AFM Delete GONE WRONG Part 4. Where is the Truck Now

AFM Delete GONE WRONG Part 4. Where is the Truck Now - Lessons Learned

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Well this took longer than expected. We finally have an update on my 2014 Silverado and how it is doing with the 2nd motor.
00:00 Welcome Back!
01:25 Flex Plate Issues
02:38 Better Way To Pull Engine
03:31 L83 Vs L86 Ported Heads
04:00 Fuel Injector Seals
04:48 Oil Pump Alignment Tools?
05:38 Harmonic Balancer Puller
06:10 More Loud Noises???
09:49 Exhaust Manifold Studs
10:38 First Start! (On video)
10:58 First Drive
12:17 6L90 Torque Converter Review
13:06 Future Upgrades & Plans
15:00 Stage 1 Cam Review
15:50 6000K Pull
16:28 Wrap Up
👉🏼 LINKS TO PURCHASE TOOLS & PARTS FEATURED BELOW👈🏼
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⚠️Try anything shown in this video at your own risk ⚠️
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Associated Videos - AFM DOD Delete Series
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Full DOD delete series below:
Part 1 - Baseline Dyno: • AFM Delete Part 1 - Wh...
Part 2 - What Parts Do You Need • AFM DOD Delete Part 2 ...
Part 3 - Engine Removal: • AFM DOD Delete Part 3 ...
Part 4 - Engine TearDown: • AFM DOD Delete Part 4 ...
Part 5 - Installing New Parts: • AFM DOD Delete Part 5 ...
5A - Cam Phaser Install: • AFM DOD Delete - How t...
5B - Trunnion Upgrade: • How To Upgrade GM Trun...
5C - Lashing HP Fuel Pump: • How To Properly Lash H...
5D - Injector Seals • High Pressure Fuel Inj...
Part 6 - Reinstalling Engine: • AFM DOD Delete Part 6 ...
Part 7 - Tuning and Dyno Run:
Part 8 - Installing Intake Manifold, TB, Air Intake, & Driveshaft:
Part 8 - Installing Intake Manifold, TB, Air Intake, & Driveshaft:
8A: AIRAID Intake: • Silverado 6.2 AIRAID I...
8B: 6.2 Intake Manifold and TB: • 6.2 Intake Manifold an...
8C: Drive Shaft: • Video
Part 9 - Tuning and Final Dyno Run:
Epilogue AFM/Delete Gone Wrong :
Terrible Noises: • Terrible Engine Noises...
Time for a New Motor: • DOD / AFM Delete Gone ...
GPI Saves the Day: • AFM Delete GONE WRONG ...
Lessons Learned: • AFM Delete GONE WRONG ...
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🔩Parts (Affiliate Links)
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For the parts needed to delete AFM and add some more power, check out part 2 of this video series: • AFM DOD Delete Part 2 ...
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Tools (Affiliate Links)
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ICT Oil Pump Alignment Tool: geni.us/ICT_OilPumpAlignment
Note: modification required
OEMTools 25090 Harmonic Balancer Puller Kit: geni.us/OEMTool_GMPuller
Note: small modification required
ARP Exhaust Manifold Studs 434-1301 : geni.us/L83ExhaustStuds
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@joewalton2726 2 жыл бұрын

Great info. I'm glad I found this series as I am getting ready to do the did delete

@jeffmaskivich6676 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the videos and info you guys have made it so easy working on my 14 z71 you guys are the best keep up the good work

@TheSundaeDrive Жыл бұрын

Glad to help!!

@impulserecreationbuyer 3 жыл бұрын

Bout time this comes out! Lol I did the stage 1 cam, springs, pushrods, lifters from texas speed and the che trunion upgrade along with an e85 flex fuel sensor and got the truck tuned. Runs awesome and very happy to have removed a faulty lifter from the stupid dod/afm 4/8! Good luck with the truck!

@TheSundaeDrive 3 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah. That's awesome tho! Glad to hear it worked out for you!

@jeffreycrouch6939 2 жыл бұрын

My 2013 Silverado started making the clacking sound from a failed lifter and after talking to my brother (GM mechanic), he told me to do an AFM/DOD delete. I watched your videos and decided to go with the stage 1 from Texas Speed. I'm waiting on backordered parts currently (been 3 weeks now), so hopefully they will get my parts out soon. They recommended I send the ECM/PCM to a guy down in Texas to re-flash for the specific kit I bought, so I still need to do that as well. But looking forward to having my truck back (hopefully soon) and thank you so much for all of your information in these videos!! You guys are awesome!

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Happy the videos helped! I personally would recommend funding a local tuner for your truck that can actually measure your Air to Fuel ratio coming out of the tailpipe or with a wideband if you have one. You will get much better tuning results that way. If they just do a stock flash they are just guesstimating how your truck will behave based on other tunes. Now, I am not as familiar with the previous gen before my truck (2013 and older) so maybe there is a reason the modules need to be pulled in which case that sounds like a good plan.

@KeithWheeler-ey1pw Ай бұрын

Take the core support out and the bumper etc ( wide open space)

@pyrathian 2 жыл бұрын

I just bought a 2016 silverado with a (knocking) bad engine, and these videos are going to help it live again! funny thing was, I wasn't sure about buying it until I found these.

@pyrathian 2 жыл бұрын

And here is my big question - in the comments I saw this is with the "second motor". Sorry if I missed a video, I thought I watched them all. But I got a 16 silverado 5.3 that needs engine replacement (It's knocking hard, sometimes doesnt start). Did your initial 5.3 from the intial build videos work?

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

The motor worked but I was sent the wrong heads and they damaged the block :(

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

The video series goes through it all

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Hope these videos help you out! It isn't bad as long as you have the time, tools and space to do it ;)

@jeffhurley3548 2 жыл бұрын

Still love that body style but love the 16-19 too and the newer styles have grown on me

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

GM has been doing a good job with their truck styles for sure!

@pyrathian 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSundaeDrive Finally! XD

@danielb-c9100 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@TheSundaeDrive 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed 🤣

@epixavenger8 2 жыл бұрын

Hey y’all love the content, I was just wondering do you guys do the DOD AFM delete for customer trucks?

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

We are considering it. We may start offering this service in the near future.

@tomemery3916 10 ай бұрын

How much do you have invested in your 2014 truck, counting labor? How is the truck running now? 8/10/23. Great video! Great work!

@jeffhurley3548 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty easy six speed trans has a dipstick eight speed does not 😎👍

@elcatano1080 Жыл бұрын

Wish I would of seen this video sooner lol ! I cammed my truck 2 years ago watching your video and it’s been about 2 years now since I’ve been having that knocking sound coming which I thought was the water pump I’ve looked everywhere to find a fix well now I know I have my head gasket backwards I hope i didn’t do to much damage to my engine I’ve added about 10k Miles since the cam install… Do you know if he had both on backwards? Or was it just one side ?

@MrRGiller 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative video. This sure seems like an expensive and complicated to delete the AFM. I would have to let my mechanic do this for me if I ever decide to do this. He has 47 years experience as a mechanic.

@TheSundaeDrive 3 жыл бұрын

It isn't any easy thing, that's for sure.

@randyayo2846 3 жыл бұрын

Put your truck in L then shift to 5…that turns it off

@maxhardy3549 2 жыл бұрын

@@randyayo2846 can have it turned off too so you can at least use 6th gear. But then you still have shitty lifters in there

@randyayo2846 2 жыл бұрын

@@maxhardy3549 Yea that’s the only issue is when on the interstate doing 80 or so, then I shift into L6. I think I might get the Range AFM delete it’s only about 200 bucks

@maxhardy3549 2 жыл бұрын

@@randyayo2846 I’m taking mine off with HP tuners, either way, same result though

@rocky44105 3 жыл бұрын

Man I feel your pain on this engine platform, been a yr and 5000 miles with the engine apart 3 times now

@TheSundaeDrive 3 жыл бұрын

Oh man. What happened with yours?

@rocky44105 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSundaeDrive Long story short, put the BFD Cam by TSP and and have vowed to piston clearance issues ever since and vacuum issues news which led to another rebuild and cam. This engine is a nightmare

@rocky44105 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you got everything resolved and has been very very helpful throughout all of this

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Aww man that stinks. Hope your issues have been worked out!

@rocky44105 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSundaeDrive hopefully, just gonna do a different cam all together, GPI this time

@cammims7645 2 жыл бұрын

Stuck in between a Rock and a Hard place. My 07 Denali XL Lifter failed on me few weeks ago. Tryna decide to buy a low mile motor, or just have the shop install Ls7 Lifters. But they want $3,000 to replace lifters on Driver side. That is where tick is coming from. She got 350k but I bought her at 280k Havent even really put alot of miles on her with the 5 yrs Ive owned her.

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm that's a tough decision. 350 is a lot of miles but 3K just to change lifters is too much. Are they charging the camshaft too?

@cammims7645 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSundaeDrive Dam. Didn't even ask about if the Cam was involved. Which Afm Delete kit did you end up going with? Sorry I only watched yo 3 videos. Sorry for asking if you already mentioned what you had got.

@Timbaland20 4 ай бұрын

Did you have to get the computer reprogramed, if so how did you go about it.

@edwardbughiuc100 Жыл бұрын

put good oil in it and do changes on time and DOD won't be a problem

@TheSundaeDrive Жыл бұрын

I wish that was the case but while it can help, sadly doesn't prevent the failure several commented that they did oil changes ever 3K miles and still had failures.

@falarahwilleto3165 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing me this stuff. I was wondering if all these things you have done will be mostly the same on a 2012 chevrolet silverado 4.8L crew cab truck as well? I have been trying to keep up with your videos, and thank you for sharing. This is great information, I've already put those tools in the description in my shopping cart for the cam and lifter swap. Thanks again.

@TheSundaeDrive Жыл бұрын

no problem at all! thanks for following along! It will be similar but pretty sure there are some differences. There are some other videos linked in the descriptions of the other videos in this series and they show and older engine being deleted. That channel has a lot of good content when you find those links. Should be in the first few videos in the series under reference / source material.

@Johnny-jr2lq Күн бұрын

I want to do my 2012 gmc Sierra just for reliability.

@falarahwilleto3165 Күн бұрын

Hey, that's good stuff. My truck is running like a champ

@ironmike6345 2 жыл бұрын

So did they help u out on the price of the new motor after they sold you the wrong heads???

@allandavis8370 2 жыл бұрын

Can someone give me a ball park estimate of how much power this should gain with the parts he’s installed?

@edwardsanchez3801 Жыл бұрын

Quick question Is it possible for a brand new engine to have the head gasket installed incorrectly? Have a 2022 6.2 with a few hundred miles and the sound on the video sounds identical to what I can hear on my truck. Just my knocking sound isn’t as loud yet.

@TheSundaeDrive Жыл бұрын

I suppose it is possible, that would be pretty crazy if it was the case. Most likely a lifter collapsed tho and you are heading that. Definitely let us know what the issue ended up being !

@nick199169 2 жыл бұрын

Gpi stage 1 stock exhaust manifolds and intake manifold 332whp and 341 wtq on 87 octane

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Is that what you dyno'd at? L83?

@nick199169 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSundaeDrive yessir that was on shitty canadian 87 octane and safe timing. Also 33 inch k02s

@nick199169 2 жыл бұрын

And as for the shifting issues have you replaced your atf with amsoil signature series? Mine used to shift like hell and this stuff seemed to improve it quite a bit.

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Yessir. I run amsoil. I'm getting the trans tuned. Amsoil improved it for sure but still rough.

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Which gear did you Dyno in?

@spencerhamilton8171 2 жыл бұрын

Can you please make a super quick tail pipe idle video?

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

I'll throw something on our instagram in the near future for you. Not ready to make full KZfaq video on it but I can put on on Instagram. it sounds very stock at idle right now because the full exhaust including the cats are stock. I also swapped back to the stock airbox until I can Dyno it.

@prioritythinking 2 жыл бұрын

Look into a outlaw muffler you will love it.

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

@impala1964 3 жыл бұрын

Did you change the drive shaft? If so, what did you use?

@TheSundaeDrive 3 жыл бұрын

I will be in the next two weeks and a video will be out on it. Don't want to give it a review yet because I haven't run it yet.

@impala1964 3 жыл бұрын

Ok, thank you, I'll wait for it

@johngies4024 2 жыл бұрын

Do the 2013’s have any major issues?

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they have the dod system which has even more failures than the 2014-2018s

@speedcircuit 3 жыл бұрын

Did you say hot pocket?

@TheSundaeDrive 3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@jagoss45 2 жыл бұрын

I just went and installewd a Range Disabler for $200. Voila 8 cylinders all the time.

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

They work well and staying out of v4 mode, but don't replace the faulty design of the lifters which still fail :( I wish it was that simple.

@pyrathian 2 жыл бұрын

Do all V8's with "fuel saving" features have this problem? started with my RAM and MDS, lifter failed and ruined the cam, I figured it was a 5.7 hemi thing, now that Im getting a silverado, it seems like every manufactuerer tried to bring in a system that can ruin the engine over time.

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Yes unfortunately. The ram system seems to have a lot of problems too

@maroownr861 2 жыл бұрын

@@pyrathian thank the EPA for all these faulty designs.

@pl1338 10 ай бұрын

Putting the gasket in wrong is a major failure to pay attention to what you're doing. details!

@bamaz7140 2 жыл бұрын

How many miles was on engine when the AFM lifter failed?

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Did not fail. Failure often can destroy the motor so I was deleting it pre-emptively. If you are lucky it is just a lifter swap but many are not so lucky. I ran into other issues tho lol

@pyrathian 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSundaeDrive Funny, I lost my 2014 RAM due to lifer failer that ruined the cam, but literally nobody can really confirm if the MDS was the cause, it sounds like a very similiar system though. I wanted to pull it apart to fix it, but I traded it to a friend for a 2016 silverado, which is also going to need engine removal and help.. thanks to your vids, we will see how it goes XD

@TheSundaeDrive 2 жыл бұрын

Best of luck with it! It was probably the mds system. Lots of issues with it from what I've heard

@chino.A2024 Жыл бұрын

Man my mechanic just finished this delete and now I have a misfire on cylinder 3 😢

@TheSundaeDrive Жыл бұрын

Hopefully just a coil pack or spark plug issue!

@chino.A2024 Жыл бұрын

@@TheSundaeDrive yes was a spark plug issues but now it threw p0011 the ecm was sent out to get dod removed but I don’t think actual tuning was done but I replaced cam with stock non dod cam do you think tuning is still required

@TheSundaeDrive Жыл бұрын

Not sure why they would have sent out your ecm since it can just be tuned out remotely unless it's a newer locked ecm. Tuning is a good idea whenever something major is changed. Need to account for the new phaser limiter as well

@chino.A2024 Жыл бұрын

@@TheSundaeDrive yes new phaser was installed and I’m assuming switching out cam shaft position sensor and actuator would really do anything if it isn’t tune ? I’ll call around today to see how much it is to tune in my area

@chino.A2024 Жыл бұрын

And the ecm was sent to ams racing they flash your ecm so that you don’t have to have disabler plugged in to your obd port but I know there is also other tuners like Diablo and others that you don’t need to have them plugged in but whatever the case I’ll call the speed shops in my area

@reddhazlight1496 2 жыл бұрын

Question if GM is making non DOD vehicles due to the conductors shortages. Are they just using the same parts and just turning off the DOD system. Knowing GM there not putting in different cams and lifters. So why should anyone else spend money on a DOD kit if GM is using the same old DOD parts?

@Amokof 4 ай бұрын

You guessed it! Unfortunately they still came will all the DOD hardware but the 4 cylinder mode was deactivated. They just ran on V8 mode all the time as they didn’t have the program to run on V4 mode. I believe this happened in some of the 2019 models. Typical GM.

@Johnny-jr2lq Күн бұрын

If I’m understanding it correctly the lifters will still fail. Even though the computer is running a non AFM DOD program. Personally I’m still trying to learn everything I can about this . But from my research just flashing the program is a bandaid. The lifters will fail and when they do it will send fine metal throughout the motor. Wiping out crank bearings and at that point your into a complete rebuild. Very messed up problem that I want to blame GM for. But as I have researched more GM wasn’t responsible for this change in the LS motors. They were forced into it via government regulations to lower emissions.