Yeah I would rank Massa as number 2, he was sooo close

I mean it was brilliant but Moss in '58 was also something else.

@@hamirthapar6788 His 61 season was even better. He single handedly beat the dominant ferraris at Monaco and Nurburgring in a 2 year old Lotus.

Ronnie Peterson has multiple aswell

@@hamirthapar6788 lol how can you say things like this as if you were there to watch it

After the 2009 Hungary crash massa was never the same

@@marcoroberts9462 facts

Alonso is the best. 2012 season is the clearest demonstration about it. Facts.

@@michaelvilardo hopefully We get the old Alonso back and alpine can give him good car

@@HumanSlayer that would be a dream. I really hope to see Fernando where he deserves.

I just follow the sport since season 2018 so I count myself as a new fan. I personally think alonso is a very talented and very passionate driver. That combination makes him a strong pilot but also one of the worst nightmares for a team that does not manage to fullfill or even exceed alonsos expectations. Sure he delivers. every. single. time. But he is not good at being a team leader nor creating a healthy environment that rewards taking risks for a huge benefit. And people often underestimate the importance of such skills for a sucessfull f1 team.

@@invalid8774 thats just plain stupid. Why do you think both McLaren and Renault signed him again? All that "he's not a team player" is bs

@@javi3266 He actually got a point look at his previous teammates, Fisichella, Hamilton, Massa, Piquet jr those didn’t got along well with Alonso but at least... McLaren really fucked up their car between 2015 and the 2018 sorry about my Frenglish but he should also had done a better job then as a 2 time champion and 4 time vice champion

I wish he was a better team player. He’s a good driver but he’s got a crap personality.

@@kyleslater5245 that’s simply not true, he’s been signed by renault 3 times now, and mclaren twice, all that “crap personality” and “bad team player” was really dumb, all his colleagues besides the other driver all loved him, his engineer in ferrari even followed him to mclaren

Are you talking about massa or the car?

@@apocalimp2401 looooool

@@apocalimp2401 oof 😅😅😅

Now that is a comment worth of a championship!

😂😂

I see why but being an alonso fan it just hurt worse knowing he was so good and was held back by yet another shit car. And its not like it got better after that for him.

Yup. Absolutely in agreement.

I agree. vettel didnt deserve to win the 2010 and 2012 championships.

@@prisonermonkeys8613 I would say that Vettel deserved them, but Alonso deserved them more

@@prisonermonkeys8613 both of them deserved it ngl but knowing Alonso tried so hard to reach that level that title is definitely his if Ferrari gave him a much competitive car

He was about to be champion, but Grosjean accident in Spa was the beginning of the end of the dream of winning a Championship in Ferrari

@Schuka Metin2 Lol if you are salty about Raikkonen losing the 2005 championship blame McLaren, they built a shit car that blew up all the time. I don't get why people get salty about Alonso's 2005 championship what was he supposed to do? Push Kimi's broken car over the line like in that Pixar movie?

@Schuka Metin2you're right, they're all facts

"Alonso truly" hahahaha k im such a dumb xd

@Schuka Metin2 Yes true

Same

I like the sound of the f2012

@@hankfields1951 🤤🤤🤤👍🏻

Me too, some how watching him in it fighting his heard out maked the car lovelt for me. I didnt mind the nose, loved the colors and his helmet. The best seasson ever.

I found the 2010-2011 ferrari especially good with massa's lime helmut, so I love mick Schumacher's helmut as well

Shumacher 2002 or 1998 you want did

You shouldn’t award greatest drive by a driver over a season if they didn’t win

@@raheem201231 why not? That's a dumb as fuck comment

@@raheem201231 that is really dumb wow

What about Vettel in 2013? That was surely one of the greatest performances by a driver ever, especially in the second part of the season.

Being a fan is hard

@@Bearical agreed

2010 was fully deserved but 2012 tho damn he should’ve won

aston martin

2023 has come

No. He underperformed in quali as Pat Fry said and choked a 40 point lead.

@@nuvolari6668 ok mr drive to survive fan

@@nuvolari6668 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5hmqqp-zKrHoIk.html Yes? Alonso made the car much better than it was

@@nuvolari6668 yes you are kimi fan but is it necessary to hate someone because you love any other driver

@@nuvolari6668 to be fair if he wasn’t crashed out by grosjean he would have probably won the title.

He was close to become the best driver in history. Had he won that would have been the best championship of all time.

thanks to grosjean in belgium

@@ignls8809 I mean, its still one of the best seasons ever and alonso played and still plays the biggest role for it

@@ignls8809 Alonso had luck many times, he won two races when Vettel suffered engine failure .

hell yes, he lost it and they still talk about it a decade later... Immagine if he would have won it.

*better

Overrated. The car wasn't that bad if it can challenge for the title until the last GP. Massa was just not having it. If another driver were put aside Alonso, he would match Alonso.

@@salmanfarruz ok so you are telling me Massa is shit? Lol this guys nearly best Hamilton, he is top notch

@@jolyonpalmer4527 You really think that? Mclaren 08 was a tad bit slower than Ferrari 08. Kimi was leading the championship till July and was looking solid when the whole Santander controversy went down... Ferrari had to prioritize Massa over Kimi because they wanted the Santander money and were forced to replace Kimi with Alonso.

no, why vettels championships mean nothing and they are all luck

he’s still got it. el plan 2022

@@AlexMitoMedia For real, dude was holding back Lewis hamilton in the 6th slowest car on old hard tyres for 11 laps, smh

​@@AlexMitoMediaEl Plan 2.0 in 2023

Not even that, alonso would have only had to finish 7th in either races to take the title by ONE point.

Case in point... If Vettel didn't DNF from the lead in Valencia (which was given to Alonso in the first place), or if he didn't receive a puncture from a backmarker in Malaysia that put him out of the points, if he also didn't DNF in Monza from 4th place and if he wasn't crashed into in Brazil... You have to look at both sides. And also his ridiculous 25 second penalty in Germany. Plus, in Japan, Alonso was kind of at fault in that incident. He was unlucky in Belgium yes, but the likelyhood of him winning that race was quite hard. The McLaren was really on a league of it's own that race with Button and Vettel himself catapulted from 11th to 2nd. Also Hamilton himself retired from the lead like 3 or 4x that season and had his pit-stops screwed in quite a few races. Under normal circumstances, this would've been a Hamilton vs Vettel fight. Not taking away credit from Alonso, he was a monster, best driver in that season for sure. But as Aldas stated in the video, and it's a fact, the Ferrari had 0 RELIABILITY issues, and also had very good tyre wear compared to McLaren and Red Bull for some reason, and contrary to what we see these days, Ferrari a lot of the time nailed their strategys... AND, Massa was LITERALLY used as a wingman that whole season. Ferrari even made him have a gearbox failure so that he could get a grid penalty to make Alonso get another place higher up on the grid. And... of course... The competitiveness of the cars that whole season. The cars were actually similar to each other in pace in a lot of races. Even in Brazil, Hulkenburg in a Force India was actually having MORE PACE than BOTH McLarens... Perez in Malaysia finished 2nd and had the best pace of that race. Maldonnado winning in a Williams, Rosberg winning with his Mercedes. Lotus with their very good package as well taking a lot of times points away from McLaren and Red Bull. There were a ton more circumstances involved that made Alonso fight for the title. Him being on top of his form was probably the biggest reason, yes, but it wasn't the only one. This sport is still a team game. If your pit crew, strategists, mechanics, team principal, screw up, it affects the championship.

@@grimm6jack those DNFs were really costly and unfortunate fo r Hamilton that year. Denied him at least 50 points and should’ve been a championship contender

@@grimm6jack Surely they had to be a lot of things involved to fight with a car that in that couldn't even make q3 in the beginning of the season and was overall maximum the 4th fastest car for the title. But in terms of luck Alonso even had a disatvantage compared to Vettel. Vettel got a penalty in Italy. He probablly wouldn't have scored any points there. Alonso would have easily won in Italy without the mechanical problem in Qualifying In Canada Ferrari threw away a win for Alonso with the wrong Strategy. In Monaco Ferrari could have made Massa stay out to block Vettel and Vettel wouldn't have gained any position. And in Brazil Vettel turned into Senna und was lucky that nobody drove into his car. In addition to that Vettel was the one profiting from Hamilton DNFs (like Singapur)

@@alexhaas2185 Vettel turning into Senna!? It was Senna who hit Vettel.

"Mistakes make you stronger" I think you are actually very buff irl

@@cresbalundo8845 HAH no! I'm a Skinny 14 year old who can only do 50 push ups max at one go

@@zethyuen8859 Damn im a bit fat and big dude in general and can barely do 25 push ups in one go lol

@@adrianramos9644 if you really are fat, 25 push ups is really good.

He'd be unstoppable

Lmao Vettel would have got sh*t on so hard,just like all the last years once he didnt have the fastest car by far

@@jav1843 2018?

If Alonso had the red bull that year he would have won the title 2 races before the season ended

Actually, the cars weren't as different as you may think. Red Bull was the 2nd fastest and Ferrari was 4th fastest. Notice how McLaren has more wins. I still think Fernando's drive was the greatest of the season but anyone with a McLaren or a Lotus could have won against Seb had they been good enough. You have to remember that Red Bull had lots of reliability issues. If Ferrari had managed to get their car to McLaren's level, Fernando would have got the title as easily as Seb did in 2013 imo.

Yeah but that Ferrari was never a 2nd best car....not even 3rd best in half the season

@@souldevil6997 Yup, Lotus had 3 iterations of a blown diffuser, the last being forward facing hidden behind the barge boards and was the best solution that season. With Kimi, Schuf(7), Nando(2), SEb(2), JB, LH, that is 14 WDC's present on the grid who all but Schuf (sad as first Merc win would have been the appropriate end) won a race in 2012. A podium in Spa would have sealed his 3rd title by the end, no doubt.

Yes on that one good buddy, since 1987 for me.

It looks cool af

I agree it’s beautiful

I was widowed along with our 4 1/2 yr old daughter 8 years previous and your words and our reactions were absolutely identical. Thanks for sharing and thanks to Nando. Good days to you brother.

A for effort but 5 plus 2 is 7 lol. No worries mate love all of your videos

2 + 5 = 8 because 2=1

@@TakodaTGL indeed

The 2003 McLaren was worse than the F2012. Kimi performed a miracle in a ONE YEAR OLD CAR in 2003.

Looks like no 5 in a ferrari is a unlucky number

Vettel in 2013 and shumacher in 2004 were better imo

@@thebarcaboardroom406 those were dominant cars, like merc 2020

But they still set records that the "goat" hamilton is yet to come close to.

Rosberg 82 and Piquet 83 actually WON the title in worse cars. Williams 82 finished 4th in the constructors and in 83 Bramham were 3rd. These are the only times EVER a world champion has not had a car finishing in the top 2 in the constructors

@@nickwall2497 I think the 1983 Branham , by the last few races of the season, was the best car of the year. Their race pace was unbelievable

That could be a cool idea. Of the top of my head I'd say the 2005 and 2012 McLaren, and 2018 Ferrari would be up there for me as well

@@Aldas001 1976 Ferrari

1991 Williams, 1982 Renault, 1978 Brabham ‘fan car’, 1982 Ferrari, 2009 Red Bull

@@Aldas001 Oh for sure! The McLarens in those years were super unreliable. Arguably cost Kimi and Lewis an extra title each and went on to leave the team the following year or two later. On top of all the other cars mentioned in the replies, the 1999 and 2006 Ferrari are worthy mentions also. We could have been looking at Schumi having an 8th world title rather than the 7th titles he has.

@@Aldas001 yeap, that shows how many championship mclaren have miss by unreliabilty or bad judgment. 2007 mclaren, another clear one.

Schumi 2002 was also pretty damn epic

Kimi losing by only two points in a year old car was also the stuff of legends

Jim Clark

Hmm hamilton for me is not top3. Fangio, Schumacher, ayrton senna

Alonso is superior to compare Hamilton

@@tatum6727 Yes,we saw in 2007

@@BladeRunner031 yes after 2008 there was no f1 till the hybrid engines came. Right..?

What are you doing, step-nose?

This is so wrong.

@@ashutoshuniyal198 not its not

Oh dear...

F1 2014

Well, first of all the RB8 was the worst car that won a title in the 2010s and the McLaren was unreliable. That Ferrari was a solid car.

@@saiyerugara9038 by what stretch of your imagination was the rb8 the worst car of the 2010’s? it was only by fortune that no one seemed to want to win a race in 2012 that ferrari was ever in that position to begin with

@@CHERN0BYLCH1LD I didn't say the worst car of the 2010s; I said the worst championship-winning car of the 2010s which it was.

@@saiyerugara9038 i stand by it, the rb8 was far from the worst championship winning car, if that ferrari won it would have been the worst by a comfortable margin, Alonso basically carried that car through 2012, arguably the lotus was probably out right faster than the ferrari in the right hands

@@CHERN0BYLCH1LD It was the worst championship-winning car of the 2010s. The RB6 was better as well as the W09 and W08 from Mercedes.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/npadZpOi3JrLZqM.html Here you go

@@SkodaYetiFan Thanks

vettel won 5 races

@@magnussencube yeah

Glad someone else noticed this

@@georgeprice5368 vettel also won 5

@@robleurni8420 and Button took pole in Belgium

Schumacher in 2006 and alonso in 2010

It might be an unpopular one but I think 2017 might be Vettel's best season in his career. It is the only season that he was the underdog in a close title fight and he actually did better than what the final standings show. He drove with good consistency and without mistakes. The luck and reliability of the machine were the deciding factors in the end but if he didn't suffer from them we would see a title decider. 2011 and 2013 are statistically his best seasons but he just needed to beat Webber. Considering he barely won 2010 and 2012 and his gap to Webber wasn't as big as their other seasons together, no need to say they weren't impressive season. 2018 is a total failure from him, despite having an equal car this time, he was far from his 17 level and made many mistakes. 2008 is also very impressive but doing great in midfield is not comparable to a title challenge.

@@babw I'd argue 2015 was even better still. Stayed in contention for most of the season and very very nearly beat Rosberg in a car that wasn't even on the same planet as the Merc

@@robertharrington703 Yes, it is also very strong. Also, he basically matched Alonso's last season in terms of how they outperformed Kimi.

Schumacher 1996,1997,1998 and 2006 where all better than Vettels choking in 2017. Great season?? by causing crashes and getting the penalty in Baku. He lost it.

In 2022 they’ll be winning again But this year probably not, they’ll need some luck

@@SamuelSantos_ no

No,I seriously hope it is a long long time before they win again,they don't deserve it.

@@filipposstavro1233 why? Every team deserves to win. Look at how much work they did to come back to be the 3rd best car this year. That’s dedication.

@@SamuelSantos_ *happy Baku noises*

Exactly how i feel too

he always seemed underwhelming to me , compared to the best , inconsistent enough to lose titles just off the back of his driving , iirc that might've just been the farari being harder to drive though

He was okay. Probably similar to Barrichello, Webber and Bottas I.e. very good number 2 not quite a number 1.

@@Marcusjnmc look at 2008. He was clearly a great driver, losing the championship in the last corner because Glock was going slowly. He showed he has What it took to beat the best drivers so I'd say he was good

He was stilla decent druver

well 2005 and 2006 he didn't have the fastest car and he won. 2010 it went to do a decider and he didn't have the fastest car. 2007 he finished 2nd by 1 point. he's proven time and time again he's much much better than what the stats say. so many f1 journalists these days weren't around to see vintage alonso. they only know alonso in mclaren so they don't have a clue how good he is. they only know hamilton in a total dominant car.

:D

Strongest GP2 engine spirit in F1

@Wind Rose Given he failed to win championships and was driving a car with barely any power.. I wouldn't either. 2012 Hurt Alonso m8. He should have won.. I still think Grosjean should have been given a race ban for that bs he did in Belgium.

yes! valencia 12 was beautiful, that restart and the grosjean overtake... *-*

2012 was more unpredictable than 2020

@@Willie_Pete_Was_Here i think he was talking of unpredictability as in the RNG

That has a name: the 2021 season.

@@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE damn ur right😭

Alonso would have destroyed him. Kubica was overrated.

@@rupertpupkin9630 how he was overrated? Yeah alonso would destroy him but how kubica was overrated? Explain

@@rupertpupkin9630 one of the most overrated drivers ever imo

@@1pfuller you’re nuts, he was easily capable of winning a title if he didn’t have his accident

@@adammarjanovic "easily capable" you say lol 🤦‍♂️

Step nose I'm stuck

@@leoarevalo6786step nose I'm stuck in the barrier again, help.

We have never seen Lewis ALMOST win a world championship with an inferior car... Schumacher? YES. Alonso? YES.

@@georgegurdjieffsgrandson9592 yes mclaren 08 when he schooled shitkonen and Massa. Alonso praises and sees Hamilton as a better driver compared to Vettel

@@AZBCDEE was it worse? It had better reliability and McLaren operated better as a team, plus even Heikki won and took poles.

​@@AZBCDEE hi hater

@@samyakjain4302 it's Sparksly, one of Alonso's biggest haters on this platform.

@@samp3180 at least McLaren is looking decent this year so far

Rosberg 82 and Piquet 83 actually WON the title in worse cars. Williams 82 finished 4th in the constructors and in 83 Bramham were 3rd. These are the only times EVER a world champion has not had a car finishing in the top 2 in the constructors

Tbh i would say that the 2003 McLaren was actually faster than the Ferrari, but it had massive reliability issues that made Kimi lose that year

@@FoggyNBS Exactly Mclaren was faster than Ferrari due to Michelin tyres

The 03 McLaren is a weird one, I wouldn't necessarily say it's a "bad car". Kimi just had a strange season only winning one race and coming 2nd 7 times and getting unlucky with some DNF's. But still mega to get it to a title decider.

There was the 1981 Ligier too, it only finished fourth in the contructors’ but Jacques Laffite fought for the title until the final race in it (he also scored 100% of the team’s points)

Nice 10pm upload for me

...much later than before...

@@robertosotogomez9772 that comment is good. Much funnier than before

Then why didn't he end up like Stewart, Lauda, Prost, Senna and Hamilton - in the best car?? The cream always rises to the top. Sooner or later. Gods also don't whine when the car is no good.

@@paulallen8109 Hard to tell since your probably beloved driver has been always in a good car. You can still be a fan of a driver, without hating on others. Alonso's 2012 season was insane, a true proof of how good he actually is, he is among the greatest ever.

@@paulallen8109 In all fairness, quite a many drivers complain about their car. Bad or not. Lewis too, especially in his younger days. Fernando also never really had a dominant car. The R25 might have been his best but even then then the title fight with Kimi was very fierce.

@@paulallen8109 Alonso never had the best car in his hole career and it still won 2 titles

Overrated. The car wasn't that bad if it can challenge for the title until the last GP. Massa was just not having it. If another driver were put aside Alonso, he would match Alonso.

Yes! He said that in an interview for the F1 podcast. He was looking at Massa who was in tears because of the podium he managed to get. It had nothing to do with Vettel's title winning. Alonso probably already knew he had lost the championship by that point because his team would have told him through the radio right after they crossed the finish line.

A 0.50 cent part of the spring broke. Yes I found it amazing that a 0.50 cent piece makes it on to an F1 car

have you found out yet

He still is

If Frentzen hadn't retire on Nurburgring, he would have real chances of winning the '99 title for sure. The car was good enough to capitalise the errors made by McLaren and Ferrari. -He and his race engineer (Sam Michael) made a silly error on that race, after the pitstop Sam didn't told Frentzen about disabling the anti-stall system and the car lose drive on the exit. Heinz though it was an hydraulic or electrical problem and retired, but disabling the system itself would have get things back to normal. They were under a lot of pressure. -Now that's a sad history...

8 out of 12 F1 team bosses voted Fernando Alonso the 'Driver of the Year' for 2012 (alo also won it in 2010) with a 72 point margin win. the largest margin since the award started in the 80s

When she doesnt text you back

I thought it was because he managed to get a podium in his own country. Am I wrong?

@@adriasilvestre5392 he did got a podium in 2007 already, he was crying because he lost the championship by the smallest of margins, and in the last lap as well

@@adriasilvestre5392 you are right to some extent. It was that and the fact that felipe had had a very difficult season. He's gone on to say in an interview later that he was just overwhelmed by the fact that he hadn't had a great season at all and this podium (only the second of the season for felipe) meant a lot as it was some sort of achievement after some really difficult times. Felipe was just exhausted by the end of the season.

Nah Kimi was on it that season, wasn't he also in the title fight?

I mean, kinda? He dropped out of if after Abu Dhabi with still two more races to go, and he won that race. Although finishing 74 points off Sebastian is kind of an achievement in itself.

kimi turned from a once in a decade talent to an average midfield driver after he left...

@π And Racing Point were actually faster than red bull at some circuits (the driver made the difference).

@π yet right now Perez performing same in RB as he did racing point last year. Based on mini sectors, racing point had pace to challenge RB last year on many circuits. Max just did incredible vs car driving difficulty and car issues that season, and RP didn't have the drivers. And note RB now much faster vs their performance from previous season.

@π Actually, the red bull was a disaster. Yes, it could produce pace, but the steering was messed up (random understeer/oversteer from lap to lap). It was a serious issue with the car, and the engine lacked straight line pace from the other cars too by far. Albon does the car pretty much how the team were expecting. They themselves were shocked at how Max was even able to drive it.

Yeah, but that was also partly because of the points system, which massively underrated race wins. Schumacher taking 6 wins vs Raikkonens 1 single win, realistically Kimi shouldn’t have been in title contention.

Thing is, he benefited from the FIA’s first attempt to nerf Ferrari and the new scoring system where 2nd place gets you 8 points

Only 18. Also if Alonso was still there the car may not be necessarily good despite the fact that Alonso had greater consistency than Vettel.

no way they did not have as hot at 17

This is also what ferrari engineers have said.

Pure Facts. No question fernando could've won the title with the 2017 & 2018 ferrari. In 2017, he would've definitely pushed it, at least, to a title decider. 2018, he would have definitely won.

I don’t think so, Mercedes were on another level after the mid season breaks.

Okk but nando in that redbull would not had allowed someone to be that close in championship...😂