұрын
We offer many solutions to issues. Take some time and watch those solutions. In order to apply a solution, you must know what not to do.
@philippemorceau3094
@philippemorceau3094 Жыл бұрын
First: If you spend some time on Dennis’ website you will see not only solutions but information on the physics involved and why they offer specific solutions. Second: In this video Dennis DOES talk about solutions in contrast to what the customer has done on their own. Third: It feels like you yourself are just complaining … not offering solutions.
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