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Do you ever get to a point of just thinking "Nobody knows actually any thing and none of this even matters , we're screwed" That just happened for me. I'm so tired.

I just want to say that the people that actually “recover” from a childhood diagnosis of ADHD were misdiagnosed as a child. You don’t grow out of ADHD, you can figure out how to mask it or cope with it enough to pass, but we will always have ADHD. You can’t just become Neurotypical if you are Neurodivergent..

Quite honestly the overlap between all these mental health disorders makes me think just how much misdiagnosis occurs and diagnosis of many mental health disorders serves no benefit to the sufferer. Emotional dysregulation is a symptom of ADHD and borderline personality. Difficulty concentrating is a symptom of ADHD and depression. Fear of rejection and negative thoughts about yourself are a symptom of ADHD (Rejection sensitive dysphoria) and social anxiety. Asperger syndrome and ADHD both involve difficulty relating to other people and not fitting in right.

I don't have a hard time getting along with others, i have a hard time getting along with myself

something i've found that really sucks is that while treatments like DBT have helped me become "quiet", that really only means that my BPD barely affects anyone else. i still struggle and suffer a lot inside, and it feels like treatment had just been geared to make me beneficial to others. which is great and something i guess, but i wish it weren't talked about like things are good now, because they're absolutely not. they're just good for everyone else around me.

they lost me at the "recover from ADHD"

The idea of “everyone being on the spectrum of adhd at some point in their lives” is horrible coming from professionals...come on yes these are human behaviors but it’s about the fact that they cause serious problems in our lives if we actually have adhd

I think I never accepted my BPD diagnosis until recently because the BPD people I knew were suicidal, drug users, extremely angry and volatile. My traits are just more around fear of abandonment, identity issues, and anger, but I've learned to mask my symptoms for the most part to avoid abandonment.

I'm pretty sure i went from having normal borderline personality disorder to having quiet borderline personality disorder over the years. I used to lash out at people and was very toxic but now all of that toxicity is mostly aimed at myself through hurting myself or talking negatively about myself.

I think unidentified, untreated adhd as a child does not only turn to adult adhd but it is also highly likely to turn into BPD and the Dr. clearly explained one of the reason why, the trauma of rejection. I think it can hit harder on people who are naturally extroverts than introverts and not being able to be yourself around people because of your ADHD/BPD, the anxiety the you always carry within its extremely painful and exhausting and I think a teen or young adult ends up turning the anger inward or hating themselves for not being able to be themselves.

11:00 Finally I hear something about peers and bullies causing trauma. They always talk about parents being the source of the trauma.

I have been diagnosed with BPD and ADHD. I always resonated with Quiet BPD more than the DSM criteria of BPD.

not me just realizing that being constantly ignored and excluded from peers when i was younger can be considered trauma, god i love mu adhd

I feel like videos like these start to show how psychology still barely knows anything - esp with diagnosing... I wish we'd stop treating it like we know everything when it's still such a relatively new science and very little is known. We'd come a lot farther in treating and diagnosing mental health issues if professionals came from the stand point of not having it all figured out

Ummm...ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder. No. Most people are NOT on the spectrum. No. You don’t grow out of ADHD. That’s like saying you grow out of being an amputee. That’s not possible. You either do or don’t have it. Wow. This video was a nightmare to go through. The misinformation was ALARMING. I’m...wow.

“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams.

Here's a question - adhd or anxiety and depression? It seems like there's so much overlap. Both depression and anxiety can make it difficult to concentrate, stay organised, start and finish projects, daydreaming, fidgeting etc.

As someone who has been tossed both of these diagnoses, I'm very curious about this one.

Now Im confused if I have bpd, adhd or cptsd because I am victim of narcissistic abuse

info dump ramble here, to correct a lot of the adhd misinformation in this: a lot of people have mentioned this part already, but you can't "recover" from adhd, you can only manage it with medication, councilling, masking, and sometimes just age can decrease some symptoms, the same way you also can't often "develop" adhd. you're either born with it, because it's (as far as i remember) a genetic thing, or you can SOMETIMES get it from a traumatic brain injury. however, sometimes symptoms don't appear until before the age of 12, if that's what they mean.

Bullying is my most significant complex trauma. I feel so validated as someone with BPD. I love these videos so much! ❤️

You don’t recover from ADHD!! It’s a hereditary neurological disorder.

I was once accidentally diagnosed bpd/depressed… later got diagnosed with ADHD. Medication fixed things almost immediately lol

realizing all of the symptom overlap in addition with having multiple diagnoses almost feels counterproductive..i’m like ok HOW DO I TREAT THIS WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS INFO 😭

This is an older video so maybe no one will read this but here goes; I was diagnosed with bpd 6 years ago then ADD 3 years ago. I was also believed to have type two bipolar at some point. I'm a recovering alcoholic and bulimic too. Those were pretty spot on! The other diagnoses? Well, a few years back I just decided bollocks to whatever bit of alphabet soup you want to throw at me, ingoing to look at what my mind chatter says the most, how that chatter affects my life and go from there. I am affected massively by rejection and I believe myself to be unattractive and unworthy of love from the opposite sex. Whatever I have according to the DSM notwithstanding, these things affect me terribly. I then began an inward odyssey to understand WHY I fear rejection and see myself as ugly. I did this through counselling and a fucktonne of my own research and analysis. I journalled, I wrote poetry, I held a mirror up and took a long hard and often painful look at myself. And I didnt run away. I faced myself and my demons. I lost a lot of friends in the process but to be honest, you need to clear out your life wardrobe before you can get new shiny better fitting clothes. I don't give a shit what the professional types say I have. I'm not interested in propping up statistics or assisting big pharma in making even more money on drugs as a result of the DSM getting bigger as more mental health issues are invented. I wanted to know ME. The whys around why I was I was and the how's around how to heal. I'm still a work in progress and Lord knows I've stepped back as well as forwards on this journey. But I'm bloody well journeying. 😌 On my terms. Xx

Thank you MedCircle... Your videos have helped me SO MUCH with assisting my sibling through their BPD and Bipolar. When I am feeling overwhelmed, I come watch these videos. They are so good! Keep watching if you are feeling desperate. They have AMAZING videos.

Medcircle, can you consider doing a video on anger in depression vs. quiet BPD? I've struggled with anger for over a decade, and to me it's a key part of my quiet bpd. But for years I was misdiagnosed with depression, which can show anger symptoms. I wish there was more education out there about the difference so it could help more people recognize the symptoms.

You have no idea how much I needed this

You can also seem to suffer from quiet BPD if you're being abused, that's why I was misdiagnosed. DBT didn't help but all of the symptoms magically disappeared when I was out of the abusive relationship (except for the impulsiveness that comes from my ADHD and low self-esteem from depression). I wish therapists were more aware of that instead of throwing labels at people who are being systematically broken down day by day.

Since when does ADHD develop ? It's neurological structure... Not triggered psychological pathology ! My ADHD (+TSA) were there from birth, I didn't sleep right, already influenced by sensory hypersensitivity ! Depression showed up when I was expected to seat still and behave. So middle school. Psychological pathologies show once trauma, triggers, life events occur... Developing ADHD isn't an accepted concept, that would be neurological damages (accident, drug use etc...) mimicking ADHD but it wouldn't be called ADHD.

I’m 41 and was diagnosed when I was young with ADHD. I’ve never had anyone help guide me toward helping me get better. It was never enough information and medication. So I’m now finally finding the help I need and understanding how to apply it properly.

This is life-changing. I have diagnosed ADHD but it's the first time I hear about quiet bpd and it makes so much sense to me!

“keep it to themselves, suppress feelings of anger & withdraw while upset” doing all 3 now😂 it’s pretty tough having qbpd but glad to be in therapy. Thank you Dr Judy

I am a quiet borderline and have always wondered if I had adhd or a form of it. This is interesting!

This was the first video I've seen with Dr Judy Ho and I thoroughly enjoyed her exceptional input and insights that taught me a lot. Thank you both - particularly for your question at 15:50 and Dr Ho, for your response to it. This stigma is so destructive (and rampant within the Healthcare profession itself) so we really do appreciate any professional's input that may hopefully assist in dismantling it. I look forward to more interviews with Dr. Ho. Thank you again.

I have BPD. My partner has ADHD. We love each other intensely--it's the best relationship I've ever had, and he says the same--though it can be distracting for both of us. I'm trying to understand him better, and in the process am learning a lot about myself. Thank you for helping!

I don't feel like this video actually explained the differences between the two :(

Excellent video! Glad I caught it live! Thanks for the chat guys! 😁

You really see the difference between ADHD and BPD mainly in intimate relationships, in BPD you'll see these things specifically: splitting, push pull dynamic, the devaluation cycle, triangulation, projective identifcation and acting out based on that projection causing confusion in the partner or close friend, abandonment fear, 'hoovering', making false claims against partner i.e. character assasination. There's also the high level of suicidality, of the 'cry for help' or even revenge type in terms of blaming others for suicidal behaviour. There's also the issues with a core narcissistic wound. Overall these are things not usually associated with ADHD but with BPD. Because just about all of these behaviours are aimed only at their closest partners, or an FP {favourite person} other people may not see any of this and presume the partner in fact lying or being manipulative when they talk about the person with BPDs behaviours, as is seen a lot in 'quiet BPD' it just being hidden from most people. Whereas a person with ADHD's symptoms will be seen more easily by multiple people over time, such as lateness and distraction etc etc if they aren't good at masking their behaviours. Frankly it's only the surface level symptoms that are similar, yet in the specific example between rejection sensitivity in BPD and ADHD, although at first seems similar the degree is more extreme in BPD. I'm also talking about adults with these disorders as both the disorders present differently in children and to a different degree. So it wouldn't be right to measure adult BPD for example against childhood ADHD symptoms or vice versa.

Kyle, thank you for shining the light on BPD. Just for clarity: you don’t ‘get’ BPD or ADhD. You ‘have’ it or ‘suffer from’ it or ‘live with’ it Important distinction!

As a neurodevelopmental condition, you don't "recover" from ADHD. A treatment of symptoms is not a recovery. You can't develop ADHD as an adult either for the same reason. On the contrary, you HAVE to develop a personality disorder in adulthood, which is not neurodevelopmental (at least until further research). ADHD is not a psychological condition, holy heck. The fact that you got this well-known fact wrong worries me about the information you're spreading, no matter how good your intentions.

I would like to affirm the comment that was made about people recovering from BPD. Many people think you have BPD your entire life, but I am proof that like other disorders, you can recover and go on to live a more "normal" life. Thank you for saying that !

genuinely thank you for this

I met a girl with BPD once before being in any kind of mental health treatment program and it is very interesting to look back onto that experience knowing what I know now: that I have ADHD. I think she was one of the reasons I started looking more into BPD and essentially thinking I’ve had it before meeting my therapist who was like “heck no, you don’t have that!” and being diagnosed with ADHD (my second suspicion) about 6 months later, hahaha.

I want to comment regarding The “emerging” of ADHD. With ADHD, there are strong evidence that many are hereditary. I don’t know the exact breakdown between hereditary v “emerging” but it’s fairly high probability that when a parent or parents have them, their offspring will have adhd. And bpd based on my experience is more likely developed due to past events. Where higher probable that it’s “emerged”. I likely have both.

this stuff is so important you guys are helping so many people thank you thank you thank you !

This was exactly the information I needed. Thank you so much.

Minus my abandonment issues, the root of my pervasive traumas comes from my experiences in school as someone with undiagnosed ADHD. And not just in school, this sense of rejection and "otherness" continued into the workplace in adulthood. I wasn't dx w ADHD until my mid 30s. The potential BPD, however, was recognized in my teens. I feel pretty certain had I been dx and treated for my ADHD *much* sooner in life, I may have avoided other mental health issues altogether. Instead, I'm a bundle of them. :/ I feel there's way too much concentration on the potential issues in one's home/family life, which misses the fact that for the first 12ish years of our life we're at school just as often as we're at home/with family. Obviously what happens at school has a HUGE impact, regardless of our family/home life.

I'm autistic/ADHD and honestly I can't see how this is any different from ASD level 1 which commonly co-occurs with ADHD (neurodiversity is a spectrum). Prolonged autistic masking causes a fractured sense of identity, imposter syndrome, and frequent burnout from disregulation.

I need to see the adult ADHD. Had rough childhood, got diagnosed as adult I'm still trying to figure which meds are best. I'm 32. My dad has ADHD, my mom does too but the attention part like me. It affects my whole life.. Every day. Thank you so much for these videos. Your so right about self esteem and school wow..that was me.

If you already know good basics about these conditions, have either bpd or adhd (or both) yourself or /really/ know a person and listened to them extensively, this video could be interesting to you because you can just skim over the misinformation. Other than that I feel like med circle really loves some degree of sensationalism of any mental health conditions and I'd rather suggest anyone seeking information to turn to other sources. We've reached a time where you can easily find a variety of sources from people explaining their own conditions better than any KZfaq "professional" can.

The lady in green made it sound as though people with insecure attachment style (anxious-preoccupied, fearful-avoidant, dismissive avoidant) would be on the spectrum of BPD. They are not. Should have been pointed out instead of... well basically blurred. It could cause a great deal of harm.

I'm in the overlap between ADHD and autism, as well as a variety of different physical challenges. What's odd, is I didn't have a lot of the things since childhood (other than having struggles with social aspects, situational mutism, and joint hypermobility), everything else either got worse, or started, in high school. It's very odd, and this is interesting. Thankfully GABA has been helping since my ADHD meds stopped helping, but it's odd how most of the traits you talked about here that I don't have, is stuff that my significant other struggles with. He just knows he has learning disability, and struggles with rejection. For me, dyslexia and ADHD run in my family, so I'm definitely neurodivergent in some way, but not sure exactly. I do know someone with BPD, and we've been having fun with fabric and sewing, which seems to help both of us.

Thank you because I struggle with something, always have but never fit into a category. Psychiatrists diagnosed me with depression and anxiety when I was a teenager, but since then through further symptoms, have said I'm not all the way BPD or ADHD or OCD yet I am in such turmoil. Thank you for sharing.

This video word for word describes all my struggles. Thanks so much.

this whole video just felt so......I would not trust any of these people to actually have any clue what my ADHD is like lol. idc if they're professionals. tf is "recover from ADHD"

I have cPTSD, ADHD-c, PDD (with bouts of “double depression”), and GAD. So many doctors just throw a BPD diagnosis at me because it is easier for them to do that than for them to look at how all of my diagnoses work together and the way they can seem to kind of present as something else when put together. BPD has never seemed to perfectly fit me, none of the types fully fit.. I was with a trauma trained, EMDR, Brainspotting therapist for SIX years and she has diagnosed me with these (ADHD was diagnosed at age 8 and was diagnosed with Depression and GAD for the majority of my life) I had a new therapist (now ex-therapist) for 16 months that kept getting actually upset with me for rejecting the idea that I could have BPD. She was mad that even though she wasn’t completely sure that I had BPD, I didn’t think I did and stood by my diagnoses.. she actually yelled at me during our last session together while I was crying because she was yelling at me for no appropriate reason. I had a psychiatrist at the hospital I was admitted to after my first, and only, suicide attempt (age 24) try to diagnose me with BPD while I was still incoherent and told my family that my attempt was “just for attention.” Unfortunately, my father still thinks that my attempt was only for attention because of this asshat doctor and he continues to completely invalidate my traumas, pain, and life struggles. I love how people are so quick to diagnose someone. I spent SIX YEARS with my therapist tracking all of my moods, multiple traumas, and trying to properly diagnose me with diagnoses that fit me and I don’t think other professionals should throw all of that away because they think they know better when they don’t.. You don’t need to re-diagnose every patient that is new to you. I’m not a passport that needs every professional to put their own diagnosis stamp on me. 🙄😒

I was diagnosed with ADD in grade 2 and I didn't have depression or anxiety then. My teacher said I was a "daydreamer" and I spent a lot of time working in a special room without my classmates. I was diagnosed again in college. Today I feel like my ADD is more impactful than ever and im 41 years old. I was also diagnosed with a-typical depression 5 years ago. What I notice the most is my constant need for new stimuli and a very poor working memory. I'm also constantly multitasking (like watching a movie while on my phone while eating while vaping with 3 different drinks in front of me) I have no issues relating to people, in fact I feel like I understand my friends better than they understand themselves. Sometimes this makes me enjoy people less though because it's like I feel they should be more self aware, which isn't fair because being self aware (and for me highly self critical) is not something everyone is good at. I also believe this is a big part of why I deal with depression.

Very interesting! I have been diagnosed with BPD and looked for suitable therapy. After years of therapy I barely struggeled with a lot of BPD symptoms anymore, altought the impulsive behavior, substance abuse, boredom, and some of the moodswings due to overstimulation still stayed. Since a year I have also been diagnosed with adhd. Turns out thats why a part of the symptoms of BPD stayed after all those years of therapy. It makes so much sense to see the connections between ADHD and BPD. I Always was an outcast and being bullied (probably because of ADHD "weirdness") and it really shaped my identity to the point where I developed BPD. Thank you for the clear video, I think its helping a lot of people to understand themself or their loved ones who struggle

Overlap is a word I hear more and more and I begin to wonder how accurate it is to expect clear delineations when diagnosing? I keep hearing the same terminology used with varying disorders and the mention of comorbidities. I am very late diagnosed ASD that learned to camouflage traits early on as self defense. I also grew up in a household of neglect, drugs, alcohol, emotional abuse, violence and invalidation. At this point I'd say CPTSD is a significant factor in my difficulties as well traits bearing a striking resemblance to Quiet BPD. I never hear anyone making the connection between ASD with CPTSD and BPD but I wonder. Both ASD and BPD have indications of genetic origins and both are inclined to have elements of trauma induced symptoms. With many women with ASD being undiagnosed due to a greater capacity to camouflage their traits and more women being diagnosed with BPD than men, perhaps there is a closer connection between ASD/CPTSD and BPD than recognized?

Wow MedCircle is really zoning in on BPD it seems...

This video was really helpful and interesting! Thank you :)

I was diagnosed with adhd when I was a kid but never got treatment for it. I recently also received my BPD diagnosis and my therapist agrees that it’s “Quiet BPD” although that’s not a formal diagnosis I’m the DSM-V. I’m glad this video exists because everything kinda makes sense.

These videos are so useful.. I am 38 and feel like I am finally becoming self-aware. So many things I thought were justified, normal and that other people don't get it - actually now I see it.. I think I have borderline traits for sure and these have affected my life in many ways.

I am one of those “highly psychologically skilled” BPD sufferers mentioned at ~14:45. Only because like the doctor says, I have done so much research and work on myself. (Also I am super super tuned-in to others around me.)

Gona come back tk this another day. Talking about relationships growing up and becoming more self aware in older age really hit hard

This video is so helpful and illuminating for me.. thanks Medcircle!

As a person who has been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder I also recognize from my own childhood some of the symptoms of autism so I greatly appreciate this information and I am going to mention about my childhood activities as far as not being able to pay attention always pay more time with my special ed teacher and doing stuff at her classroom and just not being able to focus I’m gonna share with my therapist and there are more things but it would take too much to list them here right now also I have been diagnosed with bipolar to PTSD generalized anxiety disorder and then just recently completely diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder as well I know it’s a half a march podge of problems that sometimes it’s very hard to deal with so it’s a day-to-day struggle

I happen to have both. My psychiatrist was very surprised. I was diagnosed with "quiet" bpd and then only years later I got diagnosed with adhd. Let's just say a lot of things started making sense after this point.

I am in the progress to finding out but I feel like you are talking about my life! I would love to see more!! Thank you!!!!!!!!

FINALLY I have a term for my form of BPD! I feel so validated.

Both were discussed for me - but complex PTSD fit better and treatment for this is working. I’ve heard that CPTSD and quiet BPD are often related though.

Friendly note that “quiet BPD” is often actually ASD. Not even most psychologists are familiar with the full breadth of presentations of ASD. Many autistic women are diagnosed with BPD and/or bipolar before being diagnosed with ASD. ADHD is a common misdiagnosis or codiagnosis for autistics as well.

this the question i’ve been asking myself everyday omgggg

This is the perfect video for my sitiation!!!! I was diagnosed quiet BPD 4 years ago but I have WAYYY too many symptoms of adult ADHD as well….

ADHD is in my family, and we all have different personalities and symptoms. It's built-in but environment and upbringing are a huge factor.

I tend to direct the anger to myself and bottled up emotional pain, self harm is like past the boiling point last resort of release and relief cus crying doesn't always release it all. I also exhibit empathic tendencies as well. I feel others pain and take it in as my own, sometimes to the point where I can't tell if it's someone else's pain or my own until I am away from that person. I always felt alone around people most likely stemming from my parents neglect and concern for my well being. I felt alienated for the way I thought and processed information, lead poisoning didn't help matters much. I was always very different from my peers. Like my eyes were open and my reciever was on. I saw thru ppls lies but didn't call them out. I grew up with a narsisist alcoholic mother who was sexually abused n her childhood and My dad was a womanizer but also a victim of abuse and neglect from his adopted parents. He wasn't really in my life. Rolling stone and all.. My family wasn't familiar with mental illness and so they ignored it if it wasn't physically visible. When I exhibited signs of bipolar disorder and silent bpd, ptsd and lead poisoning, they didn't connect my behaviors to mental or psychological disorders. They did take me to doctor appts for the lead poisoning but didn't think of how much damage it caused me. As I ended up in special help classes cus I didn't pay attention in class. I would sit and draw and tune out. Or stare outside wishing I could fly like a bird to get away. I'd daydream n class and my grades would turn out low but testing scores were pretty high in some subjects. Had my first mental break down at age 20. It felt like I had split into 4 personalities whilst dealing with an abusive spouse. Somehow without the help of doctors I figured a way to piece myself back together again enough to pass as normal. But my extreme highs and lows became more frequent than monthly ascension/descent. And the crashes were bad. I'd be in bed almost life less for 3 days before normalizing. My ex would call me all sorts of names especially lazy. Then tell his friends how horrible I was and to keep an eye on me. He even had his friends 'befriend' me so he could get information out of me thru him. He gaslighted me every chance he could made life a living hell, that's when I developed self harming cus I couldn't hold my emotions in. I would how screaming bouts and punch walls, slam my head into a wall anything to leave this world. I tried different methods and each time ended up in hospital in psyche ward. I was labeled crazy by my ex and his military peers. I experienced every form of abuse and neglect there is. Enough to want to be alone for the rest of my life. Eventually I got out and away from him. With that chimpanzee off my back. I decided to get into holistic self healing. Soo i basically acted as my own doctor/shaman. I put myself thru vigorous meditations and went thru a 21 day Raw fruit and veggie diet to detox, used thc/cbd and psychedelic mushrooms to help me thru the real tough areas. Shifted my perception and grew stronger. I was determined to help myself cus I knew noone else would. I have had to learn how to deal with so much in such a little time whilst exhibiting strong psychological and emotional disorders and empathy.... life is no picnic or walk in the park. Heheh. If I could share any positive words here, i would encourage anyone who is reading this, who is going thru and/or has gone thru so much turmoil in your life, change only begins with u. Noone knows u like u do. Not doctors. Not friends. Not family. Don't let anyone dictate who u r. Take constructive criticism from ppl who are concerned but ignore the criticism that tears u down. You have to be your own hero. You have to be your own savior. U have to trust in yourself because at the end of the day, You are all you have. Peace be with You All! May you find your light and let it shine, you are worth saving!

Soooo good!!!!!! Sooo true. My Mother and I BOD. Me quiet. It really is on the inside and often I feel like I know how I should be acting and so I do but until I learned my true soul retrieval often it was just acting . So I was “ like” living. And since we don’t have heartfelt relationships in this society, who knew. I am also a very honest and caring person so I used that for others but was not helping me internally. We relate to our children internally and I am going to say how proud I am of my psychologist daughter. She can’t help but open my heart!

I have ptsd and adhd. My ptsd was mostly resolved a couple decades ago. But, my challenges with focusing on boring things like movies and shows that require sitting still and not being actively, physically engaged, and my need to be actively moving all day and night (even in bed before sleeping) still remain. I became a dancer to fulfill my need for creative movement. And I still have sensory processing disorder and auditory processing disorder (I was a premature twin with birth distress, and we both have very clear adhd). I was also born with physical defects. And the trauma was caused by extreme childhood trauma. I actually have secure attachment because I had positive relationships as an adult, from my earliest adulthood. I don't even understand how this quiet bpd thing relates to the actual adhd issues of focusing on boring mental content, and the constant high activity levels that also cause the issues with executive dysfunction. People with adhd can have unique social issues, but we are also generally social butterflies that connect with a lot of people.

This was my partner, to many accident to count( big life threatening). No one would listen. Stratera helped the ADHD and OCD but could. Not afford it long term. Every one thought it was dementia, but scans were not really show this at 76 only mild cognitive decline. She ended her life. She had poor interpersonal relation. Thanks for this, she is gone. Closure after 24 years.

I'd really like to hear about the differences between these two disorders, please. I really relate to ADHD and so much of my past and childhood and past makes sense now.

Good and easy information. Also knowing that DBT therapy is the recommended treatment. Thank you.

Dr Judy is fierce. I love that she’s a really intelligent and articulate person but then she’s rocking the green hair extension and she’s like all glammed up. I love that combination 🖤

I usually am quiet with my BPD but there are times when I lash out in an extreme way. To the point where I’ve quit jobs on the spot; been through a lot of jobs. This year has been the worst actually. I’ve lashed out angrily at my manager at work, kicked a hole in the wall at my laundromat because the machine ate my money, been rude to late bus drivers. I feel a little out of control with my emotions and I now am certain that I am the problem. I’ve always thought it was other people causing me to react but I am the only person responsible for my reactions. I’m sure I have adhd as well. I haven’t had stable relationships. I would break up constantly and then get back together. Every single relationship is like that. I go through valuing and devaluing my lovers and it makes me confused as to why I do what I do. It sucks but I’m trying to change. It super hard.

i need this nowwww 🥺

i must have add. i cant concentrate on this video. going in and out. ill listen again. love ya Kyle. is there some way you can fix the echo in your room. its hard for me to listen to. thanks 🙏

I have clearly suffered with BPD as a teen yet it took until this summer to give me a diagnosis. I’m 52!

Not everything is a personality disorder, there are quite a few undiagnosed adult autistics walking around that present as problematic to the neurologically normal - especially therapists. In the US, therapists have nearly no idea how high functioning autistics present or why autism characteristics cause severe problems for those that have it. I would go even further and point out that therapists do autistics no favor when they use DBT to teach them to try and mask harder and better. I understand your funding comes from a group that is financially vested in personality disorders, but you could do yourself and your viewers a big favor by becoming more literate about autism and how it is Not a disordered personality and the symptoms can’t be fixed, but it can be understood and coped with. Knowledge about adult autism is a HUGE gap amongst the American therapeutic community, there’s no reason for them or their patients to have to bang their heads on a wall that cannot yield. The Brits and the Aussies both have functioning health care communities to assist autistic adults, take a look and start learning from them.

This is me. I was a mess in school, didn’t get help. I went to 13 different schools and I think it compounded my situation. I thought I was stupid and tried to hide that I was stupid. I was bullied, rejected and got to to fights that I didn’t want. People think I’m really nice but there’s a lot of self hatred.

An adult here with adhd with treatment for 15 years and now with bpd thank you this was rly helpful damn. I need therapy!

Thank you so much🙏

Its 3am, commenting with the hope someone likes so i remember to watch it later

At a certain point, it doesn’t matter which or any condition that you have. Stop trying to categorize everyone so much. The definitions of each condition is changing all the time, so at a certain point a diagnosis is harmful because you shoe horn someone into ADHD or BPD. You can restrict a patient to certain treatments that aren’t appropriate. To anyone with ADHD/BPD, yes, absolutely still go get help. But don’t be afraid if your symptoms don’t exactly fit the DSM

I suffered my impoverished life with high cortisol levels, adrenal fatigue resulting in hypertension. After 6 months of extensive testing my ex ASD, ADHD & PTSD. I started Ritalin and my life changed. MY BLOOD PRESSURE WENT DOWN! It went down so low I had to get off one of my blood pressure meds and it consistently stays about 102 over 70, ON RITALIN up to three times a day. With ritalin my blood pressure has been as low as 98 over 65. It seems that I was chemically compensating by stressing myself out just so I can function. I'm at the lowest dose of Ritalin but I may need to titrate up a little bit. My sleep is heavenly I can keep to a schedule but I'm pretty scattered only difference is, I notice it

the rates are different in childhood add n adulthood add not because one grows out of add, but because so many of us adults are not diagnosed as a child, and so called specialist dont know what they are talking about, so misdiagnose it as a personality disorder. and when they misdiagnose you with something, they dont want to admit that they were wrong, so they refuse to test you for add, even when they know you have symptoms of add, and even when confronted with evidence.

Had 12 years of BPD therapy after unaliving atemptS (plural), it left me confused and feeling uniquely unhelpable. FINALLY an autism assessment was suggested and I didn’t know much about it but turns out I was ASD level 2 and ADHD inattentive. I was even out of place in the world of MH, I could not wrap my head around the concepts being discussed and genuinely perplexed as to why my MH peers were so upset all the time lol. But I felt even more hopeless because what do you do if the help isn’t helping and so I’d attempt unaliving again (which since I cannot even do grocery shopping effectively, I was unsurprisingly not very successful 😂) which led to a cycle reinforcing the diagnosis and more baffling treatment regimes. Professionals told me I wasn’t working hard enough and told me I was intentionally screwing it up in order to avoid abandonment from the clinician when in fact I had no strong feelings on the prospect either way.

My response to this was OMG...she just described and summed up my entire life! The shame, the fear, everything. The bad part is I just happen to be unfortunate enough to be in a family and life where there is a lot of dysfunctions and most people are shitty enough to stop talking to me and write me off forever! To me, the fear is real and not imagined. Just a matter of time.

This is why people like us were isolated and put in instutions back in the day. It seams to me our knowledge and empathy regarding mental health disorders has gooten better but the problem remains so complex and misunderstood that misdiagnosis is more likely than not. I have been diagnosed and misdiagnosed over many years. Been on bipolar meds, antidepressants, antianxiety, anti-phicotics, adhd meds. Spent time in impatient treatment for substance abuse(co morbidity). I currently take nothing to help with symptoms and in many ways feel better though i still suffer from symptoms that i cant even explain at times. It sucks. Hats off to all those who wonder through the hell of the mind. It is literally hell that no one can understand without suffering themselves.To understand and help someone who suffers from the dark corners of the mind is a challenge in and of itself.