It seems that we learned a lot about TF2 in this video, such as that: -A player can take no damage when not invulnerable -A wooden bat is considered a bullet when swung in a specific way -And the Warrior Spirit/Buffalo Steak Sandwich Heavy set is still terrible

You forgot that a Scout can do 175 (525 crit, etc) to a Pyro with a melee, if wearing the Isolationist set & the Pyro is wearing the Isolated Merc set.

I'm just imagining a bullet doing zero damage, and the spy is acting all dramatic and writhing on the floor, like "I'M HIT, I"M HIT! THE PAIN, IT'S UNBEARABLE!!"

Fun fact: the reason valve made the strength powerup not affect crits is because of solarlights video titled "If i die, the video ends" and he actually made the game he was in unfun to play because he would come out of nowhere and one shot you.

4:24 That death sequence was great

fun fact, the RPS taunt does a base damage of 999, if you win, meaning scout can go higher than 1755 dmg

I already know the lowest damage, The Shortstop shove.

the way my name was spoken has me worried. AM i even vinegar? is my name a lie to who i am?? am i having an existential crisis????

Squimjim has a brilliant way of answering questions I had no idea I wanted the answer to.

“Strength and crits don’t stack anymore” Yeah... I wonder why they did that *Coughs in Solarlight*

Wow, that was pretty insane to see a Buffalo Steak Heavy take that much damage. But then again when hasn’t that set been pretty bad?! And wow! So the taunt kills do count as a different damage type! I could swear I had a Heavy survive a taunt kill before with a vacc shield, and it turns out that was true! Just goes to show that blunt force weapons will always do more up close damage than a shotgun, doomsday preppers take notes. Love the new vid SquimJimiJam. And happy to work on the thumbnail for you! Was a really fun and interesting change of pace :3

I just realized that heavys facial expressions change from angry to sad when at low health

If I remember correctly, the last hit from the gunslingers taunt was classified as explosive damage, probably to cause the gibs.

I just signed up for Skillshare but didn't use your link out of spite! Congrats on securing the bag

everyone gangsta until he tries to find Sniper's max damage

When it comes to damage calculations tf2 will always usually round down. That’s why the scattergun is SUPPOSED to do 105 damage but since it isn’t a whole number (about 104.8) it will round down to 104

3:54 thank solarlight for that lmao

Local Man Shatters Russian Man's Entire Skeleton With A Bat

it's actually really interesting that it's possible to deal 0 damage lol

1:37 Holy crap... The heavy started looking sad as he got injured. Has that always been a thing?

With the shortstop scout can do 1% damage to a player when he push someone

Fun fact: The mannpower update happened because solarlight went on a massive 84 killstreak with the strength powerup as demoknight and pissed off the valve employees (maybe)

"Should Scout be able to one shot a Heavy?" 6s players: Yes, actually.

Are we going to ignore how sad heavy was during this experiment :(?

I just noticed the heavy, probably all classes with a face, has a more sadder face when they're on low health.

The real question is, Would this said damage kill me?

I think the explanation for the full ramp-up doing 104 damage instead of 105 is that there is a very _very_ slight distance between you and the heavy. To get the full 105 you would have to be _inside_ the heavy, which is impossible in normal gameplay.

6:07 “176 damage” -Deals 190 Seems legit.

Watching this during breakfast and you can't stop me Jim

The best explanation for the 105 dmg and 104 dmg issue is that the distance is calculated looking for you to be literally in the middle of the hitbox to get the 175% increase, but due to player collision it is not possible. Maybe if collision was off and you were inside the enemy, you would reach max damage scaling relative to distance? (Note, I commented this on the second mention of the issue, so if it was addressed later on, ignore my comment.)

day 2 of asking SquimJim to make the history and lore of tf2 cows

the 104 357 damage stuff might have to do something with the fact that even when ure standing right in front of someone ure still 0.005 hammer units away or some shit like that

4:03 Solarlight directly caused this, He wasn’t even in the video and he still did a collab

I love how much obscenely obscure information you managed to find by trying to make a pretty fun and innocuous video.

14:49 ah yes, my every point blank meat shot.

I definitely thought the lowest would be the shortstop's shove.

SquimJim: Shows the highest and lowest dmg scout can do Scout mains when they use the loadout: STRONK

The steak doesn't have a damage vulnerability anymore. It was removed a month before jungle inferno

For those who didn't know: the steak will give user "mark for death" effect which make the target take mini crit from normal attack. If you had crit, the mini crit from "Mark for death" will be ignore. Also the steak not fully make the user take 50% damage like a normal mini crit although the effect suppose to be (I'm pretty sure this was make for the sub-class boxing Heavy not as weak) but it's still be overwrite by the crit effect.

I seem to remember that the max resistance is actually higher since the backup has an additional resistance explicitly to sentry fire. Not relevant to scout but the demomam shooting the spy was labeled as the highest possible resistance when iirc that's not technically accurate.

Grinding for that Wiki Cap i see, smart move

9:28 0 damage, after missing all 6 scattergun shots, then running away

15:00 this is how i feel as a scout main

The lowest damage scout can do without the enemy being in any effects is 1 with the shortstop shove.

3:54 *faint Demoknight laugh in the distance*

Forget a maximum/minimum damage series, give us a Rubix Cube lubing tutorial

awesome video, really really interesting stuff! ive been an avid fan for a while and the production value on this channel really amazing, can clearly tell how much goes into this. keep on keeping on man ur content is awesome :]

4:16 You made me P a n i k, I instantly rewinded the video It's like this dog video that I saw when some dude was reciting his shopping list to his retired police dog, and then he says "Cocaine" to the dog and it turns it's neck and stares at the dude

"Can scout one shot a heavy?" Scout : Batter up

when heavy is at low hp it makes him sad. oof

At about 16:50 i heard infinity mijinion and mistakenly thought "what dont use the final countdown youll get copyright struck" until a moment later i realized what the song actually was. always nice to hear megaman music in your videos, love it.

This is the video I expected the least to see, but it was certainly one of the most interesting. Nice job on securing a sponsorship!

“Are you paying attention???” Me: let me sleep its 3am

I just now realized after like 1.5k hours in game, heavy look sad when low health 😭

Fun fact crits are actually set to override the power boost of the power up so the power boost is still there but not being shown

Im my oppinion the most broken weapons ingame despite their damage are shotguns, because you can either take 6-18 damage, *or you can get buttfucked by a bazillion damage by that one lime/pink scout that manages to not miss any pellets from his scattergun*

your art on your thumbnails is looking more and more amazing. you love to see it. good stuff yo

what about MvM's + damage upgrade?

Hol up, what about the Rock Paper Scissors kill? It does 999 damage, but is it affected by mini-crits?

Super fun video man! Keep up the good work 😄

No bs Scout damage: Lowest damage- 1 (Shortstop's shove) Highest damage- 500 (Sandman taunt)

I've always found it interesting how the characters facial expression change when there in low hp.

This was certainly an intriguing video and I look forward to more like this

another interesting fact about damage types is that the shield bash from a demoknight's charge is classified as bullet damage. makes me think that they just lumped everything that they couldn't immediately decide on into "bullet" and forgot about it later.

So basically the highest possible damage the Scout can do is basically just an accurate depiction on what would happen if you got shot in the face with a Shotgun

Babe wake up, after breakfast uploaded.

Thanks! Can't wait to incorporate this into my gameplay!

Next episode... I wonder what solder will use for his prum... *insert lazy purple clip of him using the direct hit while ode to joy plays*

I notice you forgot the MvM Upgrades, including the straight damage upgrades.

the reason why the wrap assasin ball does inconsistent damage is because (at least I think) it creates a small explosion, an that means the max damage could by increased by multiple enemies

This has the potential to be a pretty cool series. Keep going!

I have noticed the same bug with the wrap. My one guess is it’s bugged and still uses random damage spread. For those that don’t know RDS was a old mechanic that would make you either do up to (I think but I’m not sure) 20% more or less damage. Pipes from a demo could do 80 or 105 or 95 or 98. It was random whether or not people would survive on one hp

"Strength powerup no longer multiplies critical damage" Solarlight: *NERVOUS SWEATING*

4:25 that ragdoll had me falling

I may have a theory for the random amounts of damage the christmas ornament deals: Its the pieces of it when it breaks that deal the damage most of the damage and not the ornament itself. Think about it, if it were to bust open on someones head, the pieces would go flying everywhere randomly, which means a random about of pieces be stuck inside their head. The whole base of this theory is the fact that you can damage yourself with the ornament if you throw it into a wall right infront of your face.

I think when damage calculation results in a decimal in TF2, the number always rounds down to the closest integer, no matter what the decimal number is.

I might have an idea about total damage being always slightly off than calculated damage. In programming, it's always easier to work with integers than floating points (rational numbers). But fractional multiplications commonly result in rational numbers, so whenever we don't need the absolute exact number, we can just convert a floating point to an integer, essentially throwing away the decimal part. This also makes sure that dealt damage always amounts to exactly what is displayed, but it can have side effects. Now, I haven't seen TF2 source code, but my guess is every damage multiplication is done one by one, with conversion to integer in-between them. Some damage buffs and debuffs you talk about in this video are most definitely fractional multiplications, and if you assume we lose all of the decimal part every multiplication, the missing 1 to 2 damage adds up.

14:53 hmmm that box in the lower right corner looking mighty sus

Seeing that gameplay in the beginning makes me relize how much more grounded force of nature gameplay is

This feels inspired by those videos of smash ultimate where they see how much damage a character can do overall, and I'm all for it

I think the steak+warriors spirit combo ignoring crits is due to how the vulnerability is handled, because I think it applies the vulnerability as a mini-crit damage like marked for death, but that might be hard coded to be overridden by crits and not doubled with regular mini crits

This is too much math, but I respect your commitment to it and the other videos. As for the bit in here about Scout's damage being slightly off... I think, though don't know for sure, that it may be due to the shotgun's natural spread and the way the pellets spawn from the gun. At point blank range, it should be doing 175% more due to the ramp-up, but the pellets aren't just in a ball together or right behind the other despite being an even 10 pellets. Which is something you can see just by hitting a wall; they all seem to be in an odd spread from each other and sometimes seem to even be missing a bullet hole, though that may just be a visual bug. Either way, I'd guess the ramp up becomes 174% for a few of them just because they spawn closer to Scout rather than the Heavy target; resulting in a very small fall off that messes with the calculation, if only slightly. ... Can't explain the wrap-assassin, though. But anywho, based on the other videos, all that may also be why some damage falls off with some weapons, but not with others, as the travel speed and your positioning is calculated from the spawned bullet or explosive. Notably the Demoman's Sticky Bomb only calculates the fall off damage based on where Demoman is when it explodes, rather than when or where it was fired, so long as 5 seconds haven't passed. But Bullets and Rockets are tracking where they were fired from to calculate the fall off, since they have to figure out where they explode when they hit something, rather than when the player presses a button. All of that is just speculation, though. I'm not a programmer and didn't bother testing any of it.

4:27 that was such an amazing and dramatic ragdoll

Fun fact in regards of low scout damage, the shortstop shove does 1 whole damage to any victim you shove. However, it does not show any damage marker when you hit a person nor does it increase the damage dealt stat tracker on the tab menu.

To answer your question about scouts scattergun ramp up, he can do 105 in 1 hit but you need to be literally inside of them. Most of the time because tf2 rounds down you will be getting 104. But I get 105 damage shots semi frequently in mge especially and they’re juicy.

The reason for the numbers being off might be that the damage is calculated per bullet rather than as a whole, so there might be some rounding errors in there causing the discrepancy.

I caught that Infinity Mijinion as the highest damage was replayed in slow motion. Nice video though! Does shed some light on what needs to be patched and fixed (should Valve ever get around to it)

Hey man I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the background music. Gyro Mans theme is fantastic.

Loved the video! Can't wait for the Soldier one

Force A Nature + strength power up + crit-a-cola + fan o'war + warrior's spirit = nuclear bomb

Not sure if this has been said, but the wrap assassin damage being inconsistent might be the ball exploding on hit and not all the shrapnel hitting the target

I loved it! looking forward to the next one :)

If the number has a fractional component, such as 104.7, it will be discarded. A result of 104 in that case. Even if you would have dealt 99.999 damage, it comes out as just 99 damage, not 100. Sometimes this can happen multiple times from various multipliers before a final result is reached.

I think that the damage is slightly lower than expected because the falloff takes the small distance still present between two players at point black into account, since two players can't be in the exact same position

this was really interesting, you should do every class!

The damage calculation is probably due to a float-to-integer conversion. Source was created with and uses c++. doing said calculation @4:56 floors the value to 368. It is less data to use ints 4bytes versus a float which normally is 1 integer with a 7 decimal precision after. (E.g. 3.1234567). Its also less math in the future because no one was to see their health bar at 120.3320819.

I guessed tauntkill at the beginning. This would be a fun series for every class!

A possible reason why the pistol (among other weapons) are capable of doing 0 damage is because .3 is closer to 0.0 when rounding while something like 0.5 is closer to 1 when rounding. Of course I could be wrong but it’s very possible. Edit: granted .5 is just as close to 0 than it is to 1 but the numbers before probably are also taken into account.

The likeliest explanation for the 1-2 dmg missing is that you would have to be *inside* the enemies point of origin (Meaning at the center of his model, which is unreachable without commands or mods)

God this has the same vibes as the Random Smash Facts series. I hella want more like this :D