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Three Critical Qualities of a Decent Holster | Active Self Protection Extra

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Active Self Protection Extra

Active Self Protection Extra

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In today’s ASP Extra lesson, we look at the three critical qualities of a decent holster. I dig into my personal box of shame to show you several of the crappy holsters I have used over the years and why they fail. If it doesn’t have all three, it is NOT a decent holster and you should not use it!
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@mezajarjarbinks5180
@mezajarjarbinks5180 6 жыл бұрын
Funny story for you, John. At the start of my CCW journey I stuffed my brand new SIG P238 (.380 cal.) into a "Sticky" holster. Then I stuffed it into the 6 o'clock position, inside my belt. It was so comfortable that I forgot about it. As you warned what could happen, I went to the toilet, and the gun and holster both hit the water before my butt touched the cold seat!!! Lesson learned. Ha! Ha! Ha! (Thankfully, this happened at home.) John, I give praise to God for your ministry. He has truly blessed you with wisdom and the passion to share it with us. Chuck
@ThePNWRiderWA
@ThePNWRiderWA 6 жыл бұрын
Meza JarJarBinks your. Not the only one LOL. I use the sticky holster now in vehicles between the driver seat and console.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks Chuck! Thank the Lord it was at home and you didn't have to fish that gun out of a public toilet!
@aholegunner
@aholegunner 6 жыл бұрын
Or a porta potty. 😂
@GaveMeGrace1
@GaveMeGrace1 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! That may just answer my Sticky Holster question!
@shaunjmorris
@shaunjmorris 4 жыл бұрын
Thx for the chuckle Chuck!
@iancornell141
@iancornell141 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone who has carried for years has a box of shame like that. Oh uncle mike...
@ThatGuy-dn5ie
@ThatGuy-dn5ie 6 жыл бұрын
Ian Cornell - I second that
@scruggs6633
@scruggs6633 6 жыл бұрын
Buy once cry once
@jawalove465
@jawalove465 6 жыл бұрын
Why anyone would ever think a $5 holster is good, I will never understand.
@schuncke
@schuncke 4 жыл бұрын
so far I’ve been pretty good. Ive bought 1 belly band ive used like twice . Paid $40 for it an so far thats all ive wasted . Use BlueLine LLC Holsters with Claw attachment . They are about $65 and well worth it. Thank goodness I research now before I buy anything .
@musclesmouse
@musclesmouse 4 жыл бұрын
I bought some uncle mike because super discount. I sent them back.
@thelefthandedshooter5760
@thelefthandedshooter5760 6 жыл бұрын
John, if you know it’s safe then I believe you. Safety nazis don’t realize that prior to filming you took safety precautions so you could film. Safety is important but I’m honestly not worried about you shooting me through the screen.
@jimmorrison306
@jimmorrison306 5 жыл бұрын
John, I agree and wonder how much screen time is lost to excessive safety checks.
@n.h6001
@n.h6001 4 жыл бұрын
This should have way more thumbs up
@kagethedemonslayer
@kagethedemonslayer 4 жыл бұрын
Fair but I think it does set a great example for viewers who may be new to handling firearms to always be cognizant of where they’re pointing the weapon
@anthonyalcaraz610
@anthonyalcaraz610 4 жыл бұрын
@@kagethedemonslayer THANK YOU... AND THAT IS WHY HE IS A GUN SAFETY INSTRUCTOR 💯💯
@couldyou4745
@couldyou4745 Жыл бұрын
@@kagethedemonslayer maybe wait until you're old enough to carry a gun before you criticize this guy. He definitely knows better than you.
@ModernMiner4
@ModernMiner4 6 жыл бұрын
What I love about videos like this is they go into the little details of carry that can often be overlooked. Thank you for what you do. Great stuff!
@SNBoomer4ever
@SNBoomer4ever 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did this video, there are sooooooooooooo many holsters on the market. Thank you!
@mrwashur1991
@mrwashur1991 3 жыл бұрын
So many bad holsters*
@TheRedEleven
@TheRedEleven 6 жыл бұрын
Good tests but I would add one thing. When you do the "shake test", the holster needs to retain the gun WITH a full magazine and one in the pipe...because realistic, right? Great video as always.
@J-Rod91
@J-Rod91 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s just a bit too much danger though to get a point across. Maybe if he loaded it with EMPTY rounds. By that I mean rounds with no powder! However I’m not sure if even the firing cap going off would be enough to push the round out even a little. If so there is still a risk of jamming up your barrel. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@williambrowning4842
@williambrowning4842 6 жыл бұрын
Leave it to a preacher to do a 3 point sermon.
@thebeanymac
@thebeanymac 3 жыл бұрын
@@phprofYT To be sure, to be sure, to be sure.
@My_Toy_Soldiers
@My_Toy_Soldiers 3 жыл бұрын
I dont even live in the usa, i live in england - ive never seen a real life gun other than very rare occasions a poilce officer carrying one. And yet i just cant help but be mesmerised by this guy 😂
@sdroache851
@sdroache851 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to advice from people like you, I don't have a box of shame! 😄
@alphaomega8373
@alphaomega8373 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John for giving a hoot and using your energy to help us!
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@joshb4577
@joshb4577 6 жыл бұрын
alot of people start with #1 comfort #2 concealability then move onto your 3 ! hence the reason this is a great and very needed video .. thanks for taking the time John!!
@NikkyElso
@NikkyElso 4 жыл бұрын
There is something to be said about comfort being important though. If it's uncomfortable to carry then you're more likely to make an excuse to not carry "oh I'm just taking out the trash" the BAM pitbull running straight for you. I would argue that comfort and concealability is just as important as covering the trigger guard and retention but comfort and concealment are going to be determined on your situation alone while retention amd covering the trigger guard are pretty universal.
@tom_olofsson
@tom_olofsson 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, my name is Tom and I have a box of shame.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom. You're welcome here.
@tom_olofsson
@tom_olofsson 6 жыл бұрын
Active Self Protection Extra Thanks brother. I have a big box of crappy holsters and other useless junk.
@johnwilburn
@johnwilburn 6 жыл бұрын
We all do. Fortunately, the next generation seems to be doing better, holster-wise.
@Wowthatsfail
@Wowthatsfail 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom
@guapo492
@guapo492 3 жыл бұрын
You're in a safe place Tom. Welcome.
@jawalove465
@jawalove465 6 жыл бұрын
3 things a holster has to have -Hold your gun -hold it Securely but not so tight you have to fight it when drawing. - not be made of cloth
@nomad155
@nomad155 3 жыл бұрын
The unsung Hero
@nerdyhustle
@nerdyhustle 6 жыл бұрын
I keep my handgun in my beard.
@FNG_Star
@FNG_Star 6 жыл бұрын
Santa is that you?
@ibthumper2
@ibthumper2 6 жыл бұрын
Prison purse carry, is the only way to go.
@philpeterson7182
@philpeterson7182 6 жыл бұрын
Beard carry is for hair trigger guns
@JackRockBLC
@JackRockBLC 6 жыл бұрын
That's why I'm growing my beard out. I carry a PPQ, so I need a slightly larger beard to carry it.
@timothycook3566
@timothycook3566 4 жыл бұрын
I carry a bomb wrapped under my shamagh
@cabeasley1
@cabeasley1 6 жыл бұрын
This is great advice! If only I had watched this prior to filling my box of shame!
@SGBass
@SGBass 6 жыл бұрын
I used to carry my Sig in an Uncle Mike's Duty Holster. The reason I traded it for a Safariland was that no matter how many hours I spent in training, I could not reliably release the level 3 trigger guard lock every time. Good video John.
@michaelcrisp2239
@michaelcrisp2239 4 жыл бұрын
This demonstration saved me from a crappy holster. Thank you. I am new at this holster thing.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@johnking7454
@johnking7454 2 жыл бұрын
If you need to go with a belly band, there IS an excellent option available: STRAPT-TAC Belly Band Holster. It can be used with Any IWB Kydex Gun Holster. It incorporates a piece of belt material inside the pocket that you clip your preferred IWB Kydex holster to (I use one from Vedder that meets all of your requirements.
@AnthonyFrisone
@AnthonyFrisone 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you I actually learned a lot this video. I thought my holster was good I would tell people my pocket holster is wonderful. Yesterday morning in my office I go in my pocket and pullout my holster and I notice it does not fully cover the trigger area I noticed that my finger can go in Without much effort. Besides that once I live in a state that I am legally allowed to carry I will be sure to reference back to this video before I purchase another's holster. It's ridiculous that in New York State we are not allowed to protect ourselveswith a firearm is outside of our home I guess some rules are meant to be broken
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
Get a good holster! :)
@justcallmejay8170
@justcallmejay8170 6 жыл бұрын
Couple rules i go by. 1 never have a holster that is made of a fabric including leather. They expand where items can get into it like a coin which could get by the trigger. 2 it has to be a hardened plastic, carbon fiber or whatever kind of harded material you see fit. Last it has to be made specifically for that firearm. I know it cost more but I'd rather spend extra for a fitted holster that won't allow room for items to slip into it with your gun then to pay alot extra for medical bills or with your life because of an accidental discharge. Take it how you want.
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree, I have a leather holster that was made for my specific model pistol that fits tight enough that if something were to get into it, it would also get into a plastic or carbon fiber holster. It is very thick leather and is still very stiff after using it for about fourteen years though not every day until a couple years ago.
@bitfinesse
@bitfinesse 4 жыл бұрын
You absolutely murdered this topic. I tip my hat to you, good sir 🎩
@JestersGame
@JestersGame 6 жыл бұрын
i have recently started making holsters. i love all of the points that you have covered in this video as all of my holsters conform to these ideals. its one of the reasons why i started making my own. one more thing you should consider is also covering the mag release so that it can not be actuated. i feel like having your mag fall out of your pistol would be a horrible thing to have happen because you bumped into your counter leaving you house hours before. especially for that 10-15% of people that don't carry with one in the pipe. id love to make and send you a holster with your logo and have you give me a fair shake down one day! i love what your doing keep it up!
@cheeko_914
@cheeko_914 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think of that. What is your business name? I'm looking to buy my first holster
@cagymccorgeson4289
@cagymccorgeson4289 6 жыл бұрын
Johns box of shame = my box of educational dos and donts! Thank you John!
@thatguywiththeface1741
@thatguywiththeface1741 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see mine made the cut at 14:25. R&R makes pretty good holsters, and they make them for just about every gun/light combo.
@caiogpg
@caiogpg 6 жыл бұрын
Well, Mr. John, I clicked "Like", and indeed I did. But I am still struggling with the fact that have to let go of my King Tuck... And that's why, among other reasons, I am fond of you. You show me things which are better for me, standing a point based on reason, even when I don't like or disagree with them. Thanks so much for both channels.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Means a lot.
@justinofboulder
@justinofboulder 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I have probably gone though 20 holsters through out the years....a frustrating learning process......but having a system that really works well is definitely worth it.....
@JohnSmith-bt9bo
@JohnSmith-bt9bo 6 жыл бұрын
Hey John could you do a video on pre attack ques?
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea John! Thanks!
@XxAeroxXable
@XxAeroxXable 6 жыл бұрын
Active Self Protection Extra looking forward for the video
@cominroitover80
@cominroitover80 6 жыл бұрын
would love a video on that. It's something I often look for when walking down the street at night.
@brandon152lee
@brandon152lee 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, this would be a really great topic for an ASP video!!!
@GaveMeGrace1
@GaveMeGrace1 6 жыл бұрын
John Lovell does one and a succinct presentation on active awareness.
@irishkeif7791
@irishkeif7791 3 жыл бұрын
It's possible that NOT EVEN ONE holster in the entire store will meet these simple criteria. And since all shooting sports have the same holster requirements as John, this means many holster manufacturers have NEVER SHOT IN A SHOOTING SPORT IN THEIR ENTIRE LIFE! This is pretty sad. It's even more sad for a first time shooter in a shooting sport when he or she comes in with an un-usable holster because the clerk at the gun counter promised that it was "The best holster" for that shooting sport, even though it's not even usable. Thank you John for making this video!
@couldyou4745
@couldyou4745 Жыл бұрын
Sport?
@bibleburner8426
@bibleburner8426 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video John. I'm new to concealed carry and now I have a box of shame with 1 in it.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 4 жыл бұрын
Made my day. Not that you have to spend more money but just that this helped you.
@jalan8171
@jalan8171 4 жыл бұрын
Your three points as to a holster qualifying for an EDC are doubly critical for those desiring to carry a 1911 platform auto. THE key safety feature for such a gun ( my own sub compact Sig P938 ) is having a strap that securely positions between the cocked & locked hammer and the firing pin. Excellent presentation.
@Gunrunner223
@Gunrunner223 6 жыл бұрын
As a holster designer and builder, I agree that the trigger must always be covered completely, and you must be able to access. BUT, in a DEDICATED POCKET HOLSTER, you want the gun a bit loose so as the holster stays in the pocket on the draw! A snap retention, you will yank holster and all when drawing the gun in a defensive situation. That would be a fail! I'm not a big fan of pocket carry unless, there's NO other way, or for a last ditch back up. But good videos bro
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I am not a huge fan of pocket carry either. :)
@chuckbussell2400
@chuckbussell2400 6 жыл бұрын
yet you own a belly band..... ;-)
@rickeymac7674
@rickeymac7674 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this video and checking out your recommendations, I settled on the Protos-M by Black Arch Holsters. It meets all your qualifications for a good holster, is M.E.G.A. confortable, and keeps my handgun concealed. Thanks for the all the pro tips. Stay safe, RM
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's the only hybrid-like holster I can recommend.
@sethrich5998
@sethrich5998 6 жыл бұрын
I think your opinions are usually very practical but in this case I have to disagree on the completely covered trigger guard. Obviously I agree the trigger guard should be mostly covered, but I don't think the little tiny gap in the back has any practical difference. I can't see a plausible scenario in which that actually creates a safety issue or a malfunction. If you happen to have video that shows an issue related to that type of holster I'd love to see it, I'm always open to the idea I might be wrong if proven otherwise.
@hutchesonchris42
@hutchesonchris42 4 жыл бұрын
Pocket holster carry, now put your Keychain in your pocket, now pull your keys out from you pocket
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 2 жыл бұрын
Don't put anything else in your gun pocket in the first place.
@couldyou4745
@couldyou4745 Жыл бұрын
Brain dead comment.
@Jose-bc6me2316
@Jose-bc6me2316 4 жыл бұрын
I had haphazardly watched this video a few months back. Today I grabbed all my holsters deemed UNSAT by your criteria and ordered 2 of the ones you recommend. Thank you and blessings!
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@dfk1243
@dfk1243 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased a holster and a few accessories from Harry’s Holsters a few months back and the products are impeccable! They also fixed a shipping issue I had (which emanated from USPS) with absolute grace. Harry’s Holsters is a company that I’ll be visiting again for any and all future holster related purchases. 😎
@REALshawtyred
@REALshawtyred 6 жыл бұрын
You should design your own holster 🤔...I think I would buy it
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
It would take so much time to get exactly right.
@jawalove465
@jawalove465 6 жыл бұрын
Personally I have been considering making my own, I have experience manipulating plastics due to former employment and some current hobbies.
@alexduke5402
@alexduke5402 4 жыл бұрын
Yes of course it would take so long you'd rather spend hours talking trash about other people's work
@alexduke5402
@alexduke5402 4 жыл бұрын
@FUDDLEYP JONES I'm not offended lol it takes more than a YT video to get me worked up
@nomad155
@nomad155 3 жыл бұрын
@@jawalove465 do it brother. Give em a reason to be competitive
6 жыл бұрын
Very good information. I've been using FOBUS holsters for a number of years and very satisfied with their performance.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
They meet the criteria, mostly, but wouldn't be my first choice.
@gluemuncher1986
@gluemuncher1986 6 жыл бұрын
The worst kind of holster you can possibly wear is no holster at all. I made the bad mistake of Mexican carrying it in my local Walmart. It was all fine and dandy until the damn thing fell down my pants. Thank GOD I was able to get in under control without anyone noticing. I learned my lesson. Always have a holster.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, ALWAYS wear a holster.
@reyezkingz4123
@reyezkingz4123 6 жыл бұрын
Kelby Edmonson me too
@thegoldenchild4657
@thegoldenchild4657 6 жыл бұрын
You're an idiot!
@Jiraiya-Sama482
@Jiraiya-Sama482 5 жыл бұрын
Kelby Edmonson what is mexican carrying
@aperson4057
@aperson4057 5 жыл бұрын
My dad carries like this and I've tried, unsuccessfully, to convince him. Ironically, he is actually Mexican, so maybe it works for just us lol.
@herberar
@herberar 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, very interesting video, just one correction, if I'm allowed to, I would call that box , the box of experience . Thanks again !
@Chrisamos412
@Chrisamos412 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding, thank you! Looking forward to “what makes a holster good”.
@dm-fw3qu
@dm-fw3qu 6 жыл бұрын
Good job, as usual, John. I just bought a newly patented inside-the-pocket holster. It's called the "Bora II Eagle". It is very minimalist, but it fulfills your three characteristics for acceptability, I believe. I use it on my Glock 19 (9mm) and it allows me to have the firearm with me pretty much everywhere I go. It is fairly comfortable, very well concealed, and very easily accessed. Would love to hear your take on it. Every friend I've shown it to has loved it and said they wanted to buy it.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
I would be interested to see it.
@gbenother8755
@gbenother8755 6 жыл бұрын
I have carried a BORAII Eagle for a year. it was fine at first, but it is non adjustable Tyvek, and is now falling. Inside the pocket, it is letting go of the gun at the farthest forward point , and rotating around the trigger guard. That has threr serious ramifications: A) it exposes the trigger, B) it rotates the hook to the bottom of the magazine, making it ineffectual, and C).it activates the magazine release on my LCP. When i contacted BORAII about these problems, they immediately sent me a new one that is a different design. This one grips the gun so firmly that the hook no longer operates, and will not release without a huge force. I'll be replacing this with whatever I can find that is similar except with adjustable tension.
@semajniffirg230
@semajniffirg230 4 жыл бұрын
If you can pocket carry a glock 19 u need to do some leg work at the gym lmao
@charlesbyrneShowComments4all
@charlesbyrneShowComments4all 6 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing with my belly band style holster for my Glock 43. The version I have has a sewn in compartment for the "trigger guard" but is stretchy and I thought dangerous. So I got a kydex trigger guard and the lanyard is looped through the retention strap and belt loop (if what I am wearing has a loop within proximity otherwise just the retention strap loop). It isn't my primary carry, but it is suitable when I use it and safer now.
@reverett8386
@reverett8386 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did this one I've been torn in my decision
@schuncke
@schuncke 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video - I personally use Blueline LLC Kydex holsters . Where I live is real hot and Im thin and I need real concealment and there’s works well. The only time I use soft holster is for my guns that stay home and I try to keep them from getting scratched . I remember at 1st I tried the belly bands . Man do this things suck. They always rode up as soon as I sat. Being thin I have to ISW carry during the hot months . Ive got use to it now when eating and sitting in the car. Love all your vids , never miss a one . One can never get enough teaching on gun safety and what to do or importantly what NOT TO DO. I think every new shooter should see this video. For their safety and to protect their pocketbook :-)
@TheBrinkofDestruction
@TheBrinkofDestruction 3 жыл бұрын
18:40 I appreciate how automatically different you are with the airsoft and 100% inert guns. Helped show why you always look your gun into the holster
@petetracker3472
@petetracker3472 6 жыл бұрын
These Holster videos are the best ever on KZfaq!!! Thanks!
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@d.y.h.w.
@d.y.h.w. 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you did Bersa 380 first. Looking on Safariland for a holster. Thanks!!!!!
@quentinjohnson2032
@quentinjohnson2032 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the information
@derobertjames2083
@derobertjames2083 6 жыл бұрын
I use a belly band in Florida, and mine has a strap that goes over the gun to hold it in.
@pagecrow7252
@pagecrow7252 5 жыл бұрын
howdy John: We are coming out to KS for the seminar. Thank you for putting it on. I just discovered my holster fails. Now I need a new holster quickly. What outside the waist holster WORKS for the P365 Sig? I have figured out both holsters I purchased will not meet your requirements for the seminar. I gotta get a working holster that will pass your tests. Thanks for everything, John.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 5 жыл бұрын
Email Steph (her email is in the one your received) and see if she can get you sorted out.
@greyduck68
@greyduck68 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video John. I bet there will be a lot of butt hurt people out there over this one but I value your opinion. Maybe some holster makers will watch this one and learn from it.
@richardphysician5640
@richardphysician5640 6 жыл бұрын
I paused after the dude said "There are three things a holster should do." so I could guess what they are. 1. Securely holds the firearm 2. Holster completely covers the trigger and guard. 3. Smells like roses. Ok, I blanked on the third one, gotta admit that. And now....unpause.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
SO CLOSE!
@betterworld1
@betterworld1 6 жыл бұрын
me too. maybe full grip on handle ability.
@aholegunner
@aholegunner 6 жыл бұрын
RT Solo, Im sure 95% of people dont get it. LMAO!! But thats hilarious man!!
@richardphysician5640
@richardphysician5640 6 жыл бұрын
52 years I've lived with that name.
@SpecialK6685
@SpecialK6685 6 жыл бұрын
I had the same concern with a belly band that I had. I got a different one from tactical 10 to use with my glock 43. I was unable to move the trigger through the neoprene band that holds the gun in place. However I had thought about the addition of a mick trigger cover in conjunction with the belly band prior to seeing this video. Good to know I was on the right track.
@Ando2k10
@Ando2k10 5 жыл бұрын
I just watched this video because I've been looking for a decent belly band holster, but had not found one that protected the trigger. My worry is having an accidental discharge after flopping into a seat, or having the seatbelt receiver catch the trigger. I had thought of the mick trigger cover solution paired with a belly band with a retention strap.
@JamesSanders
@JamesSanders 4 жыл бұрын
what is the very first pocket holster that you said was a 'holster'. You didn't mention the name, tnx! I'm trying to avoid my own box of shame build out.. The holster I'm asking about is about 6:45, tnx
@edvolve
@edvolve 3 жыл бұрын
Great instructor.
@RobertPyland
@RobertPyland 6 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos yet. It addresses real world problems of carrying a firearm. Can you do a video of carry styles and the problems with using them such as visiting the restroom or sitting in a chair with arms while side carrying?
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea!
@Dawnseeker2000
@Dawnseeker2000 4 жыл бұрын
"Learn from my derp" 🤣
@rottdogg8926
@rottdogg8926 6 жыл бұрын
Was hoping you would also mention holsters which can catch inside the trigger guard when holstering. Most Unintentional Discharges I've seen were due to this. Particular to leather holsters which have either cheap or worn out leather which can fold and end up inside the trigger guard. This actually happened to a friend who UD'd a 45 round into his thigh when holstering his Glock and had the leather catch inside his trigger guard.
@couldyou4745
@couldyou4745 Жыл бұрын
Wow that's pure incompetence from that manufacturer.
@ThePNWRiderWA
@ThePNWRiderWA 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what your saying except for pocket holsters and belly bands . Granted the fabric based uncle mikes it’s possible to depress the trigger with you finger from the outside and I rule those out. However the wallet style are leather cover the trigger and still allow an easy draw. The kydex ones with great retention I don’t like as they slow an already slow draw even more. The way they release is IMO a gimmick hook that may or may not work based on pants. Dress slacks they fail. Big pockets they fail. Belly bands or the crotch carry bands it’s still possible to depress the trigger if the fabric bunch’s up Since they are often worn at the gym or exercise it’s important to be aware. I noted it while cycling it could be possible. What I did was cut a piece of thin plastic cut to fit and drilled a few holes where the firearm sits and sewed it in place. That prevents any chance of it happening.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
I said leather and kydex pocket holsters are good.
@TheTamashek
@TheTamashek 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that and not being selfish
@dominicbuck3744
@dominicbuck3744 4 жыл бұрын
Box of shame, what a great, helpful, hilarious concept
@joshb4577
@joshb4577 6 жыл бұрын
Alien Gear Holster commercial is on your video here ,lol .. funny coincidence
@justinofboulder
@justinofboulder 6 жыл бұрын
Vedder Holster was the commercial for me.....their light tuck looks interesting, but I am pretty happy with my Longs Shodows and INCOGs....
@craneman602
@craneman602 6 жыл бұрын
I have a kydex holster from Vedder and carried it every day for about 9 months now. Works great.
@Nobody-11B
@Nobody-11B 6 жыл бұрын
Josh B I have an OTB from them and it by far the best holster I've ever seen. I've beaten the living crap out of that thing on the farm for about 2 years still perfect.
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 6 жыл бұрын
how is it funny? i didn't get that response from what happened.
@BillKneer
@BillKneer 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John, I love watching your video and I appreciate your honest educated opinions. I have like many purchased a few holsters and after watching this video I find the ones a use now are really not good. I carry appendix and I have been looking for a good apendex holster with loops... What is the one you use? i just found out your also a minister... that's great. Thanks for letting the light shine through all you do.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite kydex holster maker is Gabe at The Armory: get-asp.com/ksgarmory and if you use coupon ASP2017 he ships free. (I make nothing)
@BillKneer
@BillKneer 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ill go buy one... BUT Y=you should make a little you are one of the best commentators iv seen. i will make sure they know that.. Thanks, Brother.
@BillKneer
@BillKneer 3 жыл бұрын
@@ASPextra I have been rising this holster daily for 3 years still looks and works great... I wish they made one for the TLR.. so far everyone I have purchased has been trash...
@blue03r6
@blue03r6 2 жыл бұрын
I like the paddle on the safariland ALS. Keeps it in the perfect position for me
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 2 жыл бұрын
It's a big failure point, though. Beware of that.
@blue03r6
@blue03r6 2 жыл бұрын
@@ASPextra i have to make a correction. I actually have the 578 GLS pro-fit holster. is the paddle the same? and what happens to them?
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's the same. We just see people use the paddle incorrectly a lot, and also in grappling have seen them break and also come off in testing.
@ig8895
@ig8895 5 жыл бұрын
Orpaz holsters work great for me. Any thoughts? Great content by the way.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have personal experience with them, but a casual perusal of their website looks like they meet the requirements.
@WeekdayWeekend
@WeekdayWeekend 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I got a holster from KSG and I love it. I've owned it for probably about a year and it's amazing, definitely worth it if anyone is considering getting a product by KSG.
@tortol4847
@tortol4847 4 жыл бұрын
I have a few different holsters... Including a couple serpas. The only one I actually regret buying was the alien gear holster. Hybrid holsters are a waste of money. Horribly uncomfortable, difficult to get proper retention, and very annoying to put on. I bought a kydex holster from "we the people" and it works great. It has a very stiff clip that hooks under your belt. Great retention, the trigger guard is entirely enclosed, and it's comfortable to wear even being a rigid kydex holster. I can sit down in my car and it's almost unnoticeable. Less is more when it comes to holsters.
@tedcollins4684
@tedcollins4684 Жыл бұрын
Good info., if you can try before you buy.
@davidmcfatridge
@davidmcfatridge 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks just bought 3 holsters, all of the have a tiny trigger gap 😡 its a glock 23 model 4 with mag release just behind the trigger 🤔 maybe this is why the manufacturers leave a gap (hosters Bianchi,Don Hume,Fobus) guess I'll cary unchambered 😟
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 3 жыл бұрын
No, I did a follow up on this to clarify. For an IWB holster, a tiny gap is probably fine. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iuB6e9Sd0anVlXk.html I don't ever recommend carrying chamber empty for defensive purposes.
@calig2349
@calig2349 Жыл бұрын
Thanks John. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@ASPextra
@ASPextra Жыл бұрын
You bet!
@youtubepunisher8695
@youtubepunisher8695 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 21 and never owned a gun but I want to and I want to carry. I also want to be responsible and trained. What's great about this video was the fact that you kept repeating the 3 rules. As repetitive as it sounded, it's now in my brain because I learn by repitition. Thank you
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@joshuarosenblatt
@joshuarosenblatt Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha. We’ve all got our crappy box of shame. And there’s guaranteed to be at least one Uncle Mikes or two in each 😂
@SmokeDogNY420
@SmokeDogNY420 6 жыл бұрын
This is a good vid, challenges what many use to carry and for good reason. I would highly recommend always wearing a belt when you go out in public. Not only does it secure pants and firearm, but it can be used for other tasks in a pinch, especially if you always carry a knife.
@bradleybrewer9576
@bradleybrewer9576 6 жыл бұрын
What about holsters that covers trigger guard and straps around the back of gun , but if not strapped fall out no shake. Finally if forceful can pull trigger but it is difficult.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
Bad bad bad. :)
@jay-dee5.562
@jay-dee5.562 6 жыл бұрын
Just got a Desantis Inside Heat for my M&P Shield .45 and it passed your test.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
Good!
@carlostangonan5117
@carlostangonan5117 6 жыл бұрын
Even with holsters, we must cover our asp!!
@garylavorgna5976
@garylavorgna5976 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Wish I had seen this 5 years ago. Enjoy all your videos. Thanks!
@MichaelWilliams-nu6lv
@MichaelWilliams-nu6lv 4 жыл бұрын
I know of many gun owners walking around with those 19 dollar holsters because they think the more expensive ones are too expensive or they are just plain long cheap which explains why their thinking of training is lacking also but they love to brag that they have that custom firearm or the Kimber // OH well 😄😄
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 4 жыл бұрын
So true!
@keithrickson8522
@keithrickson8522 4 жыл бұрын
I was cringing so hard if mine was going to be next, then he pulled out my Kydex and said "friends, this is an acceptable holster!" Yess that's my baby ☺
@danw7156
@danw7156 Жыл бұрын
#4. A good holster is also easy to reholster. I have a box of crap holsters. So years ago I started making them myself.
@PhotoBoothGuy
@PhotoBoothGuy 5 жыл бұрын
This question is for John... Do you have an opinion on the Smart Carry Holster...? Love your show, Thanks for what you do & all the Great information...!
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I do. I don’t like it at all.
@ryanmaharaj4365
@ryanmaharaj4365 5 жыл бұрын
What's the best IWB Holster for a Sig Sauer p320 compact
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite kydex holster maker is Gabe at The Armory: get-asp.com/ksgarmory and if you use coupon ASP2019 you get 10% off. (I make nothing) Next is Jon Hauptman of PHLster: www.phlsterholsters.com/ (use coupon code ASP10 for a 10% discount at checkout; again, I make nothing) Third is Keepers Concealment: keepersconcealment.com/ Next is Dark Star Gear: darkstargear.com/ use coupon code ASP10 to save 10% (I make nothing) Also check out Henry Holsters: www.henryholsters.com/ If you want leather, Milt Sparks is amazing: www.miltsparks.com/
@R0dan
@R0dan 5 жыл бұрын
I have my box of shame also😆 Learned a lot from this video...thank-you!
@bjs301
@bjs301 6 жыл бұрын
The belly band got me thinking you should do a video on holsters for women. I supervise investigators who must dress professionally. My predecessor bought Blackhawk Serpa's, which are ridiculous even for men.
@jonathananatrella2964
@jonathananatrella2964 6 жыл бұрын
Taking into account the materials of a holster is also important. I'd implore any member of law enforcement to get a kydex holster. Reason being: While soft materials like leather are more comfortable, they collapse on themselves after you draw. Kydex doesn't do that, so let's say you have to reholster to go hands on with a suspect you'll be able to. I highly recommend Safariland retention holsters for any LEO, that's my top recommendation.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
I love kydex. That said, a quality leather holster won't collapse when you draw the gun.
@jonathananatrella2964
@jonathananatrella2964 6 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite comfort wise is Contact Concealment but long waiting time.
@hatekate54
@hatekate54 4 жыл бұрын
i love the genuine disgust and emotion
@radiohobbyist13
@radiohobbyist13 2 жыл бұрын
I like it even better when I draw a gun and the holster comes out with the gun, WHOOPS!!! 🤭 😅
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@Grizzlytactics91
@Grizzlytactics91 4 жыл бұрын
hey john, can you elaborate on why the trigger guard being completely covered is such a huge deal? i understand the trigger being covered, and if the material is strong enough to prevent anything to get to the trigger why would that still be a fail? if i am not conveying it well enough, assume that first galco holster you showed had solid rigid leather, why would it still be a fail?
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 4 жыл бұрын
Because stuff can still get in there and impinge the trigger.
@deniyackle4979
@deniyackle4979 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I have an M&P Smith and Wesson .380 ACP, being a right handed female I can not find a real concealable holster that I can wear over the weapon. I need to find something that would work while I lift and carry items and it be seen. Most are in the pants and unless I want to buy a whole new wardrobe they don't work. CAN YOU HELP?
@jessearroyo3927
@jessearroyo3927 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. This information is extremely useful.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@preacherbeeman3437
@preacherbeeman3437 Жыл бұрын
In every area of life most of us would say the problem is folks not using a piece of gear as intended. I say that goes for some of the holsters you say are fails, too. If used as directed, products like sticky holsters and uncle Mike pocket holsters are safe, cheap, and comfortable. Using your belt, pocket, clothing, and always being aware of your weapons condition are key.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra Жыл бұрын
No, they need to meet the requirements.
@preacherbeeman3437
@preacherbeeman3437 Жыл бұрын
@@ASPextra your requirements, not "the requirements." Your requirements are fine, but they are not the end all and be all that everybody must adhere to. There are respected "gun people" who use some of the holsters you say are not up to the standard. Yours isn't the only opinion that matters, though your opinion is educated and appreciated.
@ASPextra
@ASPextra Жыл бұрын
Welcome to my space. Here, they are "the requirements." I know too many "gun people" who know nothing about defensive firearms use to trust "gun people" or their opinion. Name a name and we can talk about whether their opinion is qualified.
@preacherbeeman3437
@preacherbeeman3437 Жыл бұрын
@@ASPextra Hickock45, for one, has reviewed such pocket holsters and speaks of using them at times. Of course, what does he know? I'm not interested in getting into an argument with you. I shouldn't have to. You put your opinion out in the public square, and your response to corrections or criticisms that were given in a respectful manner, could have been less dismissive. Honestly, your response seems full of arrogance and pride. You put a pistol in a holster, then turn the holster upside down and shake. Big surprise that the weapon falls out. The holster was never designed to be used in such a manner. In that case, the holster doesn't fail. You fail. This isn't your world. It's the real world. Such holsters have been used for a combination of who knows how many hundreds of thousands or millions of hours by countless people who carry with them every day. How many of those instances of carry end up in accidental discharge? I don't know, but you might. A great response to my criticism might have been four you to cite such numbers in support of your opinion. How many times have pistols fallen out of kydex holsters that weren't properly adjusted? I've seen at least one instance of that happening in a video posted online. This whole conversation is ridiculous. "Welcome to my space." Really? Your tone has probably ruined it for me. Not that you care. It's a shame, because I really do think you have a ton of excellent content to share and learn from. I do apologize for having a different perspective and sharing it in "your space." I wasn't trying to say I was smarter than you.
@wsmaga
@wsmaga 6 жыл бұрын
another great video, thanks. I'm really liking the holster series.
@YTONTHEMOON
@YTONTHEMOON 4 жыл бұрын
Consider raising your rate with Urban Carry as there is a 15-day wait to talk to them. Great Product, that LockLeather!
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 4 жыл бұрын
Those holsters are trash!
@YTONTHEMOON
@YTONTHEMOON 4 жыл бұрын
@@ASPextra Please expand. My understanding was that you endorsed them. That's why I purchased it.
@gregorypdearth
@gregorypdearth 6 жыл бұрын
My cheap alien-wear $30 hybrid passes all these tests, even when it is not on me (no pressure). I watched his anti-hybrid video and I just don't get it. On mine I actually had to install a slightly larger set of spacers because the retention was too tight to be able to quickly draw. Even with the largest spacers the firearm won't drop out of the holster unless I shake the crap out of it. And if it is on my person, the added pressure of my body against the leather makes it even tighter. Oh well. To each their own. I love the channel. Good pointers. I am looking for an OWB now and will certainly be looking for his three metrics regardless of my disagreement over hybrids. Now that I think of it, it might be that in my particular case the firearm is why my hybrid works well. I have a Beretta APX and those aggressive deep serrations on the entire length of the slide make it pretty damn secure no matter what holster I use, even my cheap leather Galco (in my box of shame now). By the way: LOVING the APX. Sweet trigger, nice soft recoil, eats everything I throw at it, great mag design, super efficient grip that always seems to plant my hand nice and high... I was going to get a PPQ as my next gun, but ended up loving the APX more. The PPQ is still sweet (mainly the trigger and grip curve are absolutely perfect) and if I had the mullah I would own both. One thing that made the APX better was the reduced size of the slide release (I have big long fingers that tend to interfere with longer larger slide releases).
@tmonroe85
@tmonroe85 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I'm new to firearms, and this is one thing that has bothered me. I'm not new to safety though, and if you've ever seen any of the "Final Destination" series, there is a malevolent force in that movie that is always looking for an opening, and I try to treat safety like I am working against this force. As to holsters, I always imagine that force is using something to try to work in and get to the trigger of my pistol while it's in the holster. There are several youtube videos of people shooting themselves while holstering (or while holstered), so I know that something like this is not uncommon. I got an urban carry holster, and while it conceals well, its bothered me that if I really tried, I could probably work the trigger while the gun is holstered. I found a minimalist trigger holster for my gun, and I've attached the lanyard to the clip on the urban carry - similar to what you showed in the video. I have a lot more piece of mind now, because I can keep it in I know that the gun is absolutely not going to go off accidentally no matter what I do. The lanyard pulls off as I remove the gun from the holster (with just a slight tug), so I can safely carry with a round in the chamber and I know I'm not going to have a really bad day with it.
@jmperlin
@jmperlin 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you answered many of my questions.
@RoostedFilms
@RoostedFilms 6 жыл бұрын
Temper tantrum shake test lol! My leather IWB wouldn't pass that test but it does pass the restroom belt drop test.
@WN8HGZ
@WN8HGZ Жыл бұрын
Very well done thanks
@WN8HGZ
@WN8HGZ Жыл бұрын
Tell us also which u recommend
@ASPextra
@ASPextra Жыл бұрын
We have a list of holster makers we recommend here: activeselfprotection.com/holsters/ I am currently carrying in a Dark Star Gear Orion.
@rainmayhem4255
@rainmayhem4255 6 жыл бұрын
Great video John
@ASPextra
@ASPextra 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nickl3872
@nickl3872 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John, great information
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