Algimech AGM-1: A Short-Lived Italian 9mm Bullpup

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Algimech AGM-1: A Short-Lived Italian 9mm Bullpup

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In the mid 1980s, an Italian designer named Alphonso Giambelli developed a bullpup pistol-caliber carbine with hopes of selling it to Italian law enforcement. That never happened, but the gun was offered on the commercial civil market as the semiauto AGM-1 by a company named Algimech (after ALphonso GIambelli). At least a handful of these carbines came into the US before the 1989 assault weapons import ban, chambered for 9mm Parabellum and 9x21mm. they were also offered in a variety of other calibers (.45 ACP, .45 HP, .22LR, .22 WMR) but it is unclear if any of those were ever manufactured.
The AGM-1 has an 18" barrel and uses slightly modified Browning High Power magazines for both 9x19 and 9x21mm. The barrel is easily removed, and there is nothing particularly complex about its design.
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@Outstralian 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like somebody started drawing a SPAS-12 from memory and then gave up and started drawing an L85 but then also gave up.

@denisonsmock5456 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like something I drew as a kid

@RaptorJesus 2 жыл бұрын

I mean they're Italians, giving up multiple times on a task checks out.

@GondolaofBenisCity 2 жыл бұрын

*SPAS-15

@angelherrera3924 2 жыл бұрын

Usas 12 as well

@nathanlarson7408 2 жыл бұрын

More like a SPAS-15...but yes it does kinda look like that 😁

@MrBairiko 2 жыл бұрын

I still love how the Pancor Jackhammer is listed by name as being banned in Canada too, despite there only being... you know, one functioning gun in existence. But hey, it's banned :D

@ozdavemcgee2079 2 жыл бұрын

Similar to EM1 and EM2. Both listed as illegal in Australia🤣🤣

@moosetom1588 2 жыл бұрын

Same as the HnK g11 it's a lul fest

@brvtalbeastboi5910 2 жыл бұрын

That's cause it's OP dude 😂

@justinlance4174 2 жыл бұрын

@@ozdavemcgee2079 em2 was adopted by the British temporarily. Over 8000were made. Not just 1.

@TwistedKestrel 2 жыл бұрын

Now that you mention it, I don't think I see the S-51 self-propelled gun listed in the Firearms Act. Drafting a letter to parliament, can anybody think of anything else that's missing?

@TacticalEd 2 жыл бұрын

The G11 being outlawed in Canada is the result of the authorities watching Demolition Man and believing the real G11 had the same function as in the movie.

@calvingreene90 2 жыл бұрын

That is unfortunately believable.

@derekbowbrick6233 2 жыл бұрын

Oui, c'est vrai.

@Immopimmo 2 жыл бұрын

@@FlymanMS LOL yeah. Where I live you can legally purchase and own any medieval weapon, but things as throwing stars, nunchaku and butterfly knives are illegal because of 80-90's movies

@PipMan1101 2 жыл бұрын

@@Immopimmo Same in the UK, 'ninja' style weapons are banned because of the TMNT craze in the 80s.

@nahyanrajee198 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that I believed this for a second says a lot

@herrcobblermachen 2 жыл бұрын

It was Silver Bullet Ltd 1901 Airport Road in Minden Nevada. That'd be in Douglas County (DC)

@starcoloneldunadansonoft501 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@bioforce5 2 жыл бұрын

This seems like a surprisingly well thought out bullpup, especially for how old it is. Combine that with it being available in a bunch of different cartridges, I'm kind of surprised that it wound up being a low production number gun. I think it would be cool to have one of these today, let alone back when they were brand new.

@jonathanlunger2775 2 жыл бұрын

People still don't really buy bullpups today, inspite of seemingly everyone liking the idea of a smaller package. If you look back in history where full-sized rifles were becoming full size battle rifles, were becoming the full size, early "assault rifle" it makes sense that people didn't see value in a gun that was probably expensive and certainly was viewed as underpowered as a primary arm when the prevailing theory was still that a full length rifle worked just fine anyway.

@beargillium2369 2 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine really depends on the MSRP and competition

@andrewgates9333 2 жыл бұрын

No one wanted a bullpup pcc. Not even Britain with homeland manufacture.

@andersjjensen 2 жыл бұрын

This has no real appeal as long as it is not select fire. It's basically a hand gun with a shoulder stock... and a bit longer barrel.

@bioforce5 2 жыл бұрын

@@andersjjensen Maybe it has no appeal to you, but pistol caliber carbines are very popular. Also, I'm curious to know how massive the handguns you must shoot are if you think an 18 inch barrel is "a bit longer" lol.

@jacobbalensiefer3846 2 жыл бұрын

That’s an 80s henchmen gun if I ever saw one.

@guillaumeb5511 2 жыл бұрын

And now I see it in the hands of Al Leong. Hide your candy bars, people !

@ericstromberg9608 2 жыл бұрын

Hail COBRA Leader!

@PrototypeSpaceMonkey 2 жыл бұрын

The kind of gun that's kind of crap but you end up using for most of the videogame anyway because all the henchmen drop ammo for it.

@SA-xf1eb 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@tafino 2 жыл бұрын

Mad respect for the Italians for always keeping it trendy. I can see Clark Griswald walking out of the store smiling with this thing in hand.

@alexanderstrickland9036 2 жыл бұрын

Ok. That was funny

@VMEMotor5 2 жыл бұрын

"It is too a real gun. It's a Magnum PI."

@geodkyt 2 жыл бұрын

I'm honestly surprised I didn't see these all over movie screens in the 1990s, as they look like something a prop house would snap up for the look alone.

@Dogbertious 2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, this thing screams sci-fi rifle to me. Remove the barrel, add some electronic looking doodads and you've got a reasonable looking bad guy gun for your goons.

@geodkyt 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dogbertious Heck, use it with the barrel installed. Have a SOT prophouse convert it to full auto and blank adapt it, and use it as some cool new "caseless rifle" for a near future flick.

@njones420 2 жыл бұрын

It's not a million miles from a Morita...just a bit smaller

@enricopaolocoronado2511 2 жыл бұрын

This looks like something you'd see in an 80's sci-fi film much like the Muzzlelite bullpup frames for the Ruger Mini-14s.

@VMEMotor5 2 жыл бұрын

I'd forgotten about those Muzzlelite frames. A local shop had one in the early 90s that seemed to sit on the shelf for years.

@NameNotAlreadyTaken2 2 жыл бұрын

But the Italian sci-fi movies were ALSO already all using Beretta M12s.

@wilemelliott 2 жыл бұрын

@@VMEMotor5 because they're crap! Had one on a Mini-30...damn thing would pop the take down latch during recoil and then I'd have to unscrew the clam shell body to get in and lock it back in.

@AshleyPomeroy 2 жыл бұрын

@@NameNotAlreadyTaken2 "Leave the Bronx!"

@tucker1012 2 жыл бұрын

*Starship Troopers?*

@imanijones10 2 жыл бұрын

Ian just.. Thank you for doing your thing the way you do it for all these years! The mechanical nerd in me has always appreciated your work on youtube.

@dashingdave2665 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, It has helped expand my engineering knowledge vastly

@billmccrackin8825 2 жыл бұрын

This firearm seems quite well thought out for such a low production unit. Other than the coil spring attached to a seemingly identical spring in the trigger group it seems for the time to be pretty acceptable rifle. Thanks Ian!

@ravener96 2 жыл бұрын

The caliber is what it is, its a PCC. Weird thing to conplain about

@saintleibowitz8401 2 жыл бұрын

my guess is the double springs were a user repair. but tbh i have no clue.

@RedXlV 2 жыл бұрын

@@FlymanMS The caliber is because it was originally meant to be a submachine gun. It's in the worldwide standard caliber for such weapons.

@nathaneddy502 2 жыл бұрын

Italy generally do make good guns some people forget that Berretta is Italian even during ww1 and ww2 Italian weapons were generally extremely high quality. Until ofc the material shortages.

@Dannymart_88445 2 жыл бұрын

@@nathaneddy502 they also invented the submachinegun and make the best shotguns (Benelli 1014, Franchi SPAS 12).

@AmraamSidewinder9x 2 жыл бұрын

I have one. It’s chambered in 9x18mm police wich of course has nothing in common with 9x18mm Makarov.

@keyhole9601 2 жыл бұрын

At the beginning of the production the carbine was not simple blow back action but was a delayed below back. The delayed action was made by spring loaded ball bearing (I don't remember where) between the bolt and the receiver.

@DreadNought0255 2 жыл бұрын

That's cool. When you look at the bolt, you see there's some kind of a plug on the side filling a hole. Seems likely that that is where the bearing delay system could of been. I don't see any other reason for there to be a hole to plug in that spot and it does not appear to be a component.

@thetriode 2 жыл бұрын

@LabRat Knatz Not just working but how well it worked; Some actions are better than others I'm sure, the Savage 1907's action supposedly provides minimal delay as an example.

@alexandermarinin7036 2 жыл бұрын

Every extra bit makes the system less reliable. So why bother if it works ok with just some extra mass

@alexandermarinin7036 2 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine extractor breakage is one of the most common malfunctions. They should use a wooden stick, like in good old days. Wooden stick never fails, and if it breaks - you getting two wooden sticks

@keyhole9601 2 жыл бұрын

@@DreadNought0255 I've just week memory, but I remember that the spring loaded ball was placed on the top of the bolt... The system was not so reliable so ALGIMEC changed to the straight Blow back . Furthermore, the furniture of the very first production was in light brown wood... Then plastic. Probably very few samples where made in the Italian .45 HP available in the Italian market at that time.

@jimmyrustler8983 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like a QBZ-97 that got shrunk in the wash.

@SamGray 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the people who "thumbs down" are indicating that they dislike the firearms? Obviously, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the videos, as the format and presentation are top notch.

@VMEMotor5 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure that there are anti gunners who go around thumbs downing gun related content. Funny thing is, even a thumbs down helps the algorithm.

@SamGray 2 жыл бұрын

I could just never understand why someone would waste their time watching something they don't like. There's obviously something for everyone to enjoy, so why try to be asinine on purpose? I suppose it's the way of the world. I'll go ask my lady if I can buy a FW t-shirt to make up for them.

@munkSWE88 2 жыл бұрын

Usually bots.

@kw9849 2 жыл бұрын

They might just hate bullpups!

@RC000000000 2 жыл бұрын

@@justme_gb why would you do that? It's a waste of time and just promotes their video more

@jakecoulson7556 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like an ever more cursed QBZ, and I wasn’t aware that was possible

@quangnguyenhorus3752 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty cool sci-fi looking weapon. Almost made me think it was from South Africa.

@matthewscott3855 2 жыл бұрын

There is a company named Silver Bullet in Gardnerville, Douglas County, NV but it’s a photography company

@geodkyt 2 жыл бұрын

Most of the "by name" assault weapon ban lists were created by legislative staffers going through gun magazines and catalogs, and going. "Yeah, that one looks scary!" While I don't remember these *at all*, I wouldn't be surprised if, between puff pieces in gun magazines and the Gun Digest annuals, it wasn't featured fairly often. After all, at the time, the only 9mm long guns I was really interested in at the time were the relative merits of the CAR15 9mm, MP5, Ingram, Steyr, and Uzi in their full auto configurations.

@RagingBull8395 2 жыл бұрын

A friend got his hands on one of those in 9mm Police (9x21) last year. I was impressed as it sounded like it was supressed without any supressor! Quietest gun i've ever heard outside .22lr silenced stuff!

@BatCaveOz 2 жыл бұрын

I've never seen or shot an Algimech AGM-1, but as a straight blowback 9x21 I am unsure how it could remotely approach a suppressed 22LR regarding quietness. Any thoughts on this quietness was achieved?

@Aliyah_666 2 жыл бұрын

How? Not calling you a liar but I don't think it would sound THAT quiet. Not without its own suppressor and subsonic ammo.

@RagingBull8395 2 жыл бұрын

i have absolutely no idea how it was possible, we shot on an outdoor range with some "normal" ammo (9mm police is really scarce in Switzerland so we where lucky to have grabbed 2 old boxes, can not quite remember the grs tho) and we where really surprised by the sound! We shot it without ear pro cause it was so quiet. i'll see if we can find some more ammo to film the shooting.

@RagingBull8395 2 жыл бұрын

now that i think about it, we may need to take the barrel appart to check if there is no ports in in with the intend to use the tube where it sits as some kind of suppressor... Note that his is an original italian made one.

@Steve_I 2 жыл бұрын

@@RagingBull8395 If you can get 9x19 easily you could try that. A lot of people shoot 9x19 in a 9x21.

@Stray03 2 жыл бұрын

The govt in canada just grabbed a bunch of gun magazines and circled what they found scary. the gun digests were useful for that. The G11 was the cover image of one of the gun magazines at that time period, they probably saw it there. I should go dig it up, I have one around somewhere (Magazine I mean, unfortunately not the rifle).

@shooteveryday1841 2 жыл бұрын

Dear Keltec or PSA. I would buy one of these in 45acp with a threaded barrel feeding from UMP or Grease gun mags

@sparky6855 2 жыл бұрын

Yet another example of my childhood doodles realized!

@MrNacho453 2 жыл бұрын

This is a weird looking weapon and I love it.

@nicaww2011 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the great videos Ian! I can only imagine Beretta took some inspiration from this to put in the cx4. Also the plastic furniture and pcc format brings me to the hi-point bullpup conversion from high tower armory

@coreymerrill3257 2 жыл бұрын

Before he got busted for gun running in Nicaragua , an ex local gun dealer had one of these on his wall. But I was not yet old enough to buy guns then.

@cleidsonaraujopeixoto163 2 жыл бұрын

Is this ALGIMEC the same that made "Léon Custom" compensators for the Beretta M9/92?

@TraTranc 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, "Alfonso Giambelli Meccanica S.r.l." out of Milan, Italy.

@pop483yt7 2 жыл бұрын

Hope Ian has a great day, keep it up man

@AftermathGunClub 2 жыл бұрын

Happy to see this; I've been waiting for this to drop since the email.

@heikkiremes5661 2 жыл бұрын

My brain: the 80's was 20 years ago. Damn.

@WhuDhat 2 жыл бұрын

Oh Italy how you bless us with squared silhouettes and sharp lines, and wonderful symmetry. praise to the 90° angle

@sebastianbrahmer1221 2 жыл бұрын

They used this for a prop in the great movie “Spaceballs” and other few random’s out there!

@Jesses001 2 жыл бұрын

I hate it when good designs never take off. This rifle not only looks rather attractive, but the caliber conversion abilities due to the design are wonderful. You can very easily change the barrel, bolt, magazine well, and charging handle and the only tool needed is an Allen key for the barrel.

@whatTheFup 2 жыл бұрын

One of these in .22LR would be a fun plinking toy

@Nicholas_Schaeffer 2 жыл бұрын

As a resident of New Jersey, I am quite ashamed that my state has banned this really peculiar and interesting bullpup carbine. I dream of becoming governor and making it a machine gun importation haven, a man can only dream.

@OneShotNick92 2 жыл бұрын

Algimech? Are they the ones who made the compensator for the beretta pistols on the movie Leon the professional?

@hermatred572 2 жыл бұрын

Some hasty image searches say yes

@cleidsonaraujopeixoto163 2 жыл бұрын

Same question here, Chap.

@zachbrummett8309 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like an em2 m16 and paulse rifle from aliens got up to some debauchery

@zachbrummett8309 2 жыл бұрын

They weirdly enough just announced this gun I had never heard of as a dlc weapon in call of duty and now ian makes a video on it

@Rhapsodos_X 2 жыл бұрын

Milan does put out some of the most dynamic styles

@danman7699 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone else feel that video game devs need to watch this channel and start introducing these beautifully made weapons in their games ?

@princecharon 2 жыл бұрын

I now have a vague desire to see a movie in which criminals with H&K G11s are a serious problem in Canada. Possibly with the Mounties trying to find out where the ammo for them is coming from.

@chrisspencer6502 2 жыл бұрын

Is that official nomenclature "Italian not quite the same as 45acp"

@MrSquirrelboy 2 жыл бұрын

Spaghetti/Spaghetti-O

@georgesmith5708 2 жыл бұрын

Actually .45 HP is not italian, but from Austria. HP stays for Hirtenberger Patronen. It's exactly like a .45 but with a slightly shorter case. It was developed in the eighties for those Countries were regular .45 ACP was prohibited. Exactly as 9x21 against 9x19 Parabellum. It is now fully obsolete.

@ArcturusOTE 2 жыл бұрын

@@georgesmith5708 Why is it obsolete?

@georgesmith5708 2 жыл бұрын

@@ArcturusOTE nobody want it now, since regular .45 ACP became finally legal by us too.

@georgesmith5708 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheHiddenPart mitico Armando Piscetta! R.I.P. Trovi ancora i 45HP di fabbrica?

@RedXlV 2 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing that import mark really does refer to Douglas County, Nevada. And that the county rather than a city is on the mark because the importer was in more or less the middle of nowhere, outside of any city's limits. And "Silver Bullet" is probably the importer's name.

@mjriemen 2 жыл бұрын

I would imagine that they were in Douglas County, but probably on the boarder with California. Probably up by Lake Tahoe. I dont know what the legalities are/were concerning importing guns, but I would guess that some guns that may have been legal to own in California were not legal to actually import to California, but legal to transfer from Nevada to California. However who knows? Not much else out in that part of the State except for the Gateway to Lake Tahoe.

@RedXlV 2 жыл бұрын

@@mjriemen That makes sense. The AGM-1 dates to just a few years before California's "assault weapon ban". Most likely this gun was imported around 1990, at which point it would've been banned in CA.

@SidneyBroadshead 2 жыл бұрын

The Al.Gi.Mech AGM-1 was banned from importation by the 1989 Gun Ban. It was classified as a "semi-automatic assault rifle" (having a full pistol grip, detachable magazine and muzzle brake). The factors against it were that it came in a "high-powered" (i.e. centerfire) cartridge, a detachable magazine larger than ten rounds, and no justifiable hunting purpose.

@phatfux6621 2 жыл бұрын

This looks like if EM 2, FG-42 and CETME L all fell into spaghetti, and someone just mixed them into one thing.

@aresdonachelo5283 2 жыл бұрын

We're this close on becoming a Starship Trooper

@pauldiaco3817 2 жыл бұрын

God I love Italian guns! This is quite a beautiful weapon!

@TheAtomicCross 2 жыл бұрын

A stylish and versatile bullpup, peak 80's Milanese fashion.

@zendell37 2 жыл бұрын

No matter how crazy, I want all the bullpups. A realistic dream gun is a FAMAS. I'd love one of those. I do want to get my mini to run well in the Muzzelite bullpup stock. But, for those interested, running tapco 30s in that is a problem.

@Deadeye-sj3qc 2 жыл бұрын

That is a slick carbine. Small, looks well designed and the mags are very available with a little modification

@matrix3509 2 жыл бұрын

Me: There is no such thing as a stylish bullpup. AGM-1: Hold my cannoli.

@antoninolatorre8355 2 жыл бұрын

hi, Ian !!! good video like everytime, for this little carbine in the early version was expected a delay blowback, it consisted of a small steel ball put in the upper extension of bolt charged by a spring and such that it friction on the above external of the chamber ... gets the delay so long

@alexanderstordeur9434 2 жыл бұрын

For a moment I thought that was going to be a Beretta 92 magazine .

@earlyriser8998 2 жыл бұрын

what a neat and obscure little gun

@ZGryphon 2 жыл бұрын

"DC" might stand for Douglas County. There are a lot of unincorporated towns in Nevada, and I don't know offhand how the ATF handles markings for manufacturers that are located in places like that. It's plausible that they could fall back to the next lowest level of organized government, which would be the county (as that's who's probably doing the law enforcement).

@taichung465 2 жыл бұрын

That charging handle looks suspiciously like an air compressor fitting.

@hendriktonisson2915 2 жыл бұрын

Interestingly there was another company in Italy about the same time known as Adler Jager that manufactured bullpup rifles in .22 LR made to look like the British SA80 military rifles called AP-82.

@thefez-cat 2 жыл бұрын

My first thought was "What an oddly Germanic name for an Italian company." Turns out that's because it was a German-Italian company, though details seem pretty scarce. "Adler" was the name they used for the firearms they produced; the company itself was called Armi Jager. They ended up out of the firearms-manufacture business and switched to just sales in the early '80s, apparently.

@hendriktonisson2915 2 жыл бұрын

@@thefez-cat Yeah at first I also wondered why the company has a German sounding name.

@japa_koniu 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, it screams 80s, love it

@mymumdroppedmeinthewomb367 2 жыл бұрын

I've seen alot of people not being able to find it online, its called the EMG-01B, your welcome

@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts 2 жыл бұрын

Really cool design for the time it came out. was surprised to see an Italian 9mm using a hi power mag instead of a beretta 92. If they could have done some work on the bolt they could have made it multi caliber.

@1leggeddog 2 жыл бұрын

Your rant about guns being banned by name in Canada is a testament to how insane our gun laws are.

@JamesPhieffer 2 жыл бұрын

Canadian restrictions are mostly based on the "ooh, looks scary" factor. Meaning a .22 semi-automatic with black furniture, and designed to look like an AR is more likely to be listed than a more powerful rifle that's got lots of wood furniture and doesn't look ominous - like an M-1, or likely even a semi-auto BAR conversion or reproduction. We have no logic... 🤔 🙄 🤦🏼‍♂️

@odizzido 2 жыл бұрын

It's because we keep electing people who are completely unqualified to office. The person who writes gun laws probably doesn't know the difference between 9x18 and 7.62x51. It's the same with the people writing law for technology and anything else. They have no idea what they're doing. We should kick them all out and elect some engineers and scientists. Even if they've never seen a gun before they can at least understand the difference between a 300J 6g projectile vs a 10g 3500J projectile. I would elect an engineer, even if they weren't good at name calling or blaming other people for their mistakes like other politicians.

@ZacharySkan 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like a SPAS-12 and a QBZ-95 had a deformed 9mm child

@bensayer9406 2 жыл бұрын

It does look something I could see an Italian carrying. Don't know what I mean by that but it's an image in my head.

@McDylanNuggets 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a quick episode discussing the difference between 9x17 (380 ACP), 9x19 (9mm Luger), and 9x21 (9mm GP or IWI).

@MichaelPoage666 2 жыл бұрын

He did that pretty much, and also 9×23 Largo, 9 Makarov, 9 Export, etc, but it wasn't its own video, unfortunately. I wish I knew which gun he was covering at the time.

@Kylenashari 2 жыл бұрын

Ok Ian.. you got me.. a firearm that I have never even heard of. Bravo sir.

@VMEMotor5 2 жыл бұрын

This is pretty cool. As a Hi Power fan, I've always wanted a carbine that used HP mags. Now I know one exists.

@HootOwl513 2 жыл бұрын

Will the Browning HP function with that cut-out in the mag?

@VMEMotor5 2 жыл бұрын

@@HootOwl513 While I haven't tried it, I don't see why it wouldn't. That part of the mag doesn't interface with anything.

@alexdrad4994 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like there is little point producing a bullpup in a moderate power pistol cartridge, velocity gain for those is fairly minimal past about 8-9 in of barrel length, and can actually even start decreasing after about 16 in as the pressure drops. Just a bad idea.

@alexanderstrickland9036 2 жыл бұрын

It keeps overall length down. Especially for non sbrs. Easier stowage, better maneuverability, yada yada. It’s still dumb but there is a reason to bull pup them.

@concinnus 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderstrickland9036 Governments don't mind if they're SBRs though, and they're the only ones who could make this commercially viable, or care that much about handling. Plus, with pistol calibers you just stick the magwell in the grip like an Uzi; bullpup doesn't gain as much as on a rifle caliber.

@concinnus 2 жыл бұрын

@LabRat Knatz The laws are what they are, and manufacturers have to deal with them. It doesn't seem like the market would be that much larger without the tax stamp requirement anyway.

@johnhughes1140 2 жыл бұрын

I wish more of them had been made and imported. I'd buy one.

@ecarter8979 2 жыл бұрын

If stories are to be believed those were guns that had been paid for but an import license had not been approved before the 1989 assault weapon import ban. To avoid a complete wash they were brought over as parts kits and assembled in a very remote area of Douglas county back in the days of rural route addresses. The company folded soon after but Algimech isn’t the only gun with their name on it. Once again that’s if stories are to be believed

@johnmorgan1629 2 жыл бұрын

Nice compact design, surprised they didn't make a shotgun version, to sell as a breaching weapon, close defense weapon, as well as general release item. The use of magazines, would mean quick reloads, plus the short barrel would be good in streets and buildings, as there are many small spaces in both in many places in Italy's towns and cities.

@BatCaveOz 2 жыл бұрын

I am unaware of anyone ever upsizing a submachinegun or pistol caliber carbine into a shotgun. Also short barreled shotguns are prohibited in most countries, thus limiting sales to police or military. Police and military don't like short barreled shotguns due to inaccuracy and risk of stray pellets. Specialised breaching weapons represent an incredibly small opportunity for sales and are often better served by a manually operated action (eg pump action) as they can more reliably cycle specialty rounds, which often fail to work in semiautos.

@drummaghua2687 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like a prefect fit for bocw (if they are still updating it after vanguard)

@waywardscythe3358 2 жыл бұрын

looks like a functional movie prop, a bit bulky for a pistol caliber carbine. Super cool though.

@cursive187 2 жыл бұрын

Person of color, District of Columbia, Nevada. As a black man born in Las Vegas and now living in VA, I need this gun.

@TheEnricoMicheli 2 жыл бұрын

The SOCIMI AR834/BP is also an Italian made bullpup from the mid '80s, 556, unfortunately they did so a bunch of corrupt stuff and were closed down shortly after. I can't even find a photo which is a shame as it also had a 4 shot burst mode.

@amigi968 2 жыл бұрын

DEAR GOD! I have always wanted a PCC in .22 WMR.

@ChamplainValleyRailSnapshots 2 жыл бұрын

That is one of the coolest guns! I love it.

@tlshortyshorty5810 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love the aesthetics of this lovely little thing. Would love to see it chambered in, say, MP5 or Uzi magazines as an actual SMG.

@j100j 2 жыл бұрын

That is the most cursed thing I've ever seen.

@M.M.83-U 2 жыл бұрын

Ok, this is indeed forgotten.

@samobispo1527 2 жыл бұрын

At first look, I did not like this carbine. I thought it was ugly, and not in a good way. (That carry handle! uggh!) However, Ian's disassembly showed how thoughtfully it was designed and how it could be easily converted, and I grew to like it.

@laurentbeaulieu2446 2 жыл бұрын

You don't understand how specific the recent trudeau gun ban gets. It mentions by name stuff like 17 different missile launchers, 39 different rocket launchers (not to be confused in case canadian gun law wasn't already pretty clear about civilian owned heavy ordinance.) and one gun named the "Modulo Masterpiece Wizard Extreme Long Range Match" Which I have no idea what it is and what it does but boy does it sound mighty! I'm willing to bet that canada has never even seen at least 50% of these guns.

@bobrees4363 2 жыл бұрын

I'm kind of surprised that it uses Browning Hi Power mags instead of Berreta 92 mags, although in that time period the Browning magazines were probably easy to find on the surplus market.

@mythic744 2 жыл бұрын

Hello from Sparks, NV!!!!! We would love to have you down here, I know we don’t have much to look at, so……. JUST COME ANYWAYS!!!

@FY--my5gg Жыл бұрын

Cheers Ian you can add the 9 x 18 Police caliber to your list... it sits on my table

@jussayinmipeece1069 2 жыл бұрын

looks like it was also intended to be select fire at some point. It would not be that difficult to tap the barrel , insert a gas block or DI onto the bolt and insert a disconnector.

@multisam8717 2 жыл бұрын

I really like this gun. Kind of a shame it's not offered today, especially with the rising popularity of PCCs. With some refinement, it could be a bullpup contender in that field.

@VMEMotor5 2 жыл бұрын

Douglas County Nevada is not far from Sparks Nevada, which is in Washoe County. It wouldn't Surprise me if the company didn't move to Sparks at some point from Douglas County. Unfortunately, Silver Bullet Gun Works is now out of business.

@VegasCyclingFreak 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a fan of bullpups but this one is actually kinda cool

@rackedout621 2 жыл бұрын

POC may be Point of Contact

@KnuxCardDad 2 жыл бұрын

If George Kellgren, and The boyz in Mansfield teamed up, and had an Italian designer make them a rifle to their Specs. It would be like Ford going to Pinnafarina and asking them to design a new Lincoln.

@ovaca16 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for pronouncing Nevada correctly.

@9drtr 2 жыл бұрын

IIRC, the Black Rifle Coffee Company is a prohibited firearm in Canada.

@odizzido 2 жыл бұрын

Canada has specifically banned space magic. The G11 is simply an example of that.

@januskristensen4930 2 жыл бұрын

I love the nothing tube

@PracticalKen 2 жыл бұрын

Really interesting mechanics. Thanks for sharing.

@thegoldencaulk2742 2 жыл бұрын

Don't know if it was the same for the Algimech, but the ARs carry handle was designed as a carry handle first, and only served as a protector for the charging handle when that was added later.