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@SquimJim5 ай бұрын
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@C.A._Old4 ай бұрын
*holy hell. we still dont have comic 7 in 7 years. who knows bay raitt what he is doing right now?*
@The_Recruit4 ай бұрын
wait a sec, wouldn't you be measuring average height from the time that Tf2 takes place rather than modern day to take into perspective how tall they'd be on a logical scale and whether that'd consider them short or not?
@SquimJim4 ай бұрын
@The_Recruit There is VERY little difference in the average height now vs the 1960s. At no time in modern history would 5'6" be above average.
@The_Recruit4 ай бұрын
@@SquimJim Thanks for responding, this was when I was about 3 mins into the video. The standard in 19272 (when tf2 roughly takes place after MvM) was 5'9 so your video remains correct. Good video :3
@MicrowavedGod4 ай бұрын
@@SquimJim *MAKE THE SPEED ONE OR I WILL STEAL YOUR SKELETON*
@KishinAubrey5 ай бұрын
50 iq: the 4chan height chart is correct 100 iq: the 4chan height chart is arbitrary and incorrect 200 iq: the 4chan height chart is correct
@goobertgum4 ай бұрын
so true mastema. this post was fact checked by true law aligned individuals
@kdevelopergw4 ай бұрын
the bell curve tolls
@drdca82634 ай бұрын
Should be more like 85, 100, 115
@ComfortsSpecter4 ай бұрын
@@drdca8263Yeah 80-100 Really Isn’t All That
@ComfortsSpecter4 ай бұрын
We have Gone Full Freedom and Full Circle Perfection
@nikeiyomiuri27285 ай бұрын
Knowing tf2 lore I would believe it if someone told me that the reason everyone is so short is because back in the olden days people above 5’9 were executed for witchcraft until the tall genes got wiped out
@Putrid_N_Stupid4 ай бұрын
Unironically would fit in 100% with the TF2 canon
@dumpanimator4 ай бұрын
But still merasmus is not as tall as on game if you see comic In fact he just at same size as soldier
@nickythehickey4 ай бұрын
@@dumpanimatorwho are we to assume merasmus can’t change his size at will
@foxy-485144 ай бұрын
@@dumpanimatorhe's a wizard
@xiphosura4134 ай бұрын
Perhaps this is why in the setting Australians are so huge, Australium shields them from the shrinking effect and makes them as tall as they actually are.
@SquibGourmand5 ай бұрын
Wow, a world where 5'6" is considered tall! Where might someone find this place? Asking for a friend.
@SquimJim5 ай бұрын
Tell everyone you know that you're as tall as Heavy from TF2.
@GenericPhantom15 ай бұрын
THE Philippines!!! But that requires great sacrifice.
@Adolphus_of-bysantanium5 ай бұрын
South asia i guess
@SuperZePe25 ай бұрын
@@GenericPhantom1 What's thay sacriface?
@phospenguillite88955 ай бұрын
Third world countries.
@postaldude97795 ай бұрын
What 6 years with no Update does
@cuenta0075 ай бұрын
To a mann
@Bell-rf2kk5 ай бұрын
🤓
@mrsentrybuster5 ай бұрын
Backstabbed before they could finish
@santiagoduenas21225 ай бұрын
Ranking of The letters of tf2
@alexbluecyndaquil5 ай бұрын
What 6 feet does to a man
@TheSteelPuffin5 ай бұрын
measure spy's cigarette and find the difference between that and an average cigarette then multiply every merc on screen by that amount.
@razorbladeflamingo36354 ай бұрын
That's... actually a great idea!
@noahthecrazy16324 ай бұрын
Americans are desperate not to use the metric system
@commitfelonyfeline4 ай бұрын
Cigarettes burn away
@rotothedragonlord71984 ай бұрын
I scaled the disguise kit model to fit the width of the cigarette from his mouth to discover he uses 100mm cigarettes. After stacking cigarettes I determined spy is 23 100mm cigarettes tall. So Spy is apparently over 7 feet tall if he smokes true 100mm cigarettes. Even if we say the disguise kit is wrong and he smokes regular cigarettes in the 75ishmm range, he's still close to or over 7 feet based on what I can tell.
@JohnSmith-ox3gy4 ай бұрын
I suspect they'd be even smaller since that cigarette is not an average cigarette in 2024.
@funnydude695 ай бұрын
"take it like a man, shorty" -- the shortest class in a game that can be classified as a dwarf
@blacklight6835 ай бұрын
I think that's engineer's voice line for dominating another engineer💀he knows
@phantomblue5235 ай бұрын
Engie is projecting.
@ajmickey67475 ай бұрын
@@blacklight683 funnily enough it isnt, its just a voiceline for a melee kill
@blacklight6835 ай бұрын
@@ajmickey6747 oh... I never actually knew there was melee kill voice lines💀
@moonlitlake4 ай бұрын
@blacklight683 I thought it was a domination line for when an engie dominates a scout 😭 I might be wrong but idk
@Mrkarton5 ай бұрын
To be honest there is a good chance that 4chan heights were used while making the comics.
@RedFlame7965 ай бұрын
That's possible, if the artist didn't have any height chart on hand they could have googled it and assumed the first result was correct, it has happened a couple of times in the Transformers franchise
@buttersddragon5 ай бұрын
@@RedFlame796 as a veteran fnaf fan since all the way back in the fnaf 1 days... don't even get me started on official sources using fan content 💀
@Edamori5 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I thought, the reason why the guess was exactly correct is because the guess was used as a resource in the first place!
@ticklemedaddy4 ай бұрын
@@buttersddragon Seriously, was Splinks ever paid for official merch using his models?
@LucasTF4 ай бұрын
@@ticklemedaddyUsually not Splinks
@maskofthedragon5 ай бұрын
An anon getting it completely right from guesswork is pretty on brand
@Shotgunshogun_5 ай бұрын
Never underestimate a 4chan user with nothing to do about his useless math he probably crunched the numbers for hours
@DMAN994 ай бұрын
4chan aka Weaponized Autism.
@aidenyorke21324 ай бұрын
@@DMAN99 im autistic and this joke is hillarious
@yourunclejoe95004 ай бұрын
@@aidenyorke2132 that's cool but i dont think anyone needed to know
@aidenyorke21324 ай бұрын
@@yourunclejoe9500 shut
@goldbreezed4 ай бұрын
It's from tf2chan and it (was) filled with women
@tyrusing5 ай бұрын
Engi is living proof that dwarves are the true master race. Just look at him, the shortest merc yet also the one that carries his team the hardest.
@taxing44905 ай бұрын
Doc, cmon man!
@diegorafaelgaio27675 ай бұрын
Medic!
@nathanielballantyne89905 ай бұрын
cmere sweetheart
@kinyt38875 ай бұрын
engineer is dwarf artificer confirmed
@thosebloodybadgers84995 ай бұрын
Team and Fort to the bone!
@TwoHeadedMeerkat5 ай бұрын
The actual height of the mercenaries tying back to the beginning and proving the 4Chan user correct is the truest epitome of "I don't know how, but you used the wrong formula and got the correct answer."
@d4n7374 ай бұрын
It's 4chan so it's more like "You crazy sonovabitch, you did it". Because he actually used the correct formula. It's everybody else who was wrong. We discovered what he knew all along... Fucking 4chan with its arcane knowledge
@HappyBeezerStudios4 ай бұрын
Hey, still worth a point. Now wrap the answer into a sentence and you got another point.
@TwoHeadedMeerkat4 ай бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios I have no idea what you just said, but you phrased it in such a way that I feel oddly compelled to agree. 2 points for you then
@trueblue10565 ай бұрын
i'm pretty sure that the artist behind that panel googled how tall the merc's are and they found that 4chan height chart and just made it canon
@MASRIDER7775 ай бұрын
2:45 Heavy: I can deny it no longer…. I am small
@kristinglab3 ай бұрын
:(
@ninjasuperman95385 ай бұрын
My guess is that no one every really thought about it until the comics and then Googled their way into the 4chan chart and worked from there. Valve (at the time) strikes me as a company that would rather it look and play good before being lord accurate as well as the lore for TF2 kinda being an afterthought
@SquimJim5 ай бұрын
I was actually thinking the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened!
@alexbluecyndaquil5 ай бұрын
The level 3 sentry gun is the same height as Charizard
@vibethecat41945 ай бұрын
Engineer's buildings could be pokemon-
@tf_is_this_shit5 ай бұрын
Holy shit
@NovaAge4 ай бұрын
A fair fight then? *Holsters The Wrangler*
@taylor35124 ай бұрын
Sentry gun I choose you!
@NovaAge4 ай бұрын
@@taylor3512 Sentry gun used a gun, it's super effective!
@QuintessentialWalrus4 ай бұрын
Quick note about Hammer Units from a Source mapper: 1 HU is actually equivalent to 1 American inch, but only for characters and props. Walls, floors, ceilings, and doors use the 1 HU = 0.75 inch scale because it's more compatible with Hammer's grid system (long story) and it helps levels feel less claustrophobic. HOWEVER, the extra complication here is that TF2's character models are intentionally made larger than the characters in other Source games, so these scales are meaningless for TF2 specifically. For example, in HU the Engineer is actually taller than Coach, the tallest character in L4D2 who's supposed to be 6'3".
@HappyBeezerStudios4 ай бұрын
Yeah, there is a default, but a developer doesn't has to use that default.
@thewolfofthestars18473 ай бұрын
6'4" Engineer will haunt my nightmares
@Peusterokos1Ай бұрын
@@thewolfofthestars1847 take it like a man, shortie
@the_hiroman5 ай бұрын
Remember, Team Fortress 2 takes place in the 60's, and back then the average height was smaller than today's.
@tau-57944 ай бұрын
It really wasn't notably different. People don't just get taller over time, they just get shorter when there is poor nutrition, as was the case for most of history until recently. The 1960s isn't so far in the past that an average person then would be considerably shorter than one now.
@donbasuradenuevo4 ай бұрын
@@tau-5794 Oh hello, "Acshuallyyyyyyy" guy that never fails to always shows up.
@tau-57944 ай бұрын
@@donbasuradenuevo Bro who asked
@the_hiroman4 ай бұрын
@@donbasuradenuevo LOL
@donbasuradenuevo4 ай бұрын
@@tau-5794 Same could be said about your comment XD
@-RandomStranger-5 ай бұрын
2:55 counter argument: Heavy isnt an American man, hes *Russian* man
@P-Bean5 ай бұрын
He is a global man.
@iminumst78274 ай бұрын
Statistician : Let's assume the median class Spy is the average male height 5'6. Scientists: Let's compare the heights of the class to the heights of known objects in their environment. Mathmeticians: Lets use the defined hammer unit to inch conversion ratio. Historians: Let's assume the height of Spy matches what is recorded in the comic. 4Chan: I just guessed lol
@monkeeboy8304 ай бұрын
and somehow, the guy on 4chan was right.
@tragnemalm5 ай бұрын
The engineer technically classifies as a dwarf? *rock and stone, partner*
@d4n7374 ай бұрын
For Karl! Yeeee-Haww!
@wr3nche54 ай бұрын
the engineer class DOES exist in DRG along with scout
@d4n7374 ай бұрын
@@wr3nche5 Ye-heah! Rock n' stone, leaf lovah'! WOO!
@stevenchen6788Ай бұрын
One sentry gun, ready to be built!
@ColonelKlink19655 ай бұрын
Casual reminder that the last major update came out on October 20, 2017.
@bruhbruh-us6gl5 ай бұрын
How tf did Jungle Inferno come out 7 years ago
@ColonelKlink19655 ай бұрын
@@bruhbruh-us6gl It did, that's how.
@secondBAR4 ай бұрын
Competitive reminder that the last major update came out on October 20, 2017.
@ColonelKlink19654 ай бұрын
@@secondBAR You said the c word, how could you?
@TheBcoolGuy4 ай бұрын
When TF2 was 10 years and 10 days old.
@Tneal785 ай бұрын
My headcannon after watching this is that the entire tf2 world is just a slightly smaller version than ours.
@Woopor3 ай бұрын
Average heights today are taller than they used to be so it could just be the time period
@truestbluu5 ай бұрын
i mean heavy has the proportions of a gorilla
@GeZz.4 ай бұрын
yeah long arms, short legs
@outofideas425 ай бұрын
A master of his runes (blueprints) and a master craftsman of unmatched weaponry. Engie is a true dwarf.
@riraru_zorik4 ай бұрын
4chan creating the biggest headcanon from scratch that revealed to be canon later on is the most 4chan thing i've ever heard. Bonus if the headcanon was attempt at misinformation
@charleschamp98264 ай бұрын
Since the height guide from 4chan is from years before the comic, perhaps the artists just googled TF2 Class Heights and used it as a reference.
@DT-Source5 ай бұрын
Glad i could help out Squim!
@_Dot_Mp4_5 ай бұрын
This comment appeared as soon as you were mentioned
@DT-Source5 ай бұрын
@@_Dot_Mp4_I am the Master of Timing.
@doctormedic26825 ай бұрын
Fantasy world? Short? 5’6 is HUGE! Giant. Enormous. Well endowed as some may say I think. No I’m not coping, you’re coping 😡
@moony_otter5 ай бұрын
I'm a nerd and must nerd out Giant Snipers do exist in Two Cities as Giant Huntsman Snipers :) That's my uhm ackshully moment, thank you for your time!
@SquimJim5 ай бұрын
The wiki says those are 1.5X size! Semi-giants?
@moony_otter5 ай бұрын
@@SquimJim Only a spy would lie about being a giant like that! the TF2 MVM lore deepens
@wizardii49615 ай бұрын
@@moony_otter Those are not giants. They lack attributes Miniboss. Additionally they can be instantly be killed via backstabs.
@Ultimaximus4 ай бұрын
Imagine being wrong when doing an uhm ackshully
@moony_otter4 ай бұрын
@@wizardii4961 I got out-uhm ackshully'd :( lol gg, yeah i never really noticed the difference, personally, but that was my bad
@Subject_Keter5 ай бұрын
What 6 updates with no years does
@the_average_zelda_player5 ай бұрын
Do you mean what 6 years with no update does (still funny though)
4 ай бұрын
@@the_average_zelda_playerswitching words to make something weird.
@mikays70594 ай бұрын
the fact i read this three times to realize it's (intentionally) worded wrong lol
@proving96064 ай бұрын
@@the_average_zelda_player He meant what he meant
@Ojito334 ай бұрын
Does years with 6 no updates what
@eylookvulheimiik75385 ай бұрын
They all grew up in the 1920s-30s ish era, they probably few up very malnourished
@megarigged5 ай бұрын
I don't know if that entirely justifies it. Scout, for example, certainly grew up in the 40s and 50s, during the most economically prosperous era in the US. I would believe malnutition for Medic, Soldier, and Heavy, though.
@fojisan23985 ай бұрын
@@megariggedDemoman also canonically confirmed to be very malnourished, thiugh that seems to be by choice.
@megarigged5 ай бұрын
@@fojisan2398 Oh, really? Where?I don't remember that, although I definitely believe it.
@fojisan23985 ай бұрын
@@megarigged That panel where Demo has an internal monologue with his organs leaving him because of his alcoholism and Spy mentioning how he "lives off of grain alcohol"
@mekhie.r.duncan38255 ай бұрын
@@megariggedin the comics when Pauling demo and spy are captured by the old team fortress
@commanderboom26264 ай бұрын
The scaling difference in TF2 is something you can see between different versions of hammer. If you take a TF2 character into a map correctly scaled for half-life, the TF2 characters will have trouble moving around in some areas. Likewise when playing a TF2 map in a game like Gmod the map will appear slightly larger than in TF2.
@alextunneyware4 ай бұрын
Something to note about Heavy usually towering over Scout, Scout is almost always slouched in game, or at least has his knees bent and his centre of mass lower than it should be (for what I can only assume is for balance)
@NovaAge5 ай бұрын
Dyslexia, figure one: I somehow read that as "TF2 _heists_ make no sense" and somehow was convinced that stands for... Payday 2.
@youtubeuniversity36385 ай бұрын
Tayfay 2!
@Dmanthepowerful5 ай бұрын
I misread it as “TF2 Highlights make no sense” and thought it was going to be trashing on highlight reels lol
@Pangloss64133 ай бұрын
Your pfp is worrying
@NovaAge3 ай бұрын
@@Pangloss6413 I don't even what it is
@gamingmoth45425 ай бұрын
Soldier also wears Jungle Boots which probably give him an extra 2 to 3 inches.
@youtubeuniversity36385 ай бұрын
Prolly need to find an in-game item that either has One Single Possible Size (like from standardization) or is literally a tool for measuring size/distance if you wanna be TRUE certain.
@HappyBeezerStudios4 ай бұрын
One person here used Spy's cigarette to measure. I suggested taking a gun barrel. Then there are obviously the oil drums on many maps. And pieces of wood like the bridge on 2fort, which most likely are bought following a standard and not custom tooled. Individual steps on staircases might also work, they aren't always the same, but fall into a pattern that is comfortable to use.
@mak3x74 ай бұрын
Thats not spys official hight, a spy of his caliber knows how to fake his height.
@Silly_lil_guy66Ай бұрын
"Like i said, i'm 6'4" - person who is in fact, 5'2
@thelunchking40695 ай бұрын
Its funnier to think that all of the mercs are manlets in a huge brawl Also isn’t there an in game scale or something in the spawn room? If it has legible numbers that could be more accurate to the in game heights
@Bbing8885 ай бұрын
I honestly think it's less likely that the 4chan guy made a really good guess, and more likely that a certain artist at valve had to google the character's heights and found that image... Which is pretty funny if true.
@demi-femme48214 ай бұрын
5 bucks says the comic artists referenced the 4Chan height chart.
@cheeseboi88915 ай бұрын
maybe everything in texas isn't bigger…
@shadowknight_25054 ай бұрын
😭😭😭
@DuckysTales3 ай бұрын
who says it was about height :) something is deff bigg on the texas engineer
@randomtexanguy95632 ай бұрын
lies, the texas state capitol in austin is bigger than the us capitol in dc
@NoelJoyeux84 ай бұрын
When it comes to niche research and guesswork, 4chan is actually a pretty reliable source. They've cracked multiple cyphers that comic authors created, correctly predicted secret twist endings to shows, and even tracked down a flag in the middle of nowhere using vapor trails and star charts
@aneasteregg81715 ай бұрын
But how tall is Merasmus?!
@Markiz935 ай бұрын
Merasmus seems to be based on Sniper model scaled up to be twice as tall as him.
@dumpanimator5 ай бұрын
Merasmus in game and comic have different size tho In the comic Doom-mates his height is just a few inch taller from soldier and a woman on that comic But sience he can alter human size it is not really surprise if he actually just increase his height in game
@pelinalwhitestrake33672 ай бұрын
Merasmus is as tall as he wants to at the moment.
@SiFWolf5 ай бұрын
9:50 Jim, iirc giant robo- engineers, sniper, and spy were using the default MiniBoss size which is 1.75 times bigger than their regular variant.. which is pretty silly for what they're supposed to do.
@xScruffyDaSasquatchx4 ай бұрын
Wonderful video. As a Halo modder we deal with the same issue. The "lore" height assumes Master Chief is exactly 7ft but the direct export height is like 5ft something.
@vxnished995 ай бұрын
Today I had a very strange low. I started watching Latin American Inca documentaries and Chris Marker video essays and eventually ended up watching a video about the height of TF2 characters.
@randomnessnecesity96274 ай бұрын
7:16 I was half expecting “not only is he standing at a perfect 6 feet tall, but the spy HAS A GUN!”
@Docteur_Hex2 ай бұрын
Now we need the heights of : -Pauling -Saxton Hale -Headless Horseless Horseman -Merasmus
@davidmacdonald18554 ай бұрын
I always took that original height chart picture as being official. Glad you dug deeper and enjoyed how you looked at a bunch of different sources (figures, hammer units, comics etc.) Really well done video:)
@diegov17435 ай бұрын
Doesn't Valve have a real life sentry in its HQ? Someone could measure it lol
@princesscadance1974 ай бұрын
Wow, I guess I'm taller than Heavy. Even though he could still probably break me like a twig...
@graphitewarrior4 ай бұрын
Dude this is such a perfect representation of the awkward height to real world translation in TF2. I tried doing this for fun once and I was doing (much looser) Game Theory style door measurements. Seeing someone else get the same answers feels vindicating, I thought I was just bad at math XD
@HappyBeezerStudios4 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that doors in games tend to be larger than in real life. And that is for regular doors like in houses. Most doors on the maps are extra large.
@QuintonMurdock5 ай бұрын
It’s similar to how the dwarves in DRG are like 9 feet tall
@TheKoriKasai5 ай бұрын
What?!
@rorystockley59695 ай бұрын
How is that calculated?
@tbotalpha81335 ай бұрын
DRG uses the Unreal Engine, which uses metric units. The dwarves are 1.5 metres tall. Or, 150 cm, or 4 ft 11 in.
@Ophidius74 ай бұрын
Ngl, engie the dwarf makes sense to me Also sniper is cheating, he has lifts in his shoes that engie made for him so he could peek over walls better
@jonsku66625 ай бұрын
Some 4channer: "I'll just assume that.. sniper is 6.1 and base the heights of others from that. Idk." SquimJim years later: "After several sources to get a believable height chart... son of a bitch he's right!" Math teacher: "Idk how, but you used the wrong method yet the right answer!"
@rockowlgamer6315 ай бұрын
All I know is being 6'2" myself sucks, my dad 6'4" himself can agree with me being tall sucks. Finding pants with proper length, finding good seats that don't scrunch our legs, possibly banging our heads atop of door frames, etc. Enjoy being short.
@eccomi215 ай бұрын
short privilege
@jessehunter3625 ай бұрын
lord i wish i was shorter
@Adolphus_of-bysantanium5 ай бұрын
Nah average is better than both
@the_epic_memer5535 ай бұрын
You're lucky. As a 5'5 man, I have to climb up a mountain just to get in bed. Good news tho is that a savage size slim jim is about a years worth of food.
@jessehunter3625 ай бұрын
@@the_epic_memer553 you can just sleep on the floor, it works fine.
@SyToX14 күн бұрын
For what it's worth, I've taken a different approach. One of the few identifiable objects in the game are the Scout's dog tags, which according to the US military are 1.125" x 2.0". Then I went into SFM, copy-pasted and stacked these dogtags on their long end right next to Scout(without the hat). Which ended up being 35.88 dog tags, which is 71.76", or 5'11.76" or 182.27 cm.
@Pudding4045 ай бұрын
We all know by now that an average 4chan user with too much time on their hands may as well be special ops.
@AlmyTheAlien4 ай бұрын
A bunch of teenagers triangulating contrails and weather patterns solely to screw with Shia Lebouf's flag is still the most simultaneously terrifying and hilarious thing I've ever seen.
@HappyBeezerStudios4 ай бұрын
But how many of them have over 300 confirmed kills and are trained in gorilla warfare?
@Small_child_punter5 ай бұрын
Well done on whoever did that height chart! Perfectly accurate guess! I hope he’s still around enough to see this video and learn how right he is. That said, for total accuracy, all the mercs would be a little shorter without their boots on. They all have heels, sniper probably has the most pronounced ones.
@HappyLittleBoozer4 ай бұрын
Dwarf Fortress 2
@foolofdaggers75555 ай бұрын
wait. i can combine the hammer unit to real world measurement conversion with another piece of random knowledge I've had for years. the gay miniatures from night at the museum are exactly three hammer units tall. and somehow this is actually going to be really useful because i'm trying to build the entire museum from night at the museum (as it appears in canon, which is entirely different from the museum they used to film the exterior shots) in hammer.
@DakkaScrappa4 ай бұрын
while tf2 has no major update in years heavy weapons guy took his time off and flown to canopy to take a vacation
@Crazy_Dave_-lv2pu5 ай бұрын
Giant sniper bots do appear as the giant huntsman snipers on one of the mannhattan missions.
@Chaos_Vergil4 ай бұрын
Here's my theory as to how they got the 4chan post got the height right: they made an assumption for the heights and the makers of TF2 and the comics saw that and said "Yeah, that seems accurate" and made those the officials heights
@ignaciomontiel55502 ай бұрын
4:42 I don't think it is impossible for Heavy to be 208.28 cm tall. I mean, he's supposed to be a walking wall with a big gun in a fictional world. The door of my bathroom is 210 cm and, comparing the door with a real world TF2 Heavy, i can actually tell that it's very plausible that he is that tall
@JohnNoirАй бұрын
Heavy seems to be around that height in the comics, he even makes Scout and Soldier who aren't that short look tiny
@blinxishot4 ай бұрын
valve has a real level 1 centry in their headquarters so you can use that to figure out the height
@supermudkipz5 ай бұрын
Next video should be comparing the height of every card in CLash Royale
@omppusolttu57994 ай бұрын
What are the odds the comic makers were unsure about how tall the spy was and decided to just look it up assuming someone had properly done the math? (I'm thinking pretty high)
@ronanclark21295 ай бұрын
People when they thought you'd be taller:
@monkeeboy8304 ай бұрын
Pyro moves at the average speed, 100% and according to the valve software wiki that is equal to 300 hammer units per second and if we multiply that by 1.1566 like was said in the video then 0.75 for the hammer units to to inches than that means the pyro moves at 260.235 inches per second which is equal to about 14.79 mph or about 23.80 kph and since scout moves at 133% speed we can multiply pyros speed by 1.33 which gives us 19.67 mph or 31.65 kph which means you would be able to run over scout in your average school zone (atleast in the US).
@jakethom29682 ай бұрын
I like how magic existing is more believable than someone being 5'6
@TheFoxMcfat5 ай бұрын
I remember recently working with hammer, and some of the variables (im not sure but i think it was the lip variable for func_door brushes) specified how much space "in inches" it should move more by and i don't think the devs made that variable mean that it would move by a weird fraction of an hammer unit, (if a hammer unit really is 0,75 inches), so i think they meant that 1 hu = 1inch in that case at least so the heavy would in that case be 223,52cm tall - just a theory tho, not entirely set in stone on anything there 🙂
@fantastikboom10944 ай бұрын
That's left from older Source engine games where a player is 72 inches/units tall. They didn't change the descriptions for TF2 Hammer 😔
@pyrofromtf25 ай бұрын
I am Pyro. I have become real.
@SquimJim5 ай бұрын
Hello real Pyro
@AceW.Kermitcat5 ай бұрын
*Dear God…*
@mikeyaftony24645 ай бұрын
Real pyro wouldn't say this Real pyro would probably say something along the lines of: "WOW ❤🍭🍭❤️🔥💛🍬🍫🍬👍💘💚😍🍥😭🍫❤️🔥🍭🍫🍬💚🍬🍥❤️🔥👍😍💘💚"
@jk02735 ай бұрын
❔
@pyrofromtf25 ай бұрын
@@SquimJim hi!
@sentrydraws254 ай бұрын
You could maybe use the jungle inferno trailer to scale saxton
@supermaro23494 ай бұрын
I wonder what that would make Ms Paulings height since I would assume her standing next to scout shows her to be a bit shorter than him in expiration date so maybe around 5 feet 7 inches would be my guess
@lordlammi15624 ай бұрын
Heavy being 6'10 is perfectly plausible.
@gelitonman17535 ай бұрын
Cool, I have always been the same height as Pyro Cosplay idea!!!!!
@AverageConsumer-uj8sm4 ай бұрын
burn the convention center down
@jerma9845 ай бұрын
It would have been interesting if you found a known scale in game to compare with. Something like assuming the bonk can is standard. I’m sure there is a good scale in the game somewhere.
@alicepbg20424 ай бұрын
3:13 - fuck you mean heavy is shorter than me?
@jollythewolf49985 ай бұрын
To be fair to short heavy heights do change often throughout the years like the in the 1950s I’m pretty sure people were shorter on average than nowadays
@ishitmypantsinacarwheniwas75 ай бұрын
i wonder in theory if you use collab items (such as ones from deus ex, grordbort, and alien) you could in theory find their height. but i remembered the phlog's proportions in tf2 and grordbort canon (MIGHT BE) very off edit:the phlogistinator apparently dosent exist? i only saw models of the unnatural selector. which looks exactly like the phlog but has a longer stock and no dongle?(the tank in the bottom). if this is truethis has heavy implications to the lore and might explain how pyro managed to run frontier engineering and uh. wdym pyro is able to make stuff
@ishitmypantsinacarwheniwas75 ай бұрын
ok, ok. THE PHLOG IS ACTUALLY A MODIFIED UNNATURAL SELECTOR! the lever is weld. and pyro somehow managed to turn a rifle into a flamethrower. while yeah this creates two headcannons that (one of them is in line with tf2 while the other is wack) for me. a. the pyro is insanely good at engineering and b. we now knew how the phlogistinator worked ngl i genuinenly thought that things like the scottish resistance, the flare gun, and maybe even the widowmaker to have good explanation but i guess its the phlog's crit is probably powered by the dongle and that's probably some generator connected to the rifle
@chivix49495 ай бұрын
@@ishitmypantsinacarwheniwas7Tf2 mercs get most of their weapons from Mann Co, so it must be Mann Co's engineers building phlogs and other jury rigged stuff they have. Pyro is high as a kite in pyroland, so i don't think they can really build anything. (except Mmmph meter with phlog.)
@TheChowder0014 ай бұрын
For all we know an artist making the comic might've googled the height and came across that same info and just went with it
@potatosoup95365 ай бұрын
I absolutely hate the fact that something coming from 4chan of all places is pretty accurate.
@elloo984 ай бұрын
Why?
@vice23445 ай бұрын
Now the goblineer makes more sense
@stroodleloodle29094 ай бұрын
The artist who made the thumbnail deserves a platonic smooch for their masterpiece
@joelsalminen53094 ай бұрын
Heavy is forever 5'6" in my headcanon.
@Zaneyboy2_05 ай бұрын
I learned I'm as tall as heavy. So, I'm feeling pretty good about myself right now.
@theengineer-dellconagher5 ай бұрын
could always estimate saxtons height using the jungle inferno vid
@theengineer-dellconagher5 ай бұрын
little bit taller than scout from what i can guess, so maybe ~6 foot?
@Big_Bantha3 ай бұрын
I'm stumped that no one thought of this: the in-game Righteous Bison is a 1:1 version of WETA's Righteous Bison. Use that model as a measuring stick, and you can get real measurements.
@ByWho-js5bq5 ай бұрын
They really did send babies to fight heavy
@makerrov5 ай бұрын
I fricking love how the whole video is spent doing calculations literally anything that could be used to measure the mercs' heights after finding out the 4Chan height chart is just a guess, only to turn around and say that yes the 4Chan height chart is accurate rendering the whole video pointless, truly is what 6 years with no updates does to a gamer lmao, A+ video, Great content.
@youtubeuniversity36385 ай бұрын
8:34 Oh wow!!! 11:17 No this was way better. Remember, it was BASED OFF ASSUMING SNIPER WAS SIX FOOT ONE.
@Superkidra4 ай бұрын
Hey, cool and good video as usual... But this all seems slightly tall? Like I could easily imagine Engineer standing below other classes around, like, 5'4, 5'5, which would put the rest of the mid-range more closer to average and not have appraoching-7ft tall Heavy or whatever. Not a huge deal, theyre all fighters or whatever so maybe even the shorter classes being big compared to 50's average or the environment is expected? idk, shorter just seemed simpler to me, even with some of the circumstantial confirmation like the robot figure (kinda) and Anon's guesswork. I am also now curious how other in-game objects measure up now though, as well as Valve's irl Level 1 Sentry :o
@HappyGingerWolf4 ай бұрын
Maybe the comic artists googled the merc heights and saw the 4chan thread, thus accidentally making it become canon
@cheezkid26895 ай бұрын
I don't know if I love the idea of the 1/4th Freeman being 20 inches tall. Sure, maybe the HEV suit boots are big, but c'mon, Gordon Freeman is not 6'8. I imagine Black Mesa's (admittedly arbitrary) stat of just barely shy of 6'0 is more accurate.
@fantastikboom10944 ай бұрын
Yep, Gordon Freeman is 72 inches tall ingame.
@cheezkid2689Ай бұрын
@@fantastikboom1094 Yeah, 6'0 would make sense. From the way the shoes of the suit look, they don't provide much boost to height, so 6'8 is just... no.
@derrickbiedermann98025 ай бұрын
When "If came to me in a dream" is a reliable source
@MachuThePichu4 ай бұрын
according to the valve developer wiki hammer units for humans follow the rule of 1foot is 12 hammer units, I am not good at imperial but I think that comes down to 1 inch per hemmer unit (with the 0.75 inch=1 hammer unit being for map architecture) but this is on a general page for the source engine and the tf2 page says that measurements are a little different in tf2 without specifying what they are
@AverageConsumer-uj8sm4 ай бұрын
a foot is 12 inches, so yes, 1 inch would be 1 hammer unit in this case
@BluvidYT29 күн бұрын
6:05 the podium the heavy is standing on makes him SEEM taller than robo heavy
@SquimJim29 күн бұрын
It's taller even without the podium. Keep in mind the Heavy statue also has his legs bent.
@BluvidYT29 күн бұрын
@@SquimJim ah, true
@Iron_Soil5 ай бұрын
Shoud have used the soldier grenades as scale models as they are possibly real life sized
@davitdavid71655 ай бұрын
I dont trust valve to know weaponary. They designed the scattergun and made the spas12 shoot 2 rounds at once
@tbotalpha81335 ай бұрын
@@davitdavid7165 Also Soldier shoves 4 rockets in the front of his rocket-launcher at once. And Demoman loads 3 grenade into the Loch-N-Load, which only has 2 barrels. It's pretty clear that these guns are not realistic in any way.
@davitdavid71655 ай бұрын
@tbotalpha8133 the rocket launcher could be excused as cartoon logic and the Loch n load capacity is because of balancing after it was added, so I won't hold them against it too much. The scattergun simply defies reason. Trying to understand how it works will give you a stroke
@randomtexanguy95632 ай бұрын
@@davitdavid7165 My headcanon on the Scatter Gun: The Scatter Gun stores 32 shells in that big drum in the back attached to the grip. The 6 in the "magazine" are ones currently chambered, and thus the Scatter Gun has a total of 38 shells when fully loaded. It can chamber only 6 shells at a time, and the lever action ejects these spent shells and chambers new shells, hence why a shell is not ejected when the Scatter Gun is shot, but only when the lever is cycled. It probably alternates between 2 barrels like a Double Barrel Shotgun (like the Force-A-Nature and the Soda Popper) when shot. There are probably 2 chambers and 2 internal tubes that hold 3 shells each. The lever ejects spent shells and lets in a new shell simultaneously in each of these magazines, letting one shell in each chamber as well. Essentially, the Scatter Gun is some ungodly, yet innovative marvel of gunsmithing in semi-automatic shotgun technology Frankenstein'd with lever action and Double Barrel technology that also has an internal magazine that stores tons of extra shells (like the SMLE Mk. 3 had an internal magazine to store up to 10 rounds and required 2 5-round clips t o fully load with, which was not changed in later models like the * and Mk. 4) that also doesn't jam and can be refilled in an instant. The Scatter Gun also probably doesn't have a big stock and short barrels like the Frontier Justice (which has one barrel) so that it fits in his bag. That's probably where he stores his Scatter Gun and Bat at, and his Pistol is probably in his pocket, and the other pocket is used for storing the 3 mags for it. This doesn't make any sense of course, because why would it? Additional Headcanons: The BFB would work similarly but with one 4-round tube and one barrel. The Back Scatter would work similarly but with one 4-round tube and one barrel, but the massive drum mag (reserve ammo) carries so little because of -game balance- potential jamming issues because drum mags are unreliable when fully loaded sometimes. Force-A-Nature and Soda Popper are Double Barrel Shotguns. Shortstop is a Peppergun. edit: I didn't have a stroke figuring it out. I just thought up most of it randomly a while ago while playing the game. Some parts I thought up on the spot.
@davitdavid71652 ай бұрын
@randomtexanguy9563 nah. The bolt for the semi auto mechanism has nowhere to go, in first person the muzzle flash only comes from the left barrel, there is no place for the 3rpund tubes (or even the 32 rounds in the drum) and the bolt machismo for the semi auto mechanism combined with the lever action to shell chamfering mechanism would be larger than the gun is currently in its entirety. The only way it can work like this is just handwaving it with Australian because tf2 also takes part in the 60s. When looking at the model and animations it's clear that someone threw vaguely old shotgun design details together into an admittedly iconic package. Adaptation wise I am thinking you can turn it into a simple lever action with a drum magazine. The person who added it in vr focused in the 2 barrels to make it kinda like the db12, so you need to use the lever every 2 shots. I still don't understand why they didn't use normal lever action animations. They even put a loading port on the bottom of the drum.