Across Scotland onboard Britain's MOST iconic train

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Simply Railway

Simply Railway

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Hi folks,
Welcome to this new trip report with ScotRail, an operator I haven't reviewed so far! To be honest I did not expect to ride an HST after my video with LNER but here we are... Plus, we got to see Scotland's most famous bridges and incredible landscape.
- TRIP INFORMATION -
RECORDED OCTOBER 2021
Railroad company: ScotRail
Train type: Class 43 and MK3 or HST
From: Edinburgh Waverley to Aberdeen
Time: 2h26
Price: 51 GBP
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00:00 : Intro
01:48 : Edinburgh Waverley
02:25 : The mighty HST
03:19 : Departure from Edinburgh
03:25 : Seat check
04:07 : Forth Bridge
05:27 : Classic Scottish weather
05:49 : Tay Bridge
06:39 : Dundee
06:56 : Northern sea
07:13 : Mid roll
07:32 : Southbound HST
08:00 : Smooth MK3
08:12 : Beautiful Scotland
08:46 : Montrose
09:03 : Walkthrough
11:00 : Toilets Time
11:38 : Sunset
12:02 : Arrival and thoughts
12:26 : Outro

Пікірлер: 232
@frglee
@frglee Жыл бұрын
A beautiful run-through on a beautiful train! Scotrail really got it right refurbishing these classic trains inside and out for one of the prestige Scottish services.
@amenerstugard1894
@amenerstugard1894 Жыл бұрын
It is SUCH A SHAME that the UK railways are SO INSANELY EXPENSIVE to use - any class anywhere. My full family just loves trains, but we are only using buses OR OUR OWN CARS! Such a shame. But thank you for the excellent video! Appreciated.
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk Жыл бұрын
So glad Scotrail haven't ruined the Mk3 coaches with concrete seats. I'm envious. The poor old HST down here in the SouthWest got refurbished with terrible hard seating, it's a crime against such fine coaches.
@agent_605
@agent_605 Жыл бұрын
they literally use the same seats on ScotRail and GWR
@gftyhify
@gftyhify Жыл бұрын
That really seems to be a things with refurbishing trains lately. Let’s all give them hard seats regardless of wether it’s commuter or long distance.
@markoobid2005
@markoobid2005 Жыл бұрын
LOL, those are the same seats (Grammer IC3000) on both GWR and Scotrail. And the same as on Railjet.
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk Жыл бұрын
@@agent_605 Scotrail may have specified different padding though.
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk Жыл бұрын
@@markoobid2005 I'd bet you that the seat cushions can be specified by the customer..
@anthonyholroyd5359
@anthonyholroyd5359 Жыл бұрын
I will say since this was filmed, all ScotRail HSTs have been retrofitted with 4 additional bicycle spaces to bring the total per set to 6.
@ADAMEDWARDS17
@ADAMEDWARDS17 Жыл бұрын
Coach C. It can even take a tandem bicycle.
@mehornyasfk
@mehornyasfk Жыл бұрын
How very nice of them to align the seats with the windows. Some rail companies do really want to screw people up with windowless seats (looking at you, DB).
@samwebster7985
@samwebster7985 Жыл бұрын
Happy to say the cafe is back open and ScotRail have added more bike storage!!
@davidawalkerjr2905
@davidawalkerjr2905 Жыл бұрын
The Storage area in the Power Cars was originally for the Guard (US=Conductor), with storage for Baggage and Parcels. Due to the Noise from the Prime Movers (Engines) the Guards complained, and eventually a Trailer, Guard, Second (TGS) Coach was added to the end of the consist and the Guard's Compartment went mostly unused. If you look at the first three original Liveries on the Class 43 Power Cars the Gray Window Band started at the Guard's Compartment, indicating Occupied Space, very clever design if you ask me.
@Clivestravelandtrains
@Clivestravelandtrains Жыл бұрын
Isn't it grey?
@scottishtrainspotter7209
@scottishtrainspotter7209 Жыл бұрын
Love the Edinburgh to Aberdeen line, and the HST trains owned by Scotrail. 5:27 That's so Scotland for you when it comes to the weather, nice weather and then a wee bit of rain😂
@irenejohnston6802
@irenejohnston6802 Жыл бұрын
Weather is just geography 🕊️
@sirgermanm78
@sirgermanm78 Жыл бұрын
How wonderful are those scottish railways!👍🏾
@paolomargini7904
@paolomargini7904 Жыл бұрын
Did you notice the notices officially applied on the not for public use doors of each ScotRail coach? One said - Stay out. On board whisky distillery Another - Stay out. Bagpipe practice room
@osasunaitor
@osasunaitor Жыл бұрын
Nice touch of humour :D I also noticed that some inscriptions were translated to Scottish Gaelic, which is a very nice detail in my opinion. _ScotRail - Rèile Na h-Alba_ sounds much more fascinating
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 Жыл бұрын
They should add: Stay out. Bar fight training room.
@paolomargini7904
@paolomargini7904 Жыл бұрын
@@marcleslac2413 Right, but to be believable should be applied to a door with a lot of room behind, as to say the whole coach.
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 Жыл бұрын
@@paolomargini7904 ikr
@mikedyble3648
@mikedyble3648 Жыл бұрын
The Inter City 125 was a game changer for British Rail when introduced during the mid to late 70s. Originally they were a stop gap until the APT was brought into service, but the APT never got off the ground, and the Inter City 125 became the main stay of services on non electrified routes. As an example one of my regular journeys, York to London, was half an hour quicker with the introduction of the 125. 2h 20 - 30m down to 1h 50m to 2h depending on stops. The fact that they are still in front line service after over 40 years shows that the design was good. There were teething troubles, but these were ironed out in the first few years. The compartment behind the engine was originally used for parcels and bulky luggage, and used by the guard for the first few years, but was I gather noisy. In my opinion the Mk3 is the best riding carriage in the UK, even on indifferent track, the Mk4s that followed were significantly poorer.
@NickyMitchell85
@NickyMitchell85 2 ай бұрын
I think 💭 that ABERDEEN is such a *CRIMINALLY underrated* city 🏙️ in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿-it’s just plain SWEET and BEAUTIFUL 🤩 left, right and center. I think 💭 it deserves to be as big as MANCHESTER or even *LONDON.*
@thomascook578
@thomascook578 Жыл бұрын
The bike storage is being upgraded, some sets have 6 now, with the other 4 being behind the 2 hanging racks. The cafe bar was closed at covid, and most staff let go, seemingly being relaunched in 23, the space behind the cabs can't be used, for now, due to the fire suppressant system.
@JohnSmith-zx3ch
@JohnSmith-zx3ch 3 ай бұрын
It's not due to the fire suppressant system - they've had that system for many years now. The area can be used for luggage easily, the reason it isn't is because when they were introduced, nobody wanted liability for the loading or unloading (Station side or train crew side).
@philipjamesparsons
@philipjamesparsons Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Scotland, by rail is great. Do consider exploring Wales. My tip is to buy a Ffestiniog Round Robin ticket. Start in Shrewsbury. The ticket allows you to take a long circular route that combines coast, countryside and even a steam train ride. It's an amazing journey and a great rail day out.
@Blackburnian737
@Blackburnian737 Жыл бұрын
Thats sounds like a nice ticket, I didn;t realize you could do that. I was on the Ffestiniog this summer, It is pretty neat.
@williamnorris2449
@williamnorris2449 Жыл бұрын
I think the big storage areas would originally have been used to transport parcels and other goods, as well as passenger luggage. LNER used to check bags in here on busy trains.
@LucaPasini2
@LucaPasini2 Жыл бұрын
I can confirm that: when I travelled on a Virgin Train HST from King's Cross to Edinburgh in 2016 our luggage was taken on the platform in London, put a sticker on it with our destination and we found it unloaded on the platform in Edinburgh. The train was bound to Aberdeen.
@harrischalk
@harrischalk Жыл бұрын
They were designed originally as guard compartments (a place for the conductor to stay) however it was extremely loud and uncomfortable so it got used as storage etc.
@lesliegprice6652
@lesliegprice6652 Жыл бұрын
Originally it was the train guards area and for bicycles and bulky luggage etc
@lesliegprice6652
@lesliegprice6652 Жыл бұрын
@@harrischalk yes that's right !
@tng2057
@tng2057 Жыл бұрын
Class 43 / HST / 125, the quiet British hero. Carrying passengers in style for over 40 years. 🚂
@lewis72
@lewis72 Жыл бұрын
Back in the '90s I used to regularly travel in these from Paddington to Reading. The thrum of the Valenta V12s would fill Paddington to the point that you just got used to it as a background sound. I was at Paddington last year for the first time since then and it was eerily quiet without them. Certainly miss the old V12s screaming their turbos when they left the station. They got a lot quieter when the engines were replaced with MTUs.
@scottyerkes1867
@scottyerkes1867 Жыл бұрын
Smooth, fast ride. Beautiful scenery and impressive bridges. Perhaps the different train lengths is anticipated passengers Thanks Thibault for a great video😀💚
@sueKay
@sueKay Жыл бұрын
I've only been on these trains a couple of times but I did not think they were from the 70s! I don't know why they vary the number of carriages, but I know that Scotrail's twitter team are really good, and if you tweet them they'll probably try to find out if they don't already know! The most bike-friendly service in Scotland is the Glasgow - Oban train which often has a special bike carriage attached along with some premium seating. Half the carriage is just bike racks, and it also has fantastic custom livery too. It's also a really good journey to do, and it's usually two trains in one with the other half going up to Fort William and Mallaig. They used to make everyone disembark for coupling and decoupling the trains but they don't bother anymore. Also, fun fact, but as of this year Scotland now has 8 cities...so I wonder if they'll have to do a rebrand.
@Blackburnian737
@Blackburnian737 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered were they ran those converted 153's. Been on the glasgow to mallaig but didn't notice or they didn't have it that day (it was back in covid). What city got added?
@williamsanger3868
@williamsanger3868 Жыл бұрын
Thank You for the beautiful video. The HST inter7city trains were configured with 4 carriages, but recently they have proven to be popular that Scotrail introduced 5 carriages on some trains. this year I boarded a 4 carriage HST from Perth to Glasgow and it was choc-a bloc. so a 5 carriage was definitely required.
@Cobra_Railways
@Cobra_Railways Жыл бұрын
it was always intended to lengthen 17 or the 26 (now 25) sets to 5 car, however there have been many faults reported with the 5th coach due to them being refurbed at a different time, so scotrail are thinking of scrapping the 5th coach in all sets
@thomascook578
@thomascook578 Жыл бұрын
At least you weren't crushed onto a 2car 158
@Blackburnian737
@Blackburnian737 Жыл бұрын
Yeah hopefully they go to five- Luckily I was there in covid so a lot of the trains were pretty empty. Except when they ran a 170 instead or a 158 where it should have been a 170. When I was in the England and Wales this summer trains were stuffed.
@rezaalan3991
@rezaalan3991 Жыл бұрын
Great trip,on a legendary train with great scenery of Scotland landscape.
@timnewman1172
@timnewman1172 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad train, but gorgeous scenery... thanks for sharing Thibault!!!
@FU-wd9sl
@FU-wd9sl Жыл бұрын
Ein sehr schönes Land mit sehr freundlichen Menschen.
@becconvideo
@becconvideo Жыл бұрын
und die Bahn fährt :-)
@nevillesevicke-jones1227
@nevillesevicke-jones1227 Жыл бұрын
so auch bei uns in neuseeland :-)
@BLACKSTA361
@BLACKSTA361 Жыл бұрын
Glasgow ist eine Top stadt Kann man Mit Deutschen und Englischen städten nicht vergleichen
@FU-wd9sl
@FU-wd9sl Жыл бұрын
@@BLACKSTA361 Die Schotten sind halt echte Schwaben.
@Cal_lum
@Cal_lum 10 ай бұрын
@@BLACKSTA361yeah Glasgow is terrible, basically the same as most other industrial cities in the UK
@emmanuelphilippart4615
@emmanuelphilippart4615 Жыл бұрын
Très beau reportage, ça donne envie!!❤
@manmeetsinghmahajan6183
@manmeetsinghmahajan6183 Жыл бұрын
Amazing 👏
@farihaofficial992
@farihaofficial992 Жыл бұрын
Bro keep it up i love your videos
@chuckmorrison7085
@chuckmorrison7085 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to riding this train when we visit my father's birthplace, Aberdeen.👍🇨🇦🤠
@richardvoogd3012
@richardvoogd3012 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Although I got to see the Forth bridge on a visit in 1971, I haven't been across it in person.
@peterharrison6696
@peterharrison6696 Жыл бұрын
A superb journey on a magnificent train. The first class area is very much as created by GWR with new carpet and the cafe area which never seems to be in use. Just to prove that the Scots have a sense of humour one door was marked “Keep Out. Onboard Whisky distillery” and another “Stay Out. Bagpipe Practice Room”. There may well be others.
@anthonywarrener1881
@anthonywarrener1881 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for an excellent video. The Scotrail HSTs have been refurbished to a very high standard. Only a few have 5 cars, with most of the fleet having just 4. All HSTs running in the U.K which includes Cross Country Trains and GWR have sliding entrance doors controlled by the Guard. It is unfortunate that the Scottish Government has ordered Scotrail not to serve alcohol on its trains, though some trolley service appears on certain trains. It is well worth laying the. 1st Class upgrade too ! Many thanks.
@christill
@christill Жыл бұрын
I will admit that the HST has a certain charm to it. But at the same time, far more of the UK rail network should have been electrified long before now, including probably this line.
@SteamboatWilley
@SteamboatWilley Жыл бұрын
I agree with your point about electrification. Thankfully Scotland is getting on with it, with all the Glasgow-Edinburgh routes now done, as well as the lines to Stirling, Dunblane and Alloa, and Glasgow to East Kilbride is currently in progress.
@dgattenb
@dgattenb Жыл бұрын
Bad weather is just the wrong type of clothing ....I used to go from KX to aberdeen allot in the 90s .. HST all the way .. awsome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@davidaarthur
@davidaarthur Жыл бұрын
I rode these a few times immediately before the refurbishment - and I can tell you, it's amazing what they've done with them! The views at golden hour are beautiful too.
@Benjamin0c
@Benjamin0c Жыл бұрын
Magnifique paysages ❤
@nevillesevicke-jones1227
@nevillesevicke-jones1227 Жыл бұрын
Certes... pas mal.... dis-je en nouvelle-zélande
@lesliewentworth9678
@lesliewentworth9678 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed to ride. Ridden that line quite a few times. Have friends in Tayport. We get off either in Dundee or Leuchars. Playing this video in Melbourne Australia.
@kereta58
@kereta58 Жыл бұрын
Good job.👍👍🙋‍♂🤩😍
@johnalder6028
@johnalder6028 Жыл бұрын
Very nice. Greetings from Port Saint Lucie Florida !
@gftyhify
@gftyhify Жыл бұрын
I last rode on these trains in April 2022. The cafe was still closed at the time but there was a catering trolley onboard
@robertomeda999
@robertomeda999 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video man, anyway I think some are longer ando others are shorter bc of the number of ppl the train has to carry around. Good job anyway!
@ImpureForce
@ImpureForce Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! I'm hoping to take Caledonian sleeper soon. (BTW I think you mixed up the currency conversion in this video £59 is definitely not €51)
@neilgill5553
@neilgill5553 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. Love a HST set, shame about losing the slam doors but I guess they just weren’t compatible with DDA requirements. With regards to turning on the tap in the loo of the MK3, the button used to be located on the floor, maybe that’s still the case?
@AllThingsRail
@AllThingsRail 6 ай бұрын
Amazing train to travel on.
@peterdnreynolds777
@peterdnreynolds777 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful scenery, great vlog, wish these mighty trains were still in operation with her instead of the new trains with the hard seats on them
@flyhigh6088
@flyhigh6088 Жыл бұрын
This reportage awakens wistful travel memories of an elderly continental European: 1976, London-Cambridge trip, old coaches. Some had separate luggage compartments. My suitcase with material for a 3month-stay, unsuspectingly placed there, was not stolen. (Also remembered from that trip: In Victoria Station I had to make a phone call to announce my arrival; only in the 4th cabin did I get through. In the others the whole apparatus had been torn out, the cable ripped out, the coin inlet screwed up or the microphone unscrewed.) 1979, Southend-London commuter train after a long flight: The train had barely started when I urgently needed to urinate. Ancient compartment carriages - I was locked in my compartment. Finally, alone in the compartment, I had no choice but to open the door and to pee out of the moving train. Only afterwards did I spot the power rail on the side... 1986, journey Bath-London, for the first (and so far only) time in the HST. This time our luggage (including all photos of our multi-week bike trip) was stolen from the luggage bays. ... and now I see that these trains are still in service and, after refurbishment, up to date. The then struggling British industry was still capable of first-class products. (However: The Raleigh bike I then bought out of respect for it‘s reputation quickly turned out to be an unstable pile of rust).
@Trainman10715
@Trainman10715 Жыл бұрын
you cant have seen a powered rail on a train from southend to london, that line is electrified at 25 KV AC with over head wires all the way
@naoisecooke6079
@naoisecooke6079 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I love Scotland and the HST’s and what Scotrail have done with them! Any plans to come across the channel to Ireland soon??? We have some great train to review!
@timnewman1172
@timnewman1172 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see that!
@SteamboatWilley
@SteamboatWilley Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I would definitely like to see a review of the Belfast-Dublin "Enterprise".
@buzzukfiftythree
@buzzukfiftythree Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. I haven't ridden a Scotrail HST yet. We've done the journey between Waverley and Broughty Ferry (my partner's home town, first station after Dundee) a couple of times but on the far less comfortable three-car Class 170 multiple units. I'd certainly much rather do the Edinburgh-Aberdeen on an HST than an LNER Azuma.
@villejag5963
@villejag5963 Жыл бұрын
I think the currency exchange is wrong! £58 is equal to 66 euro/dollar, not 51!
@marklee1194
@marklee1194 Жыл бұрын
Great camera work here.
@JansArchiveActual
@JansArchiveActual 10 ай бұрын
"Britain's MOST iconic train" Flying Scotsman and Mallard: Are we a joke to you?
@Martindyna
@Martindyna Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable video. Please note that the maximum line speed in general on Scotrail is 100 mph (160 km/h). I understood the Inter7City HSTs are limited in general to 100 mph regardless of line speed due to having only 4 cars (which limits the available brake force) 2:25, I guess that this may be relaxed for 5 cars where line speed allows, I'm not sure. The main refurbishments for Inter7City were the slam doors being retofitted to Sliding type and the original `dump on the tracks' toilets being replaced by modern vacuum operated toilets with effluent retention tanks (whch the Australian XPT, a relative of the IC125 (power cars based on the Class 43), had from day one btw).
@TripsonBudget
@TripsonBudget Жыл бұрын
Classic train, amazing scenary. What could you want more? :D I really enjoyed this trip report :)
@pritamkoli
@pritamkoli Жыл бұрын
Five star coverage
@theBusManiac
@theBusManiac Жыл бұрын
You can just about make out some bridge abutments from the original bridge 06:22 alongside the current one. You can see it more when the tides out.
@Atlantjan
@Atlantjan Жыл бұрын
The storage compartment was included because of derailments, because in that case the lighter cab car would detail first and pretty significantly in comparison to other cars. As such it was left empty in order to prevent deaths
@Blackburnian737
@Blackburnian737 Жыл бұрын
Scotrail doesn't have the newest stock, apart from the Hitachi 385's that run Edinburgh-Glasgow, but most of them were refurbished well and quite comfortable compared to some of the other British trains. The scenery is great to. They were also pretty reliable in my experience, except for the strikes. I'm interested to see how they do in the coming years.
@AndrewG1989
@AndrewG1989 Жыл бұрын
I do hope that ScotRail will still keep the “Inter7City” HSTs as they do look really amazing and ScotRail have done a great job looking after them.
@s125ish
@s125ish Жыл бұрын
They are getting withdrawn
@Clivestravelandtrains
@Clivestravelandtrains Жыл бұрын
They are expensive to maintain, and have poor availability. ScotRail built a new maintenance depot for them near where I live (Lenzie), presumably because the existing depots couldn't cope. I'm making the most of them while they are still around as they are a joy to ride on. Better, now that they have six bike spaces instead of two (long story behind that).
@Trainman10715
@Trainman10715 Жыл бұрын
@@Clivestravelandtrains i doubt theyre expensive to maintain, spare parts are abundent and theyre very simple and easy things to maintain. theres really no excuse for them having poor availability, the GWR HSTs were phenominally reliable. i presume its due to lack of expertise in maintaining them up in scotland whereas all the GWR depots had 40 years of experience in maintaining them. still pretty poor though, its not like HSTs are new to most of the lines theyre serving in scotland
@Clivestravelandtrains
@Clivestravelandtrains Жыл бұрын
@@Trainman10715 People in England blaming people in Scotland for having a lack of expertise is very common unfortunately. It's not so much the spare parts, it's the labour cost of maintenance, plus downtime. Older trains - like older cars - need more maintencance. There's a lot of comment about this on the rail foum website. I normally run my car for 10 years - I know from experience that after that time it is more often off the road and costing me more to maintain. That's normal with the ageing process. Yesterday I was at Lenzie station watching trains, and two Glasgow-Aberdeen runs normally HST were covered by Turbostars. If you watch my film on here about Dalnaspidal you will see me express disappointment at seeing only one HST during a day spent in that area.
@Trainman10715
@Trainman10715 Жыл бұрын
@@Clivestravelandtrains its got naught to do with whos scottish and whos english and everything to do with the fact that the GWR depots had 40+ years of expirience with them and therefore will have more expertise in maintaining them than the scottrail depots as a matter of fact, its the only explanation as to why trains that were phenominally reliable with GWR are now underperforming with a differnt operator. some people will try to make a political issue out of everything, its very common unfortunatly the labour and cost of maintainence were lower with with GWRs hsts than their current IETs, so theres no reason that the maitainence and labour be any more expensive in scotland, theyre very reliable machines when used properly. their downtime was also very small with GWR, their powercars were doing something like 13000 miles between major failures in 2019, compare that the the 2500 miles between failures that the new northern class 195s were getting in 2019. theres no reason the HSTs should do any less miles between breakdowns in scotland. cars and trains are not comparible, normaly with trains (so long as spare parts are still abundant) older trains tend to be cheaper and easier to maintain than newer ones and they end up being cheaper to operate, this is due to a number of reasons. this is also why its taken so long to withdraw a lot of BR kit, its also why BR used trains for 40 years before replacing them, back before leasing was a thing and they owned all their trains it was cheaper to keep old trains going than to buy new. rail forum sites aught to know this really, BR era trains with their good build quality, simplicity, and lack of digital stuff to go wrong, only become expensive to maintain once pools of spares run dry cars are different as theyre only really designed to last around 5 years (or till whenever the warranty runs out) as that forces you to buy a new car so its in the manufacturers best interest. all the BR trains however were designed and built to stringent BR specifications and so they were build with BRs best interests in mind (a lot of BR kit was outright built by BR too) and BRs best interest were to build them to last, not for them to only last for a few years like cars. admitadly these standards have waivered a bit with post privatization trains and, with leasing, they are now moving to a model more similar to cars where theyre built to the manufacturers specs, so of course they will be designed to go obscolete after a certain anount of time, about 20 years, as its in the manufactures best interests. it is a shame that scotrail arent taking care of their HSTs, if they took care of them like GWR did/are still currently doing then they wouldnt have a problem. while the HSTs are reliable and resiliant things and can take quite a hammering before showing problems, they will still require some degree of care given to them. it is also possible that the modifcations they recieved before being introduced by scottrail were bodged and dont work properly, again its a shame to ruin what was very reliable kit before
@nevillesevicke-jones1227
@nevillesevicke-jones1227 Жыл бұрын
The WRL--Wairarapa Line-- runs 100km from Wellington,, through the built up 2 km wide Hutt Valley, climb up to the 8.5 km Rimutaka Tunnel and down again to the Wairarapa Plain and on to Masterton town.--- 3 business trains each morning & evening,, with a consist of 6--9 beautifully refurbished Mk 2 ex BR stock. They run very smoothly,, but north of the tunnel where speeds get back to.... max 80 km/hr the state of the single track adds a little rustic roughness in patches. The SE carriages have excellent lighting on two level plus personal lighting, floor level power points for every passenger, Tables !! and now re upholstered in attractive bright blue fabric, not true moquette.The 100 km takes 95 mins if on not slowed by track work so you have time to relax and enjoy the lovely country landscape north of the tunnel. Now on 3'6" gauge it does the job perfectly...but No Coffee Machine... I thought 22$ ( 11 pounds) was bad enough for 100 km.... but a real steal compared with the price you paid for much the same level of comfort. Merci beaucoup de votre reportage:-)
@chrisfleming4756
@chrisfleming4756 Жыл бұрын
I took the azuma first class to aberdeen and it was the worst train journey ever ...i took std class HST Scotrail home and it was better than azuma 1st class ...the ride quality on the HST mk3 seta are amazing .... and your 4 car and 5 car is purely peak time and off peak time travel ...only thing that lets scotrail hst down is lack of catering .....try the glasgow QS to inverness the scenery is amazing ...or do the journey from glasgow QS to Mallaig (harry potter train route) .... good video matey
@Abnerbandanovotempoinscrito1mi
@Abnerbandanovotempoinscrito1mi Жыл бұрын
Boa tarde simply lindo trem boa viagem ai esse trem do reino único mas bonito
@nevillesevicke-jones1227
@nevillesevicke-jones1227 Жыл бұрын
sim...concordo com vc,,, aqui na nova zelânda
@cestmoi1262
@cestmoi1262 Жыл бұрын
Instead of empty seats the occupancy looked very positive. Nice!c
@OtterBops
@OtterBops Жыл бұрын
The HST's are great trains, it's a shame you never got to ride the East Midlands Rail HST's before they were taken out of service, they were the only ones to still have the original 1970's seating, which oddly was actually far far nicer than the seating on most of the 2000's era refurbishments. The 70's seats had huge tick cushions and were very comfortable and had much bigger seat pitches and tray tables. Original SNCF Corail carriages always reminded me of the East Mids HSTs, it felt like both had the same approach of putting passenger comfort first. Unfortunately the refurbs most operators have done on HST's seemed more interested in just squeezing in an extra 4 or 5 rows of seats, and the less said about the terrible seats on the new class 800's the better!
@osasunaitor
@osasunaitor Жыл бұрын
I rode a class 800 of GWR from London to Bristol last week for the first time, and oh my goodness... The worst seat I've ever been in, by far! I couldn't even find a comfortable position to take a nap despite being exhausted at the time. Even local city buses have way better seats than those infamous 800s! Thankfully these trains are fast and the ride was very short.
@Danse_Macabre_125
@Danse_Macabre_125 11 ай бұрын
9:27 think it's for different services, with the 5 coach ones running the longer services. (Inherited fleet was 54 powercars + 121 coaches, originally 17x 5 coach + 9x 4 coach, now theres only 8 four coach ones due to the Stonehaven derailment)
@JohnSmith-zx3ch
@JohnSmith-zx3ch 3 ай бұрын
It's not so much for longer services, the sets work primarily the hourly Edinburgh / Glasgow - Aberdeen services, and the less frequent Edinburgh / Glasgow - Inverness services. Oh, and some Aberdeen - Inverness services. The five car sets are generally kept to Edinburgh / Glasgow to Aberdeen, I don't think any are diagrammed to Inverness.
@Danse_Macabre_125
@Danse_Macabre_125 3 ай бұрын
@JohnSmith-zx3ch You'd be correct, don't think I knew as much back then so made that assumption
@timmethy
@timmethy Жыл бұрын
I learned recently that the Firth of Forth bridge was built excessively strong after the previous bridge, designed by a well respected engineer, had a catastrophic collapse when a train went over it, causing many deaths.
@AML2000
@AML2000 Жыл бұрын
It was the Tay bridge that collapsed not the Forth bridge.
@timmethy
@timmethy Жыл бұрын
@@AML2000 Yes I realized that after I wrote that. The Forth bridge was built after the Tay Bridge collapse. The nearby Tay bridge was a girder bridge. As a result it was decided to redesign the Forth bridge as a super strong cantilever bridge.
@dblissmn
@dblissmn Жыл бұрын
The original standard configuration on the HST was eight cars -- five second, a buffet/diner, and two first. I think the compartment in the locomotive was originally for things like express parcels but it would be a perfect bike space today.
@Danse_Macabre_125
@Danse_Macabre_125 11 ай бұрын
It was 7 or 8 coaches (depending on region) and originally they had two buffets. Compartments in the powercars were for the guard before the TGS (2nd class coach with a guard space) was made due to noise complaints
@dblissmn
@dblissmn 8 ай бұрын
@@Danse_Macabre_125 I certainly don't remember being on an HST with two buffet cars. Maybe that was on other routes besides what I used.
@Danse_Macabre_125
@Danse_Macabre_125 8 ай бұрын
@dblissmn Both WR and ER had them SUPER early in their life, by the 80s I'd be willing to bet they all had one
@dblissmn
@dblissmn 8 ай бұрын
@@Danse_Macabre_125 With a total of 117 HST-specific buffet and kitchen cars of various kinds and 608 HST-specific trailer firsts and seconds in BR's order by the time the HST delivery was complete, that would have been highly unlikely. Certainly the ECML services I used in and out of Leeds were 2F, 1 buffet, 5S or similar. But I should point out, I never used the HST prior to the mid 1980s, and in looking up consists in response to your comment it appears that the use of both a kitchen and a buffet car was quite common early on but rare indeed after the mid 1980s.
@centredoorplugsthornton4112
@centredoorplugsthornton4112 Жыл бұрын
58 pounds vs 51 Euros or dollars means the pound is worth less?
@agent_605
@agent_605 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the numbers were mixed up!
@Jamesified740
@Jamesified740 Жыл бұрын
Down here across the GwR routes, I haven’t seen one since they went out of service!
@s125ish
@s125ish Жыл бұрын
Gwr have castle sets operating from Penzance to Cardiff
@Jamesified740
@Jamesified740 Жыл бұрын
@@s125ish Well then that’s way far from old Thatcham and Newbury.
@NivvyLynxy
@NivvyLynxy Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see old rolling stock still running
@gregrudd6983
@gregrudd6983 Жыл бұрын
With the Scotrail HST sets now at 4-5 cars their performance on grades and acceleration out of curves would be closer to the Australian XPT.
@peterryan917
@peterryan917 Жыл бұрын
A nice video paying proper homage to the queen of the tracks. But don't take 5.5 miles an hour off her world record... Great to know we can still go on another journey on these HST trains if we go to Caledonia and a few other places.
@BIGV710
@BIGV710 Жыл бұрын
its the north sea not northen sea/ that part was the guards van at the back of the hst mainly used for mail and parcels but not used any more
@dminalba
@dminalba Жыл бұрын
There’s even a poem about the Tay Bridge disaster written in 1880 by William Topaz McGonagall who was recognised as the worst poet in history
@il_dalla
@il_dalla Жыл бұрын
9:00 Wasn't it supposed to be the guard's compartment in the early years of the HST services?
@thomascook578
@thomascook578 Жыл бұрын
The van got removed at refurbishment, and replaced with a horrible wee cupboard bedudevthe cafe bar
@ametrinemoon
@ametrinemoon Жыл бұрын
My local station, Aberdeen. What did you think of Aberdeen?
@kevinellis8869
@kevinellis8869 Жыл бұрын
Spent a week in Scotland in the summer using a Spirit of Scotland Rail pass, sadly it was when ScotRail were on a reduced timetable so never got to travel on the HSTs, they were mainly in the depot :(
@Blackburnian737
@Blackburnian737 Жыл бұрын
Even when they did run a full schedule in covid it they weren't that common unless you were going on the highland main line at a peak time. Did you get a chance to go on the West highland line?
@kevinellis8869
@kevinellis8869 Жыл бұрын
@@Blackburnian737 Sadly no, a trip to Oban was scuppered by a cancelled afternoon return train. We did accomplish the main purpose of the visit though - to visit the four heritage lines (Bo'ness, Strathspey, Keith and Caledonian).
@silvianbauer1979
@silvianbauer1979 Жыл бұрын
Hoffe mache sie auch den Metronom noch.
@HSTHoward
@HSTHoward Жыл бұрын
148.5mph was the speed record set by an HST.
@Trainman10715
@Trainman10715 Жыл бұрын
2:42 148 MPH is the HST speed record, 143 MPH was the prototypes record
@s125ish
@s125ish Жыл бұрын
Some sets are in the process of being lengthened to five cars . You must of got one of the first to be done if this was 2021.
@valaky
@valaky Жыл бұрын
I think the currency conversion is incorrect at 1:28
@simonsv9449
@simonsv9449 Жыл бұрын
I think ScotRail is the only operator not planning to replace the HST’s.
@DavidWood2
@DavidWood2 Жыл бұрын
GWR has announced that they are retiring its HSTs by the end of this year (2023). CrossCountry is only using its HSTs for a limited number of services between Plymouth and Leeds or Plymouth and Edinburgh. Once GWR ends HST operations, CrossCountry may well lose access to HST maintenance facilities at GWR's Laira depot, so might be forced to retire its HST fleet. ScotRail may well be the only operator still running HSTs after the end of 2023.
@beachnmountains
@beachnmountains Жыл бұрын
Can you do Japanese rails someday?
@heasydragon
@heasydragon Жыл бұрын
They may very well have to change the branding from Inter7City to Inter8City now we've got eight rather than seven cities...
@markdavid7013
@markdavid7013 Жыл бұрын
Are there plans to electrify this route? Isn't the UK slowly electrifying it's network?
@s125ish
@s125ish Жыл бұрын
Yes there is . Will take a while
@adrianavivas5825
@adrianavivas5825 Жыл бұрын
Did you see Jamie Fraser on the train.
@flarklar2371
@flarklar2371 Жыл бұрын
What is the ramp at 1:55 for?
@Dunkcanio
@Dunkcanio Жыл бұрын
The Waverley used two ramps for vehicles to access and egress the station. All manners of vehicles used to drive in to the station, from private cars and taxis and vans for newspaper trains. Mail too even further back. The south ramp shown was the exit ramp, the North ramp (currently being the one used for deliveries to the station), was the entrance. The taxi rank was where the extended platforms 5&6 are now, with the Motorail facility and car park were there at the far end.
@flarklar2371
@flarklar2371 Жыл бұрын
@@Dunkcanio Cool, thanks!
@CaptainsChannel58
@CaptainsChannel58 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think I could be on a train full of people taking that loud!
@polishstick0609
@polishstick0609 Жыл бұрын
10:30 wow, chad class (what is wrong with me?!)
@douglasstocks9698
@douglasstocks9698 Жыл бұрын
Edinburgh Waverley the only station to be named after a book.
@Drago1995
@Drago1995 Жыл бұрын
while i was watching this on a Diesel Train xD
@EGPFAviation
@EGPFAviation Жыл бұрын
And just who took the thumbnail?
@michaelrmurphy2734
@michaelrmurphy2734 Жыл бұрын
What is the food service like? Can you get coffee or snacks onboard? Or beer or wine?
@SimplyRailway
@SimplyRailway Жыл бұрын
As said in the video it was closed ;)
@s125ish
@s125ish Жыл бұрын
Trolley should be back but the buffet was hardly used before covid
@kingofaxolotls6653
@kingofaxolotls6653 Жыл бұрын
9:03 It was meant to be the guard area but it was too noisy right next to the engine!
@TheOracle65
@TheOracle65 Жыл бұрын
Not surprised, the original Paxman Valenta engine was an absolute screamer under full power! Apart from one museum power car set, all the current HST’s use the more efficient and quieter MTU V16 4000 power units.
@Leo_125.
@Leo_125. 6 күн бұрын
7:36 20 in 20 days lol
@Seagull81006
@Seagull81006 Жыл бұрын
Id love to see a review on first class on these. Also, shouldnt scotrail now name these Inter8city considering there are 8 scottish cities now
@agent_605
@agent_605 Жыл бұрын
Well, the Inter7City service doesn’t serve Dunfermline, Scotland’s 8th city, at least not in regular service so the Inter7City name still works
@Dunkcanio
@Dunkcanio Жыл бұрын
@@agent_605 Until May 2022 there was one set used for the Cardenden commuter diagram in the morning, and another in the evening. Dunfermline was still a town then though!
@johnburke1317
@johnburke1317 Жыл бұрын
The train seats are very small.
@venkatramanmanikandan4995
@venkatramanmanikandan4995 Жыл бұрын
Why is UK still depending on diesel engines ????
@agent_605
@agent_605 Жыл бұрын
Because the Government have consistently failed to invest in our railways, including electrification
@Trainman10715
@Trainman10715 9 ай бұрын
because we use diesels away from the wires, just like every other country
@Trainman10715
@Trainman10715 9 ай бұрын
@@agent_605 apart from our railway budget being the largest per passenger mile in europe, its a simple case of its too expensive and causes too much hassle to do large scale electrification, we will never have a fully electrified network
@agent_605
@agent_605 9 ай бұрын
@@Trainman10715 our budget being so high is simply an indication that we are incredibly wasteful and inefficient.
@jonhartley
@jonhartley Жыл бұрын
A word of warning for the 'chunkier' passenger - the toilet doors are a tad tight! Livery wonderful, 2nd class seats poor, First Class wonderful.
@AnnabelSmyth
@AnnabelSmyth Жыл бұрын
I think you've got your currency conversion wrong - £58 is €66 or $65.
@Shuttletrain
@Shuttletrain Жыл бұрын
I thought Britain was renationalising its passenger trains?
@agent_605
@agent_605 Жыл бұрын
Not properly. Great British Railways was proposed to make the system more uniform, but was not a complete nationalisation and now looks set to be binned off. Quite a few individual operators are now publicly owned however, with ScotRail being owned by the Scottish Government since April
@budapestkeletistationvoices
@budapestkeletistationvoices Жыл бұрын
Extortionate price
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