TLDR: They didn't watch the video

My main issue with this game is making me play as a human when the commando droid character is RIGHT THERE. LET ME PLAY AS HIM, HE LOOKS SO FUCKING COOL

Eck when drama: “peace” Eck when bad Star Wars: “well intended criticism” Eck when fan content gets stolen: “so you have chosen… death”

You're literally one of the least polarizing or controversial Star Wars people I've ever seen online, so I have no idea why people take issue with those videos. You really need to ignore the weirdos that post criticisms like that and just be you. You're a good dude and you will attract the audience that gravitates towards honesty and straight-forwardness. If this video isn't proof of that then nothing ever will be.

130$ for a game is wild

I know its easier said than done but you gotta stop worrying about twitter and reddit. Theyre largely cesspits of negativity so diving into the fan interactions there will obviously only bring about more negative interactions. You dont generally address the positive comments which on your youtube is most of them

You're fine dude, people just be crazy these days. Hypercombative and hyper defensive mental cases.

The fact your able to reflect with such maturity shows how genuine you are as a person... respect, brother. 🙏

We live in a polarizing time and ‘if you aren’t with me you are my enemy’ you are very reasonably in the middle with your takes which pisses off both sides. Keep up your uniqueness man.

I just want a good Star Wars game with at least like able characters

$130 for the full game is horseshit. Not to mention, that’s not even for a physical copy, so it can be yoinked from you at any time for whatever reason Ubisoft makes up.

Don't let people get to you. Stick to objective Star Wars talk. If you're positive, some will hate. If you're negative, some will hate. Just be fair and honest. Let the rest be

There are some deeper underlying issues with the game (and studio) and Star Wars as a whole (since before Disney). First, it's an Ubisoft game. The studio that is famous for doing the bare minimum to be considered AAA. All the human character models look like butts, not just the main character. Almost every human in the trailers look too wooden and generic. Nothing in their designs stands them apart from an NPC within their the game itself. Which leads into the next issue. Star Wars games have almost all been about a Han Solo-like. Dash Rendar (Han Solo but with a different model ship and robot side kick), Kyle Katarn (Han Solo with more guns and later Han Solo but also a Jedi), and now Han Solo but is a girl and has animal side kick. You can only play a smuggler with a heart of gold so many times before it gets old. It's like Star Wars can't escape the confines of it's own world where you can only either be a force user or a smuggler.

Other people: rabble rabble rabble rabble. Me: SPACE AXOLOTL!!! SQUEEEEE!

Crazy how a static thumbnail can blow up into an entire controversy for no reason. If that doesn’t say something about the current state of the Star Wars community, nothing does.

She's the pretty neighbor girl, NOT a stunning supermodel. She's a little above average, like a real person. Bravo.

Brother, your content always rocks! You fly your ship straight and you don't need to apologyze to anyone! Always got my support.

For me, the issue w the MC of Outlaws is that to me she is just too generic looking, not just her face but overall, it doesn't appeal to me, and obviously that's fine, and others are welcome to disagree w my opinions and views. I am just tired of playing as a generic looking human in a galaxy filled with thousands of species, not to mention the same companion pet trope we've seen before in JFO and JS. And ik it isn't the type of open world game I am looking for, but customization is extremely important to me. Idk I just don't see the appeal, but again that's me.

My take on Star Wars outlaws Pricing: Complete Bullshit Content: Locked behind paywall What made me not want to buy it anymore is that the game isn’t being released on steam after being available for pre order on EGS and Ubi Connect. No steam? No thanks.

I think a big problem is that a lot of the nasty part of the fandom letches on to valid criticism and insert their own awful takes. Discrediting the valid criticism with weird culture war conspiracies.

Ill wait till reviews. But i have doubts, just because whos making it.

Such a shame to see a game I was so excited for drown in bad press, especially when it’s justified…

It's good to see youtubers admit their mistakes and not be generally not nice to people, but I think you're a good youtuber. Also whatshername's face does make sense for that thumbnail, as she is the main character.

Eck I love your content. Anyone that watches regularly can tell that your intentions come from a love of the franchise, despite thumbnails or critiques or anything else. You always seem to have a very fair and interesting analysis of Star Wars content. That's why you are pretty much the only Star Wars channel that I watch every video you post. All that to say I love your videos, keep it up :)

I got this far. I also appreciate that you took the time to analyze the criticism and see where you could make improvements. I enjoy your content, so maybe I am a bit biased, but I think you do a pretty good job.

Good luck, thanks for always being so open to your community, and thanks for all your years of amazing content.

I heard what you said. But all I could think while that game was in the background was "MAT DAAAAAMON!"

I personally don't have a problem with her appearance and I'm interested in the game. But a sad truth of SW discourse is that it doesn't take much these days to get accused of being part of "Ze Fandom Menace" or whatever they call it.

in a world full of toxic fandom, this is one of the only channels i continue to watch because it is generally positive and doesn't stoop to culture war clickbait or recreational outrage. but what do i know? i'm just an ordinary person.

When an 8 year old game engine renders you, look good, you will not.

Appreciate the clarification. I thought immediately when i saw the title "he's not gonna talk about the main character. That's not his style" but i get how people could get triggered and make some big assumptions. I think some people get saturated in negativity and eventually see it in everything.

Wait.. you were called a Cannibal Humanoid Underground Dweller? Well that's just not fair at all!

I hope that they watch this video and understand the context of your criticism's to Outlaws. I really hope the fan base can discern between idealogical idiots spewing hate and people genuinely concerned for the future of the IP we love. We as fans were so strong against EA with microtransactions in Battlefront 2, why can we not stand arm in arm against other predatory developers praying on fans? Disney still refuses to work with passionate small developers unless you are AAA. I understand that with Outlaws it seems like they are delving into lore of prequel locations, and know fans want to see more, but please recognise that Ubisoft has continually stated and shown that they are trying to milk there IP's for as much money as possible. From time savers, loot boxes, NFT's and making high tier items lockable behind a pay wall. We as fans deserve better games and stories.

I thought the original video's criticism was talking about the price point. I'm so confused although not surprised. Things have been getting more and more tense lately. I hope you're doing well Eck.

Tbh I really hope this game actually flops, but I know it won't. Way too many people will complain, buy it, then complain more. That's why this shit keeps happening. Guys, it's okay to NOT CONSUME A PRODUCT. That's okay! Just don't do it. Or play it when it's on gamepass or heavy sale in a while.

I appreciate the reflection and acknowledgement of nuance on your videos. There are interesting and considered critiques of games that are fun and constructive to debate and reflect on, bad faith arguments and misdirected anger get in the way of that. I think you are doing a great job. Your authenticity and subjectivity is a great characteristic and you do a really good job of making content that I want to watch when I see it popup as a recommendation and I'm never disappointed.

Internet people ‘don’t automatically think you have someone’’s whole person figured out by their internet persona’ challenge (impossible)

My problem with Outlaws is not so much the game, but mostly with Ubishite because they have proven time and time again to be absolute Scum! to the costumers (from personal experience). I don't think Kay looks ugly but she looks Uncanny valley like all the human characters in the game trailers. And it's so frustrating seeing how yet another game is going for realistic faces when they are FAR from it because it still requires some really heavy hardware just to run this failed attempt at photorealism when they could have gone for a more stylized look (It's animation after all!). And my other complaint about the game itself is, why the hell does SW games now absolutely need to have a cute dog or pet like thing running next to the hero all the time??? I remember playing plenty of SW games in the past without this crap. It's infantile and it's a Guardians of the Galaxy rip off! Basically it screams game design pr. committee. ps. Speaking of design pr. committee, i really feel that too much SW media these is suffering from this. It's like almost no one can make a SW show or game and actually have their own vision so we end up having mostly a carefully lab grown product.

There are some of us that appreciate who you are and what you do. Dont let a few upset people bring you down. I know i can always count on you to put out great content that puts a smile on my face. I have been really down about star wars lately, but you always find a way to find the positives! Stay true to yourself and know there are people that support you!

My problem with this game is that is shouting "I suck" from light years away.

Was a good video. I remember seeing "Fans are pissed at Star Wars" in my recommended videos and purposefully ignored it because of the assumptions I'd drawn. Will go and watch it now though.

Totally get it Justin, It's crazy hard for you man. Anybody who puts their work, ideas, thoughts or opinions out in public space is open to ridicule. Please don't get those comments get to you though, sometimes you just can't and never will win. Pleasing others can be positive absolutely, ride those highs but once you get that huge audience mass that you will always find that percentage of our population that's just sad and toxic and you can never please or win with them, even with genuine openness and reason. Man i can't believe last year i ran into your NBA channel so keep grinding the KZfaq space man, love your content!!!!

I'm gonna be entirely honest I'm kinda shocked people have an issue with your videos. you're one of the only star wars channels I can consistently watch for things other than lore explanations because you actually engage with any criticism of star wars and media in general in a very thoughtful way. There were times where I got worried by a thumbnail (actually funny enough, this happened with the video this video is about) but after I actually watched it I realized that you were making a genuine case about aspects of the game you were worried about and you made your stance clear

We live in a world when people dont get the content they want and thus still complain when the price is out of this world. The price for this game is defiantly outrages and should be addressed nonetheless. But you cant always get what you want. Keep grinding EckhartsLadder and put your concerns out there so that one day the people that are hating can come back and reflect and have a different mindset on your content. May the force be with you .

I've got to admit, when I first saw the video thumbnail I thought "Eck no!!!" and then you immediately said "no, not that dumb garbage", and i sighed in relief. But I hadn't heard about the crappy monetization planned for this game and was genuinely looking forward and wanting to play, but I'm not supporting greedy fleecing of the consumer tactics. I'll play the game, but not till it's reasonably priced and complete. Eckhart, you're a rock star. Keep up the good work.

bro never make a video without the intro music ok"angry"

My personal opinion: I think THIS is the game where Ubisoft is done taking the little inches that we, the customers, have been letting them get away with. From the blatant differences between Vess and her voice actor/character model ( because yes, she is both) to the insulting game price predation, and even the racist and sexist remarks of Community Manager Shauna Jones and her, to my knowledge, not being fired or issuing a public apology, Star Wars Outlaws is where Ubisoft attempts to take the mile.

While the bigger issue is definitely Ubisoft’s egregious pricing model for Outlaws, I still think the Kay Vess face model controversy has merit seeing as Kay Vess barely looks like Humberly Gonzales(who she’s modeled after), which is weird that she’s the only human character who seemingly got this treatment in this game and in the Jedi Fallen Order games, which all use pretty spot on mocap tech to do the modeling and animation for their faces and bodies.

I thought it was a solid video with understandable opinions on the game. The fact that you got put on blast for it is crazy. I have always loved your stuff because of the level-headed nature of your videos - even in the critical ones. Hang in there man! Sorry you’ve been going through this.

As a man who is neither thoughtful or insightful, I enjoy these videos. I enjoy your wider view of people and their online reactions to events. "Events" probably isn't the best word, but it has a wider meaning. I am also glad that you talked about avoiding anxiety from online interaction. I like Star Wars.

I just want character customization.

in regards to the video titles: if your whole video can be spoiled in a title then it didn't need to be a video in the first place. Make it a tweet or a community post instead. If it can't be spoiled in the title, then give it a good consice title that lets people know what to expect.

I mean for one, $130 game. Two Ubisoft. Three, they made a beautiful model of color into a very plain white woman. So, yeah. She's not ugly... But yeah. The face and animations don't do her any favors. Those are the reasons I'm annoyed with Outlaws. Mainly 1 and 2.

I think your title and thumbnail format is great. especially when you choose the best frames that would otherwise be degraded by text being slapped on them.

Been watching daily since the beginning. Not everyone grew up with the channel to really be familiar with your personality. You understand that though, it's just hard to let go sometimes of caring about what people think. Especially when you're a good person.

Ubisoft doesn’t deserve to do a money grab Star Wars game

The thing I hate about this game is Ubisoft made it, thier engine is outdated and the price is ridiculous. The face thing makes me laugh but for some reason ps3 StarKiller and Kal Kestis ps4 and ps5 somehow the dev's can scan their faces. Bruh even the actors in Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls on the ps3 plus Detroit Become Human on the ps4 made by Quantic Dream led David Cage some how they scanned male and feamle faces successfully. Plus don't forget people Quantic Dream is based in Paris since 1997.

I think this was an excellent way to answer the criticism you got, even if the criticism was off base. I love your content and think it’s so non controversial that any Star Wars fan could consume it and be like yeah his opinion is valid (even if we sometimes disagree on a specific piece of media). Keep it up Eck, cheers.

Love the channel & how genuine you are, keep up the good work

Reject outlaws, return to EAW

@Eckhartsladder, this channel is in my opinion one of the few channels that doesn’t jump on the negativity bandwagon. You state your opinions on somethings as well as give your viewers great lore content, the thumbnails that you use aren’t clickbait, and for the most part I find that when I read them I I something of a general indicator on what the content of the video that you posted is about. You do awesome work on this channel, please keep up the awesome work.

congrats on 1m

You and generation tech are the only Star Wars related channels I watch/listen to, find informative (imo) and pretty level-headed people. I think you’re fine, keep doing what you do and thanks for the vids

Factions compared idea sci fi insect swarm. Such as Tyranids, arachnids, Zerg, rachni, terminids.

Crazy that the loudest 1% assumes that when you attack the things they add agendas to, they assume your attacking the agenda instead of the quality of the content that they have attacked a certain agenda to. Not that those agendas are defendable in certain respects but we should be allowed to criticize content for the quality instead of the political implications in said content.

It’s Twitter, they’re gonna get pissed over anything, especially when they have no idea what they’re talking about. Ain’t on you chief.

"Whats going on here??" *sees SW Outlaws* *also sees its made by Ubisoft* "Oh, well whatever criticism its getting it probably already deserves. Moving on."

Just a couple minutes in and I get you Eck. I have had modest success with my channel and since then a small amount of trolls. I had one commenter the other day demand that I narrate my videos (which I normally do) but this one was a 'capture-the-video-after-the fact' kinda situation and the first part is just gameplay, but the demand got my goat. I blasted him. Another commenter called me on it, but it fell under the heading of constructive criticism so I thanked him for it. Haven't from either which maybe a blessing in disguise.

Keep being you fella. I’m a long term regular subscriber and that’s unlikely to change anytime soon.

Honestly, i don't understand such people. You immediately addressed that point in that video. And I fully agree with what you said about the design. I don't see anythin wrong on your side. I just see people eho love to hate or conjure opinion on minimum of information...

I love your content dont change who you are. Just because people dont agree with you doesnt make you a bad person

Sending you some love man, I love this channel and your hockey channel! Criticism is fine but don't let KZfaq quiet down your opinions or personality, in the end that's why we like you❤

I’ve been watching you since about 200k subs, and I’ve never seen you be really hateful or negative, with the exception of home resonance copyright.

It's the same people that are cancerous on Twitter and Reddit don't pay them any attention they're just easily offended by anything and everything and really just follow the flow of someone that they idolize or didn't even watch the content. It's sad.

You cant please all the people all the time. Dont beat yourself up Eck, just continue pumping out the fabulous content!

Ubisoft: hey this games big, let’s make the price even bigger.

eck sounds like Carth explaining why he doesn't trust in KOTOR

Don't have to apologize for being Canadian. It doesn't normally revolve around sides or drama with us.

Last night, I had a dream that I had a mission to drown Jabba the Hutt. That's it. That's my comment of the day.

I personally appreciate your honesty and transparency in this video

Why are people saying the main character is ugly? She literally looks like a normal person.

This is interesting, I didn’t feel you did anything clickbait. I do agree with you on a lot of Star Wars and agree that the game developers need to be called out on the pricing for the game. I appreciate your candor!

Never apologize for fair criticism. Unless you're an enthusiastic cheerleader of their cause, these types of people will always consider you the enemy. Might as well keep your head up, and give them a dignified "shove it".

Definitely have been a critic about your video titles for a while (been subbed since 2019), just too similar to outrage bait sw channels sometimes, but I’m glad that you acknowledged it and I don’t think you should be too hard on yourself, I understand running a channel is also a business. Still love your vids, Eck!

Hey eck just wanted to say i appertiate your content it helps me get through the days. You do you.

I legitimately didn't click the last video because I assumed it was about her appearance lol.

EckhardtsLadder and GenerationTech are the only two star wars channels I consistently watch and trust for fair and balanced takes that don't devolve into the base drivel so prevalent in the fandom and pushed by the youtube algorithm. I don't always agree with Justin's takes, but I never doubt his sincerity

Hey Eck, been a long time viewer, I am super into star wars, and you are basically my main hub for star wars news and lore vids, but I don't know anything about you, I don't have twitter, I am not into all this drama stuff, I basically pop into your channel for the updates reviews and lore, then go on with my life, so maybe my perspective is valuable since I am out of that drama sphere. From my perspective, your titles and thumbnails are the best way to market your videos, they are intriguing, they give an idea as to what the video is going to be about, and they are in line with the actual content, you are playing the algorithm in the best way imo, without resorting to Mr. beast surprised face yellow text thumbnails, I don't see an overall problem with your method, and I think people who do just don't like the way the algorithm works, which is understandable, but not a problem that begins or ends with you. As for the whole Star Wars Outlaws thing, When I first saw the thumbnail, I did think "oh is this about the anti-woke stuff?" that was a definite implication I got from it, but I assumed that you were going to talk about something more important, because even though I am a casual viewer, anyone who has seen even a couple of your videos would know you are not in line with that kind of thinking, and in fairness you did address that the video was NOT about that. If you want input from a casual viewer, yes I did get an implication that you were going to talk about the anti-woke stuff, but I assumed you weren't going to give it any legitimate air time, and that there was an actual problem with the game. You said that there isn't this political tilt with your Halo criticisms that you experience when you criticize Star Wars, and to me that makes perfect sense, because as I am sure you know, Star Wars has been social and political commentary from its inception. George Lucas has been pretty clear what inspired him to make the rebels the good guys and what the Empire represented. I am not saying Halo isn't political or doesn't have effective social commentary, it does, but the overall story is not specifically rooted in that, where Star Wars has always had that edge to it. I am also not saying you have to be political to like Star Wars, or that liking Star Wars is taking a political stance, but I think that Star Wars will always carry that baggage with it, and people know this, even unconsciously, when they make commentary on the franchise. Seeing as Disney, a company that has been thrown (rightly or wrongly) into the political zeitgeist, now owns and makes Star Wars, an inherently political piece of media, definitely fuels the fire. You as a content creator around this media might have to remind people of this reality when they try to highjack this franchise for their camp's belief systems, I think this is where the magnifying glass focused on you, I don't even think it was about the clickbait, it was about the implication that you were going to take a proverbial "side" in this tug of war over Star Wars.

I do think you toe the line between clickable/clickbait, and that's a function of the KZfaq algorithm being what it is... I've never found your Star Wars opinions to be controversial or playing into the stupid culture war shit and I appreciate that. I think you're honest about what's good and honest about what isn't as good, and that is definitely a breath of fresh air, because often Star Wars discourse is just "omg it sucks because X person" and they refuse to watch with an open mind and would rather be angry. It's so tiring to be bombarded with those takes constantly, so I appreciate that you don't get into that.

My interest in Star Wars tends to fluxate. Sometimes, it's the coolest thing ever and gets all my attention. Sometimes, I kind of just ignore it. Regardless of my feelings towards it, you're the only Star Wars KZfaqr I consistently watch because (as you said) your videos feel like I'm just hanging out with my homie who is a giant Star Wars nerd. I really appreciate the authenticity you put into your videos and hope you never lose that. Ignore the hate brother!

Been here a long time. Live this channel! KEEP IT UP!

only concern for me personally is the pricing. and the fact that its gonna end up like most Ubisoft games, being painfully average. i badly want a good StarWars game

EckhartsLadder is one of the most differentiated KZfaq channel I know of.

I love your channel and your content. Takes a lot to admit mistakes. Haters gòna hate...

I get a running interfearence feeling from it.

Nah man you’re good. If someone expects a video to be something and it turns out to be something else, that’s speaks more on their assumptions than anything else. It wasn’t click baity. Keep your head up big dog you’re a great creator.

The criticism of the main character being ugly is wild. She looks exactly like an average woman from the late 1970s, which is the aesthetic Star Wars generally goes for. I remember the first time I saw her and was actually impressed that they made her look so authentically 1970s.

Your videos are never political. Your criticisms are always constructive in nature. You continue to do a great job.

My biggest problem is just the price man, jedi survivor was pricey and I had to wait for a sale but that was only like £60 on release....but £130???? Even on sale for 50% off it'll be expensive as fuck

You do a very good job and I think by and large make good videos. I think the image and name pick is like the cover of a book and may not represent what is in the video itself, hard to get right 100% of the time. Hang in there!