AKG K712 Balanced mod - It took a long time but we now have a DIY kit available

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Custom Cans

Custom Cans

2 жыл бұрын

A quick video to show how to fit our new balanced mod for the AKG K712, K701, K702 and others.
Essentially, to make them balanced you need to swap the 3 pin socket for a 4 pin socket. Unfortunately, the original socket is not easy to remove so we have designed a new housing that will make the mod super easy
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Or if you want us to mod them for you
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@katharinamarschall5662
@katharinamarschall5662 Ай бұрын
You just helped me fixing the creaking on the right side of my headphones. I wasn't sure how to open these things, but after watching it was easy. I used lube for mechanical keayboard keys to lube the parts that caused the creaking and it's all good now.
@CustomCans
@CustomCans Ай бұрын
Good idea
@scarecrow5848
@scarecrow5848 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the video! my akg k7xx's arrived today (they're the ones in red) and I absolutely ADORE my pair! ended up fixing the headband as I had to get mine used, however 2 thin rubber bands did the job and now its (presumably) close to brand new! your tutorial for dissasembling the k702's helped me alot!
@CustomCans
@CustomCans Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@garfycat2227
@garfycat2227 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how the design is essentially the same as my 1970s K240's - i.e. using the headband to pass the signal to the other earcup! I kinda want to make mine balanced but I also don't want to mess with a classic! Great video as usual :)
@CustomCans
@CustomCans 2 жыл бұрын
Yes ... If it ain't broke, don't fix it ;)
@markbeasley1
@markbeasley1 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these videos. I'm watching them hoping to get emboldened enough to modify a couple of Grado headphones. And huge props on the De La Soul t shirt! Three Feet High and Rising is a classic.
@CustomCans
@CustomCans Жыл бұрын
Thanks ;)
@BlamBan
@BlamBan 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this.
@CustomCans
@CustomCans 2 жыл бұрын
Lol ;) yes, it turned out to be much harder to make than I expected
@shumba_the_don
@shumba_the_don Жыл бұрын
Hey great guide 🎉 thanks for sharing. Have a good one cheers
@CustomCans
@CustomCans Жыл бұрын
No Problem
@solidpunch1
@solidpunch1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. Will buy the kit to convert mine for Gilmore SuSy Dynalo amp
@CustomCans
@CustomCans Жыл бұрын
Good luck with the mod. it is not too hard but take your time
@Joonghyuk94
@Joonghyuk94 Жыл бұрын
amazing conversion kit! i love this video. i just buy it!
@CustomCans
@CustomCans Жыл бұрын
Thanks and I hope the install goes well ;)
@blobeyeordie
@blobeyeordie Жыл бұрын
Love watching these tear down and mod videos. Would you happen to know if the process would be similar to some Audio Technica cans? Specifically the A900x models. They have a single connection with wires that follow through the headband arms to the other driver, similarly to the AKGs. I have a pair that Ive owned for about a decade and would love to refresh them with a better connection solution.
@supercoolyoutubename
@supercoolyoutubename Жыл бұрын
Hi! A bit late to this, but I was wondering about the soldering of the wires to the mini 4pin xlr socket. Does the order of the pins matter? Are there any markers on the socket to tell me where each should go? Let me know when you get the chance, and thank you for the tutorial!
@CustomCans
@CustomCans Жыл бұрын
The pins are numbered 1 - 4 for a standard balanced setup it is Pin1 L+, Pin2 L-, Pin3 R+, Pin4 R-
@TheJediJoker
@TheJediJoker 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Definitely interested in this for my K702s. Will you be offering this as a service, or DIY kits only?
@CustomCans
@CustomCans 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we will be offering a send in service as well as DIY kits. Hopefully should have them up on the website after the weekend
@_chiaki_nanami_
@_chiaki_nanami_ Жыл бұрын
Can you make one with the orange accents painted a purple with shimmer/iridescent finish ? (The orange ring and the headphone support) Oh, and purple stitching on the headband itself would complete the new look!
@scarecrow5848
@scarecrow5848 Жыл бұрын
if your willing to deal with red and a slightly different, more extreme v-shaped sound profile then k7xx's in red exist, I actually ordered them 5 days ago and they came today. (again, they're k712's in red with a better v-shaped sound IMO.)
@samueljackson8502
@samueljackson8502 2 ай бұрын
Hi Jason, I need to replace the red wire in the cup. What wire would you recommended i get?
@CustomCans
@CustomCans 2 ай бұрын
Anything that is a similar thickness will be fine - we would probably use stranded hook-up wire 22-26 awg is probably a good thickness for that kind of thing
@616deathslayer616
@616deathslayer616 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm planning on buying some Custom DT770's from you, is there any reason I should go for a 3 pin over a 4 pin? You can still use non balanced cables with the 4 pin can't you and there'll be no sound different vs a 3 pin?
@CustomCans
@CustomCans 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason for going for a 3 pin is that you can get cheap standard cables that come with 3 pin - 4 pin ones normally have to be custom made. So if in the future you need a chap extra long cable from some reason - 3 pin will keep the cost down
@616deathslayer616
@616deathslayer616 2 жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans I've already ordered them, I decided on the 3 pin for ease of getting replacement cables if I ever need one.
@DavorinPalijan
@DavorinPalijan 10 ай бұрын
Do you know if K612 Pro are similar? Are the grounds joined inside headphone or in the jack, like K701? I would prefer to just replace the jack if I dont have to open headohones. Thank you.
@CustomCans
@CustomCans 10 ай бұрын
I do not know for certain but it does probably just have 3 wires in the cable
@DavorinPalijan
@DavorinPalijan 10 ай бұрын
Thx, I'll open them and get back to you. There is a chance they have 4 wire cable because its non removable.
@TennessseTimmy
@TennessseTimmy Жыл бұрын
Hey is there a way I should use a multimeter to test if my balanced connection? I don't wanna plug it in before I know it's working :D
@CustomCans
@CustomCans Жыл бұрын
Yes, you could measure the resistance between all the connections the pins you have used for L+and L- should read roughly whatever you headphones are rated at, the same for R+ and R- and then there should be no connection between any of the other combos. SO you should not read anything if you measure between any of the R pins and any of the L pins.... best to check all the combinations in-case you have a short
@calebbraun7238
@calebbraun7238 6 ай бұрын
Have you a had a slight gap issue with the CNC piece between the housing?
@CustomCans
@CustomCans 6 ай бұрын
It should clip into place with a bit of fource
@calebbraun7238
@calebbraun7238 6 ай бұрын
@@CustomCans Yeah I have a slight gap issue on both sides. I believe it needs the tabs that were on the removed piece. Is it possible to implement the tabs in your 3D print file for the conversion kit?
@chefsteve8381
@chefsteve8381 2 жыл бұрын
In your experience do you think making cans like these balanced improves the sound much, i know it can give them more power from balanced amps, cans like these don't need much to start with, love my k612 pro from a tube amp, nice work though.
@CustomCans
@CustomCans 2 жыл бұрын
There is not a huge difference - as they no longer share a ground wire you get better channel separation. It is more about the amp - some amps only have balanced outs or perform better when used balanced. This gives people the option of using these headphones with those amps or players. If you have a nice single ended amp there is no need to do this mod
@MarkoVukovic0
@MarkoVukovic0 Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans excellent mod kit, definitely going to try my hand at it. It would be great if you could offer this as an unbalanced version, i.e. with 3 pin socket and plug.
@pajda102
@pajda102 2 жыл бұрын
I have never owned AKG but I heard good things about them especially when it comes to soundstage and imaging. Which do you prefer 702 or 712 and why?
@millenwagon
@millenwagon Жыл бұрын
K702 sounds a bit wider, more analytical and dryer sounding, the k712 have a slightly shallower soundstage, a smoother more pleasant sound signature and superior build and comfort. Both great
@pajda102
@pajda102 Жыл бұрын
@@millenwagon I bought them 712 that is. Had them for couple of weeks, bought he400se like them better after getting use to sound, sent 712 back, just bought sundara and now one is going back or both cos I got my eye on Edition XS. Hmmm..... Expensive hobby, that all I can say.
@millenwagon
@millenwagon Жыл бұрын
@@pajda102 expensive hobby that can get out of hand very fast! I had the edition XS and whilst they are better than the k712 the k712 sound more natural and have a better soundstage. I sold the XS because the k712 do more things better, and hifiman qc always worried me.
@MarkoVukovic0
@MarkoVukovic0 Жыл бұрын
@@millenwagon I definitely have the GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome)! I'm going to do this mod on a pair of K701's, and then I'll definitely be hunting for those 712's!
@st200ol
@st200ol 2 жыл бұрын
Any plans to do this for the K812?
@CustomCans
@CustomCans 2 жыл бұрын
No sorry, probably not, I don't think we could do it cost effectively
@st200ol
@st200ol 2 жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans Shame but I understand. The problem is the only cheap way to get parts made these days cost effectively is to have them made in China and that approach is out of reach for most smaller companies.
@CustomCans
@CustomCans 2 жыл бұрын
Getting things manufactured in china is not too hard but there is lot of R&D to design and test the new part so... Probably about £1000 worth of time and materials on Design, prototyping and testing, £500 to buy a used pair of K812 to do the testing. On low volumes, each part including the new socket and the labour to do basic assembly and packaging would probably cost around £20 then postage and returns would probably add another few quid. If we sold them for £35 each we would have to sell over 100 to break even. Being that they are quite expensive headphones and that most people would probably not be comfortable modding them, I don't think we could sell enough to justify the time and money. But... once we get to a million subscribers on youtube, I promise, I will make the K812 part ;)
@st200ol
@st200ol 2 жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans Deal! You are already 0.42% there. :-)
@armandov-quez4479
@armandov-quez4479 Жыл бұрын
Sorry! Late to the party. This is exactly what I was looking for 2 years ago. Can I have an inverted kit custom made without the separation for the jack? I'd also need a 3 pin mini XLR, not a 4 pin. Is it possible for me to order this from you? If so, how? Thanks in advance. 🍻 Cheers! Also... I saw that you're website currency is not American dollars. Do you ship custom kits to US America? Ok that's all 👉🏽 pew! pew!
@CustomCans
@CustomCans Жыл бұрын
Yes we ship all over the world and you can pay on a card or paypal and the currency will be converted automatically. We could 3D print you a mirrored version if that is what you need
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