Yep I think people spoilt brats just see themselves in Rhaenyra which is why theres an influx of these people everywhere

My God you summed it up perfectly!!!

Alicent is just the superior woman. Simple as. No bastards sprung from her womb. Cant say the same for little miss princess.😂

@@dickonmanwoody7599 correct

Totally

Um...Daenerys Stormborn isn't a bastard. And yes, I fault Rhaenyra for continuing to sleep with Ser Harwin Strong. I understand that she had an open marriage with Laenor, and the fact that he's gay makes it obvious that they can't have sexual relations. But if she really loved Daemon as much as she thought she did, she wouldn't have slept with Ser Cole or Ser Harwin. Yes, her sons are bastards, but that isn't their fault and it wasn't their choice. The question of their legitimacy is valid, but the question of hers isn't. She had been given the title of heir. If the so called honor and duty that Alicent talked about was to be upheld, then in my opinion Daemon should be renamed heir, and then one of his daughters as the next heir. I am leaving Aemond out because I can clearly see the early warning signs of Mania. Now a bloodbath, in relation to Daemon at war and Rhaenyra entering the camp bloodied aren't signs of Mania. Their entrances and actions were testimonies to their rebellion against the status quo and the judgements of who people have made them out to be. In addition, Aemond shouldn't have claimed Laena's dragon at the funeral, his timing couldn't be any worse. It shows how insensitive he was to Daemon and his daughters. Him responding to her cries was an amazing thing and it shows how attuned to dragons he is, but that's just it. He could've comforted the dragon without claiming her. You cant tell me it wouldn't have worked. I do not believe that Rhaenyra and Laena's children ganging up on him was out of jealousy, maybe a bit, but I'm sure they saw his claiming the dragon as a slap to the face. It was disrespectful at the time he did it to the girls' mother and ss I stated earlier on, insensitive. Lycerion using a weapon was too far and he should have been punished. By whipping, caning, whatever means, but I do not agree with Alicent's demand for his eye in return. Her demand makes her as childish as Lycerion, and her taking the King's dagger to try to get it makes her petty. However, one should take into account how Aemond and Aemon, even Ser Cole have treated Rhaenyra's sons : one can only take so much verbal abuse.

@@feyaeoli1994I think he’s talking about the “Baratheon Kids”.

Aemond had every right to claim the dragon. Two little girls being sad has no bearing on that. Luc and Jace were in the the wrong seeing as they were in the best position to de escalate instead decided to maim their uncle over an insult. Jace only pulled the knife out when the term bastards was spoken. They act like their mother in the way that no one matters but them. Viserys has always allowed them to act this way

​@@JessicaCarey-xi9wx 100%.

@@feyaeoli1994they were talking about Cersei’s bastards, not Dany

Yep, 100%

Put loudly to question*****

There’s a difference between intending to do something and actively doing something. Pointing the finger at Rhaenyra’s intentions will never excuse Alicent’s actions 🤷‍♂️

​@@Binks129 lol really? Luc would be alive if there were some punishment given.

@@michaelnkomphela8231 Luc would be alive if Aemond didn’t kill him “It’s ok mother, I may have lost an eye, but I gained a dragon” 10 years later… “GIVE ME YOUR EYE BASTARD!!!!”

It just goes to show the state of modern culture lmao.

​@@MungoMcGheeThat is so true.

​@@MungoMcGheeshows like this actually reveals the state of the how modern people think and it's so stupid. If this show we're to come out earlier in time I'm talking decade's the blacks would have very little supporters the value system of people have gotten progressively more fucked as it goes on

100% I was shocked to hear anyone talking shit about Aemond. He got his fucking eye ripped out by kids that had bullied him as a child. That's fucking appalling. Alicent is the GOAT for trying to defend her child after Viserys was such a weak doormat. I can't wait for Rhaenyra to get eaten by Sunfyre. She deserves to be dragon shit, just like Lucerys, she wanted to torture Aemond for telling the truth

Well said. I agree TB are just emotional with no logic. When watching shows like Hotd you can’t use modern logic to justify things that are clearly wrong in their world.

Not really. It’s fine he claimed the dragon. That’s the only fine thing in this whole situation. Aemond threatened Jace i think with the rock. And mocked their dead father(the real one). Idk if i laughed at your dead father would you say i did “nothing wrong”He could have kept his mouth shut and gotten away with it. But he chose the pride way. He had it coming 100%.

@@aleksandarpenchev7807 That was Luce, not Jace. And he did not laugh at their father, he merely stated the truth in what happened. I'm sorry if ppl like u think honesty is the worst medicine. He never mocked their father, he did mock Daemon's daughters. That's about it.

True. Aemond is innocent.

How the fuck does he just get to steal their mothers dragon. Ridiculous. Aegon the uncrowned got Aeny I’s quicksilver passed down to him.

@@stantheman2756 dragons choose their own riders

Spot on

I think is more that people are putting there own moral on the characters and not comprehending the consequences of Rhaenyra actions. Book reader who know the lore have a clear understanding in how the world works and some people that watched the show do not. I notice people say why Alicent is so paranoid that Rhea will kill her kids because there is no insinuation that she would ignoring the fact that the option is with in the realm of possibility in this world. Anybody would be paranoid.

This show has exposed that the fanbase lacks critical thinking skills and literacy analysis because they think every piece of media is a fucking marvel movie

The timing wasn't wrong at all. People would quickly scream out Aemond's act as inappropriate while they ignore Rhaenyra having intimate acts with the deceased's late husband right after her funeral.

@@ds_3487 100 percent accurate. im sure those kids were more hurt by their parents moving on so quickly after the deaths of laenor and Laena (and harwin!) in the span of a week than they were about the dragon.

Son todos una panda de asquerosos y traidores verdes....

I was thinking this! What do they want? Vahgar to sit in field waiting for that little girl to learn the language that is so selfish. Imagine throwing your dog into the wild for months or years waiting for your daughter be responsible enough to own it when a family and a child right there is ready and capable to care for them? Like anyone on team black because aemond claimed vaghar is delusional

@@Shenanakins Facts. They got married very quickly and unceremoniously as well.

Yes I lost an 👁 eye, also lost depth perception and my job. So yea since I can run to the pharmacy for pain , sure Aemond could not.

​@@michaelnkomphela8231The only pain meds they really have in this time is milk of the poppy, but that's insanely addictive so it makes sense why he would not want to begin taking said drug at the age of 10.

Also, Aemond’s pain and spasms were probably worse than what we see today because it’s not like he can run to the ER or a CVS to get disinfectant or Ibuprofen. We’re talking about the same world where women can’t survive a C-section.

We think very similarly!

I agree!!! Wait for Dearon, he was the most honorable from the both sides,humble,wise and a great leader! I'm fearing the showrunners will cut Dearon out because he is the most likeable character in the whole eries and a lot of people'd side with the greens

@@azmariakarol2225 Don’t worry, George R R Martin confirmed on his blog that Daeron will be featured.

@@azmariakarol2225 they did cut him out. They are just gonna lazily add him to the second season

The same. I believe true villain here is Viserys.

That’s wild sadistic against a child

@@johnredden743i think I have used some strong language, sorry for that. I think I have became quite attached with Aemond's character.

They will pay for it eventually. Strong bastards . Aemond will have his revenge .# team green

So we not gonna pretend and act like he didn’t try to kill one of his nephews in that fight and that’s why his eye got cut

@@jamalfields3524 Ffs, get a life. Aemond wasn't the wrong one here, they also tried to kill him.

I'm a borderline black but the twitter fandom genuinely disgusts and shocks me with some of the things they say. They're black fanatics and I have no idea how that happens. Aemond I personally see like a psychopath, like I see Daemon. If Viserys actually dealt with the situation properly then Aemond would have probably turned out fine. But I agree with you, after reading what they say Aemond would be cheered if he was a black.

@@HMSBreadnought I couldn't agree more, bro! Recently I've seen some posts on social media about s2 starting with blood&cheese and people in the comments were genuinely happy and cheering for... murder of an innocent child and poor Helaena being traumatized. WTF?

@@Skrzacik That's definitely what shocked me the most. Blood & Cheese is like The Red Wedding of this series, and they're cheering?

@@Skrzacik these are not fans they are black fanatics. We as book readers knows the reality of the story .but these are people who watched some KZfaq short and starts arguing on the social media

​@@HMSBreadnought Aemond seems to have created a Fandom. Frankly without him I won't watch HOTD I am now and forever team green

So we not gonna pretend and act like he didn’t try to kill one of his nephews in that fight and that’s why his eye got cut he didn’t have to pick up that rock and try to kill one of his cousins like stop

@@jamalfields3524 Nope because he did not, he literally was about to put the stone down in what was clearly a warning, just a warning and then Jacaerys proceeded to try and KILL Aemond with a freaking knife forcing Aemond to keep the stone as a weapon. Bruh, sometimes it feels like people watch different shows with ignorant comments like these. Watch the scene again.

@@stopthecap6913 ummm no he called his nephew a bastard than tried to take his life with that rock so stop it. And even so aemond still picked up a weapon first if he would of never did that shit wouldn’t have escalated. Maybe ur brain failed to see that part or maybe ur just to arrogant to agree. Now anything else why I’m here ?

@@jamalfields3524 So what if he called them bastards? They are bastards and Aemond having to use the stone was self-defense, they literally piled on him, wtf was he suppose to do according to you? Let them beat him to death on the ground?

@@darn4285 my thing is he beat all of them so why when it’s over still proceeds to threaten his nephew life and try to kill him when he won the fight and shoulda just walked.

Nah he stole their mothers dragon. Unreal that y’all are cool with this 😂 don’t say shit about dragons choosing their riders. That was their mothers dragon meant for her daughter and that little scumbag stole the glorious dragon cuz he didn’t have one. How shameful.

But it wasn’t aemond fault that Luke died it. Literally was down to their dragons once again, dragons bond with people, but they are not bound to do what they are say all the time they make a decision to listen and if they decide not to dragons have their own free will and vygahr is a war dragon and a baby dragon decided to test her and she was like oh I’m gonna eat this little shit cause that’s how dragons think they are animals in the one of the very first episodes visarys tells Ryneraha dragons can be trained, but never themed. They are animals. They are beast, and they will react according to that yes the bond most of the time they listen, but not always she is a war dragon getting attacked by Lil Baby dragon he was ordering her to stop multiple times, but she was not listening Neither of their dragons were listening to their rider They were purely going on instinct.

@@tasiaa2711 I’m aware of how the dragons operate that’s not what I was getting at. Aemond had a choice, let Luke go and claim the small victory he already had when he asked for the woman’s hand in marriage (I forgot what the name was) and then leave it at that. But, because he still wanted payback for his eye he acted reckless. Even if he chases Luke just to scare him the end result would’ve been the same because like you said, Luke’s dragon was a baby it didn’t know any better and was trying to protect its rider.

He actually made the first threat with the rock, then made a joke of how their real father died(they know who he is and that they're bastards) and insulted them repeatedly while being outnumbered. Also almost every time words come before physical violence, so yeah. He made a very stupid mistake by challenging them 4v1 in the first place, he could have avoided it. "Aemond did nothing wrong!" - is complete bullshit. Im sorry, but it is. He did plenty wrong there. You just see the price he paid for his arrogance and justify it by the outcome.

@@aleksandarpenchev7807 Nah, that threat was after they kept beating him to death on the ground. So it was justifiable but u r right about him keeping on bullying them about their bastard status, that he had coming. Although it is still the truth, not his fault the bastards are salty about being bastards.

@@aleksandarpenchev7807 They are bastards, he was not wrong for saying it, he just said it in the worst circumstances. So yeah, he had it coming but that doesn't mean he was entirely wrong.

@@stopthecap6913 My point was that it does matter who picks up a weapon first, it shows what your intentions are. He had no intent to kill any of them in my opinion, but it’s what they understood from it, and thus….the knife.

@@darn4285 Right and wrong are too narrow to have a conversation about. It’s more nuanced than this. I never said he was entirely wrong. He’s a kid ffs.

@@Lafawnduhs Daemon is a dead man too. Ameond was so badass that even The rogue prince could stop him without sacrificing himself and Meraxes as well.

​@@pedrofernandes2466caraxes

​@@pedrofernandes2466Caraxes

Had the showrunners not been so Pro Team Black, they wouldn't have made Aegon a rapist and a supporter of child fighting pits, which is not true in the books. They just don't want anyone to support Aegon, but he's the rightful heir. I don't give a fuck who does what. They're all as bad as each other. I care about the laws and customs of Westeros. Firstborn son of a man is his heir (except in Dorne). End of.

​@@bubblewrapstargirlTrue. They better redeem them this season. They even had to mess up the coronation which is the first main time the greens are shown in a positive light. But I guess they didn't want Aegon to have his moment

What are you looking forward to without big spoilers pls

@@Aemond2024 payback for that eye he took

@@Aemond2024 The beginning of the dance of the dragons too

​@@sunnyboyjr2611That would be episode 10

Viserys had all the lord swear fealty to Rhaenyra tho. So those who later supported Aegon II are guilty of high treason.

@@stantheman2756 you know the Lords of the realm won't give a fuck about a swear when the heir to the throne is trying to incite a war of succession by having bastard heirs of her own, it was either war now or war later.

I mean you can. But you basically have to then be an extremely competent ruler/politician and not think that dragon = I can do whatever I want

@@stantheman2756 Those lords swore those oaths before Aegon was born, and most of them are dead now. As Jon told Daenerys in their first meeting "I am not beholding to my ancestors oaths."

Even if Rhaenyra had become queen without issue, there would still be a Dance of Dragons. Rhaenyra's sons are divided between the "Strong Bastards" (her sons with Harwin) and "Trueborn Targaryens" (her sons with Daemon). Sooner or later, the realm would have divided into two factions anyway. Rhaenyra is the cataclyst of the Dance, not Aegon Il.

@@Lafawnduhs Aemond and Alys Rivers had a child. The author does not show in the books what was the boy's fate, but he was last seen alive.

Yes. The book is way more balanced than the show is for some reason.

That’s weird I thought the book was supposed to be written by the victors then show would present how it actually happened

@@jlall4467 team black wins

Right? Yay, he made his daughter his heir! …And then he married and forcibly impregnated her fifteen-year-old friend. Girl power?

@@edoboleyn blame otto for that

Did you even watch the fight. Lucerys pulled out the knife when aemond called them bastards and kept trying to stab him

Pretty big exceptions don’t you think. And the fact that they r doing a coup

Aegon is not a good king but he might be like robert baratheon. Leaving the ruling to his hand and his council while he whores and drinks away~ Book spoilers below!!! (For the end of the dance!) warning!! I havent read the books but i did read on the wiki a little on his rule after the dance that he was in constant terrible pain but did his best working with his council on his rule as he struggled with his injuries. RIP. He aint remembered as a good king though. Neither was rhaenerya.

They are nothing alike, don't compare charming and beautiful with old ,boring (Daemon).

got to be braindead to support that lot

Insult? He didn't insult them he told the truth. They started it .They attacked him first 4 of them attacked him and because he picked up the rock they intentionally targeted his eye it wasn't a mistake. What kind of boy cut out another person's eye

@@aishahamma334 You ignored everything I said, and just because you tell the truth doesn't mean it can't be weaponized. If you use the truth to hurt someone, then it counts as an insult.

​@@dranixrush3306If you really believe that they started it how can you say he had that knife coming. If they hadn't attacked him that wouldn't have happened in the first place. If.it was the other way around aemond had hurt Lucerys everyone will hate him. People even hate alicent because she tried to attack rhaenyra. Alicent had every right to be angry

@@aishahamma334 Your actions matter, even if you weren't the one who initiated it.

​@@dranixrush3306You're right actions does matter and the Strong boys proved that they're psychopaths. Who attacks someone with a knife over an insult and gouges their eye out. It maybe an insult but it's the truth and if they can't handle it that's their fault

He threatened them because they tried to slash him with a knife

@@jlall4467 no. Aemond picked up the rock first. And threatened to kill him. And the brother had the knife.

@@lemonadelemon1960 Aemond then put the stone down, then the brother first charged him with the knife because he called him a bastard

​@@jlall4467Why are you even saying this .He was attacked first 4v 1 that bastard literally came whit his own knife. Aemond was bullied for years

@@aishahamma334 I know, that’s what I said. maybe you accidentally replied to me because my profile has the same colour as the other person

how? they treated him like shit for years and wonder why hes messed up

That’s not something you leave off screen though. That has to be shown or else it makes Viserys look weak.

Agreed. Daemon and Princess Rhaenys are the only good people on team black. I can't stand any of Rhaenyra's kids. The Strong boys are insufferable little shits who die horribly in the war as they deserve.

bobby b is targaryen on his mothers side lmao

@@joetheblu3 Targ efforts to dilute the divine bloodline of the Durrandon didn’t work. Bobby B overcame his cursed targ heritage to destroy them, as the Seven intended.

@@nicknaylor9895 ok but hes still got their blood

@@joetheblu3 he was overall blood of the Durrandon

@@nicknaylor9895 yeah i know but it just funny when hes part targaryen

He wasn't it was a bluff you saw him lowering the rock. Contrary to popular belief he isn't stupid and he didn't want to be a kinslayer unfortunately his nephews didn't share the same reservations.

@@chrisanderson7258 y’all just yapping at this point 💀 retarded ass out of my replies

You are a special one. Everything you just said is nothing but lies.

No, stupid much?

In context he made fun of them the same way Jayce and Luke did. He also punched the younger one after he charged him. Tbh I can't blame him for how he acted years of being treated like shit by bastard children that are stealing the birthright of your side of the family. Then to see them try and defend their cousins they only knew for like a day.

In the books it clearly states he wouldn't be allowed near the dragon, hence why Aemond had to sneak in to the dragon pit the previous time. He also was only on Driftmark for the funeral, so he wouldn't have the opportunity to tame Vhagar again the day after. Also, you're right it may be improper to tame the deceased woman's dragon right after her funeral, but so was Rhaenyra hooking up with the widow of the deceased woman the night of her funeral as well.

@@meterod exactly my point he shouldn’t have been around vahgar to begin with. While I do see the point that dragons aren’t inherited, what I don’t understand is why he would think it’s OK for him to do that at the night of the funeral like there’s nothing wrong with that it was sneaky and underhanded and if he had any common courtesy he would’ve let his cousin have her try first even if it was just a gesture of condolences. Because it’s absolutely wrong that he didn’t give her that chance especially as “family”

@@meterod and ask for Reynera and Damon people express grief differently there are plenty of people that go out and have sex while they’re in grief plus they are two consenting adults that did so in privacy. It would be a different story if they just had sex in front of everyone right after the funeral that I would understand being improper or morally wrong but we don’t get to say what’s wrong or right with how people choose to grieve.

@@lizzystar5346 I listed numerous reasons why he did what he did, at the end of the day while it may be improper he wasn't close or friendly with that side of his "family" and dragons are fair game, so however "improper" it is, it isn't thieving.

@@lizzystar5346 Even in modern society it would be extremely inappropriate to hook up with the widow of someone the next of their funeral, it isn't "grieving" it was clearly Rhaenyra being lustful with no care about being unmarried or respect for Laena, so making a huge deal out of Aemond claiming Vhagar is hypocritical.

Dragons are not owned like dogs. Once their dragon rider is dead it's for everyone to try and ride it

The only part Aemond was in the wrong was instigating the fight by bullying his cousins and nephews, that's about it. Him claiming the dragon and having to fight back to survive was not wrong in the slightest, hell he was the only one who was deeply injured from that fight.

@@perce1veALL I didn’t say anything about him claiming the dragon, nor did u say he was wrong for defending himself. What I said was he was wrong for picking up a weapon first, and when the fight was over with proceeds to threaten his nephew life and almost did it.

@@jamalfields3524 What? He picked a weapon first, okay? Ur point is? Because as I've already said, these kids were trying to kill him, he only tried to kill them after they tried to kill him, is that not logical enough for u? Besides, he already hit one of them with the rock, clearly not with an intention of killing them but rather knocking them down, although Jace was actually trying to kill Aemond with the knife.

@@perce1veALL jace only pulled out the knife after aemond threatened the life of his brother and tried to do it. Even when aemond picked up the rock and was hitting all of them, jace still didn’t pull it out until he called his brother a bastard, threatened his life and tried to do it.

@@jamalfields3524 He threatened to take his life, he didn't try to actually take it because if he tried, he would not have put the stone down in that moment after saying it. Jace drew the knife despite the fact that Aemond was not actually trying to kill any of them. Some of what you are saying are facts but some are not at all, clearly you need to rewatch the scene, anything that Aemond did was reactive, not proactive. Additionally, he threw his young nephew away (the one he was grabbing by the neck) once he gave the threat bc if it was not a threat but instead an actual intention according u, he would have killed him already instead of letting him go. And stop with that calling out bastards point, they are literally bastards. It was wrong of Aemond to instigate the fight but he was also only telling the truth when he did so. Sure, Aemond was the first to pick up a weapon but he did not actually use the rock first, Jace was the first to strike with his weapon. Seriously, man. You are so wrong, it's hilarious. All u need is to watch the scene again.